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512.1 | doubtful | MARKER::KALLIS | loose ships slip slips. | Thu Apr 28 1988 21:57 | 7 |
| Re .0 (Joe):
Probably not. There were a few steps between St. Nicholas and Santa
Claus. Relying on my somewhat rusty memory, I believe an intermediate
form was "Sinter Klaus," from the Dutch.
Steven Kallis, Jr.
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512.2 | agreed | DANUBE::B_REINKE | where the sidewalk ends | Fri Apr 29 1988 04:26 | 8 |
| My memory of the origin of Santa Claus jibes with what Steve wrote.
(and given his errudation...I am only entering this as a second
source as it were..in the tradition of journalism). As I recall
it the derivation came form the English misprounciation of the
Dutch/German.
Bonnie
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512.3 | Old Nick's origin | FDCV06::BEAIRSTO | Anyone got a cute saying? | Fri Apr 29 1988 16:04 | 18 |
| < Note 512.0 by GOLD::OPPELT "If they can't take a joke, screw 'em!" >
-< Daddy, where does Santa come from? >-
> Recently I
>was doing a crossword puzzle, and one clue was "of Old Nick".
>The word turned out to be "satanic".
The Nick who gave his name to Satan was Niccolo Machiavelli, whose
books evidently convinced people that he was quite a baddie himself.
Now, does anyone know why the Devil is also called 'Scratch'?
Rob
P.S. Actually, Satan is an anagram of 'an AST': powerful, but
infinitely teacherous :-)
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512.4 | | NEARLY::GOODENOUGH | Jeff Goodenough, IPG Reading UK | Mon May 09 1988 15:52 | 10 |
| Re: .1
> I believe an intermediate form was "Sinter Klaus," from the Dutch.
Still is. Sint Nicolaas -> Sinter Klaas -> Santa Claus
I think the German is Sint Niklaus - maybe a more direct source
of the corruption.
Jeff.
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512.5 | German origins | MUDIS3::JONES | INSFUSRIQ Insufficient User IQ | Wed May 25 1988 19:04 | 7 |
| It does come from the German "Sankt Nikolaus". Prince Albert, a
German and Queen Victoria's husband, introduced it into Britain
in the last century. Also the tradition of christmas trees in the
front room etc.
The name became anglicised, much the same as the 'Battenberg' family
became the 'Mountbatten' etc.
Mitch (British living in Munich, West Germany)
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