Title: | What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'? |
Notice: | Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS |
Moderator: | ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI |
Created: | Fri May 09 1986 |
Last Modified: | Wed Jun 26 1996 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1327 |
Total number of notes: | 28298 |
This one's prompted by some of the replies to the note next door (614 "A Time to Dream"). A number of people said their dream was to be some sort of performing craftsperson and it set me to thinking and remembering. . . When I was 13, one afternoon I wandered down to the gym where they were having a sock hop (amazing how a two-word phrase can date one. . .) Anyway, as I turned went through the doors I saw these two kids, playing electric guitar - just the two of them, with these little bitty amps playing some tunes I kind of recognized from the radio (obviously, minus drums, bass, keyboards, horns, etc.); in those days, you didn't even have to sing. Well, it took about 1.5 New York picoseconds to "know" (like, down to the sub-atomic level, man) that I'd found my life's dream, that I'd found "me". And, despite the fact that my folks were less than thrilled, it did turn out to be "the real thing". After I picked up my first guitar, I never again wanted to be a fireman, jet pilot, Superman, etc. Within a year, I was in my first band and my dream began coming true. Within two years, I began to discover some of the reasons for the saying "Be careful what you wish for. . .it may come true". This isn't to say I regret the realizing of the dream - I never have and, hopefully, never will - but, in reading the previous note, I was struck by the thought that I'm surely not the only one who's had a "dream come true" and found out that the reality has often been very different that what we expected (sometimes more, sometimes less). Thoughts? Reflections? Tangents? (Baubles, bangles, bright shiny beads. . .?) Steve
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615.1 | WILVAX::BOURQUE | luv_my_drums|B|L|A|C|K|M|I|R|A|G|E| | Thu Nov 03 1988 07:53 | 17 | |
My dream is almost complete, My dream was to become a Rock Star,at age 11 I told my parents I want a drum Set, My folks laughed, My grandmother said Why? my smart reply "Why not"..Then she thought "Oh little Jimmy in the school band,Drum/Bugel etc. well she bought me a old Ludwig kit, 5 pieces, in JR, High I was in the school band Tapping on a snare I met my friend Rick in 7th grade his dream was just as mine become a performer,He played guitar at the time.We formed a little group at age 12,needless to say the School band was "history" no way was I gonna only play a snare. To this day my band w/Rick is going pretty strong,Dec. we are going in the studio to record our 3rd Demo.."whole new Band" Ive played in front of many crowds,We have gotton many Applauses,,,DREAMS_DO_BECOME_REALITY,,Im just waiting for Madison Square Garden.. Jim | |||||
615.2 | CADSE::GLIDEWELL | Wow! It's The Abyss! | Thu Nov 03 1988 22:35 | 37 | |
Steve, Interesting Question :) Your note made me reach back 20 years -- yes, I understand 'sock-hop' :) -- and remember some dreams. In '53 or '54 The Saturday Evening Post published a sci-fi story ... all the grass on Earth turned purple and died. The beautiful print and the wild, romantic illustration made me -- insignificant way-too-humble-me -- say "I would like to be a writer." A thought so hot I could barely touch it. Fifteen years later I sold my first piece ... seeing the check in the envelope was electrocution by pleasure. Now I expect the check. Default. No longer a dream. But being able to feel this way -- of course I can -- is a wonderful, solid feeling. A number of dreams and impossibilites have come true. Looking back, my life has been wonderfuly enriched by every dream-come-true that meant overcoming grotesque insecurities and fears. Now. Sigh. I peer around inside and don't find many dreams bumping around. Bunches of wants and druthers and likes, but no overwhelming passions. Don't know why. I find some druthers that could be passions, but they're not. Feels to me like I am not willing to commit myself to anything that falls in the dream category. Have felt like this for a few years. Would like to hear the thoughts of anyone who went through this cycle and got back to making and grabbing dreams. Also, Steve, would like to hear what it was about the rock band experience that made you discover: > "Be careful what you wish for. . .it may come true". Meigs | |||||
615.3 | our noise filters get old and crusted | YODA::BARANSKI | Down with Official Reality! | Thu Nov 03 1988 23:42 | 33 |
Could it be that as we grow older and wiser that we learn too full well what things lie in the realms of dreams outside the province of reality? That dreams cost... in reality, and in terms of other dreams... Now we are too firmly rooted in reality... We know too much what lies between our reality, and our dreams. The only decision we can make is in the here and now, whether to have milk in our coffee or not, rather then taking those steps toward a dream. 'There's just one thing that we should have told you before you started, Milo..' 'What was that?' 'Rescueing the Princesses of Rhyme and Reason was impossible.' 'WHAT! Why didn't you tell me before?!' 'If we'd told you, you never would have attempted it now then, would you have?' [The Phantom Tollbooth] Then there are the 'noise filters' in our minds that seperate reality from fantasy... Living too long in reality can clog your noise filters, giving you too keen a sense of what is reality and what is dreams. Every once in a while we need to do something to shake up and loosen our noise filters... The Solution... Read Children's Books! :-) Jim. | |||||
615.4 | Dream or Nightmare?? | ANT::BUSHEE | Living on Blues Power | Fri Nov 04 1988 08:25 | 6 |
Do you mean in real life? I've never thought that any dreams ever came true, except in fairy tales. Now, on the other hand, nightmares always seem to come true. :^) | |||||
615.5 | I've been there! | CIMNET::LUISI | Fri Nov 04 1988 10:30 | 23 | |
Yeah! I was one of those kids up on stage once. But I sat behind a set of Gretch drums and later was able to afford Zilgen cymbals. It started out singing 5 part harmony in the alley ways to get the echo to help mix the voices better. Then we added music and it was there. I was a drummer is a real rock band. Remember "THe Brooklyn Bridge" Johnny Maesto who shortened his name from Maestrogiovanni went all the way with it. But my dream got cut short. VIET NAM But it was great while it lasted. Now I play the percussion in my head and just tap on these keys. The dream is still a dream. And now.. when I see and hear some real tight music I just put myself on stage and it feels just fine cuz.. I've been there. I get the rush that I not sure other people know what I mean unless you've been there. No regrets. Bill | |||||
615.6 | When you give them up.... | SUPER::REGNELL | Smile!--Payback is a MOTHER! | Fri Nov 04 1988 15:49 | 28 |
Dreams...what a thought.... I have a thought about dreams....a bitter sweet one. There are very few people around who can stand to let someone they love have real *dreams*...I think. *Real* dreams occupy your mind and your soul and drain the energy from you until you get just a *little* closer and then start in again with a new horizen. There is precious little time left for husbands or kids or PTA's or laundry...just time for pounding away at whatever it is you *want*....for me it was singing....being in front of the backup band and making people laugh and cry....heavy stuff. After 16 years of giving my dream up....I still sometimes wonder if I might have....? Then I go cuddle up to my small person who has eternity looking out of his eyes and it hurts a bit less....but it still hurts..especially when you hear somebody like Steve play his guitar...yeah...it hurts still.... Melinda | |||||
615.7 | Anything is possible | MCIS2::AKINS | Big Bad Billy.....Sweet William now. | Sat Nov 05 1988 01:44 | 12 |
You might feel my attitude is from youthful optimism but, I believe that any *dream* is possible as long as you strive for that dream. For example, I wrote in the dream note that I wanted to do a laser light show for Pink Floyd....I now have a double major in Optics and Studio Art and have started a project with my school to put on my first laser light show. It may not be Pink Floyd but I'm not going to give up until I'm completely satisfied. If my dreams change before I reach them, I'll just persue them with the same outlook..... Bill | |||||
615.8 | SSDEVO::ATKINSON | NC2693V | Mon Nov 07 1988 12:51 | 25 | |
I have to agree with .7 that anything is possible. You might have to make a lot of sacrifices, but if the desire is strong enough, your dreams certainly can become a reality. Seems that a lot of people get into a rut once they get a little older and established in some particular lifestyle. I often hear people say that they would like to be doing something else with their lives, but they just can't manage to change. They can always come up with an excuse why they can't achieve their dream. If you want to follow a dream, that means change, and change is uncomfortable for most people. It's easier to just continue to do what you are in the habit of doing, rather than make the effort to try something else. If you really want to do something, go for it. Find a way to accomplish that goal. Develop a plan and make it work! You will probably need to sacrifice time and income to achieve the dream, therefore you must decide what's really important in your life. Better to try and fail than regret never having tried at all! -Wil | |||||
615.9 | things are rarely what they seem | NOETIC::KOLBE | The dilettante debutante | Thu Nov 10 1988 13:12 | 8 |
I've had few "dreams" come true. They are never quite what you expect. I do believe people should go for the dream just to know whether they really would have been happier. The hard part is realising what you might have to give up to get that dream. I believe there is a saying that tells it all - "be careful what you ask for, you may get it". liesl | |||||
615.10 | And the dream goes on! | CUPMK::SLOANE | Tempus is fugiting | Wed Nov 16 1988 14:52 | 7 |
I've been married to the most marvelous woman in the world for 27 years. 25 of those years have been fantastic. 2 of them haven't been so great - and it wasn't the same 2 years. Bruce | |||||
615.11 | Rock dreams, chapter II and some. . . | HANDY::MALLETT | Split Decision | Fri Nov 18 1988 13:47 | 121 |
Well, to answer Meigs (.2) and pick up where I left off in .0, there I was, all of 13 years old, dumbstruck in the middle of my first true revelation. Now, since I was at "that" age there *were* a few other things rattling around in the back of my brain. I mean, let's face it, I hadn't gone down to the sock hop to hear Bobby Millen and Joel Covington play their Fender Musicmaster guitars. . .I'd gone down because my dreams before that magic moment had been of Bonnie Buzzard and Anne Sawyer. So, it was only natural that approximately a half a second after I'd realized what my dream was, I made the "logical" connection that realizing that dream was my best possibility for getting girls. And, believe me, having virtually no other possibilities, this was indeed potent stuff. And thus, I wandered home that day with my 13-year-old head full of dreams. The "discussion" at supper that evening should have been my first clue that dreams ain't always what they're made out to be. Son: I wanna play the guitar. Can I have one? An electric? Dad: No way! Son: But I. . . Dad: No!!! You've got a basement full of electric trains that you haven't touched for months. We're not going out and buying a bunch of expensive guitars so you can just let them sit around and gather dust. Son: But. . . Dad: No "buts" about it, buster; that's it! End of report! Next to my earlier unrequited love for Miss Carter, my first grade teacher, this was the crusher of all bummers of my young life. It's no doubt a testament to the strength of my dream (and my ability to whine) that, in this instance, Dad proved wrong. But, he was at least learning: the next Christmas morning, instead of a shiny new Fender Musicmaster electric guitar, I found a beat up old acoustic Kay guitar with only five strings (which were put on around 1948); it nonetheless took only a few seconds to fall in love with it. I quickly found six new strings and my friend Nicky Wheeler: the latter gave me my first keys to the universe (how to play the G, Em, C and D chords) and the former gave me another clue that things were not all gonna work out as easily as the dream had made it seem. . .pushing those strings down put these little grooves in my fingers and made them hurt like hell! To make matters worse, instead of hearing great sounds like the ones coming from Nicky's guitar, mine was making sounds that were a cross between stepping on a tin can and scratching a screen door with a fork. Now at 13 I may not have known much, but I was sure that the dream wasn't supposed to go like this. Still, I was a persistent little bast, uh, boy, and by the time I turned 14, I had callouses on my fingers and could actually play some things. Better than that, I knew that I'd get my Musicmaster because Dad obviously put a high premium on "sticking to it", even if "it" was not on the approved list. Besides, I was sneaky too and I played what I figured to be my ace in the hole - how could Dad, the former college (Hahvahd, no less) football captain say "no" to anything when I (all 4' 10" of me) went out for football. Son: Hey Dad, the guys want me in the band. . .I really need an electric. . . Dad: We'll think about it Hoo Ha! I knew I'd won and it just about made all the bruises of the gridiron worth it; hell, for a Musicmaster, I woulda gone through much worse. Perhaps I should have because next Christmas found me with the world's cheapest, ugliest, stupidest-looking Supro electric guitar. Now, Supro was to electric guitars what the PDP-6 was to DEC, but what the hey, now I could be IN THE BAND. And that meant that shortly thereafter, Anne, Bonnie, and probably a whole harem of others would be "mine" on account of I would be undeniably "cool". I should have taken our first "gig" as an omen. Instead of being "cool" I was an unmitigated dork - in an effort to calm my nervousness, I started chewing a piece of gum just before we went on and so there I was, stomping my foot, strumming the strings, and chomping my gum, all in perfect 4/4 unison with the music. To this day, when I run into Bobby Millen, he still gives me grief about it; if he wasn't a cop. . . But being young, resilient, and stupid, I pressed on and, in that second year I started to become aware of some of the more major disparities between the dream and reality. Because it was in that second year that Anne said she'd go with me to the dance - she was *real* impressed that we were playing there (and hadn't seen me at the first gig, either). What began as a dream come true ended up as my first high school heartbreak. Oh, we went to the dance alright, but even before the first record was spun, while we were setting up, it became clear that all was not right. Anne was getting pissed off that I was spending so much time with the band; before the end of the evening, Anne was dancing *real* close with John Ellis and I was just part of the entertainment. It took only a few more similar experiences to cement the knowledge: being a "rock star" is a great way to attract 'em for a little while, but as soon as the girls learned that you're gonna spend a *lot* of time practicing (alone and with the band) and are not gonna be around much on Fridays and Saturday nights, the young rocker starts to hear things like ". . .it's either me or the band. . .take your pick". With every song he plays the young rocker knows more than ever that he's meant to play the music; with every lost girlfriend, he learns and relearns the price. And past the point of "easy come, easy go" youth, when the not-quite-as-young rocker begins to long for someone in his life beyond tonight and tomorrow morning, the truth of the dream begins to sit kind of hard. . . Steve | |||||
615.12 | DEMING::CLARK | what's the ugliest aprt of your body? | Fri Nov 18 1988 14:18 | 3 | |
re .11 that was excellent, Steve | |||||
615.13 | AXEL::FOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Fri Nov 18 1988 16:26 | 9 | |
RE: .11 You should submit that to the writers of the Wonder Years for a future episode! :-) I like it! mike | |||||
615.14 | HANDY::MALLETT | Split Decision | Sun Nov 20 1988 14:28 | 9 | |
re: the last couple. . . Thanx. . .(sheepish foot-shuffling, etc.) btw, just to demonstrate how truly out-of-it I am, what is/are the "Wonder Years"? From your description, it sounds like a tv show (or commercial) ala "Stand by Me". . .? Steve | |||||
615.15 | NICLUS::FOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Mon Nov 21 1988 22:26 | 10 | |
RE: .14 VERY good! It's a TV show in a VERY similar vein to "Stand By Me". I find it hilarious cuz it's about a 12 year old kid in '69. (I was 8 but that's close enough) I can relate to ALOT of it! :-) mike Wed. @9pm I think.. On ABC. | |||||
615.16 | Hmmmm.... | SUPER::REGNELL | Smile!--Payback is a MOTHER! | Wed Nov 23 1988 11:09 | 6 |
>.11 Made laugh and cry....good stuff. Melinda | |||||
615.17 | encore! | CSC32::DELKER | Mon Nov 28 1988 18:31 | 6 | |
re .11 Steve, if you aren't a professional writer, you *should* be! That was excellent. I read through the whole thing, and enjoyed it. Paula |