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    Sent a job to print yeserday, allin1 said it was queued, but was it on
    the printer when I walked around? I should be so lucky. 
    Even though the printer was idle.
    
    About an hour ago, I get a completion message. So it took 20 hours for
    a document about 4 blocks in size, to get printed off.
    
    <raising hand> I think we have a problem here. 
    
    

Chances are that the queue was stopped.  I believe there are circumstances in
which if there is a problem with the printer, the queue may stop (stall?) and it
does not resume automatically when the printer problem is fixed - IS have to
manually restart the queue ...

This seems to be the likely scenario here ...

T

Just like we're now getting *paper* memos
handed out in Viables, (for subjects that aren't even relevant 
to us as it happens) because we don't have Exchange yet 
in some areas and mails sent from Exchange take 3 days 
to get through to non-exchange accounts and the attachments
get removed by the routers. 

Why building mails can't just be sent to the usual building 
distribution list until the new cock-up, sorry system, is 
working I can't imagine. 




TECHNOLOGY! (a la brass eye)

Is this good science or bad science ?

As Ian just said - "Microsoft Exchange - Why?"

    Anyone else besides me having trouble with lumpy response on All-in-1
    on WOTVAX lately ?
    
    Hit return to read the next screen of a mail, then wait tens of
    seconds. Editing is sometimes nearly impossible as I can type (badly)
    faster than the system responds (and I am a SLOW typist). It is
    getting very frustrating.
    
    The route I use to get there is
    PC-> ACB -> LAT -> BBPBV1 -> (DECnet or TELNET) -> (WOTVAX or Warbly)
    
    The PC->ACB -> BBPBV1 link is just fine. The problem is downstream. The
    problem is apparently independent of whether I use SET HOST (DECnet) or
    TELNET, and independent of whether I connect to WOTVAX or WARBLY.
    
    Anyone else in BBP having problems ? Any North UK folks outside BBP
    having problems ? Are we looking at BBP->REO congestion, or a problem
    on WARBLY/WOTVAX ? Should I just give up until I get EXCHANGEd ?
    
    There are no errors or unusual counters on BBPBV1 except the response
    timeouts in the following:
    
    Node Counters as of 16-MAY-1997 11:00:10
    
    Remote node =   44.807 (WARBLY)
    
            1619  Seconds since last zeroed
           34850  Bytes received
            5812  Bytes sent
             669  Messages received
             326  Messages sent
               0  Connects received
               1  Connects sent 		(SET H WARBLY to read mail)
               6  Response timeouts		!!!!!!!
               0  Received connect resource errors
    
    After reading a bit more mail, with yet another dropout:
    
            2484  Seconds since last zeroed
           89201  Bytes received
            9808  Bytes sent
             969  Messages received
             492  Messages sent
               0  Connects received
               2  Connects sent
               7  Response timeouts
               0  Received connect resource errors
    
    regards
    john
    

    Maybe people are busy moving their files to Exchange before their
    accounts vanish (I know I spent all Monday afternoon doing this).
    
    Jc
    

;-2

What did the helpdesk say when you logged a call?

If other people are having a similar problem with regards to response, then I
hope a few calls would have been logged by now.

K.R.

    From Leeds there are noticeable pauses when using KEA to telnet to
    WOTVAX.
    
    It hadn't occurred to me to log a call, it's been like it ever since we
    stopped using LAT and DECnet.
    
    Andrew

    Response through RAS has been terrible all day today.
    
    Cheers, Laurie.

Why are you sending mails from ALL-IN-1 to Exchange. A more effecient 
way is to use the ALL-IN-1 MAPI DLL in Windows 95.

    (I assume that .231 is in reference to my comment earlier today)
    
    I did indeed use the ALL-in-1 MAPI to do the work.  It still took all
    afternoon.
    
    Jc
    

    Andrew,
    
    I came back off Telnet after a few days; the throughput with Zmodem was
    almost halved by using TELNET rather than LAT, and as I use Zmodem
    rather a lot between BBPBV1 and home, I changed back to LAT and got a
    substantial saving in phone charges for the company.
    
    Even so, I'm under the impression that All-in-1 is a lot worse this
    week than a while ago. Even now, at after 5:35 on a Friday, when all
    sensible people have logged off for the day, All-in-1 is still almost
    unusable for editing, and pauses while reading.
    
    I'll log a call on Monday.
    
    regards
    john
    
    BBPBV1 Node Counters as of 16-MAY-1997 17:40:03
    
    Remote node =   44.807 (WARBLY)
    
           11213  Seconds since last zeroed
          200545  Bytes received
           27518  Bytes sent
            2378  Messages received
            1198  Messages sent
               0  Connects received
               3  Connects sent
              20  Response timeouts			<<<<<<<<<<!!!!
               0  Received connect resource errors
    

John,

i just tried RASing into REO, but gave up because after about 10 minutes 
Exchange hadn't even started.

I RASed into OLO and this worked better (my original Exchange session 
actually re-activated).

Methinks that there are serious network problems (or congestion) ahappening 
at the moment, indeed if ALL-IN-1 character I/O is slow then things must be 
REALLY bad!

mb

    >>...but gave up because after about 10 minutes 
    
    Today Exchange hasn't been running since about 10:00......
    
    And we sell "high availability solutions" to customers!
    
    Jc
    

ALl depends which exchange server you are on. Mine has
been OK all day.

    And your point is...
    
    C'mon, this is dreadful, and directly impacting my work. Again.
    
    Cheers, Laurie.

    REOEXC2 was down yesterday afternoon too (it's REOEXC2 which has been
    down today).
    
    For updates on server problems etc, follow CCS UK's web page. It's
    quite informative and regularly updated:
    
    http://www-ccs.reo.dec.com/ccs_europe/Support/Infoboards/UK.htm
    
    Latest update: 15:11pm exchange server REOEXC2 available again. Problem
    resolved at 14:50pm.
    
    Jane.

    re network  problems
    
    The REO (RAS) to UVO is just as slow.  Most of the echos keep up with
    my slow typing, but try a few cursor movememnts in an editor and it is
    like playing the Golden Shot.
    
    Jc
    

     so these servers aren't clusters then ?
    
    Graham %^;
    

I had a mail which was addressed to me and delivered to someone in 
Valbonne. 

This is not good enough.

Alan

    re .226
    
    I finally logged a call this A.M. having been busy with other stuff in
    between. 
    
    DECnet continues to show response timeouts (i.e. lost data which had to
    be retransmitted thus making things even worse) at an appalling rate.
    UCX would too if I knew how to find the equivalent counter.
    
    I've lost a complete edit session as well a few minutes ago, "path to
    partner lost".
    
    I will await a call from Reading I.S.
    
    regards
    john