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Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

555.0. "Passive Survey" by ATLAST::ANDERSON (Give me a U, give me a T...) Fri Aug 26 1988 18:35

	Would anybody out there be willing to take a few minutes and 
	fill out a survey for me.  It should only take a few minutes 
	-- and you might even find it interesting.  It's for a paper 
	I'm working on -- I can tell you all the interesting details 
	once you've filled the thing out (don't want to bias anybody).  
	Please, also, don't use this note for a discussion of the 
	passive voice -- it might bias others.  Just send your 
	responses to me at ATLAST::ANDERSON.  Thanks a lot.  I really
	appreciate it.

		-- Cliff





                               PASSIVE SURVEY



  1. What's your job title (engineer, writer, editor, etc.):


  2. Give an example of passive voice:


  3. Give an example of active voice:


  4. How often do you use passive voice (%):


  5. How often is passive voice used in written English (%):


  6. What's a good prescription (rule, guideline) for use of the passive:


  7. When is it okay to use passive voice:

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555.1Thanks!!!ATLAST::ANDERSONGive me a U, give me a T...Sat Sep 03 1988 00:1495
	First, let me thank everyone who filled the surveys out.  I
	got a pretty good response -- 31 total (including some I
	passed out by hand).

	Now, let me tell you what this was all about.  I'm 
	currently writing a paper on prescriptive lingustics.  This 
	is basically a methodology that looks at writing prescriptions 
	in a descriptive (i.e., linguistic) way.  The methodology 
	goes someting like this:

	  1. Survey the prsecriptionists to see if you can come
	     up with some consensus

	  2. Look at actual usage to see if the prescription is
	     actually followed

	  3. Analyze the instances you found for the following 
	     sociolinguistic variables:

	     o Field
	     o Purpose
	     o Audience
	     o Register (i.e., formal vs informal)

	  4. Analyze the instances for purely linguistic variables
	     (this can be pretty open-ended -- basically whatever you
	     can find to apply ... includes both traditional psycho-
	     linguistics and more discourse-level stuff)

	  5. Restate the prescription to account for any discrepancies
	     or revelations you encountered when going through the 
	     above steps

	I plan to use passive voice as an example prescription because
	of several things: it's controversial, it's probably a good
	example of hyper-correction, it's fairly easy to explain
	linguistically and sociolinguistically.

	So far, I have only completed the first step.  Interestingly,
	though, what I found seemed to be way off base from what I
	expected.  Basically, I expected all the grammarians to say
	"never use the passive," "avoid the passive at all costs,"
	"the passive is a commie plot," etc.  Instead, I found them to
	be pretty reasonable -- usually, they said "prefer the active
	voice," "try to use active," etc., and then gave instances of
	when using the passive was okay.

	This didn't seem to gibe with the general feeling you get 
	around writers that the passive is sapping our vital juices,
	is the end of civilization, etc.  So, my next question was
	to ask: is the guy out in the street as virulently anti-passive 
	as I always thought he was? -- this was the purpose of the 
	survey.

	What I found from the survey wasn't what I expected either.
	Only 6 respondents think the passive is a horrible abomination
	and shouldn't be used ever.  The remaining 22 (3 didn't know 
	what it was) generally followed the prescriptionists.  

	Of these, though, 5 listed reasons for using the passive that
	were not in any of the grammarians (and which seemed kind of
	home grown and kind of hard to follow to me).  The remaining
	17 took 2 tacks: 7 mentioned when you don't know who the agent
	is, and 10 talked about when the object is more important than
	the agent (in so many words).

	So, perhaps, the problem is not that prescriptions concerning
	the passive are unrealistic (as I originally thought), but that
	the instances when you can use the passive are not real clear.
	This is not helped by grammarians who talk about the different
	voices being "weak," vigorous," "forceful, "strong," etc.  

	There are, in fact, much more functional reasons to use the
	passive.  One is when you don't know who the agent is, as 
	mentioned above.  Another is related to the thing about the
	object being more important than the agent.  This would be a
	lot more understandable, however, if it was put in a discourse
	context, and brought in things like Functional Sentence 
	Perspective, given/new information, etc. (I'll go over this
	stuff in another note if anybody's interested).

	The percentage questions also gave me some interesting feedback.
	Passive is typically used about 20% of the time in written 
	English.  Interestingly, though, the average response here was 
	55%.  This tells me that people are probably hyper-aware of the
	passive.  Not sure why (I'll try to research this a little
	more later), but it does tell me that something fishy is going
	on.

	Thanks again for filling out the surveys.  I'll now open this
	note to discussion of anything you all want.  I'll try to
	enter some more notes on further research.

		-- Cliff

555.2The Army Signal Corps Did ItCLOSET::T_PARMENTERTongue in cheek, fist in air!Fri Sep 16 1988 18:4916
    I have heard an explanation of the execration of passive voice in
    technical writing (as opposed to all the other execrations of p.v.).
    Back in the 30s and 40s, when technical writing as we know it was
    being born, the armed services *required* that all manuals be written
    in the passive voice.  You can imagine the reader-torture that resulted
    from that rule.  Hence, in more modern views of technical writing,
    such as the little yellow pamphlet all new writers at DEC are given,
    the p.v. is denounced as unnatural, etc.
    
    I never think about it, but I use it all the time.  Things are always
    happening *to* things in this environment, and you don't want to
    be always writing:  "The Executive does this . . . " and "The Executive
    does that . . . "
    
    I was pleasantly surprised by the results you got. I'm sorry I missed
    the chance to answer the survey.
555.3RICKS::SATOWFri Sep 16 1988 18:566
    Of course the most common business usage of the passive voice is
    when a group of people (usually a `committee')agree that something 
    needs to be done, but none of them is willing to take responsibility
    for doing it.
    
    Clay
555.4Re .2ATLAST::ANDERSONGive me a U, give me a T...Mon Sep 19 1988 17:5118
	Another interesting historical theory relates to the scientific
	method.  Because the scientific method emphasizes replicability 
	(i.e., anyone should be able to do the same experiment and get 
	the same result), the subject is deemphasized.  This is why 
	procedures in academic articles, textbooks, etc. have so much 
	passive voice: "a culture was taken," "15 subjects were used," 
	"a concentration of XYZ is titrated," etc.

	How this relates to tech writing, though, is a little more
	interesting ... and less functional.  This is mainly a matter of 
	sociolinguistics.  Basically, many years ago, technology did not 
	have as much prestige as pure science.  In order to get some of 
	that prestige, engineers and applied scientists tried to ape 
	scientists.  One of the ways they did this was to use the same 
	language -- i.e., things like passive voice, latinate 
	terminology, etc.  

		-- Cliff