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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

68.0. "Stock Splits" by SALEM::NEAULT () Tue Feb 18 1992 11:01

    Can anyone tell me why a Company would want to SPLIT THEIR STOCK?
    What are the advantages to a STOCK SPLIT for the Company?
    Under what cercumstances would they SPLIT?
    
    Any comment welcome.
    
    Roger
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68.1a few reasonsISLNDS::HUTNICKTue Feb 18 1992 12:428
    Several (of many, I'm sure) reasons a company would split their stock is to
    -make the stock more affordable to investors
    -psychologically lower the down-side risk of loss. A $100 per share
     stock can fall a lot more than a $50 or $25 per share stock.
    -And when a stock is too high priced, usually only big traders and
    	investment institutions can buy them, thus not allowing the little
         guy to invest. This will allow a few big investors to 'control'
         the company when it comes to stockholders meetings and votings.
68.2To make it more attractiveLEDS::VESESKISTue Feb 18 1992 12:467
    
    	From what I understand it is more psychological than anything else.
    People would rather pay $20/share than $100/share for instance.  Therefore
    when a company sees it share price gets too high it splits it to make
    it more attractive to investors.  It does not increase/decrease the
    value to the existing investors by doing this since it is still worth
    the same. 
68.3What's a little money between friends...BASVAX::GREENLAWI used to be an ASSET, now I'm a ResourceTue Feb 18 1992 15:387
RE: .2

Unless you are Warren Buffet whose Berkshire Hathaway(?) stock is currently
selling for $8750 a share.  But heh, when you make money grow like he does,
you are much less of a slave to the market :-)

Lee G.
68.4MUDHWK::LAWLERNot turning 39...Wed Feb 19 1992 07:428
    
    
      It's kind of like "Bingo"  where you can split and play 2 cards
    at once...  :^)
    
    
    						-al
    
68.5A1VAX::GRIFFINWed Feb 19 1992 07:4711
    Oh, Berkshire's fallen on hard time have they? I think there was a
    period when their per share price was in the mid-five-figures!

    ---

    Stock "splits" go in both directions of course. When your corporate
    stock gets down with the rabble in the single digit price range, you
    might want to do a 2 for 5 "reverse split" to raise the per share price
    and make your stock holders think they've got a better issue. Snob
    appeal you know - to H___ with earnings or anything so pedestrian!
    
68.6NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Feb 19 1992 10:093
The "more affordable" argument only makes sense if you assume that lots of
small investors don't want to deal in odd lots.  Otherwise, what's the
advantage of 100 shares at $20 over 20 shares at $100?
68.7remember the transaction costsCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtWed Feb 19 1992 12:427
.6> small investors don't want to deal in odd lots.  Otherwise, what's the
>   advantage of 100 shares at $20 over 20 shares at $100?

Broker commissions are generally much higher for odd lots.

I'll agree with several previous, that the effect of these splits are mostly
psychological.
68.8NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Feb 19 1992 15:053
Commissions on odd lots are higher, but *much* higher?  I don't think the
difference is enough to account for the price increase that usually
accompanies a stock split.
68.9Don't forget the extra 1/4 or 1/2 pointSMAUG::GARRODAn Englishman's mind works best when it is almost too lateWed Feb 19 1992 20:025
    In addition the broker often shaves a 1/4 or 1/2 point (documented so it is
    not a scam) over the actual price if you trade an odd lot. Read the
    fine print.
    
    Dave
68.10NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Feb 20 1992 14:222
Of course, we're talking about high-priced stocks, so the point differential
doesn't amount to a lot.
68.11Depende if 1/4 of a point exists }8-)}STAR::PARKETrue Engineers Combat ObfuscationTue Mar 03 1992 22:526
    A "point" of Berkshire is, I believe, $50.  There are no reported "1/4"
    points of BH.
    
    Also, a round lot of Berkshire is 10 shares.  I made a nice uptick from
    it last January (91) with 2 shares.
    
68.12I want IBM to split 3 for 1 IMHO.CSCMA::BALICHThu Nov 14 1996 08:5114
68.13PCBUOA::KRATZThu Nov 14 1996 12:512
68.14re .12TLE::RICEThu Nov 14 1996 13:1523
68.152155::michaudJeff Michaud - ObjectBrokerThu Nov 14 1996 17:0416