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Conference oass::racers

Title:Racers and Racing
Notice:As long as it's not NASCAR or F1 or Drags...
Moderator:RHETT::BURDEN_D
Created:Tue Aug 08 1995
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:391
Total number of notes:4486

344.0. "IT Classes " by PATE::PROTEUS () Wed Mar 09 1994 16:23

    A while ago (mid 70's) I used to run a car in the SCCA at the regional
    level.  What drove me out was the cost as "production" class cars 
    got further from being "productions" cars.
    Anyway after a long absence I went to Lime Rock to see a race and
    was pleased to see the ITA/B/C etc classes, since they were a lot like
    what "production" used to be. 
    Have been thinking about getting back behind the wheel, and was
    wondering if anyone had an opinions about these classes.  They appeal
    to me because they seem a reasonable priced way to get some lap time. 
    Opinions?
    thanks,
    al
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344.1IT opinionSOLVIT::PLATTThu Mar 10 1994 15:598
    From the perspective of someone who crews on a "production" car, IT is
    one of the best bangs for the buck.  The fields for all classes
    (ITA/B/C/S) are always full. The racing is usually by far the best of
    the day.  
    
    My $.02 anyway
    
    
344.2Less filling, tastes O.K.CRLRFR::BLUNTVentre � terreThu Mar 10 1994 23:5213

    And, it seems more reasonable that you can run some preparation on your
    entry.  While I'm not naive enough to buy the "Showroom Stock" bunk,
    my recollection of IT provided some level of tuning without getting into
    the really big $.  It seemed to allow more exceptions which in turn allowed
    more people to tinker with their car and still be competitive.

    Sheesh, I'm beginning to SOUND like I belong to SCCA...  All I do is run
    the timer...

Bob

344.3showroom stock is bunk?STARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullMon Mar 14 1994 12:548
>              <<< Note 997.2 by CRLRFR::BLUNT "Ventre � terre" >>>
    
>    entry.  While I'm not naive enough to buy the "Showroom Stock" bunk,


    I am naive enough. What's bunk about it? (Just curious, not arguing...)
    
    Doug.
344.4STDBKR::Burden_dSynchromesh gearboxes are for wimpsMon Mar 14 1994 14:5517
>    I am naive enough. What's bunk about it? (Just curious, not arguing...)
 
Well, it's just that 'Showroom Stock' cars spend quite a bit of time in 
garages getting 'prepped' for the races.  The idea that you take a real 
showroom stock car, bolt in a cage, some belts and go racing are not reality. 

Maybe they are for the regional level, but not if you plan to win and 
certainly not at the National level.  Then again, there always seem to be a 
good number of top finishers being DQ'd for rules violations so maybe the 
good guys DO win once in awhile.   

I remember some engine builders comments a few years ago saying it cost more 
money to 'build' a Showroom Stock engine than it did to build an out-n-out 
race engine for the same car because it's so much harder to hide the 
modification in the SS engine.

Dave
344.5Bring yer wallet, cause they don't take visa...VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyTue Mar 15 1994 00:0312
    That's money.  It messes up anything.  If I have it, I'll outspend
    you and blow your doors off whether it be mopeds or Corvettes.
    
    I find this type of racing is expensive also, in that if you win
    you get torn down to find out if your legal.  More spending.
    I fixed this situation by watching these folks zoom around on the
    tee-vee.  That's cheap, except for the beer.
    
    It cost's ~$35,000 to campaign a "stock" drag car.  Ho Ho, I'll stick
    with the brackets.
    
    MadMike
344.6Cubic $CRLRFR::BLUNTVentre � terreTue Mar 15 1994 00:1213

    The "showroom stockers" based in Huntsville had a saying.  It wasn't the
    tear-down that you had to beat, it was the well-armed competitors you had
    to outrun.  Esp., if you happened to pass impound and it was known that
    you had a cheater.  FWIW, we had one guy that slalomed a GLH-S up to
    the nationals.  Won with a cheater computer...  Must be that "If I don't
    get caught or they don't know better" mentality.

    I guess it helps to have a buddy in the factory where Dodge blasts all
    their chips (it was here in Huntsville, don't know now).

Bob