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| 163.2 | Sounds like propaganda to me | CEO03::REDDEN | Lancin' a windmill | Tue Dec 02 1986 07:17 | 21 |
| MOST REASONABLE SCENARIOS (WHATEVER THAT MEANS) FOR NUCLEAR WAR
INVOLVE CASUALTY RATES (WORLDWIDE) OF WELL UNDER 50% AS A DIRECT
RESULT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS. I BELIEVE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF DEATH
WILL BE LOSS OF THE WILL TO LIVE IN THE RESULTING DEGRADED ECONOMIC
SYSTEM. I FIND THE SCENARIO YOU DESCRIBE TO BE UNLIKELY, GIVEN
THAT 25%, AT A MINIMUM, OF THE WORLDS POPULATION WILL SURVIVE. IN
GENERAL, CULTURES SEEMS TO SURVIVE CASUALTY RATES UP TO 90% WITHOUT
LOSS OF CULTURAL IDENTITY. (THIS IS BASED ON DATA FROM BOTH NATURAL
AND MANMADE DISASTERS). I AM TIRED OF MOVIES THAT USE EXTREME
SCENARIOS TO CONFUSE PEOPLE ABOUT THE SURVIVABILITY OF NUCLEAR WAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MOVIE THAT USED A MORE REALISTIC SET OF
ASSUMPTIONS AND ASKED THE QUESTION - "GIVEN THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC
SYSTEM OF 1865 AS A RESTART, HOW CAN WE REBUILD OUR WORLD IN A WAY
THAT WILL NOT *NEED* WAR".
FOR ANYONE INTERESTED, THE GOVERNMENT BOOK STORE IN BOSTON SELLS
SEVERAL BOOKS THAT CONTAIN THE TECHNICAL DATA NECESSARY TO MAKE
YOUR OWN ASSESSMENT OF THE EFFECTS OF NUCLEAR WAR ON YOU, AT LEAST
FROM A WEAPONS PERSPECTIVE. I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY GOV'T PUBLICATIONS
ON THE SOCIO-CULTURAL IMPACT OF NUCLEAR WAR, BUT I AM NOT SURE THAT
THE TYPE OF WEAPONS EFFECTS THE SOCIO-CULTURAL IMPACT OF WAR, ANYWAY.
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| 163.3 | | DELNI::FOLEY | Rebel without a clue | Tue Dec 02 1986 09:20 | 8 |
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Please, please, please.. Unlock the CAPS key! To us noters,
all caps is equivalent to shouting. It's very difficult to read.
Thank you.
mike
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| 163.5 | Mad Max Lives! | HPSCAD::DITOMMASO | he fiddles and diddles | Mon Dec 08 1986 13:42 | 19 |
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I think the best representation of life after a holocaust is the
Mad Max series of movies, in this series, the world takes years
to change into a somewhat primitive state, yet some technology
remains. (That technology wich is necessary for life).
Just think what the world would be like without any law and order.
Only the strong will survive (or those with the best weapons),
that is also represented in this movie. Those that retained
knowledge from the past become important people, however if they
are not strong and skilled with a weapon they become important
slaves. If they are strong and skilled with a weapon and very
intellegent (with technological info.) they become leaders.
I can see this happening, look at the styles from Mad Max. You
see them on the street now. Look at how violent our society is
now, can you see how it would be without any law and order.
Paul
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| 163.6 | my $00.02 | ARGUS::COOK | Dreadful Mourning | Tue Dec 09 1986 03:01 | 6 |
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re: .5
I agree.
PC
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| 163.7 | | DEBET::FOLEY | Rebel without a clue | Thu Dec 11 1986 09:54 | 14 |
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Maaaaaxxxx!!!! I'm a fuel-injected suicide machine!
You can saw thru the chain in 10 minutes.. You can saw thru
your leg in 5.. It's your choice...
You alright >name<? Nothing a year in the tropics couldn't
fix.
Sorry everyone.. I think I lost it.. I'm a fan of the Mad Max
movies... :-)
mike
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| 163.8 | A fragile and complex structure | FOGGYR::MURPHY | down the foggy ruins of time... | Fri Dec 12 1986 18:10 | 25 |
| .0 poses an interesting question, although I'm not sure how much it
has to do with human relations. Anyhow...
I believe that a worldwide holocaust (from whatever source) would very
likely destroy civilization as we know it in industrialized societies
for a long time. The technology we have today has been built on
generations of progress, and could not be duplicated from scratch (i.e.
from a point where all industry had been wiped out) very quickly even
if the knowledge of how to do it survived.
The social climate is, perhaps, a more relevant question. I expect
the survivors would be in a permanent state of trauma for perhaps hundreds
of years. Consider that the world went through the "dark ages" -- a
period where civilization regressed significantly -- without any catalyst
as obvious as a nuclear holocaust. The reasons behind it are complex
and not fully understood, but in any case, it lasted hundreds of years.
One thing I consider unrealistic about the film (as described, I haven't
seen it) is the lack of emotion when the woman dies. I believe people
have related emotionally to one another for thousands if not millions
of years, and would continue to do so, perhaps more strongly, in a
situation such as that of the movie. Some things don't have to be learned
from books.
Dan
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