Conference school::sports_memorabilia

    
    
    		Went to SPAG's again today, and they have boxes of CLASSIC
    	The Minors in a Major League Way for $18.  First time I've seen
    	these, and the price seemed a bit high, so I didn't buy any.
    	They had quite a few of these, so, if someone can verify that
    	this is a good buy, please let us know, and maybe I'll buy a box
    	next time I go there.  For those who are not familiar with this
    	area, SPAG's is in Rte. 9, Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, in the good
    	old U. S. of A.

    
    
    	Yes, that's exactly what they are.  I didn't say CLASSIC's Best
    	because I didn't think it was important.

    
    Scoreboard ALSO provides JC Penney, Jordan Marsh, and the like,
    with their autographed memorabilia.
    
    Obviously at near-retail prices, since the retail stores prices
    are incrementally worse than ScoreBoard.  Either that, or those
    retail stores are some might greedy suckers ...
    
    -rjk

    There must be some heavy hitters behind this Scoreboard company.  Does 
    anyone know who ownes them.  A lot of players will only sign for
    Scoreboard, like Reggie J., Schmitt, etc., so this place must be well
    connected to the players to have the sort of inventory built up to 
    supply the Cable networks, department stores, etc.  I know they are
    out of NJ., think Mr. Mint maybe one of the principles behind this
    bigger than life company.  They have to be big if they own Classic
    card co.  I also see that Rotmans has a Football set they are putting
    out.  There another company that is bigger than they appear.  It's very
    interesting once you start putting the pieces together of these
    companies.  I also think Rotmans is supplying Spags with some stuff, 
    which is very likely.

    Have you seen the ESPN special titled "Outside the Lines"?  It was
    run sometime before the season started and replayed around the All-Star
    game.  The documentary, which may have won some award, focused on the
    autograph game - players being hounded, dealers selling autos, fake
    autos, Home shopping club, interviews and the Scoreboard.  The cameras
    showed one ex-player signing for Scoreboard.  It also showed their
    inventory of signed bats and a bunch of kids sorting cards.  The
    owner's name may be Phil Spector (something like the recording honcho)
    but I could be wrong.  
    
    While Scoreboard's prices are admittedly high, they say they provide 
    "peace of mind" via authentic, guaranteed, genuine autographs.  You
    realize the big bucks involved if you saw the video.  
    
    BTW, at the end of the video, they showed an autograph hound getting
    signatures of some of the Celtics at when they were checking into the
    Embasssy Suite by Storrow Drive.  I think I've seen discussion
    elsewhere in the notesfile of this video and person.

    True, that is the best way.  However, not everyone has access to the
    players.  Not all players may visit a city reasonably close to your
    hometown.  I imagine that some of the people that buy from HSC, Penneys, 
    etc. live far from a major city/sports collecting area or don't really
    follow sports memorabilia closely and pay for convenience and peace of
    mind.  Some may also not know about shows or want to deal with the
    hassle.
    
    I would rather get it in person if possible.  Didn't mean to get off
    the topic - this should probably be in the autograph topic.  I'm
    learning more about autos and the pitfalls.  Because I'd like to get some
    single-signed balls of players I like.  They're easier to display than
    card sets.
    
    BTW, beware of 89 Topps team cards signed by Bo Jackson.  They look
    totally fake.  I don't know Bo's signature well, but the dealer that
    had them was selling them for $7 or $10.  When I asked where he got
    them, he said at a private signing session.  Yeah, right.  The guy flew
    to LA to get some Topps cards to sell for $7.  I'm sure Bo doesn't sign
    for that low.  He only seems to sign for guys like Scoreboard.  He
    hates to sign otherwise, as evidenced by the "No autographs" plaque 
    on the front of his house.  It could've been legit, but watch out for 
    this stuff.
    house:  

    
    
    		I couldn't find a note for 91 Topps Hockey, so I decided
    	to put this here.  In case anyone cares, or is interested in 91
    	Topps ( Puuuughh..) Hockey, SPAGS (Shrewsbury, MA) is selling
    	boxes for $14.

	Here are a few goodies I found today during my travels
	(all prices are rounded to the nearest dollar, I don't go for
	 that xx.98  xx.99 crap. Do you think that 1 or 2 pennies less
	 is going to make any difference ?. Not unless you buy hundreds
	 or thousands of units. They're not fooling me.)

	At Roman's (Worcester, MA)
	--------------------------

	91-92 Skybox (just in)	$25

	91 Upper Deck Football	 33

	91-92 NBA Hoops		 13

	91-92 Fleer Basketball	 13

	Nightmare on Elm st.	 25
	(factory set with the
	 Holograms)

	Star Trek 25th Anniv.	 17


	At BJ's (Westboro, MA)
	----------------------

	91 Pro Set Football	 14
	   (Series II)	


	And ... FLASH !!!  FLASH !!! FLASH !!!

	I left the best one for last.  This is not a misprint, folks, but
	there is a catch.  The catch is that there is a limit of one per
	customer.

	91 Upper Deck Football 	$ 19 !!!!!! (compare that with the lowest
					     price you have seen at the
					     card shows. Fantastic ....)

    
    	RE: -1
    
    	I don't see why not, I am not making a profit because I am not
    	selling anything.  I am just letting you know where you can buy
    	those items for prices which I consider to be very reasonable.
    	In any case, let the moderator make the final decision.

    
    First, and foremost.  The FOR-SALE policy has nothing  to  do  with
    the rest of this notesfile.  People abused, other people complained,
    and I was a'feared sooner or later someone would run to personnel.
    
    Secondly, DEC has a policy  against  solicitation.   If  I  were  an
    employee  of  Rig  Rob's  Card  wholesalers,  and continually posted
    notes in here that were nothing more than solicitations for business,
    then THAT would be a problem.
    
    If I were an employee of Rig Rob's, and I posted a note stating that
    you can pre-order from Rig Rob's, the new wild-child exorcism cards,
    that would be solicitation, and THAT would be a problem.
    
    Juan is not an employee of BJ's (although, he goes there often enuff,
    he should get a constant-visitor discount! 8^), and what he did by
    passing along those prices, was inform the people in this notesfile
    of some information he came across in his travels.
    
    This is no different than someone in ::CD posting a note saying that
    Lechmere's is having a 25% sale off ALL CD's this week.  Or someone
    in ::AUDIO saying that Radio Snack is having a sale on solder this
    week.
    
    There is no ulterior motive here.  There is no desire to create profit
    utilizing Digital resources, for someone other than Digital.  There is
    no solicitation here.  It is strictly FYI only.
    
    If people are going to be bitter because one or two bad apples spoiled
    the FOR-SALE note, they're going to miss out on a lot in this
    notesfile.  Don't be bitter at the people who try and pass along news
    of good deals to their fellow noters.  Be bitter at those noters who
    bought some at decent prices, and turned around trying to sell it at
    an obscene profit level.
    
    I've had more than one response telling me I'm a jerk over this.
    I've had people telling me that a FOR-SALE note can't work w/out
    prices listed.  What can I say?  This notesfile is open to ALL DEC
    Employees.  A few of them chose to spoil it for the rest.  Don't
    blame me, and don't get an attitude over it.  Live with it.  Maybe
    in the future, we'll give a wide-open FOR-SALE note another go, but
    pointing fingers and sniping isn't going to win any points towards
    it.
    
    -rjk

    
    
    Mr. Moderator,
    
    Would it be considered acceptable to start a note for persons who wish
    to be included in any off line mailing lists which might evolve as a 
    result of the change/enforcement of the FOR SALE note policy?
    
    I would envision that persons could simply enter either their VAXmail
    address  as replies thereby signifying an invitation to send them any
    sales notices .
    
    What do you think?
    
    POLAR::FERGUSONR
    

  Personally, I'm glad if someone who happens across a good price let's me
know about it.  It saves me alot of running around and maybe some bucks too!

  The rule about no personal businesses is a good one.  I remember the days
when there were some people who worked at DEC as a hobby and their real 
business was somewhere else, and all they did was advertise in all types
of conferences.

  There are a few people in this conference that we all know have side 
businesses dealing in memorabilia but no one has gotten out of hand as far as
I've noticed, but, if they do, the moderators would be within their rights to 
put a stop to it!



					Just My Opinion,
					Mike B
  

    
    Informing the noting community  about cards that are available in
    the retail market is an entirely seperate issue from the FOR-SALE
    note here in this notesfile.
    
    This notesfile is Digital resources.  The system it's  on, and the
    disk space it's stored on are Digital resources.   We as employees
    are all Digital resources, and we all agreed to abide by Digital's
    policies and procedures when we came to work here.
    
    Abusing the FOR-SALE note is in direct conflict with my interpreation
    of DEC's policy against using DEC resources for personal gain. I have
    had people complain to me, and I do not wish it to elevate beyond the
    complaints coming to me.  I do not want this reaching personnel.
    
    In the past, when personnel has been confronted with people complaining
    about the content of a notesfile, you know what they've done?  They've
    shut the notesfile down, and put STRICT restrictions on the re-opening
    of it.
    
    I have not outlawed FOR-SALE notes.  I have asked that you refrain
    from posting your prices.  If there is no price listed, I do not have
    to try and determine if you are using Digital resources for a profit.
    If people contact you OFF-LINE, OUTSIDE OF DIGITAL, then they have NO
    leg to stand on should they complain to Personnel.
    
    Why, oh why, do you people find it so difficult to believe that a note
    along these lines:
    
    	"FOR SALE:  Classic Kindgerten Sets.  Contact me at
    		    1-408-467-7236 if interested".
    
    Will work?  You people don't like the policy, don't use the note, or
    try and come up with an alternative solution for me.  Don't nitpick
    other people's notes, and turn into a bunch of finger-pointing,
    back-stabbing babies.
    
    -rjk

	Just got back from B.J.'s... Picked up a box of Upper Deck Football
	for $18.98 Plus tax Total $20.97..

	Thanks for the information Juan!!

    
    
    RJK,
    
     RE: .17 
    
    WHat I meant here regarding mailing lists was intended for use by
    people who are engaged in card sales in major way. They could send out
    mailing lists with prices included without abusing the for sale note
    policy.
    
    However, per your .20, if they did choose to not price their list of 
    offerings , it would solve your problem also.
    
    I have no problem abiding by the rules,  I just think there are those
    among us  that would be interested in their offerings and preferably
    with prices provided and that this would be a way of doing it.
    
    Regards,
    
    R.M.F.

I agree with the sentiment that using X% of Beckett {where X is <=100) 
should cover any chance of abuse.

you could always say in your ad...


LOW LOW PRICES...

    
    
    	At the card show I attended over the weekend there were a couple 
    	of new items I hadn't seen before.  I saw the 91 Topps Traded set
    	for $9, the final update of 91 UD Baseball for $20, the 91 Classic
    	Baseball Draft Picks for $10.  And, as we all expected, the dealers
    	were selling boxes of 91-92 SKYBOX for between $32 to $35.

    I saw the Topps for $10, the UD update for $15, Skybox for $27, and 
    the Score Hockey, but I forget the price.  Oh, and I got the "black"
    Fleer Ultra FB (collectors vs. stores?) for $26.

    
    	Here is what I found today at BJ's (Westboro, MA)
    
    	91-92 SKYBOX boxes $21 (Limit ONE per customer)
    	When I was there around 12:30, there were only 2 cases left.
    
    	For those of you who waited this long to try to get the 91 UD 
    	Football boxes at BJ's, they're all gone.

     >>   For those of you who waited this long to try to get the 91 UD
     >>   Football boxes at BJ's, they're all gone.
     
    RE:  -.1
    
    Juan,
    
    That's because there was NO limit on UD Football boxes on Friday.  I
    saw more than one dealer there, each carrying several boxes.  They sold
    out by 1:30pm on Friday.
    
    Just an fyi, I heard from a BJ employee that they limit new items to
    one box per customer ON THE FIRST DAY they display them.  After that,
    there's usually no limit (if there's any left)...
    
    Dan

    
    Did they sell out of Hockey cards (Topps)?
    
    -rjk

    Roy....I went there today and no Topps hockey. Nothing at all. Do
           you still want Pro-Set French Hockey? I picked up a box
           for $25.00. I believe I still can get it for that price.
           Let me know
    
    Fred
    

    Anybody come up with extra Poulins or Mike McNeils I am in a serious
    want mode.  ND guys and all that....
    
    Dick

    
    
    	New at BJ's (Westboro, MA)
    	
    	91 Score NFL complete factory set (Series I & II)....... $17
    
	This set also contains 4 extra bonus cards honoring the NY GIANTS

A local card shop/ripof artist had Jerry Willard's rookie card on display
the day after his sacrifice fly... The price?  $1.50.   Ha Ha Ha!

    
    	If you guys want to have a good laugh, do this
    
    	Notes> Show Keywords
    
    

    Just seen at BJ's today (in Westboro, MA)
    
    '91 UpperDeck Baseball Factory sets (1-800)  $36.99 (plus tax)
    
    They still had '91 Score BB and '91 Donruss BB factory sets...
    
    Dan

    
    Some fairly intense competition and lack of a large crowd had
    some prices plunging at the BG show on saturday.  Some examples:
    
    PLunge of the show award: Pacific football which by the end of the
    show you could get factory sets for $20, 3 for $50!  Wax boxes were 
    $15, $20 for cellos, but you almost certainly could have gotten it
    for less.
    
    Runner up plunge award:  Dominos pizza sets: $10!  No sooner did I see
    one dealer selling them for $15, when the guy down the row has a bunch
    for $10.
    
    Fleer Pro Visions basketball 6 card set: $3, 91 star pics set $9.
    Fleer cellos: (msp) $48/box, studio at $50/box, wildcard at $50/box.
    Courtside basketball set $10, pro set french series I $17/box.  Score
    football factory sets for $16, skybox $22-$25/box, saw a box of
    hoops go for $10 with a accompanying $10 courtside set purchase.
    
    jeff
    

    
    	SPAG's (Shrewsbury, MA) has 91 CLASSIC Baseball Draft picks
    	in the large plastic package for $8. They also have 91 NBA	
    	Hoops for $12.50/box.

    At a show in NC I saw the following:
    Proset Hockey French $20-60 box
    1990 Fleer Football $7 box
    New hoops $12 box
    UD final update $12 to 18 a set
    UD extended $5 to 12 a set
    Ud Footbal .75 pack $25 box
    Pacific FB $10 a box
    
    It continues to amaze me the amount of stuff for sale.  Not only the
    new stuff but also plenty of older cards.  It seemed as though anything
    you wanted could be found here.  One guy had a *gem mint* Bobby Orr
    rookie (and it was), he only wanted $8,000 for it.  I bet he would have
    settled for $7500.  I am begining to believe that if someone wants to
    invest in this hobby (I dont), then they better be putting their cash
    in older cards.
    
    Jon

I was in a packing and shipping store next to a local card dealer yesterday
afternoon when the guy that runs the card store came in and asked me if
I'd head about Magic Johnson.  When I told him "yes", his response was
"Do you realize what effect this will have on his cards!"     :-(

Having only entered this hobby a short six months ago, I continue to be
amazed at the range  of corruption, greed, and self-interest that is
demonstrated.   I find myself going to this guy's store just to see how
low a person can go... 

Having only entered this hobby a short six months ago, I continue to be
amazed at the range  of corruption, greed, and self-interest that is
demonstrated.   I find myself going to this guy's store just to see how
low a person can go... 

    Ya right, and Jimmy Swaggert only went to look.  Lets face it doug you
    enjoy the greed and deception on that side of the tracks.  You know you
    love it, it makes you feel *dirty*.  Thats why you collect. :)
    
    jon

    
    It's like a drug, and Doug is hooked ...

    
    		New at BJ's (Westboro, MA)
    
    		91 Fleer Football Stars & Stripes  
    		(top stars & draft picks, 140 card set) ........$ 6.50
    
    
    		SPAG'S (Shrewsbury, MA)
    	
    		91 TOPPS Hockey 40 card cello packs ............$ 1.30

    	I picked up 2 set at Spags of the 91 Classic Draft Pics and
    was missing 4 cards out of the 50 card set. The package was packed
    right and the cards were sealed in shrink wap so I guess it must of
    happened at the factory. I'm writing Classic a letter and I'll let
    you know what happens.
    I wounder if I should open the second one to make sure there all there.
    
    Miguel

    
    Where these missing cards key cards? If so I wouldn't expect to find
    them. Unopened is always considered to be Gem Mint, until opened
    and now you can see why.
    
    Jim

    
    	CLASSIC seems to have that problem, I bought a sealed set with the
    	album, opened it to put them in the album, and found that there
    	was 1 card missing, and 1 duplicate in its place.
    
    	Wrote to the company to complain about it, that was about 3 months
    	ago, and haven't heard a word from them yet. 

    What were they at the show?  They were on the HRC (tm?) for $27.50
    a set.  Aren't these around $10-12 at shows?
    
    -Walt

    
    They almost have to be mixing in these bogus callers with the suckers,
    'cause the things they say are just not true. Not long ago one of the
    "phone"y callers was commenting on the '90 topps Ryan 5k set (#2-6).
    He was saying how just that set was worth $5, HSC was selling a 10 card
    lot of '88,'89, and'90 Ryans for an amazing $9.95
    
    Jim 

	Jeff Juden (Houston Rookie Pitcher) was signing for $2.

	Fleer Rookie Sensation sets 		$20 (Waiting for $15)
	Ultra Fleer Football (both boxes)	$20 
	Upper Deck Final Update			$14
	Upper Deck Hockey boxes			$35 (Waiting for $20)
	91-92 Pro Set Santa Cards		$2  (Wasn't interested)
	Pro Set Platium Hockey boxes		$33
	Ultra Fleer Baseball update		$15

    
    From the show in Sturbridge Mass. this past Sunday:
    
    	- Only about 2/3 of the tables were sold.
    
    	- Less than 300 autographs were sold for Duke Snider.
    
    	- Less than 300 autographs were sold for Phil Niekro.
    
    	- Topps Stadium Club Football - $55-75/box, not moving at all.
    
    	- Topps Stadium Club Hockey - $100-175/box, not moving at all.
    
    	- Smokey's Ultimate Hockey, $35/box.
    
    	- Upper Deck Hockey ($32-35), very plentiful, no one buying.
    
    	- ProSet Platinum Hockey ($28-36 -- and dealers very willing to
    	  budge, my BIL ended up getting a box for $25).
    
    	- Fleer Rookie Sensations; $25/set, Brown; $6, Coleman; $6,
    	  Simmons; $6 -- not selling.
    
    	- Fleer Ultra Football boxes; $21 (black or green).
    
    	- ProSet French Hockey $18-22/box
    
    	- Classic Hockey Draft Picks Set, $17/set, no one buying.
    
    	- Score English (American) hockey, $15/box.
    
    	- Upper Deck Final Update sets; $13, two for $25.
    
    	- 1991-92 Fleer Basketball (Complete sets); $6.95
    
    	- 1991-92 UD Hockey Holograms AW1 AW2 AW3 , going for $1 to $2
    	  each.  These things blow away the football ones guys ...
    
    	- Some Fleer insert prices (complete sets):
    
    	  o Baseball Pro-Visions (Black border); $5
    	  o Baseball Pro-Visions (White border); $3
    	  o Football Pro-Visions; $7                     
    	  o Basketball Pro-Visions; $3
    
    	  o Football All-Pro (1991 Silver); $3 (yes, three dollars!)
    	  o Basketball Schoolyard Stars; $2

    
    From the Bedford, NH show this sunday (clemens signing):
    
    	- Roger was packing them in, $3 admission, $15 for flat rocket
    	  signature (ridiculous imo).  They sold 1450 autograph tickets
    	  before they cut off sales, they were only up to around 900 by
    	  about 2:30-3:00 p.m., which means roger must have hung around
    	  for quite awhile to get thru 1450.  From what people told me, the 
    	  wait was around 3+ hours from when you purchased a ticket to
    	  when you made it to Roger.  I heard a few folks grumbling that
    	  roger didn't even look up, that they could barely make out his
    	  signature, etc., but most seemed satisfied to have gotten the
    	  auto they came for.
      
    	- Stadium hockey $95 (early sold out) to $115/box.
    	- Stadium football $59-$60/box and not moving.
    	- Upper Deck hockey $30 (early sold out), mass quantities at
    	  $33-$35, moving but not too swiftly.
    	- ProSet platinum series I and II football and series I hockey $29.
    	- Rookie sensations $25/set.
    
    No great bargains even though it was a large show with several of the
    larger dealers in attendance.  Prices stayed up I think because there
    was a large crowd there and some were buying, plus the dealers had to
    cover a rather steep $110/table cost (evidently it costs quite a bit
    to get roger to come out and sign).  The promoter of the show the 
    grinning from ear to ear considering attendence was big at $3 a pop
    and he took in 20K-25K minimum in autograph sales, plus $110 each for
    80-100 tables.
    
    jeff
    
    

    
    A quick scan of Toys' 'R Us in mahgnimarF, revealed the following:
    
    - Factory sets available of:
    
    	o 1991 Donruss Baseball (w/Studio Preview cards)
    	o 1991 Fleer Baseball
    	o 1991 Score Baseball
    	o 1991 Score Football
    	o 1991 Topps Baseball
    	o 1991 Topps Football
    	o 1991 Topps Hockey
    
      All were $27.99 (they seem to like that price for complete sets).
    
    - Lots of rak paks were available; Most of the baseball and football
      sets, Fleer basketball, etc.
    
    - Lots of wax available (the above, ProLine, non-sports, Score FB
      series 1 and 2, UD Football [low], etc.).  All were .49� a pack
      except ProLine ($1.29), UD FB LO ($.99).
    
    -rjk

>    - Factory sets available of:
>    	o 1991 Topps Hockey
>    
>      All were $27.99 (they seem to like that price for complete sets).

That's rather high isn't it?!

Anyway, Spag's has boxes of 91 Bowman hockey for $13.99	(sorry, I only usually
look for hockey stuff...).  

Also had 91 Topps Hockey blister paks...40 cards/pack for $1.29 (the pak had 
a suggested retail of 1.69...which is high!  equiv to 63� for a 15 card pak).

Dan

    
    RE: .58
    
    	Yes it is, and it was also incorrect.  TRU charges $24.99 for
    the hockey factory sets, $27.99 for FB and most baseball (UD is
    the exception).
    
    	Here's what I found this weekend (in some cases I post two
    	prices, because the prices changed significantly between the
    	two days):
    
    	o ProSet Platinum FB II - $24/Saturday; $19/Sunday
    
    	o ProSet FB II - $15/Sunday
    
    	o ProSet French Hockey - $16-18
    
    	o Upper Deck Hockey - $25-27
    
    	o Upper Deck Football - $25
    
    	o Pacific FB Hi Numbers - $29/Saturday; $25/Sunday $15/Factory
    		     Lo Numbers - $11/box
    
    	o TSC FB - $55-65/box
    
    	o TSC HK - $55-70/box
    
    	o Bowman Football - $9/box
    
    	o Topps Archives - $65/box
    
    	o Fleer Rookie Sensations - $14-30
    
    	o David Robinson Starting Lineup ("rookie") - Sat/$30-40, Sun/$25-30
    
    	o UD Basketball - $44-50
    
    	o Donruss DK's - Sat/$2-10; Sun/$4-18
    
    	o UD HK AW5, 6, and 7 are out ($2-5)
    
    -rjk

    Show in Westford
    UD Basketball $50
    Topps Stadium FB - $40
    Topps Stadium Hockey $60

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling Collegiate Wild Card football boxes
    	for $31, there is a limit of one per customer

    
    	Rotman's (Worcester, MA) is selling BB 92 Donruss boxes for $32, 
    	there is a limit of 2 boxes per customer.

    
    	I have been just informed (thanks Dan) that BJ's (Westboro, MA) is
    	selling BB 92 Donruss boxes for $24, there is a limit of one per
    	person, but you can go back in and get more.  I didn't go to
    	BJ's today, so I didn't know.

    
    - At BJ's on Saturday.  Comic Ball II complete sets (don't believe
      they had the holograms tho'), plus the album, in a "factory" style
      package -- $17.98
    
    - At a show in Worcester on Sunday.  Some prices really good, some
      stunk:
    
    	- UD Basketball.  $32-35/box, no budge.  Lots of dealers had
          common boxes for this already.
    
        - 1992 Score baseball.  $16.50/box, 2/$30.
    
        - 1991 Fleer Ultra Baseball Updates - $12.
    
        - StarPic AMC Factory sets - $12.
    
        - 1992 Fleer BK Rookie Sensations.  $3-9 each CARD.
    
    Very unimpressed.  Next week, on to the glorious climes of Clinton
    Mass!
    
    -rjk

    Albany NY...               
    UD Hoops $35 firm
    UD Hockey ~$29
    TSC Hockey $50
    TSC Football $53
    ProSet Plat FB (I & II) $19
    Topps 92 Baseball $13
    Philly 76er (I think) Cheerleader cards  $5
    ProSet Plat Hockey PS cards $1.50-$2 at one table, $3-$5 at another
    UD BK holograms Jorday $5-10, Stockton $1.50-$3
    UD Baseball Aaron Holo's $4

    
    BJ's this morning.
    
    Those were Comic Ball I factory sets they had for $17.98 -- limit
    1 per account.
    
    1991-92 Score American (purple border/box) $13.98 -- limit 1 per
    account.
    
    -rjk

    I didn't see any limit on the comic ball factory sets and they do have
    the holos but I bought one and there were 9 holos with 3 dupes.  Are
    there supposed to be 9 different holos in this set.  These sets could
    be rejects.  It is nice having the set with the holders.
    

    whoops.  
    

                                     
    	Went to BJ's today, they have re-stocked the shelves with 
    	92 Donruss boxes, you all know they had them before and were
    	all gone, but today they put out some more.  When I was there,
    	they still had about 1.5 cases left, and even though the sign
    	says there is a limit of 1 per customer, I saw a card show dealer
    	there who said: "I'm going to take a chance and see if I get away
    	with it".  He took 2 boxes and went thru the register fine, the
    	clerk didn't object to him buying 2 boxes, so it looks like the
    	sign is just to scare people.

    
    - UD BK $32-35, still not much movement on price.  One dealer told
      me had been selling a ton at $30, so had to charge me $32.  Yeah,
      right.
    
    - Fleer Ultra baseball (last week $12, this week $19) traded set.
    
    - Cheerleader boxes - $30, sets $6-7.  (A box obviously must yield
      quite a few sets).
    
    - Parkhurst seen.  $1.50 pack.
    
    - Donruss DK's ...
    
    	Thomas; $15-18
    	Justice; $10
    	Bagwell; $8
    	Molitor, Boggs, Clark, Xlist, etc.:	$5
    	Carter, Franco: $3
    
      Those are average prices.
    
    - Arena (hockey) draft pick sets; $8/french, $6/american.
    
    -rjk

	-rjk-

	Saw the Thomas DK cards for $6 and the set for $35.

    
    UD basketball was $32/box this weekend in southern nh and alot of it
    was around, it didn't seem to be moving to well.
    
    TSC football took a jump to $60-$70/box, probably because it is playoff
    time. although a dealer also related that the price on "the net" had
    jumped up in the last day or two.
    
    Saw several DKs for $4, Thomas for $8 and $10, personally i think this
    is way too high for these, but what do i know.
    
    TSC hockey was $75, UD hockey $28-$29, UD high number football
    $1.50/pack, pacific plus II (loaded) $1.00/pack, $30/box, $15/set.
    
    Topps 92 baseball was selling well, $24 rack box, forget what the
    regular wax boxes were.  
    
    jeff
    
    

    
    	Bj's (Westboro, MA) is selling 91 Score Baseball Series I for $14,
    	there is no limit.

I paid 12.50 for 91 Score Baseball Series I at a show in Westboro this
past weekend...

    
    	Correction...
    
    		What I entered 2 notes back, where I said 91 Score Baseball
    	Series I, I should have said  " 92 Score Baseball Series I ",
    	I guess I'm still having a hard time getting used to 1992.

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling 91 Pro Set French Parkhurst hockey
    	boxes for $28, there is a limit of one per customer, and you have
    	to fill out a slip and take it to the service counter.

	Building 19 flyer has ProSet Football wax boxes for 
	about $6.99 per box.  The year wasn't mentioned but
	the sample cards shows "1990", so their probably last
	years.

	Ken

    
    Toy's R Us still has ...
    
    	o Topps/Fleer/Score/Donruss (w/Studio preview -- if you can
          find a box with the shrink wrap intact that is) factory
          sets.
    
    	o Score Baseball (1992) -- .59� a pack.
    
    	o UD Hockey (lo) -- 1992 -- .79� a pack, which is below SRP.
    
    	Impel Disney cards, ProLine football, Comic Ball 2, some
    	Comic Ball factory set type arrangements.
    
    None of the prices impressed me. 

    
    Show in Bulrington today ...
    
    	o Parkhurst Hockey - $35.  One dealer (who had his at $45, was
    	  berating the first dealer to mark his at $35, telling him
    	  it was too low for this early, and if he didn't raise his
    	  price, they'd all have to lower theirs.  He didn't raise,
    	  everyone else except him lowered, and no one was buying.
    
    	o UD Hi number (Football).  $29-32/box.  $33-35 for a factory
    	  set (1-700) -- didn't see any factory sets of just the high
    	  numbers, although they're supposed to be produced.
    
    	o UD Basketball $35/box, still not much movement in terms of
    	  lowering the price or sales.
    
    	o Fleer Ultra FB Update sets - $16.
    
    	o SkyBox 1991-92, $15/box.
    
    	o Diamond Kings ...
    
    	  - didn't see any thomas
          - Bagwell/Justice - $5-10
    	  - everyone else $1-3
    	  - checklist $2-9 (yes, two to nine dollars, talk about range)
    	
    	o UD Basketball jumbos (these contain the rookie standout cards
    	  that were supposed to be "only in locker box series").  $3.75
    	  for packs, $65/boxes.
    
    	o UD/McDonald's -- $3/pack, $2/hologram.  Aren't these available
          with an 89� soda?  So even if they're not getting them out
          the back door, the MOST they're paying for these packs is
          89� CANADIEN, right?  About � the dealers had these.
    
    Some dealers were absolutely refusing to budge on prices, but three
    other dealers had big signs up that said "make an offer, i likely
    will accept" (or something similar) -- and they were!
    
    I've noticed something else.  Whenever you make an offer below what
    a dealer has listed lately, you're as likely as not to be told
    "that's what I paid for it".  It was amazing how often today dealers
    paid EXACTLY what I offered.  Amazing ... and dealers are paying
    such high prices, I should offer to sell my cards to them!
    
    -rjk                                                      

    
    Show in Warwick on Sunday ...
    
    	o Parkhurst hockey - $32.  PCH complete sets $8.
    
    	o UD BK $28 (one dealer, everyone else was $35).
    
    	o AMC Factory sets - $19.95
    
    	o Fleer Ultra FB Updates - $19
    
    Didn't check too much out, mostly went there for a dealer who has
    lots of singles ...
    
    -rjk

    
    
    	     **	NON-SPORT fans ** COMICS fans **
    
    	Went to Rotman's (Worcester, MA) to pick up my USA Score Hockey
    	Factory Set, and found out that you can pre-order boxes of the
    	upcoming Marvel X-Men trading cards for $15 and D.C. Cosmic trading 
    	cards for $20.  

    
    Show in tukesbury last night:
    
    Donruss 92  $28/box;  Classic 4-sport french $35/box; UD bkbl $1/pack,
    $33/box, $40/set, $45/set w/holos;  STC football $2/pack, $60/box;
    TSC hockey $2/pack, $85/set;  UD bkbl jumbos $3.25-$3.75 each.
    
    Toys r Us (their prices are getting worse, no more bargain anymore):
    Donruss 92 $35.64/box (straight .99/pack), Parkhurst Hockey .99/pack,
    Topps 92 $21.24/box (.59/pack). ProSet FB series II $1.29/pack.
    
    

    
    Jeff beat me to it.
    
    TRU has those "rare, scarce, only 20,000 cases printed" Parkhurst
    cards @ .99� a pack (or $35.64 a box before tax -- roughly what
    dealers are charging at shows).
    
    I cleaned 'em out ...
    
    bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 
    

    
    Show in Marlboro last night ...
    
    	Parkhurst hockey:	$35/box
    
    	UD Basketball:		$35/box
    				$4/pack (jumbos); $60/box
    
    	UD Hockey:		$6/pack (jumbos); $120/box, $75 - set of
    				  Euro-Stars
    
    				Canada/McDonald's -- 3 packs/$10, set of
    				  cards/holograms for $50
    
    	DK's:			Frank Thomas - $15
    				Ripken - $7
    				Bagwell - $12
    				Molitor/Franco/Bell/Jose - $4
    
    				(these were different dealers too, not just
    				 one!)
    
    Tweren't many deals to be had, and prices were pretty outrageous.

	Fellow noters...

		I talked to Nance yesterday, and she asked me to relay
	to all of you the message that she hasn't forgotten any of you.
	She is not located at Parker St., she has a different job, and 
	a different boss, and she is under a lot of pressure and strict
	supervision, and is not able to access the Notesfile as much as
	she would like to. 

    
    Show this weekend:
    
    	- Topps Archive boxes:	$85-100		sets; $125
    
    	- UD Basketball;  $32/"wax"	jumbos; $60
    
    	- UD Hockey (french);	$120/jumbo ($6.50/pack)
    				"E" sets; $75
    
    
    I wasn't paying too much attention to many other things.  Did
    find one amusing price.
    
    Disney (Impel) card #111 is "hot".  Worth $2.  Know why?  Because
    it's a "similar pose to the one on the Hologram".
    
    Get 'em before they're gone ...
    
    -rjk

    BJ's Johnston R.I.....

    92 Donruss $21.98/box

    
    Rotman's ...
    
    	o Fleer Ultra (FB) Update;	$17.99
    
    	o UD Football (HI) Wax;		$33.99	(limit 1/customer)
    
    	o UD Football factory (1-700);	$36.99	(limit 1/customer, very
    						 few in stock)
    
    	o Hoops II wax;			$15.99
    
    + sales tax
    
    -rjk

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) 92 Fleer Baseball boxes for $22, no limit.
    
    	Because of its past record, I hadn't paid much attention to Fleer 
    	Baseball this year, but I opened a pack of these, and I was very
    	impressed, they are very sharp looking, very nice indeed...

    HSC
    92 Score Wax Box... $34.50..
    

	Last night's show..

	92' Fleer League Leaders $2ea       (racks only)
	92' Fleer All-Stars   $2-$4         (depending on dealer greed)
	92' Fleer Clemens     $6-$8 $55/set (depending on dealer greed)
	All UD holograms      $1-$2         (depending on player)
	Donruss Diamond Kings $book$  8^((
	UD Football Namath's  $1.50ea
	UD basketball Jumbo's $3ea


	Small Show 

    Yeah, I did... I called in when they were $44/box, but the price
    went down.  I'm glad, did you know even if you call in early, you
    get the lowest price?  

	The U.S. Postal Service has come out with a 'Jackie Robinson"
	Postage Stamp Book. It's 68-pages, and in a Deluxe, hardbound
	edition. It's devoted to the inspirational stories of 28 Black
	Americans of accomplishment who have been commemorated on U.S 
	stamps. The collection includes 19 stamps and protective mounts
	and is wonderfully enhanced by an introduction by Alex Haley,
	author of the best-selling 'Roots', and 28 beautiful portraits
	by noted black artist and stamp designer Thomas Blackshear II.

	The price is $17.95.	The order number is 8816, and is avaiable
	for shipping after February 1st. You can call the Philatelic
	Sales Division at 816-445-4880 between 8:00am and 5:00pm, Central
	Standard Time, Monday through Friday. (Please make sure Digital
	doesn't pay for this call) Visa,Discover and Mastercard accepted.

	or

	Mail to:	United States Postal Service
			Philatelic Sales Division
			Box 449997
			Kansas City, Mo. 64144-9997
	
	Don't forget to include .50c for postage and handling..

    
    At the Sturbridge show yesterday ...
    
    	o ProSet French Hockey ($10-12/box)
    
    	o UD Hockey ($28), french jumbos $110, 2/$210
    
    	o UD Basketball ($34-35)
    
    	  Holos AW4 (DRoby), AW5 (Schrempf), and AW6 (Michael) are
    	  out (the numbers may be wrong, but those are the three players).
    
    	  This means the "second print run" of UD Basketball is out, and
    	  still no Heroes of Basketball cards.  Might not be any.
    
    	  Locker Boxes - $13.95 - $65/complete set of six.
    
    	  Didn't see any jumbos.
    
    	o UD Football (Hi - Wax) $26
    
    	o UD Football factory sets $33
    
    	o Score Pinnacle Football $35/wax box (first time seen)
    
    	o Score American (purple) factory sets - $13.50, wax - $12.00
    
    
    -rjk

    I heard a theory that the Heroes cards would be in the UD Basketball
    high numbers...
    
    Are the Rookie cards in the locker boxes the same ones in the jumbos?
    If you get 6 or 7 in a locker box, wouldn't it make sense to bag the
    jumbos?
    

    right, guarenteed 7 rookie stars in the lockers; I've seen the lockers
    as low as 12$; they are the same cards. 
    
    I'm guessing you're right walt, I think there'll be heros (jordan, 
    probably) in the hight numbers along with 3 more holos.
    
    -dennis 

    
    	Went to the Grand opening of Sam's wholesale club (Shrewsbury, MA)
    	just down the road from BJ's, anyone can shop there today without
    	having to become a member, but you will have to pay the 5% 
    	surcharge.  As of tomorrow, if you are not a member, they won't
    	even let you in to look.
    
    	Here is what they had,
    
    	Olympic Hall of Fame boxes	$23
    	Fleer Baseball boxes		 22
    	Donrus Baseball boxes		 27
    	Topps Baseball boxes (36 count)  15
    	Topps Baseball rack packs
    		boxes (24 count)	 25
    
    	Wild Card NFL boxes		 34 (the sign was there, but there
    					     were not boxes under the sign) 
    
	Also, I was talking to one of the clerks, and he said that they had
    	some boxes of Topps Stadium Club baseball, but they had so few of
    	them that they had to hold a lottery among the members that wanted 
    	to buy it.
    

    
    	FLASH !!  FLASH !!  NEW AT BJ'S !!
    
    	Pro Set Hockey Platinum II boxes 	$ 24
    	NBA Hoops II boxes		  	  14
    	Score Pinnacle Football boxes		  31 (limit 1 per customer)
    	Premiere edition (are these any good ?)

    
    	SPAG'S (Shrewsbury, MA) has
    
    	NBA Hoops II boxes	$ 12.50
    	92 Topps Baseball boxes   14.00 (these were sold out before)
    	(36 count wax packs)

    
    Response to 310.101
    
    BJ's has Proset Series II Platinum Football,  I didn't see any Proset 
    Platinum Hockey Series II.  Did you mean Hockey or Football
    
    Regards,
    Denny

    
    	Denny,
    
    		I don't remember if they were Football or Hockey, but
    	if you went there and found Football, then that's what it was,
    	because I went there yesterday, and they still had plenty left.

    
    	Break...   break...   I've got to take a break, 
    	I'm working too hard.
    
	The following news is going to blow away all the dealers that
    	are charging high $$$$$ for Holograms...
    
    	In the SCD, there is a dealer in the West Coast that is selling
    	all kinds of Holograms at rock bottom prices.  Here's an example:
    
    	Disney Holos (set of 2) 	$30/set
    	Star Trek Holos (H1 thru H4)	 15 each
    	Ninja Turtles (set of 4)          5/set
    	Arena Holos (1 thru 4)		  2 each
    	T2 (yes, there is one, 		 15 each
    	   (it's an Arnold Holo, rare)
    
    	When I first saw this, I thought about a scam, or about deffective
    	Holos, but yesterday, at a card show, I was talking to a guy who
    	already bought them from the same company, and he said they are
    	is nothing wrong with them.
    	
        In case anyone is interested, here is the info
    
    		American Liquidations
    		929 Commercial St.
    		San Jose, CA 95112
    		(408) 441-7719
    
    	They take Credit cards, and also send C.O.D.'s, 
    	shipping extra via UPS.
    
    	I am not connected with the above mentioned company in any way,
    	and I'm writing this on my break.
                                         

        B.J.'s Salem,N.H. has the Score Pinnacle Football $30.99 36 Ct.
    
    Pace Manchester N.H. has many cases NBA Hoop II  $12.59 Box  36 Ct.  
     "      "        "       "  1992  Topps Baseball $13.00 box  36 Ct.
     "      "        "       1991 Classic 2 Baseball  $7.77 per game
    
    
    John M.
    

    Hudmar - W. Main St Marlboro, MA
    
    They have 91-92 Score bi-lingual for $9.95/wax box

    
    Just visited the Rt. 9 Wholesale Clubs.
    
    BJ's is back carrying Topps @ 13.98 + tax/box.
    
    Sam's had the Conlon's cards for either 23.xx or 26.xx/box.
    
    It seems to me that Sam's was more expensive on all their boxes of
    cards.  Their Topps were 14. 78, their DonRuss was 26.xx compared with
    BJ's, where I think I paid 23.xx.
    
    Has anyone else noticed this about Sam's?
    
    Regards,
    Denny
    
    

    
    
    	Sam's prices are a dollar or two above our "PACE" wholesale club.
    
    

    Sam's is a buck or so higher than Price Club down here but for the
    longest time Sam's was the only wholesale type place in town.
    
    joe

    
    At a card show this weekend ...
    
    	- UD French Jumbos $90/box (2/$160).  English Jumbos seem to
    	  have dried up and are a lot hard to spot then french!
    
    	- Parkhurst French hockey (yes, they did produce 2,500 cases
    	  of French, and 12,500 cases English for a total of 15,000
    	  cases) -- $50/box.
    
    	- Pro-Set Hockey II (1991-92) -- $15/box.
    
    	- Rookie Sensations -- anyone except Brown and Coleman -- $3/each!
    
    	- 1992 UD baseball -- $34 box, 2/$65
    
    	- 1992 UD Heroes of Baseball (Ted Williams) - $3/card, but I
    	  managed to find a set of 9 sans cover card for $10
    
    	- 1992 Fleer Baseball $21.95
    
    
    This was at the Carlton Fisk show in Boxboro this weekend.
    
    -rjk

    At BJ's today:
    
    	- Pro-Set Hockey II (1991-92) - $13.58/box
    
    	  These were advertised as "regular" PS Hockey, but the box had
    	  listed info in both English and French.  Can these be PS
      	  French Hockey series II???  I'll have to check the series
    	  I boxes.
    
    
    Also at the Fisk show this past weekend:
    
        - Pro-Set Platinum Football, series I  for $12/box
                                     series II for $13/box  (same one's
    						BJ's is charging $24/box)
    
    	- Fleer Ultra FB (black box)  - $12/box
    
    	- Pro Set FB series II - $6/box
    
    
    These were all from one dealer who had cases of stuff.  He's out of
    Vermont and mentioned that his next show will be at Bishop Guertin next
    month (at the last BG show, he was setup in the cafe; look for him
    there again).
    
    	- dan

    
    Just heard on the radio, Bruins traded Craig Janney and Stephon
    somebody to the Blues for Adam Oates.
    

    Anyone been to BJ's in Westboro, Mass this week?
    
    What do they have?  Prices?
    
    Regards,
    Denny

    
    	I was at BJ's in Westboro yesterday, they didn't have anything
    	new, just the same old stuff, NBA Hoops, Pro Set Platinum Football,
    	not much at all.

    I was at a local Toys R Us and saw a *huge* pile of 1990 Football card
    boxes on sale for 6.99 ea. They were either Pro Line or Pro Set,
    something like that. They were in yellow boxes, if that helps.
    
    John D.

    1990 Pro Set II

    Show in Burlington
    
    Got a set of UD hi numbers for $12
    TSC Hockey common singles for 10 cents
    TSC Football common singles for 10 cents
    UD FB Hi box for $28
    Locker Series for $10
    Fleer Baseball $27

    
    UD Baseball (Wax) 1992	$29/30 box
    
    UD Basketball Locker Boxes	$12/box
    
    UD Basketball Wax		$30/box
    
    UD Football HI Wax		$24/box
    
    UD Football HI Factory	$12	(501-700)
    
    Fleer Clemens inserts	$4-5 each
    Fleer All-Star inserts	$4 minimum, more if it was "anyone"
    Fleer Rookie Sensations	$9 (blv it was Van Poppel)
    
    Platinum FB PC10		$3 (rumor that 8-10 were short-printed
    				    going around -- I sure as heck cain't
    				    find 'em for my set!)
    
    -rjk

    
    Oh yeah ...
    
    Donruss Series II		$27/box
    
    Can't quote any prices on the DK's, as most dealers said they
    were FLYING off the tables.  Most likely people wanting to buy
    them before the price guide comes out again!  8^)

    
    Show in manchester, nh yesterday:
    
    Fleer Clemens $3-$5/each, $35-$40 for the 1-12 set.  I had one store
    	owner claim he has sold two 1-12 sets from his store for $70!
    Fleer All-Stars - ranged from $1 for ones listed as 'commons' in latest
    		Beckett, to $10 for frank thomas.
    		(see below for a full breakdown)
    Fleer Rookie Sensations - $4 minimum for lessors, up thru $20 for
    		Bagwell and Plantier (saw no Thomas being offered).
    		(see below for a full breakdown)
    UD baseball $28-$29/box
    Donruss series II $27/box
    UD high football sets $13
    Williams heroes - $1.50 each, covers were being hawked for a 	
    	RIDICULOUS $12 to $18.  personally I think $5 shuld be about
    	the top price for these covers, althoug I admit to forking out
    	nearly twice that for a nameth cover in a weak moment...
    Donruss series I $28/box
    Stadium Club football $79-$90/box (this has been going up every
    	week since jan 1st)
    Stadium Hockey - $60/box, $2/pack
    Classic 4-sport $1/pack english, $1.50 for french/bilingual
    1989 UD low number baseball - $5-$6/pack
    Fleer wax - $25/box, Fleer cellos $2.25-$2.75/each, $50-$60/box,
     fleer rack boxes $55 (only two at the whole show).
    
    	Fleer All-Stars		Beckett		Going Price at show
    	---------------		-------		-------------------
    	Felix Jose		 .90		1.50
    	Tony Gwynn		2.00		3.00
    	Barry Bonds		2.00		3.00
    	Bobby Bonilla		2.00		3.00
    	Tom Glavine		 .90		1.50
    	Ramon Martinez		1.25		2.50
    	Scott Erickson		2.50		3.00
    	Frank Thomas		9.00	       10.00
    	Danny Tartabull		1.00		1.75
    	Will Clark		3.50		4.50
    	Ryne Sandburg		3.50		4.50
    	Terry Pendleton		 .90		1.50
    	Barry Larkin		1.00		1.75
    	Rafael Palmeiro		1.00		1.75
    	Robin Ventura		2.50		3.25
    	Cal Ripken		4.00		5.00
    	Joe Carter		1.00		1.75
    	Kirby Puckett		2.50		3.50
    	Ken Griffey Jr.		5.25		7.00
    	Jose Conseco		4.00		5.00
    
    	Fleer Rookie Sens	Beckett		Going Price at show
    	-----------------	-------		-------------------
    	Orlando Merced		3.00		5.00
    	Jeff Bagwell	       12.50		19.00-20.00
    	Jeff fassero		2.00		4.00
    	Wes Chamberlain		4.00		5.50
    	Chito Martinez		3.00		4.00-5.00
    	Ray Lankford		4.00		5.50
    	Phil Plantier	       12.50		20.00
    
    	similiar markup for the rest, something on the order of
    	1.5 to 2.0 times current book.  And yes they were selling
    	at these prices.  I think it will cool off though, it was
    	just the weekend for the people who wished to complete
    	these sets to run out and scarf up the singles they needed,
    	almost at any price just to avoid opening more fleer.
    
    	Also saw team leaders for $2-$3 for most, $4 for a griffey jr.
    

    Got these at a flea market in Woburn
    
    UD SP1 (Darrell Green) $5 (follow rjk's supply/demand theory?)
    Hull McDonald's holo - $1
    

   I saw 1990 1991  Pro Set Hockey II boxes for $9.99 

         1990 1991  Pro Set Football II boxes for $6.99 




  Wasn't 1990/91  Prosets first year of producing cards ???  This seems 
  rather cheap to me does anyone agree or disagree ???? 



   I'd like to go back and  get a couple boxes just to have. 


             Ron 

    Might be for hockey, Football was 89...
    

    Spag's marked down the '91 Topps FB boxes to $5.99 per box (saw
    this on Saturday 22-FEB).
    
    Dan

    
    	After work last night, I stopped at BJ's (Westboro, MA),
    	and they have '92 DONRUSS Series 2 Baseball boxes for $24,
    	they had about 3 cases left at the time.

    BJ's (in Westboro, Mass.) also had UD Basketball Series I for 18.95 +
    tax.  And I thought I felt pretty good when I bought my box for $36.
    If BJ's is making a profit at 18.95, the dealers are really making
    money.  Roy, where have I heard that before.
    
    They had Fleer '92 for 21.95/box and the boxes of 250 sheet, 9 cards
    per sheet for notebooks for 19.99 a box.  They had a bunch of old cards
    like DonRuss '90 and others for sale cheap.
    
    Regards,
    Denny

    
    Well, I went to BJ's last night and bought a box of U.D. basketball for
    $18.95. The limit was 1 per customer per day. To obtain a box you have
    to fill out a small slip with your name and id # of the UD basketball, 
    you must then bring this slip up to the front desk. They then check 
    through the names of all the people in which bought a box during the 
    duration of the day. If your name is not allready on this list you may 
    obtain a box, if by any chance your name "is" on the list and you allready 
    bought a box they will not sell you another one. A friend of mine wen't to 
    BJ's today hoping to obtain a box for himself. Today when he arrived they 
    said they had put them on the shelf with no limit and 1 guy bought them 
    "ALL".  
    
    So much for 1991-92 UD Basketball at BJ's
                        
    SteveO'
    

    For those of you collecting 1992 UD Baseball Holograms, do you know
    that there are holograms for the two new Franchises included in the
    set as well?   I got a Florida Marlins holo last week.

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) has 92 PRO SET NHL French boxes for $17.++
    	they didn't have that many left.  They also had one case left
    	of 92 Donruss Baseball boxes for $24, there is no limit on
    	this one, so don't expect it to last long.

    
    NHL French Series I, or II?
    
    Since Series one ended up selling for around $10-12/box ...
    
    -rjk

    
    
    	You're right Roy, I forgot to mention that it was series II.

    
    Show in Marlboro this weekend at the Radisson.  Some decent prices,
    some obscene.
    
    	o UD Basketball (lo)	- now seems to settled at $28, whereas
    				  it stayed at $30 for so long.
    
    	o UD Baseball (1992) jumbos - $50/box (one dealer)
    				      $2.75/pack (another)
    
    	o UD Reggie HOB cards - $4 each
    	o UD Hull HOH cards - $2 each
    	o UD Namath HOF cards - $2 each
        o UD Montana title cards - $10 each
    	o UD Namath sets (incl title card) - $22 each
    	o UD Williams sets - $9.50;  title cards - $4-5,  singles; $1-2
    
    	o Harley Davidson (factory sets - includes hologram) - $12
    
    	o Mutumbo rookies - $8-10,  Larry Johnson $5-8  (and for those
    	  who don't follow basketball, LJ is outplaying DM lately, and
    	  has passed him in a couple of categories.)
    
    	o New Beckett's Football has Leonard Russell (back cover)
    
    	o Donruss Series II Diamond Kings - $2-3 each / not many / not
    	  moving.
    
    	o Fleer prices are through the roof, except for wax, which is
    	  about $24/box -- the rest is ridiculous.
    
    -rjk

    Albany...
    UD basketball $28
    UD baseball $26
    UD football hi $25
    Clemens inserts $1.75
    UD Hull inserts $1.50
    UD Namath inserts $2
    UD Williams sets $14 (with cover)
    Toll House (?) sets $13, boxes $39
    Diamond Kings $2-3
    

    
    Oh yes, lest I forget.  Thee Dollhouse boxes were available at
    $65, and when I told the dealer I saw them the week before for
    $40 -- he told me "impossible!  wholesale was $42.50 a box".
    
    Maybe it's time for YOU to find a new wholesaler then, eh?
    
    -rjk

    
    
    		BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling boxes of '92 Hockey
    		PRO SET Platinum Series II for $25, there is a limit 
    		of 1 box per customer.
    

              
    
    		BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling boxes of '92 Basketball
    		Skybox Series II for $22.
    

    
    At a show this weekend:
    
    	UD HK Series II is out;	$29/box.
    
    	No "Find the xxxx" banner on the front of the box, and I've yet to
    see a news article about it, so I don't think they're having a 'heroes'
    subset in the hi numbers.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
    
    	The second phase of UD Baseball printing must be out, since the
    new holograms are out.  They're same size/shape as the gold ones, but
    these are silver, have a pennant, and have the date/location of the
    "heroes of" game for that team.  Only found one dealer with these.
    
    	HOB Reggie set;	$28
    	HOB Hull set;	$20
    
    	UD BK RS sets; $15
    
    
    	Dealers are beginning to show a little more interest in Pinnacle
    as the latest Beckett's had the set price rising.  Still not very hard
    to find boxes, but singles are a pain in the ....
    
    -rjk

    
    At a show yesterday:
    
    UD HK Hi numbers:  $28/box, there are no new heroes, there is a young
    guns subset, holos 4, 8 & 9 are in these boxes.  Factory hi number
    set should be out in a few weeks.
    
    ProSet Platinum Series II $29/box.
    
    TSC Football $2.50/pack, $75-$99/box.  One guy had 1 box for $75,
    the only other person with boxes had 3 @ $99/each.  This stuff is
    beginning to dry up, although I suspect there are still some very
    large stashes out there amoungst the "big boys".  I bought the $75
    box, geez I love this card and set!
    
    TSC Hockey $53/box
    
    1992 TSC Baseball Series I set - $49  (someone recently asked in
    	another note about a set price on this, first one I've seen,
    	bet it comes down given the relative lack of stars and RCs
    	in series I).
    
    Nameth Heroes - $2-$2.50/each, no covers to be found, apparently
    	one sold before I got there for $15 (ouch!).
    
    Action Packed All Madden 92 is out.  One dealer had them for 3 packs
    	for $5.  Forget the box price.
    

    
    RE: Jeff
    
    	The Young Guns from UD HK.  Are they a subset, or they are an
    insert set?
    
    -rjk

    BJ's in Salem Pinnacle Football $31/box.
    
    

    
    Re: young guns
    
    The guy just had a few sitting out and pointed to them when I ask
    the question about heroes.  He said there were no heroes, then I
    asked any "inserts" besides the holos, he pointed out the young
    guns.  I believe they are just a subset of the high number set,
    like last year, although I didn't turn one over to check the
    number for sure.
    
    jeff
    

    
    Yesterday I had an appointment after work and I decided to cut through 
    Dracut on my way home and I stopped at this litte card place. I went in 
    and was looking around and I had picked out a few cards then... 
    I noticed that he had the U.D. Hockey high numbers boxes on the shelf 
    and I asked him how much he wanted for a box ? 
    He said "well, those are only for my regular customers, I don't recall 
    you in here before so I really can't sell them to you"  
    
    I dropped the cards I had picked out back on the counter and said he
    wouldn't see me in there again either.. 
    
    
    Some people amaze me, #1. he shouldn't have had them sitting on the shelf 
    if they are reserved for specific people. #2 (more importantly) you should 
    not piss off new customers with stupid responses like his. Some people 
    really shouldn't be in business... Instead of selling off about $40.
    worth of merchandise he sold nothing anf drove away new business.. It's 
    unfortunate that I notice this gorilla like mentality with many dealers.
    Is getting a G.E.D. really that difficult ? 
    
    Ron
    
    

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) has 92 UD Baseball (finally!!!) boxes for
    	$25 each, there is a limit of one per customer.  They had close
    	to 4 cases today at noon.

    
    	BJ'S(Westboro, MA) is selling 91 Score Hockey USA complete
    	factory sets for $14, there is a limit of 1 per customer.
    
    	They also have Beauty and The Beast boxes for $15, and they
    	have re-stocked their shelves with 92 Donruss Baseball Series II
    	and 92 Fleer Baseball boxes.
                             

    Re: .147
    
    Dealers at the BG show had the Score Hockey USA Sets for as low $8.50,
    no tax either.
    
    John

    
    saw the 91 Score Hockey USA complete factory sets for as little as
    $8 at a show sunday. I asked and was told it does'nt include any of
    the Booby Orr repros.
    
    Dick

    
    Today I found that competition is yeilding good news around here.
    We have just recently had a CostCo open here in nashua, nh and also
    recently a Sam's Club just across the river in Hudson, nh.  Sam's
    opened first and their prices were a few bucks more than CostCo's
    for the same stuff.  However, today when I went to Sam's they had
    changed their prices to all be a few cents under Costco's prices
    (this is on stuff like fleer wax, donruss series II, etc.)
    
    Can't wait until the Bj's opens up the road from CostCo and a stone's
    throw over the river from Sam's.  Competition is good.
    
    jeff
    

    
    
    	SPAG'S (SHREWSBURY, MA) is selling 92 Score Baseball Series 2
    	boxes for $14, and they have a bin full of 92 Topps Baseball
    	Rack packs for $1.30 each.  I thought all the gold cards
    	would have been gone by now, but I didn't assume that and
    	started looking thru them and found 2 of them.

       Spag's also had Topps '92 wax boxes for $12.99 last week.
                                        Denny

    BJ's also has '92 baseball Score series II boxes for $13.58
    
    Dan

    
    	I also forgot to mention that SPAG's has 
    	92 Classic Baseball Games sets for $10
                            

    
    Has anyone heard if Leaf(BB) is going to come out with a set this year?
    
   Jim

    	
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) has 92 Fleer Basketball Update boxes
    	for $13.xx , there is a limit of 1 per customer.

    
    2 shows y'day (Radisson in Marlboro, Mass; Musial Show in Sturbridge)
    
    - Pinnacle Hockey is out, in plentitude.  Boxes could be found for
      $32-38, and dealers were willing to bargain.
    
      No idea yet on the official set size, or if there are definitely
      inserts -- can anyone conform?  The highest number my BIL got was
      #420, and he got NO inserts, so ...
    
    - UD Baseball Jumbos (HR Heroes) -- $48-55/box, $2.75-$3.50/pack.
    
    - UD Baseball $25-30/box
    
    - UD Hockey Jumbos ("E" cards) -- $43-60/box
    
    - Fleer Ultra Baseball -- $65/box -- and it was *flying*.  This is
      a gorgeous card, much like TSC as others have stated, but the
      front design is much better (whereas the backs are weak on both
      IMO).
    
    - UD Williams Cover cards - $10-15, sets $20-30.  Incredible.  And
      people are scoffing up the title cards as soon as they hit the
      dealers tables!
    
    - Mickey Mantle will be in Norwalk CT in September.  If you want
      details, send me mail.
    
    - Fleer Basketball updates - $15-17/box, $35-40/cello box.  Mutumbo
      inserts $3-5/each, Wilkins inserts $2-4/each.  Johnson - $3-5,
      Mutombo - $3-5, Owens - $3-5.  Last year's update sets seem to 
      be comnig out of hoarding, uh excuse me, I mean hiding, and were
      readily available at $13-17 each.
    
    -rjk

    Went to a show in Albany...
    
    Pinnacle Hockey out around $35/box
    Fleer Ultra baseball - no boxes, $2.25-$3/pack (have seen here for
    $1.75)
    UD baseball jumbos - $2.75/pack
    Fleer Basketball Update $15/box (reg. Mutombo $3)
    UD hockey updates $15-18
    92 TSC series 1 : $45/box (passed, will wait for Ultra Baseball to
    come down...)
    

    In Charlotte NC.
    
    Hank Holos 2.50
    90 score Hockey $25 box
    St club Baseball $2.00 pack
    UD Jumbos $47 box
    92 Fleer Ultra George Bell $.50 (bwah ha ha ha ha ha)
    
    

    
    BJ's has Wild Card Basketball (30.99 + tax) and Pinnacle Hockey (31.99
    + tax).  Limit one per customer per day.
    
    Regards,
    Denny

    
    Went to a show in Fitchburg last night.
    
    Talk about ludicrous prices ...
    
    o UD Basketball HI -- $2/pack, $25/hand-collated set (different
      dealers).
    
      West cover card -- $20
    
      "You only get one per case.  This card's gonna be $30 before you
       know it."
    
      I think I'll wait.
    
      West singles - $4
    
    o Two different dealers had the UD HH2 (Williams Holo) -- one wanted
      $18, one wanted $20.  Puh-lease.
    
    o UD 92 Baseball holograms -- ranging from .15� to $3 (depending upon
      the dealer).
    
    o UD HK hi sets -- $15 (saw them this weekend for as low as $12).
    
    o Score "Franchise" Players;  $15-25 singles, $75-set.
    
    
    Amazing ... it never ends ...
    
    -rjk

    
    Two shows in Warwick RI this weekend; one in West Warwick (small
    show - 45 tables), the other a larger show at CCRI in Warwick
    (Mike Belisle -- how often do they have this show -- once a month?).
    
    Some prices seen this weekend:
    
    	o '92 Score Franchise cards: $15-35 each, $75-150/set (yes, the
          prices vary THAT widely).
    
    	o '91-92 UD Basketball HI; $50-60/box, $20-25/hand collated set.
          Holos (AW7:AW9) selling for $2-3 each (Coleman, Hakeem, Rodman
          -- ROY, ?Blocked Shots?, Defensive POY).  Now for the bad news:
    
          West Cover Cards -- $20 each.  FIRM.  3 different dealers.
          West HOB sets -- $50-60!
          West singles -- $4 each.  FIRM.
    
    	o Fleer Baseball Rookie Sensations set; $150
    
    	  (For those interested, Shaws in Leominster Mass has these cellos
    	   for $1.99 each -- they also have basketball HI cellos for the
    	   same price).
    
    	o Fleer Basketball Mutombo/Wilkins inserts;  $3-5, and $2-3
    	  respectively.
    
    	o Hoops "Gold USA Olympic" Insert card ("CC2" - HI Numbers)
    	  $12-15
    
    	o SkyBox "CC1" -- $25+
    
    	o Williams cover cards - $15.  Sets - $18.  Go figure.
    
    -rjk

	CCRI shows are once every 6 weeks....

    
    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) has more 92 UD Baseball boxes for $25,
    	there is a limit of 1 per customer.
    
    	Speaking of baseball, congratulations to Steve Oloughlin,
    	who won 2 grandstand tickets for a night game to see the
    	COLD DEAD SOX, sorry, I mean... THE RED HOT RED SOX
    
				

    
    Show yesterday in Burlington (Bill Hedin -- 90 tbls -- run approx.
    1/month -- pretty good show).
    
    
    Yesterday was one of those days that makes it worth haunting all the
    gyms and dingy motels.  Lots of stuff found for my collection, and
    dealers very willing to haggle on the price.  Good deals found, etc.
    
    Some of the notables:
    
    	o UD/BK  HI/Wax	- $32-34/box
    		 HI/Lockers - $8-10/box
    
    		 RSensations $1 (no names) to $6.50 (Billy Owens).  At
    		 those prices, buy the locker boxes.
    
          Despite Brill's contentions, I didn't see ANY basketball header
    	  cards y'day.  And I've seen a lot more (relatively speaking)
    	  of cards 1-9 than I have of the header.
    
    	o UD/BB
    
    	  Williams Cover Cards - $9-15
    	  Only saw on HOB/Special Card -- Brock $20
    
    	  These started out around $25-30 each last year too, and now can
    	  be found (although not easily) for $15 each, $45-50/set.  So
    	  don't buy in at these high early prices.
    
    	  Williams (HH2) hologram - $7-20.
    
    	o Original "6" Hockey cards - $19/set, $20/box.  With some luck
    	  or buying a few commons, 3 sets is not unreasonable to build
    	  from one box, so ...
    
    	o 1991-92 Score Hockey "HOT" cards -- $20/set.
    
    	o 1992 Classic 4-Sport LP8 (Rocket/Hockey).  One dealer had it
    	  for $15, and sold it to my BIL for $12, and the other had it
    	  for $20 and wouldn't budge.
    
    	o Babe Ruth promo "hologram" - $25.  Nice hologram, but $$$$
    
    	o Fleer Ultra Boxes - $75-85, nice set, but ????
    
    	o Fleer BK inserts; Mutombo - $3-5, Wilkins - $1-2.
    
    -rjk

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) has boxes of Looney Tunes Series III
    	for $18/box, there is a limit of 1 per customer.
    	
    	This new Looney Tunes series III features Jim Abbott,
    	Ken Griffey Jr. & Sr. with 9 different brand new Holos.
    
	Also, last week they over 3 cases of 92 UD Baseball second
    	printing Heroes of Baseball, today, there were only a few
    	boxes left, less than a case.

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) has UD 91-92 NFL complete 700 card
    	factory sets for $27.

    
    Some stuff that was out and about this weekend ...
    
    	- Upper Deck Basketball factory sets -- $33-35
    
    	  (ed: Personally I think this set is much more worth the money
    	       than the FB set.  Johnson, Mutombo, Steve Smith, Billy
    	       Owens, John Starks, Stacey Augmon, Greg Anthony are just
    	       a few of the rookies in this set -- both in their "draft
    	       day poses" and in action, whereas the FB set doesn't appear
    	       to have anyone ready to carry the set)
    
    	- Upper Deck Hi-Number Jumbo BK Boxes	$50-55
    
    	  (Ed: Thought this was a little low for the first time sighting,
    	       but trust me, I'm not complaining! 8^)
    
    	- Upper Deck Lo-Number Jumbo BK Boxes	$49-53
    
    	- Upper Deck Locker Boxes;	Lo: $9-12	Hi: $10-13
    
    	- West Singles -- $10 (bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha)
    
    	- Harley Factory sets - $35-45		Hand-collated: $22-35
    	  Foil Boxes: $44
    
    	- X-Men/DC Comics:	$4/set
    
    -rjk

    To whoever sent me the Florida Marlins hologram last week, thanks!
    My wife opened and tossed the envelope before I got home from a
    business trip.

    The newstand store in Pheasant Lane Mall had Jumbo Boxes (hi number)
    at cose ($39.60 I think) last week and packs for $1.99...
    

    
    Picked up the Score Impact Players Series II set for 9$ this weekend.
    Also picked up a hand-collated UD BKB Hi #  set  for  15$.  The Score
    Franchise Player cards  were  going for 10-13$. Mantle was 13$. These
    things dropped real fast.
    
    John

       Conlon Series I (1991) for $19.xx at The Fair in W. Boylston (rte
    12).
                                                            Denny 

    
    Suprisingly enough at Toys R Us, a decent price:
    
    UD High number locker boxes -  $9.99
    
    They also had UD high number basketball packs although I'm not sure
    what the price was.  At the TRU here in nashua they keep the lockers
    behind the customer service desk, you have to ask for them.  They do
    this to limit the number to any one customer, I picked up one locker
    each for Dennis and I, the woman working the counter said the limit
    was 5.  She also said that they were expecting more Fleer Ultra
    (although they weren't expecting it to last very long, even if limited
     to one box per customer.)
    
    jeff
    

    
    	BJ'S (Westboro, MA) has boxes of Donruss Triple Play
    	for $13.xx, there is a limit of 1 per customer.

    
    	...another side offer for a card.
    
    	Left on my desk from a co-worker:
    
    	"Red Sox Raisins"
    	advert. with the package of 8 reads:
    	FREE 3-D Hologram Baseball Card of Reggie Jackson/Nolan Rynan
    	Send $1.00 (free??) for postage plus 1 p-o-p from bottom of any
    	size box of American Raisins.
    
    	check to: American Raisins Card Offer
    
    	American Raisins Card Offer
    	P.O. Box 30
    	Selma, CA 93662			(exp 12/31/92)
    
    	

    
    the good:  UD High number basketball .79/pack 
    
    the bad: UD basketball factory sets $39.99 ( not too bad I guess, but I
    	had one offered to me at a show for $35 last week).
    
    the ugly:  92 stadium baseball series II, $1.99/pack!
    
    

    
    the maybe:  92 stadium baseball series II  $1.89/pack at K-Mart.

    
    	OK, guys...  take it easy now, don't get excited, there
    	is no need to panic.  Hey... where is everyone going..?
    
    	I guess they're all going to BJ's to buy one box of
    	Fleer Ultra for $37, there is a limit of one per day
    	per customer, and you have to fill out a form and
        take it to the Service Desk where they will write down
    	your name and membership number.  They said they had
    	10 cases, but now that everyone knows about it, I doubt
    	if they will last thru tomorrow. 
    	

    
    At a show yesterday:
    
    Series II Stadium Club $50/box, Pinnacle baseball silly at $75-78/box,
    UD BAsketball factory sets a pittance at $30 (saw the guy near the
    end of the show and he had sold only 2 all day!).  Still way too 
    many dealers for the amount of customers spending money, a real
    buyer's paradise is shaping up out there, remember to name your
    price at any show you attend, someone will likely take you up on
    your offer, just so they make some money that day!
    
    jeff
    

	In a single pack of UD High Hockey:  

		AW4 (Belfour) *and* AW9 (Lemieux)

	Both of which I needed.  I like it when that happens...
	
	Ken

    Score Pinnacle Baseball is out.  Bought a pack (for $2) at Hudmar's in
    Marlboro, Mass.  Very Nice looking cards.
    
    Regards,
    Denny

    
    What I found at a TRU recently ...
    
    	- tons of boxes of Batman SC cards.  $1.79 a pack.  only one
    	  box of the regular batman cards -- $.49/pack.
    
    	- quite a few boxes of tsc II -- $1.79/pack.
    
    	- tons of pinnacle football ($1.79) and hockey ($1.29)
    
    	- ud basketball factory sets $39.99
    
    	- 1992 pro set football ($.99/pack)
    
    	- 1992 ud baseball (heroes run) -- $1.09/pack
    
    -rjk

	2 cases of 1992 ProSet Football Series I @ $21.??/box

	At least 5 more cases of 1992 UD Baseball @ $24.99/box
	(BJ's just received a shipment of these in the past week also)

	They also receive cases of 1992 Topps BB RakPaks,
	1992 Donruss BB Triple Play, and 1992 Fleer BB (regular cello)

	Get 'em while they're scarce!!

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling...
    
    	Wildcard Collegiate Basketball boxes (limit of 1) for $30
    
	92 Pro Set NFL Series I boxes (limit of 1) for $21
    
	The UD Baseball 2nd. printing boxes are almost gone.

    A/B Cards, in West Acton, has Marvel Series III in at $27/box.  Is this
    a good price?  Given that I'm starting late, are these sets of cards
    worth getting into?  
    
    He also has Parkhurst Series II in at $37/box.
    
    Regards,
    Denny

    
    	Denny,
    
    	     I pre-ordered Marvel III boxes from Rotmans for $20/box,
    	I have seen them at the card shows for $25/box.  You may want
    	to call Rotmans to see if the price is still the same now that
    	they are out.  I should also tell you that I didn't get a 
    	complete set out of the box I opened, I was 4 cards short.
    	The set is worth getting, IMNSHO.

    		I picked up a box at Rotmans yesterday for $25 plus
    tax it came out to $26 and some change. I was missing about 20
    cards and 2 holograms for a set.
    
    Miguel

    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I have cross-posted this in the COMICS notesfile.
    
	The Marvel Series III cards are out. And....Marvel has done
	it again. Marketing...marketing....marketing.

	For those of you buying boxes...don't expect to get even one
	full set out the box. I got 3 boxes. The first box was missing
	26 cards of making a full set. The second box was missing 7
	cards from making a full set. I was able to use extras from
	set 1 to fill in 6 of the 7. From set 2, I was able to fill in
	8 missing in set 1. At this point, I'm missing 1 from set 2 and
	18 from set 1.

	The third box yielded a set short 12 cards. But...I was able to
	fill in from sets 1 & 2 extras to complete it. I was also able
	to finish set 2 with the one card from set 3. Yet...set 1 is
	still short 6 cards after filling in from set 3.

	The ones that seem real hard to get and fill in are the 150's.
	Any or all of these cards are hard to get and don't expect extras
	of these.

	As for the holograms...I got one Wolverine, 2 Hulk, 2 Venom,
	3 Ghost Rider, and 4 Thing. The Wolverine is blue, the Hulk is
	green, the Venom is silver, the Ghost Rider is pink, and the
	Thing is orange. And the holograms are not as good as before,
	except for the Venom, which is the same old silver and shows up
	well. Good average of 4 per box.

	Looks like I'll either have to buy another box or start picking
	individual packs of cards to finish the third set. My son gets
	one of these sets, I get one of these sets and the third gets
	put away for future sale. I have done this with previous sets.
	Marvel is sure gonna get alot of people's money on this one...even 
	to get just one set. And at $27-$30 a box...this is the most 
	expensive set of cards out to date. At least one gets one full 
	set and usually two sets in the Batman Stadium box for the big 
	bucks. Heavy sigh...oh...well.


	John

    

    
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	now back to our regularly scheduled program...
    
    	BJ'S (Westboro, MA) is selling Pro Set 92 NHL Parkhurst II
    	for the measly price of $30/box, there is a limit of one,
    	but they are on the shelves, so you can probably get away
    	with buying more than one at a time.

    
    Sam's - Pinnacle series I baseball $47.23/box.
    
    Costco - 92 Fleer football $23.99/box.
    
    TRU - Pinnacle $1.89/pack, I didn't check prices but they also had
    	Parkhurst series II, Marvel series III, USA Basketball, Olympic
    	cards (impel), etc., etc.
    
    jeff
    

    
    Show today in bedford, nh:
    
    Leaf series I boxes - $50, sets were $33 from one guy and $60 from
    another!  The same guy with the $60 sets wanted incredible prices
    for his Gold Edition cards, like $10 for Ryan, $15 for plantier,
    most folks were laughing in his face.  His only comment was "show
    me the book and I'll adjust my prices".
    
    92 Fleer football - $24/box, no one had broken any so I saw no inserts
    for sale.
    
    92 Fleer Ultra - $62-$70/box, one guy had sets for $29, others as high
    as $45.  Alot of dealers had various award winners, but most were
    asking too much for them, watch these drop once series II comes out
    and people start chases those inserts instead.
    
    West covers were pretty much $25, but more than a few had them, full
    West hero sets were $55+.  Still too high IMHO.  It's interesting that
    after 9-12 months all of the sudden tons of the various heroes sets
    show up on the market (and the price drops).  So I'm waiting and
    waiting on the Wests and I hope they will do the same.  I fully
    expect American Liquidators to have the sets with cover a year from 
    now for $30 or less.
    
    Pinnacle was $50/box, keep it.
    
    jeff
    

At The Collection Connection in Westford, MA (on Rte 110 in the barn)

I bought a box (250) of Ultra Pro Platinum 9-up card holders for $30.00
including tax.  That seems to be the best price around...

Had to wait until the kids went to bed to get caught up on putting things
into them, though!

K

PS Will trade the Ultra Pro Danny Tartabull card I got.  As usual, I'm
looking for Nolan Ryans (especially inserts) in exchange.  :^)  

    
    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling boxes of 
    	Baseball 92 Score Pinnacle for $47, there
    	is a limit of 1 per day, and you will have
    	to take a blank from the rack, fill it out
    	and take it to the Service Desk where they
    	will record:
    
    		your membership number,
		the box UPC id number,
    		your social security number,
    		the deed to your home mortgage,
    		and you will have to swear on the Bible
    		that you won't come back the same day
    		to try to buy more boxes  8-)  8^)  8*)
    
    	Ever since I stopped buying those high priced items
    	my blood pressure has dropped 10 points, my wallet
    	has stopped losing weight, and I can sleep better
    	at night.	
    	
    		Good luck guys...
    
                                     

    
    BJ's in Nashua is open for their preview member's day today, grand
    opening is officially tomorrow.  They had Pinnacle for $46.99 and
    Parkhurst 2 for $29.99, one box limit during their grand opening.
    (and no 5% sales tax, thank you ;-)
    
    The woman at the desk told me they would only limit to one box
    for the first day of certain cards, then throw it open, but in all
    cases you have to fill out pick-up slips to get the cards.
    They weren't doing anything to write down your number so it would
    seem you could probably go back again the same day, is $29 a good 
    price for Parkhurst 2?
    
    jeff
    

       Where's the new BJs located Jeff?
       We've got one coming to Leominster supposedly in the Fall. That's the
    only reason I rejoined.
                                 Denny

    
    The nashua BJs is in the Super Shaws plaza off DW highway just north
    of the Sagamore (sp?) bridge to Hudson.  It's the plaza behind Wendy's.
    I guesstimate it's about 2-3 miles north of the Phesant Lane Mall and
    the mass state line up old route 3.
    
    jeff
    

                                           
    	OK guys, here comes another high priced item...
    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling Leaf Gold 92 Baseball Series I
    	boxes for $38, there is a limit of 1 per person, but they're
    	on the shelf, so you know what that means.
    
    	They also have 92 Fleer Football boxes for $25, no limit.
    
    	Some might call the above combo:
    
    		The good and the bad, or...
    
    		The Beauty and the Beast.
    
    
    
    			BJ's Scoutmaster
    	

    
    - At a show this weekend:
    
    	- Pinnacle Baseball; $49-55/box
    	  "B" Cards -- $35-50 (and there seems to be a lot more of these
    	  	       than the Hockey ones)
    
    	- Fleer Ultra II hand-collated sets; $45
    	  Couldn't find boxes or insert cards
    	  The "corrected" Ripken now seems to be out in abundance and
    	  most dealers are charging the same price as the error card.
    
    	- Upper Deck Hockey; $20/24 (lo/hi).  No factory sets yet -- I
    	  don't think they're going to be out.
    
    	- 90-91 UD Hockey factory updates; $25 (that is not a type-o).
    
    	- Stadium Club Batman; $30-45/box
    
    	- Met a dealer who told me she's buying up every "B" card she
    	  can at every show she works -- before the doors are opened.
    	  You don't want to know what she's charging.  Ay carumba.
    
    	- USA Basketball Sets; $20-25
    
    	- Fleer Football Sets (hand-collated) $25
    	  RIP-en inserts - $3 (and scarce interest)
    	  Cello Boxes $60, Wax Boxes $27
    
    	- Olivia Prism Sets; $60 (or $12 for singles)
    
    -rjk

    FWIW, A/B Cards in W. Acton, had a case of Fleer Ultra II at 1.50/pack
    and 49.95/box on Monday night.
    
    He'll be open again on Thursday 3pm to 8pm.
    
    Regards,
    Denny

    
>    FWIW, A/B Cards in W. Acton, had a case of Fleer Ultra II at 1.50/pack
>    and 49.95/box on Monday night.
    
    
    Anyone have directions to A/B Cards in West Acton?
    
    Thanks,
    Greg
     

    Directions to A/B Cards:
    
    From Route 2 and Route 27:
    
    	South on Rt. 27 (towards Maynard).  First set of lights (Rt. 111)
    	turn right.  Less than a mile you'll see the village of W. Acton as
    	you come up a hill.  There will be a building on your right that
    	looks like an old, reconverted church.  At that corner (Spruce St.)
    	turn right.  Mobil gas station is on your left.  A/B Cards is less
    	than 50 yards on your right.
    
    From Maynard:
    
    	North on Route 27 to Route 111.  Turn left and follow instructions 
    	above.
    
    Call first (508-264-9980) and make sure they are still there at that price.
    That price seemed low to me given this early in the release of that product.
    
    Regards,
    Denny
    

    Score Pinnacle Series 1 at Costco-Nashua @$47/box
    

    
    - Pacific FB is out ... 75� a pack, $20 a box.  Same design as last
      year (backs are different), but they've got UD-insert-mania;
    
    	- A 9-card Steve Largent "Legends of the Game" insert set (what?
    	  no title card from the ud-wanna-be?).  According to Mike Cramer
    	  of PT, you'll find 3-5 SL cards per box.
    	- An 8-card checklist insert set.  Not numbered as part of the
    	  330 card first series, but numbered "checklist 1 of 8, 2 of 8".
    	- An 25 card "Pacific Picks The Pros" set; gold in wax boxes
    	  and silver in cello.
    	- A 30 card "Team Leaders" insert set (28 teams, 1 card for
    	  AFC and NFC rushing leaders).
    	- The first series is 330 cards, the final 10 (321-330) being
    	  assorted rookies from this year's draft.
    
    - Everyone's busting Leaf for the gold cards and rookie cards.
      Complete sets of the first series were available for $20.  Boxes
      were fairly cheap and plentiful too, around $40-45.
    
    - Ditto Pinnacle.  Sets are cheap, boxes are around $45-50.
    
    - Fleer Ultra II was around $45/set, $60-65/box, and lots of dealers
      had it.
    
    - Mad complete sets (Lime Rock, hand-collated) $6!
    
    -rjk

    
    Oh yeah, about the UD All-Star Heroes set.
    
    A couple of dealers had this set this weekend, but wouldn't quote me
    a price on a complete set.  They had busted up sets and were selling
    the singles for between $1 and $8-10 (Ripken, Williams, KG Jr., etc)
    -- multiply that by 50 cards in the set, and you get an idea why I
    think HSC's price for $14.75 was decent, if not really good.
    
    Might be worth watching the HSC tonight ...
    
    (Channel 11 for those of in Leominster/Lancaster/Sterling/Clinton,
     etc. - Continental Cablevision, not the Ch. 29 QVC)
    
    -rjk

    re: -.1
    
    >> (Channel 11 for those of in Leominster/Lancaster/Sterling/Clinton,
    >> etc. - Continental Cablevision, not the Ch. 29 QVC)
    
    Continental is Lancaster/Sterling/Clinton; I believe Leominster is
    in the Montachusett ?? Cable district...
    
    dan
    

    
    Sorry.  My mistake.  It's the one where "Brian" hosts the show.
    I believe they call it their "play ball" special.  They rarely have
    guests on the show.
    
    Whereas QVC has a lot of autograph guests, and is hosted by that
    little squat guy who wears all the jewelry.  (Side note:  Whitey
    was on a couple of weeks ago, and the host was talking about his
    adventures at Yankees Fantasy Camp [Mickey/Whitey's actually],
    and he stated that Whitey was nice enough to lend him one of his
    uniforms.  Whitey blurted out quickly "you didn't fit into one of
    my uniforms!".)
    
    -rjk

	Until this weekend, when they're all going to a yard sale according
	to Dan:

	3 packs/$1.00
	-------------

	BASEBALL:
	89 Bowman
	90 Fleer cellos
	89 Score
	91 Score II
	90 Topps Traded

	FOOTBALL:
	90 Fleer
	91 Fleer
	91 Fleer Ultra
	91 Pacific Plus
	91 ProSet Platinum I
	90 Score II
	91 Score I
	90 Topps

	HOCKEY: (years were as marked on the package)
	90 Bowman
	91 Bowman
	91-92 OPeeChee
	90 ProSet
	91 ProSet II
	91 Score English (purple)
	91 Score I Bilingual (red)
	91 Topps

	OTHER:
	91 PGA Tour
	Olympic HOF series
	too many non-sports cards to name, mostly from TV shows,
		some from movies, including:
			Batman (Returns?)
			Robocop II
			The Little Mermaid
			Rocketeer
			Addams Family
			etc.


	Any exceptional deals here?

	Ric	
	

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling boxes of 92 Skybox USA Basketball
    	for $40, there is a limit of 1, and you have to fill out
    	a pick-up slip and take it to the service counter.
    
				Juan

    
    CostCo in nashua has Marvel III for $17.87/box (i think, it was
    17 something). Also they still have plenty of Skybox USA Basketball
    for $39, and plenty of Score Pinnacle series 1 for $46 (no limits).
    
    No ultra series 2 though (boo hoo)
    
    jeff
    

    
    - Fleer Football $20/box
    
    - OPC Premiere Baseball $29/box
    
    - Fleer Ultra II $2.50-$2.75/pack, $60-68/box  All-Stars are around
      but priced from $3 ("common") to $13 (F. Thomas) -- these are UGLY,
      the Fleer regular set All-Star sets were better looking than these.
    
    - Upper Deck FanFest sets, $27-30
    
    - Topps MicroSets $10
    
    - Score Pinnacle "jumbos" $3.00/pack, $65/box (how many packs are in
      a box?).
    
    
    Didn't see any UD high number boxes yet (wax, jumbo, sooper dooper
    insert run, whatever) -- anyone?  Also does anyone know if they will
    be producing a factory hi-number set, and if so, will it be gold
    hologrammed or silver?
    
    Also, UD has a litho repro of a Ted Williams litho available, for
    15 wrappers, $2, and an official order form -- available only from
    your UD dealers, no reproductions allowed.  Anyone know of any
    dealers that have these?  Mind picking me up one?  Puh-lease?
    
    -rjk

    
    Roy,
    
    	There are 24 packs in the jumbo pinnacle boxes.
    
    
    Jim

    
    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) has boxes of Comic Ball IV for $20,
    	there is a limit of 1 per customer.  This time, the
    	Looney Tunes characters intermingle with football players
    	like Lawrence Taylor, Thurman Thomas, Jerry Rice and
    	Dan Marino.

    For all you Notre Dame football fans,  I found packs of first edition
    Notre Dame football cards at a package (liquor for most normal states)
    store on the Cape this weekend.  I bought one ($.59) for a friend of
    mine.  There were packs of cards another team as well , which I think 
    was Georgetown.
    
    Regards,
    Denny
    

    
    CostCo in Nashua, nh has Topps Baseball factory sets for $22.99, you
    get one pack of 10 ToppsGolds included.  They also got in Topps
    football series 1, $13.50/box.  The big news here is that is says
    right on the box: "One ToppsGold per *pack*"!  Whoppie!
    
    If anyone is interested in either or SkyBox USA Basketball for $39
    or Pinnacle Series 1 baseball for $46 (both of which they still have
    plenty of), let me know and I'd be glad to pick it up for you.  Only
    stipulation is you must arrange prompt pickup from me somewhere
    near nashua or merrimack.
    
    jeff
    

    Anybody watch HSC last night??
    
    Just flipping through the channels, HSC advertised for complete '89 - 90
    Topps Hockey insert sets (21 or 22 cards) for $4.50 plus $2.79 shipping
    and handling.  I thought this was a pretty good deal so I called in.
    Using Tootie, the system said they were now taking orders for the
    '90-'91 Topps Hockey 22 card set.  I then looked closer at the cards
    on the screen and agreed, they were the leaders from '89-'90 so they
    had to be '90-'91 cards.  Ordered three sets so the shipping and
    handling went down to about $1.75 per set.
    
    This wasn't their regular card show with Brian and the other one
    yapping what a great deal this was, just some summer bargathon...
    
    Dan

       They also had the '76 SPCC set for $69.75+S&H. It included the Error
    'Noland' Ryan card.
                                     Denny

    The '76 SSPC set was a decent bargain. I picked up one of those. My
    wife said they had  some  other  sets  (turned out to be one of the
    Topps Glossy send away sets  when  I looked). I told her Mike Kelly
    had 'em cheaper ;-)
    
    John

       Yeah, I got the SSPC too. Is there a price guide that lists uncut
    sheets? They had a complete '85 Topps uncut set for $200+. It was tempring
    but I didn't do it.
                                         Denny

    Just got back from BJ's (Westboro, Mass.) they have:
    
    	Topps Football Series I
    	Comic IV 
    	Pinnacle Baseball
    	Proset Football
    
    Regards,
    Denny

    
    Show today in bedford, nh
    
    UD high baseball $29/box (not a great price but it was selling well)
    Fleer Ultra Series 1 $80-85/box, series 2 $59/box (could be had for 
    	a little less)
    Fleer football Rypiens $1.50, team leaders $1.50, sensations beckett
    	high for the most part.
    
    If rippin' packs and making sets onself weren't half the fun, you
    can really save money letting other people do it.  Hand collated sets
    just don't move well at shows (or stores).  When there are inserts
    involved to boot, the set prices really get cheap, best examples
    I saw today:
    
    fleer ultra series 1 $20!  Pinnacle series 1 $15!  Ultra series 2 $25
    or 2 sets for $45. 
    
    Leaf series 1 $15/set, $38/box.  Leaf series 2 $20/set, $45/box.
    Gold Leaf series 2 rookies $2-2.50/each.   Gold edition thomas $15,
    gold edition griffey $10 (no thanks).  Good crowd there but many
    dealers still suffering as most people weren't spending much money,
    some decent bargains for the hard driving shopper.
    
    jeff
    

    
    	BJ'S (Westboro, MA) is selling...
    
    	Skybox 92 Baseball Pre-Rookie AAA boxes for $18,
    	there is a limit of one per customer.
    
    	Topps 92 Baseball Factory sets for $24, these are
    	on a separate location from the boxes.

       I saw '92 Topps factory sets at Caldor. Price was around $25. They slao
    had a couple Topps '91 Football factory saets for $12, on the clearance
    table.
                                 Denny

    BG is coming up soon. I'm sure there'll be some decent prices on some
    of this stuff.
    
    John

       Anybody hear about a big show coming up soon in Bolton or Berlin?
    Guy at the Sportscard Connection in Fitchburg told me about it. He
    didn't know the date though.
                                             Denny

    
    Sep 18-20.  '67 Dream Team Reunion Show.
    
    At Nashoba VRVHS in Bolton.
    
    25 players and coaches attending, including Yaz,Doerr,Dick Williams.
    
    -rjk

    Last week I was down the cape at Hyaniss sp/? mall,
    The baseball card shop had hockey, baseball, and
    football cards from the last three years (36 pack boxes)
    for 9.95 per/box.
    I picked up 2 boxes of fleer 90 hockey cards.
    He had fleer football and baseball, score hockey, football and
    baseball, tops hockey, baseball and football,
    donruss baseball.
    I can't remember if he had anymore or the years, (sorry).
    
    Dave

    
    BJ's in Nashua has UpperDeck baseball high number boxes, $24.99 each.
    Was limit one today, but may not be tomorrow, although it may not
    matter because it looked as if they had just 4 cases.
    
    jeff
    

	Re: 310.226

>>>    I picked up 2 boxes of fleer 90 hockey cards.


	Fleer makes hockey cards?

       Thanks Roy, sounds like it might be a madhouse at that show. But I
    gotsta go!
                                  Denny

Any more details on the reunuin show? Who's appearing when? 
Times,costs etc?

thanks
daryll

    RE 310.226,
    
    OOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
    THEY WERE SCORE
    

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling boxes of
    	UD 92 Baseball Hi numbers for $25, there is
    	a limit of 1 per customer, and you have to
    	fill out a pick up slip and take it to the
    	Service Desk.

    
    Picked up 1992 Pacific Football cards last night at the grocery store.
    24 High Gloss Cards, Random inserts are Steve Largent cards, Silver
    foil sets and another different subset. Cards were 24 cards for $1.09
    per pack. Very impressive cards. Opened 12 packs with 2 foil cards,
    1 Largent card and 1 of the other subsets. Only need 39 more to
    complete the set of 330 cards. No repeats..  Got lucky....
    
    John 

    Costco in Nashua had Fleer Ultra II at something slightly less
    then $37 a box. No limit. Thay had about 8 cases.
    
    Steve

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling boxes of
    
    	Ultra Baseball Series II for $ 36.xx
    
    	there is a limit of one per customer per day,
    	and you have to fill out a pick up slip and take
	it to the Service Desk.

    
    No Ultra II at the Nashua BJ's, not sure what happened to it, maybe
    an inside trade or something :-(
    
    They do have Pinnacle 2 for $46.99, Score basaball factory sets
    for $30.99 (i think that was the price).  They had a small amount
    of Leaf Series 2 left yesterday, $37.99/box.
    
    Sam's in Hudson has wild card 1992 NFL football, around $31/box.
    Also Pacific Football for $13 and change.
    
    Costco's supply of ultra 2 was apparently snatched mostly by one
    card store owner, who reportedly plunked down over $9,000 to walk
    out with most all of the skid.  He left around one case that was
    gone by tuesday morning at around 11.  Thanks Steve H for posting
    the info tuesday morning, I had checked there monday but missed it
    since I went in the morning and they put it out in the afternoon.
    I did manage to get the last 3 boxes and only got those because I
    was poking around looking for some and noticed these 3 someone had
    tried to hide behind the marvel cards.  I can't believe that this late
    after series 2 has been out for quite a while, that a dealer would
    really sink $9,000+ into it, probably to make $5/box.  Does anyone know
    a card store owner/dealer by the last name of McGlaughlin?
    
    jeff
    

Costco:

That's really rare.  Generally Costco's stuff is available for quite a
while.  It's the first time I've heard of someone cleaning out a card
offering at Costco.  

The prices at all 3 warehouses (Costco, BJ, Sam's) all seem to be about
the same.  It's nice that the selection seems to be a little different
at each of them.

K.

    
    
    Just got back from BJ's in Westboro, Mass.  Here's what they have in
    stock (All prices + Mass. tax):
    
    $21.99 - Score Baseball, Complete Set (900 cards, I think) + 17 Bonus
    	     Cards (Limit 1, But it's in the store, not behind Srv. Desk)
    
    $46.99 - Score Pinnacle Baseball Series II Wax Box
    	     (Limit 1, But it's in the store, not behind Srv. Desk)
    
    $19.99 - UD Comic IV Basball
    
    $28.99 - Wild Card Football Series I
    
    $24.38 - '91 ProSet Platinum Football (and they have a lot of it)
    
    $20.99 - '92 Fleer Football
    
    $14.99 - '90 Fleer Baseball Factory Set
    
    ?????? - '92 Topps Factory Set (couldn't find a price)
    
    Misc. "re-packaged" boxes on Baseball cards (several different kinds)
    all for around $15/box.
    
    Regards,
    Denny
    

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling boxes of
    
    	Stadium Club Baseball 92 Series 3 for $ 44
    
    	there is a limit of one per customer per day,
    	the boxes are on the shelf. 
    
    	They also have put out more Gold Leaf Series II
    	which they had before.

    
    	Toy Works, in Leominster, is selling Pro Set '90 & '91 series I
    football for $6.99 a box.
    	They also had binder sheets, 25 for $3.99.  
    
    
    	Gary

    Bradlee's at Searstown in Leominster had the Kenner Starting Line-Up
    US Olympic Basketball team set for 50$. Probably not a bad price. It
    comes in a pretty big box by the way.
    
    John

    
    Costco in Nashua has boatloads of Leaf series 2 @ $36.99/box, they
    don't seem to be moving.  Also in the not moving category is packs
    of fleer ultra 2 @ Ames in nashua for $1.49/each.  They had 6-8
    boxes worth.
    
    Bj's is starting to get excess old stuff, the nashua store has 1990
    Donruss boxes for $7.99/each.  Also at Bj's, 1992 Upper Deck football
    for $29.99/box.  Dealers in the area are griping that bj's got UD
    football before any of them.  Factory cost must be up from last
    year, suppose cause they say they're making less this year, they
    are going to charge more for it.  Be interesting to see what it's
    going for at BG.  Payton heroes and special Pro Bowl UV two player
    card inserts, nice color too.  I'll wait...
    
    jeff
    

    Lots of decent prices at the BG show:
    
    1992 UD Football 29$
    All three series of 1992 Topps Stadium Club baseball 40$
    1992 Topps Stadium Club Football 40$
    1991 Topps Stadium Club Hockey 30$
    Marvel Comics Series III 17$
    Alien 3 17$
    Collector's Edge 33$ - very disappointing cards - glad I passed
    SkyBox Impact Football 22$
    OPC 1992 Baseball 17$
    1990 Score Hockey Factory sets 25$
    
    plus lots of stuff priced for 10$ or less which dealers appeared to be
    dumping.
    
    John

    Also found at BG
    
    1992 Fleer Ultra II $42
    1992 Topps FB I and II $14
    1992 Leaf I and II $40
    1991 UD FB update $6
    1991 UD Baseball extended (box set, not 701-800) $8
    
    Found in Burlington Sunday
    1992 UD FB $27.50
    1992 TSC "#1 pick of the 90's cards $60
    1992 UD Morgan/Bench cards $1
    1992 UD Scouting report cards $1.25-$3 (Listach)
    

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) has...
    
    	Upper Deck 92 NFL boxes for $30
	there is a limit of 1 per customer,
    	and the boxes are on the shelf.
    

    
    SAm's Club in Hudson, NH has topps football factory sets for
    $20 and change.  You get all 660 cards plus 20 golds.  not a bad
    deal actually, might make a good xmas gift.  Seems like just a week
    or two since series 2 came out, geez.

    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling...
    
    	Donruss 92 Baseball factory sets ( $ 37 )
    
    	Skybox NFL 92 Impact boxes ( $ 25 )
    
    	And they still have...
    
    		Leaf Gold 92 Baseball boxes
    
		NFL 92 Wild card boxes
    
    		NFL 92 Upper Deck boxes
    		
                Stadium Club 92 Series III Baseball boxes
    
    		plus other stuff that has been there for ages
    		and doesn't sell.
    
    	All of those are on the shelf, 
    	and there is a limit of 1 per customer.
                                 

    Went to the '67 Red Sox Reunion Show tonight. Didn't stay long though
    since it must've been 100 degrees inside. Anyway, there were some de-
    cent bargains:
    
    1992 TSC III 1st Draft Picks Insert Set 30$ for all 3 cards
    1992 Upper Deck Heroes Highlights for 50$ (Roy couldn't get to the
         table fast enough when I told him this)
    1992 Fleer Basketball 24 Card Insert All-Star set 25$
    1992 McDonalds Canadian MVP set (33 cards) 7$
    1991 Upper Deck West Heroes set for 25$ with cover
    
    Payton Heroes cards were 4$ or more. The Pro Bowl cards were 15$ or
    more and one guy wanted 50$ !!! for the checklist card.
    
    Seemed like a lot of the dealers there were from the Sturbridge shows.
    
    Score represenatives were there and they had a display of cards called
    "Select". I asked the rep about them and he said they're coming out in
    December, 330 card set priced between regular Score and Pinnacle. I
    asked him "only one series right ?". He laughed and said it was only
    one series.
    
    John

    Show in Clifton Park NY
    Had 4 ex-Sabres signing Saturday (Playfair, Derrick Smith, Richard
    Martin, mumble...) and Dave Hanson on Sunday. Dave is GM of the
    Capital District Islanders and one of the Hanson brothers from the
    movie Slapshot...
    
    Score Pinnacle 2 Jumbos - $55/box
    Fleer FB jumbo packs $1.75, 3 for $5
    Payton HOF cards $4-$5
    ProBowl cards $10-$25 (Sanders/Thomas)
    1992-93 Hoops cards $22/box
    1992-93 Fleer cards $32/box
    1992 Parkhurst 2 Joe Juneau $2.50  *yeah*
    
    

    	Went to Rotmans yesterday and they had the Classic Basketball
    wax at $34.99, the new 92 Hoops Basketball wax at $18.99 and
    they have a special on the Classic Draft set for 9.95 with some
    plastic sheets to put them in. 
    
    
    Miguel

       At BJs in Salem:
    92 Topps traded sets $10.99
    92 Topps baseball factory set $20.99
    92 Stadium Club FB wax box $43.99
    92 Score FB wax box $16.99
       I think they were all limit 1/per customer.
                                     Denny

    
    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling the following boxes...
    
    	92 Studio	$ 37
    
    	92-93 Skybox
    	NBA Hoops 	  17
    
    	and...
    
    	92 Topps traded   
    	complete sets     11
    

    
    Sam's in Hudson, NH got in more UD football, $29.99/box.  They
    appear to have gotten about 5 cases, so much for it being 'limited'.
    
    Costco in nashua has Hoops series 1 for $16.49/box, Fleer for
    $23.99/box.  Many, many cases of both.
    
    

Costco also had UD Hockey.  But it looks like they got cleaned out of it
very quickly.  The only reason I know it was there is:  a very small empty
spot on the pallet and the price card above that spot.

That's pretty unusual.  Costco doesn't usually get drained so quickly.
(Do they order more than the other warehouse places or do they just not
carry the stuff that's REALLY in demand?)

~K.

    Saw the following at BJ's in Westboro, MA:
    
    92 TSC Football Series 2   $ 43.99
    
    92 TSC Hockey Series 1     $ 43.99
    
    
    and the same ole stuff...
    
    dan

    
    	New at BJ's (Westboro, MA)...
    
    
    
    		Roy Karlson...   (Surprise !!)
    
    		that's right, I met Roy at BJ's today,
    		he said he was feeling pretty good,
    		very relaxed, and enjoying his free
    		time.  He also said he was planning
    		to go to the Shriners next week-end.
    		                              

    At BJ's - Westboro
    Topps Stadium Club hockey.  $43+
    
    At Sam's - Westboro
    UD Hockey - $29
    Topps Stadium Club football Jumbo packs... 1 Member's choice/Pack
    $68/box
    

>    At BJ's - Westboro
>    Topps Stadium Club hockey.  $43+

Hmmm...  BJ's in Auburn had the new TSC hockey at 41+ the other day.  Spags 
has them at 48+.  These both seem high to me, is the set larger than last years?
I picked up last years TSC hockey at Rotman's for 33+/box.

Spags also has regular Topps hockey at $14.99/box.

Dan

    UD FB II was $37/box...
    
    Anyone know what the Magic insert card in Skybox is worth?  It's not
    listed.  I saw it one place for $20 and another for $75...

    Went to a very small show yesterday (maybe 10 dealers). They had
    
    UD Minor League Baseball 24$ a box
    UD FB Series II 28$ a box
    Topps Basketball Series I sets 7$
    Topps Stadium Club Basketball 40$ a box
    Topps Stadium Club Hockey II 35$ a box
    Topps Stadium Club FB Sets (I & II) 50$
    
    John

The BJ's in Salem, NH has Upper Deck hockey cards, $29.99 a box. Don't know
how many they have, or how long they will last. Limit one per customer.

alan

    
    Just to emphasize the shear amount of baseball Upper Deck produced in
    1992, Sam's in hudson, nh now has the following just in:
    
    	UD Baseball low number jumbos (with homerun heroes)
    	UD Baseball high number jumbos (with scouting reports)
    	
    Your choice $28.89 a box.  Can you say dump?
    

    
    BJ's in nashua got in Ultra Hockey today, $43.99/box, tax free.
    There is a one box limit today, however, you can walk out to your
    car and back as many times as you want, buying one box each trip.
    Silly, either they should make it one box or let you buy all you
    want in one shot.  Anyway, they apparently got 7 cases, 2 of which
    had sold by 1pm today.
    
    jeff
    

    BJ's in Nashua had Score Select $29.99 a box yesterday. It didn't
    seem to be flying off the shelf though. They also had Upperdeck
    Minor League Baseball $24.99 (Costco has had these at the same
    price for a couple of weeks, they still have some).
    
    Steve

The BJ's in Salem, NH is sold out of the Upper Deck Hockey. The still have
some Stadium Club Hockey, which are selling at $43.99 a box.

alan

    UD Hoop - at show in Albany $32/box
    

    
    
    	BJ's (Westboro, MA) has boxes of Topps 93 Baseball 
    	for $17/box, there is a limit of one per customer.
    

    BJ's in Nashua has Fleer II Basketball $24.99. Limit one per
    customer.
    
    Jeff Tancill tried to send you mail but DDIF wasn't accepting it.
    
    Steve

    For those of you looking for Hank Aaron Cover cards, there's an ad
    in the latest issue of SCD (dated 26-FEB-1993), p78 for them.  
    
    	'91 Upper Deck Aaron w/header (10 cards)   $ 2.50
    
    Meyer Brothers Inc
    
    dan

    I went to the Royal Plaza Trade Center show in Marlboro last night.
    Stadium Club Basketball Series II was going for 80$  and  there was
    lots of it.  Topps Series II Basketball was going for 30$. I picked
    up a series II set for 8$. 1993 Pinnacle Baseball was going for 50$
    and there was a lot of that also. 1992 Stadium Dome Sets (Jack Mur-
    phy Stadium) were going for 37$. Upper Deck High # Hockey was going
    for 45$ a box. Not many dealers had them.  These boxes also include
    low #'s and the packs that Steve Hayes opened seemed to have 6 high
    number cards  per  pack. The Gordie Howe Hockey Heroes  are  pretty
    nice though.
    
    I picked up a box of Pro Set Football  1992  Series I for 6$. There
    were also some  other  wax box blowout prices. I also picked up 250
    of those hard plastic top loaders for 10$. They usually come in the
    packs of 25 for 2-3$.
    
    Overall the show  wasn't  too  bad, but not as good as Wilmington or
    BG.  Plus they didn't  let  anyone  in  until 5:25 so I froze my wax
    packs off standing in line over an hour.  People were getting pretty
    upset about the show not opening on time.
    
    John

    
    Went to Westboro, Mass. this morning looking for Topps Stadium Club
    Basketball, Series II.  Here's my results:
    
    	- BJs - opened at 10 a.m.  24 boxes (2 cases) gone by 10:10 a.m.
    
    	- Sam's - Service desk person said "cases" all gone by 10:15 a.m.
    
    Don't bother going to Westboro...
    
    BTW,  Does anyone know where I can get one box of this stuff for
    something reasonable ($50-55/box)??  Any SCD ads w/prices??
        
    Regards,
    Denny

    Well knowing Topps and how the Shaq is so hot right now, they'll flood
    the market with this stuff. I can't imagine them not taking advantage.
    
    John

    Costco in Nashua had Parkhurst Series I Hockey last night $29.99/box.
    
    Steve

    
    BJ's (Westboro, Mass.) has UD High # hockey for 29.95/box
    
    BTW, has anyone seen this year's Score Pinnancle Baseball at any of hte
    warehouse stores?
    
    Guy at BJ's said it's not on their "coming in" list.
    
    If any one sees it, please post it here in the notes conference.
    
    Regards,
    

    
    Haven't seen any Pinnacle (yet) at the wharehouses up here in southern
    nh, but Costco always seems to get Pinnacle.
    
    Found some Topps regular basketball series 2 jumbos (5 golds) at the
    local Hallmark store this evening.  They got in 2 boxes and put in a
    limit of 5 per customer per day.  Five was enough for me anyway, it was
    nice paying $1.99 suggested retail for these (compared to $4 or $5 at
    a store or show).
    
    jeff
    

    
    
    BJs has Pinnacle baseball series 1 for $45.99/box, it's the second
    day so it's on the shelf by the books with no limit (at least 15-20
    boxes left).
    
    Costco has both UD series 1 baseball retail and high # hockey.
    Basbeall is $29.99/box, hockey $29.49/box  They still had many
    cases of both left with the hockey going faster than the baseball.
    
    jeff    
    

    
    Went to Costco in nashua this a.m. and an assistant mgr there said
    they will no longer be receiving any cards (a week and half before
    they were expecting 10 cases of UD basketball series 2 :-(
    
    When asked why they won't be getting any more cards the Costco
    employee responded "because it's too much of a hassle".  
    
    Take this with a grain of salt because when they first opened they
    told everyone they would never get any of the so called "limited"
    cards like UD, Stadium Club, Ultra, etc.  and then of course they
    proceeded to get all of these.  Now apparently they won't get 
    be getting anything new, something that delighted a local card
    shop owner who was also there this morning (sigh).
    
    jeff
    
    
    

    Sam's club has Classic Minor League Hockey Jumbo boxes for $36 (or
    thereabout's).  They also have TSC BB boxes for $29.95.
    
    Dan
    

    The Paper Store in Maynard has 92 Leaf Baseball Series II for
    50 cents a pack, or 3 for $1.25.  Yesterday they had two boxes
    plus left

    		
        I received on the mail a postcard from Rotman's where they 
    	advertise 5 different "deal" packages, all related to Sports
    	cards, which I don't do anymore, so I'm posting it here just
    	in case anyone is interested
    
    	1.- 	92-93 Ultra Bsktbl II
    		92 Fleer Ultra BB I
    		93 Score Pinnacle BB Cello
    		93 Disney Aladdin
    		92 Donruss Rookies
    	1 box of each for $191
    
    	2.- 	92-93 Topps Bsktbl Wax II
    		93 Fleer Ultra BB I
    		93 Score BB
    		93 Score Pinnacle Cello I
    		93 Score Pinnacle BB I
    	1 box of each for $181
    
    	3.- 	92-93 Topps BK Rak II
    		93 Classic Minor League Gold
    		93 UD BB I Retail
    		92 Ultra Hockey I
    		92 Ultra BK I
    	1 box of each for $199
    
    	4.- 	92-93 Stadium BK II
    		92 Stadium BK I
    		93 Fleer BB II
		93 Score BB
    		93 Donruss BB I
    		93 Pinnacle BB Cello I
    	1 box of each for $270
    
    	5.- 	92-93 Topps BK Set
    		93 Topps Dome Set
    		93 Topps BB Set
    		93 Fleer Ultra BB I
		93 Leaf BB I
    	1 box of each for $187
    
	I tried to copy it exactly as it was on the postcard, but remember
    	we are humans, so check with Rotman's to make sure you are getting
    	exactly what you think you are getting. Tel. (508)791-6710
    
    	For those who don't know me, I have no interest nor am I connected
    	with Rotmans in any way shape or form, I'm just doing this as a
    	service to my fellow noters.
    
    			Juan
    	

    Looks like Rotmans is beginning to feel the same "downer" some fellow
    noters are feeling.
    
    Regards,
    

    Newsshop - Pheasant Lane Mall had UD Series II Hoop jumbos, for
    $2.49/pack.
    
    

    they were all gone by the time I got there at 12:45

    I witnessed dealers at their worst Friday. I stopped at Costco.
    Dealers were coming out with cases of UpperDeck Series II Basketball.
    One dealer I saw had 10 cases. Many had 4-6 cases each. Their were
    dealers yelling at each other. Some had asked Costco to refund their
    membership fee because they didn't get any of them. It was a zoo.
    The manager again was saying he wasn't going to deal in cards anymore.
    
    I did get a dealer to sell me 2 boxes for $40 each (heck he paid
    $29.99, he made a quick $20). One dealer then asked the same guy if he
    could buy the rest for $60 each box. The second dealer was quite upset
    that I was able to get the 2 for such a "steal". The dealer I bought
    from got in his car and drove away.
    
    Oh well. I got 7 or 8 All-Rookie cards including a Shaq. I also got a
    Bird header and 7 other Birds. I got 3 of each series II Shaq and
    4 #1 Shaqs. Wish I could see the second dealer and tell him what I
    got.
    
    Unbelievable! Glad I witnessed it. It really opened my eyes to the
    lower side of dealers.
    
    Steve

    At a show in (that's right..) Albany...
    
    Got 2 Shaq all-division cards for $35.  That was the main thing I was
    looking for, only other thing I noticed was Leaf baseball was going
    for $75/box.
    
    Went Friday night to the Springfield show.  Got Nate Archibald's
    autograph.  Nice guy.
    
    The show itself was ok, but not as big as I thought it would be... 
    Good if you were looking for older stuff and baseball.  Expected more
    basketball stuff than was there...
    
    -Walt
    

    Things at the COSTCO in Worcester were a little under control. They
    removed the cards of UPPERDECK basketBAll from the floor and, 
    put them in the cage and made slips for them. There was a limit of 2 boxes 
    per person and they writing down your name and membership number to keep 
    track. I did notice that the frist person on the list was able to pick up 
    8 boxes. I know of a dealer who got his brother, sister, father-in-law
    and then himself each pick up 2 boxes then wanting to sell them to me 
    for $2 a pack.
    I got 2 boxes and wasn't to happy, got no shaq #1 and got repeats
    on the Rookie Standouts. Only got 1 bird header and 2 other cards,
    2 shaq all stars and 2 shaq regular cards and a whole bunch of series I
    cards, no to good for opening two boxes.
    Hey Steve if you want to trade one of your #1 shaqs let me know.
    
    Miguel

    
    Was at Dan's Sport Card shop in Northboro, Mass. yesterday.  He's
    having a 50% off sale on all of his "chase" and higher priced Sports 
    cards. Also, he has a 25% off sale on all his Comic "chase" cards.
    
    I think he does this monthly, but I'm not a regualar at this shop so
    I'm not sure.
    
    Regards,
    Denny
    

    Was in a CVS in Clinton on Saturday; All their wax and rack packs were
    on sale.  Got some UD series II baseball (reg $1.25) for $.79 each.
    Prices varied depending on manufacturer (ex:  Score reg $.69, on 
    sale for $.45; Donruss Triple Play reg $.59, on sale for $.39).
    
    CVS in Cape Cod also had the sale.  I'm pretty sure the sale is still 
    going on at all CVS stores.
    
    Dan

    
    John's SportsCards in Tynsboro got Hoops series 1 basketball
    yesterday and Classic basketball and Leaf hockey today.  Also
    Pinnacle football today.  (508) 649-4826, across from Skate 3
    just into MA down DW highway from the Pheasant Lane mall.  Tell
    him you're from DEC, he gives pretty decent deals.  (I'm not
    getting anything from putting in a plug for him, except perhaps
    continued consideration for good deals on boxes here and there).
    
    I got a box of Hoops, will start a note later on what's in the
    Hoops and how close to a 300 card set I get from 1 box.
    
    jeff
    

    
    John's got in Classic 4-sport and Topps Basketball series 1
    today.  He also has Score Select Update & Traded as well as
    Classic Futures basketball (tall cards).  1994 Donruss baseball too.
    
    jeff