Conference quark::mennotes

    Thank you for sharing that with us.
    				John
    

.... shaving cream
     Be nice and clean
     Shave every day and you'll always look keen

	- Benny Bell

    I don't mind it.
    
    Lorna
    

    RE:0

>           I HATE SHAVING!

     Then just limit it to your face and stop shaving your armpits and
     legs.;)

     Jim

    consider yourself lucky...women gotta shave more than men ya know..

    No we don't. We "don't gotta" shave at all. (Neither, of course, do
    men...)
    
    -b

  .0> I HATE SHAVING!

      Hey, don't get into a lather over it...

    
    I have soft, smooth skin
    and soft, smooth leg hair.
    
    so?
    
    -Jody
    

    .0
    
    Then don't.
    
    sheesh....
    
    Daniel

    Nothing like a clean shaven women I always say.;)

       re .0:
       
       Then stop playing college hoops for UNLV.
       
       --Mr Topaz

    I stopped hating shaving when I bought a Norelco Tripleheader.
    
    The Armani still stings, though.
    
    - craig
    

    
    I hate shaving...
    
                     ...my tongue.  8)
    

    
    
    I also have a difficult time shaving, so am always looking for
    something "new".  I was reading "Men's Guide to Fitness" on the plane
    the other day and came upon a suggestion.  Wash your face, and then
    coat it with a thin layer of oil (I used olive oil), and then stand in
    the hot shower for several minutes.  Get out of the show, wipe off the
    excess oil, apply shaving cream, and go for it -- the whiskers came off
    like butter.  Of course, you have to make sure you wash the oil off
    well after the shave.
    
        GJD

    RE:  .17
    
    If you are inclined to dry skin, consider leaving a thin layer of olive
    oil on your skin after you're done.  You can blot it with a tissue to
    keep it from getting it on your shirt.  Olive oil is the best oil for
    the skin imho.
    
    If you have oily skin, you might have pimple problems with this
    technique.  If you remove all the oil by washing with soap, it can dry
    out and irritate the skin, trapping your facial oil and causing
    breakouts.  If you don't remove the oil, you'll just add to your
    natural problem.  
    
    If your oily skin is not in the beard area, you can probably use this
    technique and remove all or most oil when you're done.  If you start to
    break out even a little bit, stop right away.  
    
    Laura
    
    It's not fair to have to worry about pimples and wrinkles at the same
    time!!
    

 If you shave after showering, your beard will be softer and will be easier to
shave. This can be helpful for men with tough beards but sensitive skin.

    
    I shave while I shower using the shampoo from my hair as lather, sure
    saves time.

    
    I use the shower to both clean up and WAKE up, to that end, I stay
    clear of sharp objects until AFTER my coffee. 8)
    
    Oooo that's a nasty scar senior~...
    

    I always shave in the shower.
    
    Lorna
    

    I have a trouble spot right behind the jawhinge that I can never get
    shaved close. Any suggestions?

    - jim

    Re .23
    
    > trouble spot right behind the jawhinge
    
    This is a *serious* suggestion.  Invest in, and learn to use, a good
    cutthroat (straightedge) razor.  (I wear a beard, but I shave my neck,
    including beind the jaw hinge.)  Kept sharp and used properly, a good
    cutthroat will shave you cleaner than any other instrument ever
    invented, hence the term "barbershop close."  And it will get those
    trouble spots.  The downside is that you *will* nick yourself for the
    first few weeks.
    
    The best source I know for high-quality shaving supplies (cutthroats,
    brushes, mug soaps, and so on) is this one, where I get mine:
    
    George F. Trumper, Perfumer
    9 Curzon Street
    Mayfair
    London W1
    England
    
    They take mail orders.  Their stuff is not cheap - in 1985 I paid �30
    for my razor, �17 for a strop, and another �25 for a pure badger brush. 
    I haven't regretted my purchase for a moment, at least not since about
    1986...  :-)
    
    You can also find this kind of stuff in major metropolitan areas in the
    US; I believe Trumper now has a shop in New York, and some cutlery shops
    in malls have these items, although the ones I've seen are inferior to
    Trumper's merchandise.
    
    -dick

    re:.17
    
    On the advice of a sage (my dad), I started applying Lubriderm to
    my face after washing it, and before putting on the shaving gel.
    
    It worked like a CHARM!  No more shaving the night before to avoid
    bleeding all over my shirt collars.  No more nicks.  No more razor
    burn.
    
    When I hop in the shower, I first wash my face and hair.  Then I apply
    the lotion, then wash the rest of my bod, then apply the gel and shave 
    with a mirror I keep IN the shower.  It's like a dream come true!

.23> I have a trouble spot right behind the jawhinge that I can never get
.23> shaved close. Any suggestions?
    
    I put my chin down and then drag my fingers over the skin towards my
    mouth and just ahead of the razor.  One swipe usually takes it all off.

    
    dry shaving whilst shoving off down I280 in the morning sure
    saves time. 
    
    i often slide into the passing lane ahead of a bimah as i put
    the finishing touch on my liphairs.

    Real men dry-shave with a straight razor.

    Bubba

    re.28
    REAL MEN shave in the shower with an electric razor %^}

    The simple reply to the base note is "so stop".
    
    I have worn a beard for over fifteen years, have shaved it off twice in
    that time and regretted it both times.
    
    andy

    I last shaved probably in June of 1972.
    This was just after I left the army.
    People were always asking me about 3pm if I had shaved
    this morning and so I thought the best thing to do was not to
    bother.  Definitely a wise choice.
    
    /s/ Jim Williams

    re .29
    
    Gaaaaad, I almost peed my pants from laughing when I read that!  :-)

    Some electric� razors are shower-safe; Braun makes one.
    
    �: rechargeable, battery-operated, but still electric.

Re: .33

Yep, Panasonic has one too.  Indeed, this is one of the latest "trends" in
electric razors.

			Steve

These "shower safe" razors.  Do you really plug them in while you use them ?
Or are they precharged.


I shave in shower too.  After washing entire bod, which gives face time to
soften up, I just make regular soap lather in my hands and apply to face and
shave in shower.  However, I try to use the kind of shower that lets me
lower the volume while shaving so I don't feel to guilty about wasting water.

When I go to Kripalu (Yoga Health Center, wonderful place, across street from
Tanglewood), I sit in sauna for 5 minutes until I'm sweating profusely, then
I shave in there without any additives to my face, not even water! (just my
own sweat).  Works wonderfully.


/Eric

Re: .35

They are rechargeable; you don't use them while they are plugged in.  I
imagine they use an induction loop to transfer power from the charger so
as to avoid the need for exposed terminals.  Most electric toothbrushes work
this way.

				Steve

    try the Clinique counter at Filenes.. they have a mens skin care line..
    

    Last time I was in NYC I went to Macy's Clinique counter and got the
    whole shaving regimen.  It was no better than Edge Gel, took twice as
    long to shave, and about 10 times as much.

As I said once, long ago in the previous version of mennotes.  I can't grow
a beard worthy of the name (to busy using my hormones for more important 
things ;-) because it is patchy and light.  

Two solutions.  One is a shaving oil I found in Peoria (I'll enter the info
on it later when I remember to bring it in) that is marvelous.  Hardly ever 
nick myself, no irritation (and I have such a baby face), and when I am done
my face is as smooth as the classic "baby's butt"  (you listening Michelle 8-).

Solution number two - electrolysis - it does work but for a face like mine  it 
will take about 200 hours of treatment.  That is expensive, time consuming and
a little painful, but, I still want to follow through as I can because I REALLY,
REALLY hate to shave.

80)

Though I just noticed that they put my name on the back of the samples
they send me to pass along so maybe, if enough people say they were referred
by Jim Campbell, nah...

Here is the ordering info:

1 oz. (1 year supply, really) ( ) His  ( ) Hers (they smell different) $9.95

1/4 oz. $2.95  (State His or Hers)

add $1.50 for shipping and handling

The accept checks and Visa or Masterdebt.

Mail to Total Solutions, Inc.
	4018 N. University Ave.
	Peoria, IL 61614

Or call  (309)-682-0303

Or fax   (309)-682-0333

Let me know if you like it, I am curious if it is as good for others as
it is for me.

80)

           Do you have any samples?
           Is there a money back guarantee?
           
           Steve
           
>Let me know if you like it, I am curious if it is as good for others as
>it is for me.

           What makes it different form plain old baby oil or vaseline or
           even olive oil?
           

>What makes it different form plain old baby oil or vaseline or even olive oil?

I dunno, I like the mentholated smell and it works better than anything I
ever tried before.  I guess it is kinda like when I am looking for something,
when I find it I quit looking.

>Do you have any samples?
>Is there a money back guarantee?

I did, but I gave them away.
There might be, but at the price this stuff cost you can probably afford 
the gamble.

I've used disposable rasors for some time now - they seem to last longer than
real blades for some reason.

I found a type that I like. They are the BIC Metal rasor. Anyway - I've been
looking for more and can't find them anywhere. I'm using BIC twin blades at the
moment but they are not as good.

So has anyone seen them in the Eastern MA area? I think I got them at CVS but
I'm not sure. Anyway I haven't seen them in any of the CVS stores I've been in
recently.

Peter.

    Seems like a gratuitous chunk of land-fill filler, or are the
    handles stamped recyclable?