Conference oass::racers

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                 Message from Ron Glover Corporate Personnel     OCT 1990
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    does this mean the accusations of halitosis and other derogatory
    comments about certain public figures in the sport is now banned?
    
    or does the special case provision for public figures in libel and
    slander cases apply here too?  (I hope so!)

    .re .1
    
    Does that mean we cannot cast opinions on whether the McLaren is a
    better chassis than Ferrari, Goodyear better than Pirelli?  I suppose
    since most of these type of companies are not marketing partners for
    Digital that they are fair game.
    
    Bob J.

    	Now that the riff-raff have been thrown out this is getting 
    pretty dull.  Could we perhaps get the F1 stuff from CARSUK 
    copied over here on a daily basis?
    						John
    

Or better yet, you could all pitch in to help me build up my motor, and
sponsor me for a full season or rallying next year!  In return, I would
paint all your names on the sides of the car (location determined by
size of donation :-), and promise to write (hopefully) entertaining
articles about my experiences!

Kidding aside for the moment, I do think it would be fair to say I am
driving one of the highest-placing American rally cars in the US and
Canada today, unless you count Eagle Talons.  Of course, we are becoming
a rare breed.

Enough boasting, back to our regularly scheduled silence :-)

Carl

    	Can I have my name on the bottom.  It should get the most TV
    coverage that way.
    					John :-)
    

Sure, John!  Can I talk you into another $10 to print it twice on the
bottom, so no matter which way it rolls, your name is rightside up?

Carl

P.S.  I re-read last reply, I meant to say "highest-finishing American-make
      (ie. Dodge) rally car".

>    	Can I have my name on the bottom.  It should get the most TV
>    coverage that way.

After my accident at Lime Rock two years ago, a photographer sent me
pictures of my car on The Hook. My wife liked one so much she took it
to work. 

Since I didn't have my car number or sponsorship on the bottom, he sent
me a picture of someone elses car on the hook too. They all look pretty
similar from the bottom, to an amateur ;-).

I've painted the bottom white since then!

Glenn

    This conference needs a new home.  If anyone is willing to
    take this over, please let me know.
    
    	Mike B.

Folks

  If a new home isn't found for this conference before April 30th, it will
be deleted.  I nolonger control the machine that it resides on and I have 
been requested to get rid of this conference.  


					Mike

    Well folks, a new home has been found for the conference.  The
    conference is moving to Seattle sometime in the next couple of weeks.
    
    More news when it happens.
    
    
    			Mike
    

    It is with very mixed feelings that I must announce the need to end my
    tenure as moderator of this conference.
    
    I am forced to do so because of the imminent end of my employment
    tenure with Digital.  Yes, I have been caught in the current TFSO
    round.  
    
    I have no regrets, the handwriting on the wall was clear for long
    enough and I did nothing to forestall it.  I view the future as
    presenting an array of interesting opportunities, I'm only sorry that
    my success and Digital's will no longer lie along the same path.  Well,
    actually there is one regret:  I'm sorry that my termination package is
    not lucrative enough to support my transition to full-time professional
    racing driver...	:-)
    
    In addition to saying "goodbye" to my friends here, I want to suggest
    that anyone interested in signing up to help with moderating the
    conference should volunteer to Mike Brouillette.  Mike has been the
    other moderator of RACERS for awhile now, and I'm leaving it up to him
    to decide about replacing me - but I'm sure knowing anyone that may be
    interested will be helpful to him in considering that issue.  Send mail
    to Mike at NHASAD:: Brouillette if you're interested...
    
    
    Goodbye, and thanks!
    
    --bruce mcculley

Please update the node database on the system where this notes file lives.

  I want to upgrade this notes file to the V2.x Notes format sometime
  today.  If I manage to find a time when no one is accessing the file I
  will swap in a temporary conf in its place and convert the real file. 
  This shouldn't cause too much confusion.
  
  Dave (mod)

  The conversion has been done.  If you experience any problems with the
  conference, please let me know.
  
  Thanks
  Dave (mod)

  note 962 has been broken into two -
  
  962.0 has been moved to 931.90 and answered
  962.1 has been appended to new topic 963 (which I may renumber back to
  962) with a new topic title.
  
  Dave (mod)

I moved 1015 (requesting info on Loudon) to the end of 504 which is the NHIS
topic.  I also updated the title to 504 to include the words Loudon and Bryar
for us old timers.....

Dave (mod)

The system this conf is on (OASS) will be going away in a month or so.  I 
plan to clean up the conf (renumber the notes because there are lots of 
open gaps between notes) and move it to VMSNET.  I'll announce the move 
before I do it, hopefully within a week or so.

Dave (mod)

  The cleanup is basically done.  The new layout looks something like this:
  
  Notes		Desc
  1-8		Misc, conf notices
  9-19		Rallying (2 empty)
  20-29		Formula 1 (4 empty)
  30-38		NASCAR (5 empty - should we remove these??)
  39-50		Indy/CART (2 empty)
  51-69		(empty, aimed at Indy/Cart expansion)
  70-98		Racing personalities, Obits (5 empty)
  99		Racing on TV (hopefully an easy number to remember)
  100-199	Other series schedules and results (77 empty)
  200-up	Everything else
  
  We now have 335 topics, but about 100 are blank.
  
  I'm not going to enforce placing new topics in the 'proper' place, but
  will probably move them when I get around to it.
  
  Dave (mod)

>  30-38		NASCAR (5 empty - should we remove these??)

I don't see why not.

Okay, someone second that motion and they'll be deleted....

Dave

    YES, PLEASE DELETE THEM.  AND WHILE YER AT IT HOW ABOUT ANY NOTE PRIOR
    TO 1993?
    
    MIKE

Okay, the NASCAR stuff is gone and I've consolidated the pointers to other
conferences, internet mailing lists and WWW sites into a new note 6.

I would rather keep the older notes around.  One of the previous mods did a
wholesale deletion of older notes and and that caused all the big gaps. 
Besides, the disk space is cheap.

Dave

Sorry for RACERS being off the air for the last few days.  The NOTES object on
the OASS cluster was blown away for some reason and I just recreated it.

I don't 'own' the cluster so I had to go begging for privs....:-)

Dave

I changed the title of 363 (discussing the Road Atlanta IMSA race and crashes)
to 'IMSA Notes - 1995'.

Dave

About 1.5 weeks ago RACERS was moved from one disk to another when OASS was
downsized from a cluster to a single node.  Somehow the file got corrupted and
notes could not be written to it.  I've used PAN to recreate the file and
hopefully this version should work.

I think some of the newer notes have been lost, but I don't have the time to
track them down.  The old file will probably hang around as RACERS_V1.NOTE for a
few weeks in case you want to peruse it.

Dave