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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

695.0. "Lirez le livre d'instruction == lld? (rtfm en france)" by LAMHRA::WHORLOW (1:25000 - a magic number) Fri Jul 14 1989 03:04

    G'day from Downunder on a bright 10C heading for 16C mid-winter's
    day,
    
    We are creating on-line help for our new product.
    
    
    Please...
    
    What are the initials for RTFM in French, German,Italian....
    
    
    
    $-)
    
    derek
    
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695.1VISA::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseFri Jul 14 1989 11:3410
    	For the third letter you should see a QAR we submitted on April 1 a
    couple of years ago.
    
    	The VMS password generator has a filter to avoid offending people.
    We complained that it was not sufficiently internationalised, and
    submitted lists for about 10 languages. Just asking around personal
    friends here I think I could get RTFM in 11 languages now.
    
    	If the inquiry is more serious, then there are
    internationalisation/translation groups in most European countries.
695.2LTPM ULYSSE::LIRONFri Jul 14 1989 19:461
	Lis ton pu*tain de manuel 
695.3merci bien...LAMHRA::WHORLOW1:25000 - a magic numberMon Jul 17 1989 00:5215
    G'day,
    
    
    Well the enquiry was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek...
    
    Our group here in Oz consists of three Aussies, a Pom, an Austrian, A
    Septic and a naturally French-speaking Kurdi from Syria. With Oz being
    so multi-cultural, it seemed that it would a good idea to spread the
    word, as it were...
    
    
    djw
     
    
    
695.4AITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoMon Jul 17 1989 00:574
        GASP!  You mean "Aussies" and "Austrians" aren't the
        same??? :-)
        
        Dan
695.5I'm impressed.ERICG::ERICGEric GoldsteinMon Jul 17 1989 08:174
.3>    ... a naturally French-speaking Kurdi from Syria ...

That's amazing.  Even in France, after all, the kids have to learn the
language.
695.6je parle francais comme une vache espagnolLAMHRA::WHORLOW1:25000 - a magic numberMon Jul 17 1989 14:3516
    G'day,
    
    
      but but but... French cannot be _that_ difficult...
    
    why even the dogs in France understand French......let alone the
    budgies that can speak it too....
    
    
    
     ;-)
    
    
    
    derek
    
695.7ULYSSE::LIRONMon Jul 17 1989 18:066
>    why even the dogs in France understand French......let alone the
>    budgies that can speak it too....
    
    Bien s�r, et m�me le Prince Charles parle fran�ais.
    
	roger   :)
695.8LAMHRA::WHORLOW1:25000 - a magic numberTue Jul 18 1989 00:5347
    B'jour,
    
    
    
    dr�le, tr�s dr�le..........
    
    
    C'est parce que le chunnel fait Angleterre un pays de l'europe,
    n'est-ce pas. 
    
    
    Quand je suis � l'�cole, j'ai appris que la Manche est l� pour raison
    simple - c'est parce que tour les gens qui se trouvent au sud de
    la mer sont �trangers.
    
    
    So, on ne dois pas apprendre fran�ais ou italien ou allemande parce
    que tout le monde parle anglais, naturellement!   
    
    
    
    in deference to non franglais speaking readers, the original text
    (prior to butchering) now follows...
    
    Funny, very funny....
                                          
    Thats because the chunnel makes England a European country, isn't
    it.
    
    
    When I was at school, I  learnt that the English Channel was there
    for a simple reason - Because everyone south of the sea were
    foreigners.
    
    
    Therefore one needn't learn french, italian or german because everyone
    speaks english, naturally.
    
    
    
    to the purists and the committee that looks after the french
    language...
    
    apologies....
    
    derek
    
695.9wowWMOIS::B_REINKEIf you are a dreamer, come in..Tue Jul 18 1989 05:368
    Derek,
    
    I managed to translate that based on my high school French..
    
    I suspose that it is up to a native speaker to say if my
    memory is good or .... :-)
    
    Bonnie
695.10not as good as HeathCOMICS::DEMORGANRichard De Morgan, UK CSC/CSTue Jul 18 1989 12:002
    Re .7: yes, he does, but his accent is terrible. Even Edward Heath
    sounds better.
695.11ULYSSE::LIRONTue Jul 18 1989 13:297
	Somerset Maugham, le grand �crivain britannique, disait: 
	"Le fran�ais est la langue commune des personnes cultiv�es"

	D'ailleurs, la devise de la couronne d'Angleterre est en
	fran�ais: "Dieu et mon droit".

	 roger    :)
695.12a Septic???MTA::BOWERSCount Zero InterruptTue Jul 18 1989 18:521
    
695.13QUOKKA::SNYDERWherever you go, there you areTue Jul 18 1989 18:577

    >                       -< a Septic??? >-

    Rhyming slang for an American.   Septic Tank ==> Yank.

    Sid  (a septic)
695.14LDSHVOGON::JOHNSTONTue Jul 18 1989 19:356
In German:

Lies das Schei�handbuch

Ian
695.15Honi soit qui mal y pense!LAMHRA::WHORLOW1:25000 - a magic numberWed Jul 19 1989 00:5118
    G'day..
    
    
    
    Ahhh yes "Mon Dieu et Mon Droit"
    
    
    
    
    My God, I'm Right
    
    
    
    ;-)
    
    
    derek
    
695.17KAOFS::S_BROOKHere today and here again tomorrowSat Jul 22 1989 00:0611
    Mais alors!
    
    Don't you people know that if the furner doesn't understand you,
    all you have to do is SHOUT LOUDER!
    
    So, rtfm in furin is RTFM!
    
    or even (imagine double hight, double width) RTFM!
    
    Stuart who is currently learning French for his job anyway!
    
695.18Which word should be the lodest?LAMHRA::WHORLOW1:25000 - a magic numberMon Jul 24 1989 05:5812
    G'day,
    
    
    Yerst, the first line is shout, _then_ if the furiner don't understand,
    
    shout LOUDER....  
    
    
    but these are not necessarily yer actual continentals.... some of
    em is locals....
    djw
    
695.19a golden nugget?LESCOM::KALLISTo thine own self be candid.Mon Jul 24 1989 15:357
    Re .18 (djw):
    
    <                   -< Which word should be the lodest? >-
  
    The oreyest. ;-)
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
695.20BMT::KABELdoryphoreTue Jul 25 1989 00:564
    In Paris, they simply stared when I spoke to them in French.  I
    never did succeed in making those idiots understand their own
    language.
    	-- Mark Twain