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524.1 | The intent is more important then the source | CSC32::D_SMITH | | Thu Jun 16 1988 13:58 | 17 |
| My ex spouse was indeed having an affair (more like affairs)
and I quess had been having them off and on for several years.
Deep inside I quess I knew what was going on but didn't realy want
to admit it to myself. When ever I would try to discuss the matter
with her, she would basicaly say well yes, but it was along time
ago, it will never happen again, etc. Eventualy one of her co workers
called me and basicaly told me that she was having an affair with
another co worker. It was hard to believe (actualy hard to believe,
only because I didn't want to believe it was happening again).
To directly answer the question, yes I would want to know, and
if that information came from a coworker then such is the same.
I think the only stipulation I would say is that I would want to
her it from someone that cared (hated to see another person
treated/lied to in that manner) rather then from someone that had
the intent of hurting someone, like the other persons spouse. It
would make it a little easier to accept/believe because there would
not be that elimate of hatred involved.
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524.2 | From one thats been there | BISTRO::WOOD | Mad Dogs and.... | Fri Jun 17 1988 16:44 | 10 |
| I thought that I would want too... Then I found out... Then I wished I had
never asked the question.
Ignorance is bliss. Now when involved in a relationship, I expect fidelity
if that is not forthcoming I would at leats expect that the affair was
kept quiet enough that I did not find out.
From one that's once burnt twice shy.
Andy
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524.3 | OPTIONS | CADSE::GLIDEWELL | Peel me a grape, Tarzan | Fri Jun 17 1988 20:09 | 15 |
| I'd want to know. Then I would want to fix things up or split.
Easy for me to say, while sitting here at the terminal.
Interesting reading: OPTIONS, by Marcia Seligson
Seligson spent a year researching and interviewing people involved in
marriages with three or more partners. Most of the multi-marriages
came about because a spouse was having an affair and did not want to
end the marriage or the affair.
The book also says a lot about people's emotional response to a partner's
affair. (The Number One response is "the unknown lover is a God, while I
myself am a dull, ugly peasant.")
On a scale of 1-10, this books get a 12. Meigs
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524.4 | To Know or Not to Know, That is the question. | CSC32::D_SMITH | | Sat Jun 18 1988 15:31 | 7 |
| In reference to 524.2
If an affair was occuring why would you not want to know about it.
I very well understand the pain associated with finding out the
truth about an affair, But is not the pain of the uncertainty, and
the pain of the lie just additional pain to be added to the pain
you will recieve when you eventualy find out, and indeed eventualy
you will find out.
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524.5 | lose a friend? | EAGLE1::EGGERS | Tom, 293-5358, VAX Architecture | Sun Jun 19 1988 01:09 | 7 |
| Suppose a friend of yours knows about an affair of your spouse
but doesn't feel (s)he should interfere by telling you.
You finally find out about the affair. How do you feel toward that
friend when you find out (s)he has known all along?
(The friend is not the correspondant.)
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524.7 | | CALLME::MR_TOPAZ | | Mon Jun 20 1988 09:18 | 10 |
| It's like an insect in the food at a restaurant.
If there's just one fly that managed to find its way into the
salad and everything else about the restaurant is fine, then I'd
be better off not knowing about and noticing the little bugger.
On the other hand, if unwelcome intruders kept showing up on a
routine basis, I'd just as soon know about it right away in order
to avoid such an unhealthy and unappetizing place.
--Mr Topaz
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524.9 | Don't tell me! | SAGE::MESSINO | alias: Emery Boddy | Mon Jun 20 1988 16:02 | 10 |
| A indiscretion in my mind is not grounds for divorce. They indicate
a lapse in judgement or some other problem which is not being addressed
in a positive way for your partner. Multiple indiscretions can
indicate a serious problem and should be confronted.
Now so much for my logical mind. For the emotional side.
My philosophy is simple here; Do not tell me unless you are using
it to end the relationship. Otherwise tell me what problem
is making you unhappy. I do not want to hear about the indiscretion.
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524.10 | why are you telling me? | TLE::RANDALL | I feel a novel coming on | Tue Jun 21 1988 13:20 | 33 |
| My first reaction to being told my husband is having an affair is
suspicion of the teller; the only time someone "told" me, she had
made up an absolute lie to get back at me because I was happily
married and her husband had just left her.
I might give a close friend the benefit of the doubt to the extent
I would assume their intentions were good, but the odds that a
friend actually KNOWS an affair is taking place are small. They
may have seen suspicious behavior, but they aren't likely to have
any proof. In a somewhat open marriage such as ours, this is a
problem. We both have close friends of the opposite sex; you can
often find me having lunch or after-work drinks with some of these
friends. We both make independent business trips. Often
appearances are compromising. We have to trust each other's
judgement.
We explicitly and consciously decided that our marriage vows did
not include a promise of absolute sexual fidelity. Too much of
life cannot be predicted or controlled. People do fall in love
with two people at once or have wild affairs at conventions. We
felt it was better not to promise ahead of time how we were going
to feel when these or other accidents of life befell us. Love is
an emotion and emotions change, come and go. Marriage is a
commitment to partnership that says that whatever emotional
changes we go through, we will still put this relationship first.
So the answer is, No, I would not want to be told. If I couldn't
tell from my husband's behavior, then it wouldn't matter, and if
his behavior was obvious but I wasn't willing to admit it, then
forcing me to face it sooner would not be doing me a favor. I'll
see it when I'm ready to face it.
--bonnie
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524.11 | re .10: I agree | ROCHE::HUXTABLE | | Thu Jun 23 1988 17:13 | 1 |
| I wish I could've said that so well! :)
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524.12 | Is there another like you around? | SAGE::MESSINO | alias: Emery Boddy | Fri Jun 24 1988 17:31 | 3 |
| .10
Ditto!!!!
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524.13 | A different bird I guess I am? | SUPER::REGNELL | Smile!--Payback is a MOTHER! | Wed Jun 29 1988 17:20 | 38 |
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I am awfully new at this...so bear with me, but this
note is of very high interest to me.
I have been married for over 16 years to the same
wonderful/aggrevating/stimulating/disgusting???
person. We have a committment to work things out,
to work together, to play together.
He did *not* purchase my body. I did *not* purchase
his. I have no interest in whom (s?) he sleeps with
unless he brings home some unwanted disease. I trust
him implecitily *not* to do that. He has never shown
any interest in cataloging with whom I may or may
not have slept.
To paraphrase a friend of mine...
If my spouse/so plays chess with someone; does that
threaten my marriage? If my spouse/so has coffee
with someone, does that threaten my marriage. If
my spouse should sleep with someone? I trust he
has as good taste now as when he first slept with
me over 20 years ago.
(end paraphrase)
I do *not* try to force my friends and acquaintances
to accept this outlook on life, but it *is* how I/we
operate.
To directly answer the question, no I would not want
to know....the only reason I can think of to *tell*
someone is to hurt them. I try not to do that anymore.
A newcomer....%>
Mel
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524.14 | | CGVAX2::MCKINNON_D | | Wed Jul 06 1988 19:47 | 9 |
| I would not want to know. I would prefer just letting things go
on as they are. If we are happy and no dirt is brought into the
house then let it be. Once I found out then I don't know how I would
act. One can never tell what's going to happen. One day at a time
folks.
Re -1 Ditto
Dennis
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524.15 | Hurt | RUTLND::KUPTON | I can row a boat, Canoe?? | Thu Jul 07 1988 14:13 | 14 |
| As I've read this note it's become apparent to me that I really
wouldn't want to know. I don't think I could like her again if she
felt that she had to go to someone else without discussing what
was lacking in OUR relationship. I would hope after 14 years of
marriage that she could say that there was something that I could
no longer provide and that she needed that something from another
man (woman?). To just go off and have an affair for the sake of
having the somewhat same thing in a different package (bigger,smaller,
prettier,softer,firmer,older,younger) doesn't really make much sense.
If it's because there is no love left, then an end is indeed called
for.
Ken
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524.16 | affairs | TPVAX3::BLANCHETTE | | Mon Sep 12 1988 14:47 | 3 |
| What if one has no choice but to know?? When spouse tells you she
had an affair. How would one react?
thanx in advance..
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524.18 | after the dr...the councelors | WMOIS::B_REINKE | As true as water, as true as light | Mon Sep 12 1988 15:07 | 5 |
| Try and find out why it happened, why she told you, and what needs
to be done to heal/improve your relationship - assuming that is
what you want to do.
B
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524.19 | From personal experience... | BSS::VANFLEET | 6 Impossible Things Before Breakfast | Mon Sep 12 1988 17:51 | 16 |
| Having had this happen I agree with the need for
counseling. When my ex told me he was having
affairs it was a ploy to get me to leave the
marriage so he wouldn't have to take the respon-
sibility of walking out. When a spouse does
something like that ("telling all") generally
there's a reason. Either they're looking for
jealousy (he/she really does care) or they are
dissatisfied with the relationship and are looking
for a way to make waves in order to expose the
problems. Either way you probably need counseling
to figure out what's wrong and if you want to heal
the relationship or abandon it.
Nanci
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524.20 | seek help | TPVAX1::WHITEWAY | | Thu Sep 22 1988 08:41 | 16 |
| RE 16
If you care, then work it out. Seek professional help, both
for yourself, and individually.
If you feel you can not accept what happened, then sit back
and give serious thought about the future. If one is not willing
to deal with it, then you will have to accept the consequences.
I guess I am just saying, Be very careful. It is very hard to
deal with something of this sort, and I do not believe anyone has
the answers. It takes time, caring, and communicating. It involse
emotions, so there will be pain, hurt, heartache. Do'nt do it on
your own. Seek help and work it out.
Good luck.......
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