Conference noted::sf

>Please write a short, polite letter explaining that you've heard that
>there may be a new BATTLESTAR GALACTICA project in the pipeline and
>how you'd love to see BG back on the air with original cast members.
>Please make it look like an independent letter, and not one that just
>a standard letter obviously from an international campaign. 
    
    Is it okay if I write a short, polite letter that says that this is a
    monumentally BAD idea?  The original show was dreck; a revival would
    be worse than dreck, it would be dreck with old fogies in the lead
    roles.  
    
    					andrew

But it would be fun to see them brig back Lorne Greene

    
    I *LOVED* that show!!!  this is great!!
    
    

    
    Oh man . . . a Battlestar Galactica reunion . . . oh man . . .
    
    	This is such a completely weird idea.  I think a series would be as
    abyssimal as the original - but I think a movie would be kinda fun . .
    
    	I still remember being 8 years old, watching the show and thinking
    that the robots ( i forget the names ) with the ping-ponging little red
    scanning light for eyes were the dumbest things.  Is that where
    Knightrider got the idea?  Same quality of show, I think . . .
    
    					-Jim

    
         Hi all,
    
         Well.... The original was pretty campy compared to today's
            standards, but I think if they did it right this time
            it wouldn't be all that bad...
    
         The basic premise was very much a rehash of a common plot
            device, but it all depends on how well it is written,
            how good the actors are, how good the effects are, how
            well the physical universe holds with ours...
    
         If they did it right it would be good...
    
    
                                                             Bye,
                                                              Mike.
    
         P.S. The were called cylons... At the time I thought they looked
              pretty cool, dumb as a rock, but cool looking none the less.
    
         P.P.S I still have the Viper and the Cylon fighter, with firing
               missles no less!!! :^)
    

    
    	I rather they brought back "V" or Alien Nation. 
    
    

I hated that fake dog/robot/thingy.

Some time ago, I came across a script posted in the Star Trek Notes
conference (I think; maybe it was on a bulletin board) which
described how the fleeing BG fleet meets up with the ST:TNG
Enterprise.  Pretty fair treatment of both series, I'd say; plenty of
opportunity for special effects! 

Now THAT I'd love to see!. 


Ian S.

Naw,

Battlestars Galatica and its rag tag fleet meet Darth Vader and the Empirial
fleet...("Come to the dark side Starbuck...") :-)


grins,

clark.

    	BG did have a sequel:  GALACTICA 1980, when the starship crew
    finds Earth in guess which year?  It was even campier and less
    scientific than the original series.  Starbuck made a guest appearance
    in the last episode.  Mercifully G1980 lasted but one season.
    
    	I know there's a '70s revival going on, but this is ridiculous!
    	
    	:^)
    

    What next?  Gil Gerard reprising his role as Buck Rogers, with that
    annoying little robot thing with the horrible voice?
    
    	Buck Rogers, found floating adrift in a cryogenic state, is picked
    up by James T. Kirk in the Starship Enterprise.  They then encounter a
    huge half-destroyed artificial satellite called, quaintly, the 'Death
    Star'.  An immense explosion catapults the Enterprise through space-time
    where they end up at the other end of the Deep Space 9 worm hole. 
    After docking, and meeting with the Jean-Luc and the new Enterprise,
    the whole station is attacked by the fleeing Battlestar Galactica crew,
    believe it a new enemy station.  After their differences are resolved,
    a lone tie-fighter comes through the worm hole carrying Luke S. and
    R2-D2 ( they were caught in the tail end of the explosion at the Death
    Star ).  Just when all the ships are docked at the station, a visting
    ship's officer named Ripley reports an outbreak of a paticular virulent  
    type of alien predator.  Ripley leads an assault team through the station
    with the help of Odo and Starbuck.  Just then, a huge mining ship,
    named Red Dwarf appears from the wormhole, wildly out of control, and
    wipes out the entire station.  End of story. 
               
    			:0)   :-)   - Jim

    
    re buck rogers: that was tweakie (with dr. theopolis around his neck)
    
    whiney dog on BG = muffy
    
    :')
    
    i LIVED for this stuff :').  granted, i think BR blows, BG1980 blows,
    but BG was great!!
    
    this was all the scifi i had to grow up with (salvage 1 was another
    short lived favorite).
    
    - rob
    

The BG beast was MUFFIT and it was a DAGIT not a DOG

    BG was bad science, worse fiction, and truly hideous science fiction.
    
    					andrew

    
    
    
    I liked BG at the time and watched it faithfully, hated BG1980
    (Except the episode with the Cylon that was stranded with Starbuck.
     In which case I loved 80% of that and hated the other 20%)
    
    
    But .6 "V"!???....I'd chew my arm off to getaway from the TV
    
    
    The success/failure of a new series would depend of the writing.
    
                                                             

re:-1 would that be the arm welded to the remote control?? :*) I kind of liked
Starbuck, they could bring him back and dump the rest. liesl

    
    yeah, the 1980 episode with starbuck was one of the best ever
    (especially when he was teaching the cylon to play pyramid :')).
    

    Re .11:
    
    You forgot to put in an appearance of the Doctor in his TARDIS and the
    good ship "Heart o' Gold" with a complete retinue of snide humanoids,
    neurotic cybernetics, and at least one copy of a certain guide book 
    with "DON'T PANIC" written on the cover in large, friendly letters.
    
    Earl Wajenberg
    
    P.S.:  Oh, yeah, and a saucer-shaped craft carrying a nuclear family,
    plus son-in-law-wannabe, inexplicably-unmurdered stowaway, and a robot
    with a tendency to wave its arms and shout "Danger! Danger!" when
    menaced by large quantities of papier mache.

    
    ...And, "With your host, Truman Bradley"
    
    (Now, if we could just work Barbarella in there somehow...)

    Barbarella shows up via the Time Tunnel.
    
    Along with James West and Artemus Gordon.
    
    -b

    
    And Lazurus Long ( having been picked up by a Lensman for trafficking
    non-presciption aspirin ) is brought in and thrown in the DS9 brig.  He
    escapes with the help of Golan Trevize who is still ( at that point )
    searching for Earth.  Just then, Dr. Tachyon's ship _Baby_ arrives
    ( with out the Dr.! ) and begins talking telepathically to Mrs. Troi,
    on board in search of a husband ( and pestering Sisko and Odo ).  Mrs.
    Troi takes her servant to Takis in search of the doctor where her
    servant meets his long-lost brother Lurch from the Aaddam's family. 
    They find the doctor in an embarrassing position with Barbarella,
    debating 'en coitus' the _real_ cause of the Vietnam War.  Then the
    entire space-time continuum implodes from too many inane plots and we
    are left with the question : When will they do a Blackadder in Space?
    
    				-Jim
    

    "When will they do a Blackadder in Space?"
    
    Ah, you missed that, did you?
    
    						Ann B.
    
    I'm serious; there were two alternate futures presented for Blackadder
    in "A Blackadder Christmas Carol".

 re - 21.

The universe doesn't end from too many inane blot devices.

The Dark Star arives and bomb number 36 refuses to come back...

leaving the crew to once again go surfing...

grins,

clark.

    The sign of a truly wasted life is to be able to recognize most of
    these references...

    ...and a BG revival is a truly bad idea.

    
    Now if we could only get Mrs. Peel into this...ah, that leather
    jumpsuit...
    
    Let's call it "Voyage to the Bottom of the Ratings"

    
    There was a short blurb in the Arts and Entertainment section
    of the Boston _Globe_ yesterday. Rumor has it that Paramount 
    is considering making a movie version of _Lost in Space_.
    
    "Ah, the pain, the pain, the pain, the pain..."

    
    "Danger! Danger Will Robinson! Danger!"
    
    ah god, when will it end?  I swear I see Gil Gerard meeting with his
    agent . . . and Dr. Who : The Movie starring Bruce Willis in a toupee .
    . . 
    
    Why do they insist on doing this when there are scads of excellent SF
    _novels_ that could and should be made into movies??  But then, I'd
    hate to be disappointed like i was with _Dune_ . . .
    
    btw - i think Dr. Who would make a good movie - I just don't think
    they'd do it right . . .
    
    						- Jim
    

    Remember, there are two genres: SF, which has a small audience
    and requires a love of consistency and some knowledge of science,
    and Sci Fi, which uses stock figures and situations to give color
    to hackneyed action-adventure plots.
    
    The public pays for Sci Fi movies.  SF movies don't make as much
    money, so movie makers don't like making them.
    
    Movies are short fiction--more like short stories than novels.
    They don't have time to get into complicated background details.
    SF is largely based on such details.  Sci Fi uses already-known
    details (Empires, spaceships, robots, etc.).  
    
    		-John Bishop

    But there are good SF short stories that can be turned into
    excellent movies -- although I'd kill to see a good adaptation
    of "Babel-17."
    					andrew

    Doctor Who was made into at least one movie.  I have this murky
    recollection of something like "Daleks Invasion of Earth".  It was set
    in the "near future" - 1975?  Production values about the same as the
    TV series(es).  I think there might have been one about Cybermen as
    well, but I'm not at all sure.
    
    The BBC also edited together blocks of episodes into hour-long specials
    (maybe longer), but I don't think any of those saw cinema release...8*)
    
    Richard
    

    
    re: .30
    
    Oh, boy wouldn't THAT be keen!  Probably my favorite SF book of all
    time.
    
    DFW

    Re .31
    
    There were two Doctor Who movies made in the sixties, starring Peter
    Cushing. Both were based on stories from the first season. One was 'Dr
    Who and the Daleks', and the other was 'Invasion of Earth'?, also with
    the Daleks, set in 2025 I think. Production values were a lot higher
    than those of the TV series at the time, e.g. they were in colour. The
    TV series versions were better overall, though. The first Dalek story
    is one of the best SF TV shows I have ever seen, even though I didn't
    see it till many years later. The second was a lot weaker though, it
    relied on the shock of seeing the 'monsters' in familar places (London)
    and that doesn't work anymore.
    
    The BBC must have kept some rights to the films - they used to show them
    everytime Wimbledon was rained off.
    
    Peter

    
    Actually, Frank Herbert noted in the introduction to his
    short story collection _EYE_ that there were about 12 hours of
    raw footage that was edited down to the movie version of DUNE,
    and that this footage _could_ be reedited and filled out to make
    a miniseries. If I recall right, there was much more background
    (so the voiceover wouldn't be needed) and a lot more on the 
    minor characters. Might be almost tolerable.
    
    (How about Bruce Willis and Arnie Schartzeneger costaring in a 
    made for TV version of the _Amber_ series? Or Jean Luc Picard
    as Thomas Covernant?)

    re: Babel-17.  Anyone one to give a brief summary to jog my memory?
    I'm pretty sure this is an Sam Delany book, but a search through
    the memory banks comes up with synopsis of 'The Einstein Intersection'
    (now that would be a weird one to film ;-) 'Nova', 'Dhalgren' and a
    few others, but I can't pin Babel down.
    
    Thanks,
    PeterT
    

    Rydra Wong -- exotic, beautiful poet.  Called in by the military
    to solve a cryptography problem -- needs to find a crew for her
    ship -- fanged pilot, several dead (but functional) crewmembers --
    
    Strange enemy attacks, pirates in space, an enigmatic lieutenant --
    
    A wonderful mixture of baroque and steel -- some of the same flavor
    (though less pessimistic) that Ridley Scott brought to "Blade Runner."
    
    					andrew

    
      .34
    
     
  >  (How about Bruce Willis and Arnie Schartzeneger costaring in a 
  >  made for TV version of the _Amber_ series? Or Jean Luc Picard
  >  as Thomas Covernant?)
    
    
    
    
    	Patrick Stewart as Thomas Covenant! Good choice. 
    	The stumper is who will play Foamfollower.

    Re last:
    
    �	Patrick Stewart as Thomas Covenant! Good choice. 
    	The stumper is who will play Foamfollower.
        
    Easy.... JAMS from the bond movies, then use a C.A.D. system to "morph"
    the guy to the right hight!
    
    How about a film version of "The Belgariad"....
    
    Who plays who?
    
    Bob

    How about a remake of Dune with someone who isn't a big chubby geezer
    as Paul Muad'Dib?
    
    Richard (who quite liked the book)
    

    Back in freshman year of college, me and a friend sketched out a
    perect cast for a movie adaptation of _Dhalgren_:
    
    	The Kid -- Donny Osmond
    	Lanya -- Marie Osmond
    	Denny -- Mason Reese
    	Ernest Newboy -- Sebastian Cabot
    	George Harrison -- Sammy Davis Jr.
    	Bunny -- Charles Nelson Reilly
    	Nightmare -- Chevy Chase
    	Dragon Lady -- Flip Wilson (in drag)
    
    Unfortunately we've waited too long to try to get this together and now
    everyone is too old or dead.
    
    Ray

    >Easy.... JAMS from the bond movies, 
    
    Is this the guy that smashes his enemies into jelly?
    
    					andrew
    

    Re - all
    
    	I'm still waiting for someone to turn Martin's Wild Cards series
    into a movie ( several movies ) . . . sigh . . .
    
    	But Roger Corman IS turning out a movie version of The Fantastic
    Four.  He's a little worried about having such a huge budget - $6
    million dollars!!  Well, not *that* big, but about 12 times bigger than
    any other Corman movie :-).  I'll be interested to see what it ends up
    looking like . . . .
    
    					- Jim

    
    And another bulletin from the local TV news:
    
    Planning for a movie based on _The Flintstones_ continues.
    
    Old rumor: John Goodman will play Fred (good choice!)
    
    New rumor: Reportedly Elizabeth Taylor will have a role....
    

    
    I vote Julia Roberts for Wilma ;-)
    
    					- JIm
    

    lay off Amber series, okay - I don't Hollywood to 
    do to it what they did to Damnation Alley.
    Mine you, Princess Bride DID turn out rather well......;-).
    
    Back to the subject at hand....
    
    Ack! Battlestar Galaxative Back! head for the hills....ack!
    
    Dune: I *WILL* kill you!
    
    Some thoughts.....
    
    Monica

    
    re: .41
    
    :') :')
    
    Amber, my all time favs.  I wouldn't want to see a movie done unless it
    was done right.  Gor is another favorite, but the movies BLEW!!!!  :')
    

    
    Actually, I had in mind a miniseries, sort of along the lines
    of Masterpiece Theatre. 'Course, each episode would have to begin
    with about a half hour of plot exposition, "...but Bleys thought
    that Fionna knew that Random had really told Corwin that Dworkin
    and the Unicorn who was really their grandfather could have..."
    
    (_GOR_ as a movie? The mind REELS!)

    
    >>with about a half hour of plot exposition, "...but Bleys thought
    >>that Fionna knew that Random had really told Corwin that Dworkin
    >>and the Unicorn who was really their grandfather could have..."
    
    isn't that afterall how the book went ? 8-)
    
    Monica
    (White, the colour of vanilla ice cream and moby dick etc etc......)

    
    re: .47
    
    yes, there were even *2* GOR movies :')
    

    
    	What were the movies and which books were they based on ?
    
    	Also are you refering to the Gor novels by John Norman ?
    	I would think if they are it would be X-rated.
    
    						Joe

re: Amber

	You could do a movie just based on "Guns of Avalon" which would
have enough blood & guts for Hollywood.

				/Brad

    
    I am referring to John Norman's Gor (actually this is the wrong note
    for this topic line, but...)
    
    The first movie is just called:
    
    GOR
    
    starring:
    Urbano Barberini
    Rebecca Ferratti
    Jack Palance
    Paul L. Smith and
    Oliver Reed
    
    Students at a tiny New Hampshire college aren't the only ones who think
    eternity is the few minutes just before vacation (in the books he was a
    professor in Bristol, England).  Professor Tarl Cabot already has his
    bags packed, his girlfriend waiting and a great gone-fishing
    destination in mind.  But a vacation isn't what other-worldly forces
    have in mind for Tarl.  They know he's one of the chosen few, a man who
    will be hurled across time and space into the wartorn strife of the
    primitive counter-earth called Gor - and into the adventure of a
    thousand lifetimes.
    
    The sword-and-sorcery sci-fi world of novelist John Norman now comes to
    the screen in this fast-paced adaption directed by Fritz Kiercsh
    (Children of the Corn) and filmed in stark, sand-swept locales that
    recreate the parched planet's forbidding terrain.
    
    Urbano Barberini, a star in Franco Zeffirelli's classic operatic film
    Otello, plunges into the action film world as Tarl, the bookish
    professor-turned-sword-wielding liberator.  Fighting alongside Tarl is
    the passionate woman warrior Talena, played by former Playboy playmate
    Rebecca Ferratti.  And Oliver Reed (Oliver!, The Three Musketeers) as
    the brutish enslaver Sarm and Jack Palance (Shane) as the cunning
    Priest King are the kind of hiss-inspiring villians audiences love to
    hate.
    
    Join Tarl's incredible adventure.  Leave the everyday behind and
    journey to the far-off land where heroes are made and legends are born:
    Gor.
    
    Cannon Films, Inc - 1987 - rated PG
    

    
    FWIW, I don't recall the name of the second movie (it was sitting on
    the shelf when I bought this one, but I figured I'd see how good the
    first one was - it didn't inspire me to run out any buy the sequel :')
    - I THINK it was either Outlaw of Gor or Priest-Kings of Gor).
    

    So, what did Jack Palance look like, togged up in an ant costume?
    
    Richard
    

    
    you don't actually think priest-kings are ants in this adaptation of
    the novel, do you???  (then again, if you recall, we don't find that
    out until PKofG anyway.  Men represented false PK's).
    

    Not really.  I just rather liked the notion of him clopping around in a
    Doctor Who-surplus man-sized ant costume...
    
    Richard
    

    
    
    
    Hey!!!!!
    
    
    What the fleet happened to th Battlestar Galactica conference note??
    It sure isn't this one.... talking about everything except B.G!!!
    
    
    Get back on track!!!
    
    
    - update:
    
    I read an interview with Richard Hatch (Apollo) - apparently they are
    doing a remake  for the Science fiction network. Don't know if it's
    going to be a movie or a series though.
    I for one enjoyed the show. I just got the movies from the
    Video club ( the original pilot and  Mission Galactica:Ceylon Attack ).
    
    
    Chris Plant