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209.1 | | KOALA::BURR | | Mon Jun 03 1985 19:00 | 10 |
| A trade paperback titled MEDEA edited by Harlan Ellison was released within
about the last month. In the introduction to it, Ellison alludes to problems
which have prevented him from writing and other activities. The book is a
collection of stories all set on a planet called Medea invented by a panel
of noted authors at a Worldcon panel (ca 1975) moderated by Ellison. This
collection of stories is one of Ellison's projects that had been long
delayed and its appearance may signify that others will follow. I believe
the price for MEDEA is $8.95.
Rod Burr
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209.2 | | AKOV75::BOYAJIAN | | Tue Jun 04 1985 09:22 | 21 |
| According to some things I've read, Ellison had some sort of chemical
imblance that was manifesting itself in all sorts of ways. This was the
primary cause of the writer's block he was suffering.
MEDEA was originally suppsoed to come out almost ten years ago, and be the
first appearance of all the stories contained therein. Because of Ellison's
difficulties and the resultant scheduling problems, all of the stories
have seen print elsewhere. The book is probably still worth getting, though,
because half of it is filled with transciptions of the seminars and notes
that detail the creation of the world Medea.
Incidentally, just the other week I received my copy of the limited edition
from Phantasia Press. There was one detail about it I had forgotten --- that
it was signed by all the contributors.
Including Theodore Sturgeon.
Seeing his name and "Ask the next question" symbol on the limitation page
was quite a shock.
--- jerry
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209.3 | | SUPER::KENAH | | Tue Jun 04 1985 18:30 | 4 |
| Is MEDEA *really* out!! Hot puppies, I've been waiting 10 years for that
book! Who knows -- maybe there really will be a "Last Dangerous Visions".
andrew
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209.4 | | EDEN::CWALSH | | Wed Jun 05 1985 18:27 | 3 |
| Hot puppies? Last time I heard that phrase, I was eating in Chinatown...
:-)
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209.5 | | SUPER::KENAH | | Thu Jun 06 1985 18:35 | 3 |
| Nothing so gross... it's the diminutive of HOT DOG!!!
andrew
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209.6 | | NUTMEG::BALS | | Wed Jun 12 1985 11:30 | 34 |
| I've picked up Medea, thanks for the info. Don't know when I'm going to get
the chance to read it though, as I'm presently struggling through Richard
Adams' 1,100 page "prequel" to "SHARDIK," "MAIA." Then I've got Niven and
Pornelle's "FOOTFALL" to read. Is there a better feeling for an intensive
reader than having more books than time to read them?
Did notice in the Ellison's "MEDEA" bio that he is still announcing the,
"forth-coming LAST DANGEROUS VISIONS." Can't wait to see what publishable
form that albatross of a book is going to take if it ever makes it to
print. 11 years ago I read Ellison's author/content listing for "LDV" in
Richard Geis' "SCIENCE FICTION REVIEW" (nee' "THE ALIEN CRITIC"). With 11
years past, will Ellison go with the original group (memory fails, but two
extremely weird listings were the Firesign Theatre's script of "THE GIANT
RAT OF SUMATRA," and a sequel to "WILD IN THE STREETS."), or will he some-
how try to incorporate the bevy of new writers who are on the scene now?
It would seem to defeat the purpose of DV, if Ellison publishes stories that
are in essence over a decade old. Guees I'll have to keep on waiting and
hoping to find out ...
Finally, through the magic of VCR (and what a gift from the gods that's
been, I haven't been in a theatre for over a year), I finally watched "THE
TERMINATOR" last night. As the credits scrolled, I was surprised to see,
"The producers wish to express their acknowledgement of the works of Harlan
Ellison." Evidently they were referring to "SOLDIER," (title right?) which
has appeared as both an Outer Limits episode and as a short story. I guess
one could make a case that the plot of "THE TERMINATOR," was loosely
similar to that of "SOLDIER" (future warrior time-travels to past).
It'd be interesting to find out whether the writers/producers of "THE
TERMINATOR" are fans who wanted to acknowledge a master, or whether there
were legal reasons a la' the Ellison/"BRILLO" vs; ABC/"FUTURE COP" case.
My bet's on the latter.
Fred
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209.7 | | AURORA::RAVAN | | Wed Jun 12 1985 15:58 | 7 |
| Re .6 - Yep, I believe the original "Terminator" didn't acknowledge Ellison.
It still isn't clear if his story influenced the writers, but the similarity
was enough to cause the dedication. I *think* there was the suggestion of
legal action, but I don't know if it ever got that far... Jerry? Further
details?
-b
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209.8 | | LOGIC::KEVIN | | Thu Jun 13 1985 09:38 | 6 |
| Re: .7
Ellison did in fact sue; the suite was settled out of court with Ellison
picking up $70K.
Kevin
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209.9 | | MAGIC::BUFORD | | Thu Jun 13 1985 09:46 | 7 |
| The August 1985 _Analog_ "Calendar" says Ellison will be one of the guests
of honor at ALBACON 84 (sic) on 19-22 July in Glasgow, Scotland.
If you happen to be in the neighborhood...
John B.
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209.10 | | INK::BALS | | Thu Jun 13 1985 10:32 | 1 |
| RE: .8 -- Yay Harlan! With $70k settlements, who needs to write?
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209.11 | | LOGIC::KEVIN | | Fri Jun 14 1985 10:29 | 7 |
| Re: .10
In that case, you would probably be interested in knowing that he earned $230K
in 1980. (Or was it 1981? Or was it $225K? Anyway, you get the idea.)
Source: ``On the Road with Ellison'' (LP of speech excerpts).
Kevin
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209.12 | SPOILED ROTTEN! | EDEN::KLAES | It obstructs my view of Venus! | Mon Jun 09 1986 18:59 | 2 |
| Why is this guy such a crybaby?!
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209.13 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | Mr. Gumby, my brain hurts | Fri Jun 13 1986 04:36 | 3 |
| You don't think he should fight for what he believes is his?
--- jerry
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209.14 | Harlan reviews the movies | DSSDEV::REINIG | August G. Reinig | Fri Jun 13 1986 18:45 | 4 |
| Harlan writes a column in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction.
It's not there every month.
August G. Reinig
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209.15 | RE 209.13 | EDEN::KLAES | It obstructs my view of Venus! | Fri Jun 13 1986 19:56 | 6 |
| Oh I do think he should, but I also think Ellison carries it
way too far, to the point where he loses a lot of sympathy towards
his cause.
Larry
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209.16 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | Mr. Gumby, my brain hurts | Sat Jun 14 1986 00:56 | 11 |
| re:.15
Interesting. I don't always agree with his feelings about what
is "ripped off" from what else, but I've never lost sympathy
for "his cause". His cause is to tell Hollywood (the monolithic
entity) that stealing ideas is anti-social behavior. Hollywood
seems to be under the impression that "originality" means "just
different enough to not get sued". Ellison wants to move the
boundry of what is "just different enough".
--- jerry
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209.17 | Ellison and the T.Zone | CACHE::MARSHALL | | Mon Jun 23 1986 17:36 | 8 |
| hope I'm not beating a dead horse, but have you noticed that Ellison
is the Creative Consultant for the new Twilight Zone? ( I suppose
"was" is the correct tense, and "new" should now be "defunct")
I was shocked to see this, after I had heard him say that TV was
EVIL and he would never NEVER work for that industry again.
sm
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209.18 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | Did I err? | Wed Jun 25 1986 02:15 | 13 |
| THE TWILIGHT ZONE is not yet defunct. It has been renewed for
next season. As for Ellison working on it, yes he admitted that
he "went back on his word", but it was because he felt that
Phil DeGuere, the producer of TZ, was one of the few decent
people in the industry. And he was promised that "management"
would not interfere with the "creators". Unfortunately, it was
just that that caused Ellison's resignation.
Anyways, right now, Ellison is the host of an sf radio program
in LA: MIKE HODEL'S HOUR 25, following the sickness and death
of Mike Hodel, the creator and first host of the show.
--- jerry
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209.19 | Obscure appearance | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | Did I err? | Thu Jun 26 1986 09:48 | 11 |
| A couple of months ago, I was shown a record album of Benny Goodman's
concert in New York from last Fall (which was televised in March on
PBS). I was asked to read the liner notes. Once I read the title,
"He Speaks, and the Angels Sing", I knew that they were written
by Ellison. A glance at the by-line confirmed this. You never know
where Ellison's going to pop up.
(I had forgotten to mention this before, but was reminded when I
picked up the CD of this album this past weekend.)
--- jerry
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209.20 | RE: The "Harlen's a Wimp" replies. | TROLL::RUDMAN | | Tue Jul 01 1986 14:12 | 8 |
| Remember that this is "The World according to Ellison". He is very
opinionated and always seems to be able to "set the record straight".
Read THE GLASS TEAT and STALKING THE NIGHTMARE. He just does what
he wants & the heck with everyone else. This attitude, I'm sure,
is a major contributing factor to his success as a writer. He's
sensitive about his height, also. :-)
Don
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209.21 | A RIPOFF?? | EDEN::KLAES | Time to make the doughnuts! | Wed Jul 09 1986 13:33 | 21 |
| In reference to some comments about harlan Ellison demanding
credit for the film THE TERMINATOR, I recently read a very detailed
plot synopsis about the Outer Limits story it was allegedly "stolen"
from, "The Demon With the Glass Hand", and I for one do NOT agree
at all that that is where the Terminator's creators stole the plot
from.
Demon's basic similarity with Terminator is that a robot soldier
goes back in time trying to escape some alien soldiers from a future
Earth that was invaded by them. The robot soldier was NOT going
back in time to change the future, and as one looks at the plot
closer, sees it essentially consists of chase sequences and the
robot discovering it is a robot (I believe there are plot summaries
earlier in this file).
The point I'm trying to make is, the Terminator creators "ripped
off" Demon about as much as saying that anyone who writes about
an FTL starship is ripping off Star Trek! Sure, they may have gotten
their inspiration from Demon, but they certainly didn't plagarize
the story.
Larry
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209.22 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | Did I err? | Thu Jul 10 1986 05:23 | 8 |
| re:.21
Actually, though some elements of "Demon with a Glass Hand" are
present in THE TERMINATOR, it's actually Ellison's *other* TOL
script, "Soldier" that is what Ellison is claiming is the "source"
for THE TERMINATOR.
--- jerry
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209.23 | RE 209.22 | EDEN::KLAES | Time to make the doughnuts! | Thu Jul 10 1986 14:41 | 5 |
| Since I have not read "Soldier", could you tell me about it -
was it close to the Outer Limits episode - and just how much
do you think it was similar to Terminator.
Larry
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209.24 | THIS IS FROM THE TV NOTES! | EDEN::KLAES | Avoid a granfalloon. | Thu Aug 21 1986 16:04 | 88 |
| <<< BISON::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]TV.NOTE;1 >>>
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I just read in a SF magazine that Harlan Ellison who wrote 2 Outer Limits
episodes "The Glass Hand" and "The Warrior" is talking to lawyers about the
plot similarities to "The Terminator".
Was the similarity coincidental or was this a plagarism?
Pat Sweeney
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First of all, just to be picayune, the OUTER LIMITS episodes were "Demon with
a Glass Hand" and "Soldier".
The basic plots are as follows:
"Demon with a Glass Hand": In the near future, Earth is involved in a war with
an alien race, the Kybans[1m*[m\. The Kybans soon develop a method of sending
themselves back in time, hoping to conquer us by taking over the more
primitive present-day Earth. One person (played by Robert Culp), one of
whose hands is made of glass (or glass-like plastic, more likely) and
computer chips, is sent back to stop them.
"Soldier": During a battle in a future war, a time-warp is accidentally opened
up and a soldier is sent back to present-day Earth. In his own time,
soldiers aren't trained so much as bred to be aggressive, nasty, and
deadly. During his stay in "our" time, he learns compassion.
THE TERMINATOR (I'll assume that you haven't seen it): In the near future, a
super-computer develops intelligence and tries to take over the world
by eradicating all human life. There is an organized resistance, though
neither side seems to be making any headway. The Computer side develops
a time-travel method and sends a lone robot "Terminator" back to the
present to kill the woman who is destined to give birth to the man who
will become the leader of the resistance. The good guys manage to break
into the lab where the time machine is and send one of their own back
to stop the Terminator.
Superficially, THE TERMINATOR seems to be a combination of the two Ellison-
written OUTER LIMITS episodes. But only superficially. On the same basis, one
could argue that Burroughs' TARZAN OF THE APES had the same basic plot as
Kipling's THE JUNGLE BOOK --- that of a feral child raised by animals. Ellison
doesn't have a monopoly on future war stories, or time-travel stories, or even
try-to-change-the-past-to-defeat-the-enemy stories. THE TERMINATOR is a fresh
treatment of the idea, and I think Ellison's in the wrong this time.
I think he's just gotten cocky from winning the lawsuit against which-
ever studio and/or network it was that plaigerized his and Ben Bova's short
story "Brillo", making it into that robot-cop show with Ernest Borgnine (the
title of the show escapes me at the moment). In that instance, the plaigerism
was well-founded, as Ellison was able to present evidence that he submitted a
treatment to the studio/network for a possible tv-movie or series based on
"Brillo". The concept was rejected, but that above-mentioned show *did* show
up a year or so later.
Personally, I think there's been a little too many plaigerism suits being
tossed about.
--- jerry
[1m*[m\ Incidentally, though "Demon with a Glass Hand" is not adapted from any
previously written story, Ellison *has* written a number of short
stories about the Earth-Kyba wars. They're in rather obscure places,
though, and aren't easy to find.
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That Brillo rip-off was called FUTURE COP, and made in 1977.
I agree that Ellison had no right to sue for credit in the
Terminator; I saw one novel about ten years back about a man sent
back in time to kill the mother of the leader of a fanatical
religious/political group before he was born - Ellison does NOT
have a monopoly on such stories.
Larry
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209.25 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | Forever On Patrol | Wed Sep 10 1986 04:48 | 16 |
| Due to a discussion in LANDO::COMICS, it occurred to me to mention
this here.
(1) Ellison's collection FROM THE LAND OF FEAR (currently out of
print) contains both "Soldier from Tomorrow" (the original short
story) and "Soldier" (the OUTER LIMITS teleplay). If you (in general,
but also specificly Larry) want to read the story, it's worth
hunting down the book.
(2) "Demon With a Glass Hand" has just been published as a "graphic
novel" by DC Comics. Those of you who are enlightened enough to
not believe that comics are only for children and sub-literates
are urged to stop in a comic shop to pick up a copy (Walden Books
will most likely also carry them starting in a couple of weeks).
--- jerry
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209.26 | Blood Roves in Boston (7/11) | SWILLR::EDECK | | Sun Jul 05 1987 16:54 | 3 |
|
"A Boy and His Dog" will be shown on Saturday, July 11, on channel
38 (Boston). 8 PM.
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209.27 | Ellison's I,ROBOT | VIDEO::TEBAY | Natural phenomena invented to order | Wed Sep 30 1987 10:42 | 9 |
| Just finished reading Eliison's script of I,ROBOT.
It knocked my socks off. Of course it is a little hard to
read a script and imagine but if you follow Ellison's film
history and imagaine-
Unfortunately-the odds are it will never be produced.Now if
I only had the money.
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209.28 | RE 209.27 | DICKNS::KLAES | Angels in the Architecture. | Wed Sep 30 1987 11:25 | 4 |
| See SF Topic 526.
Larry
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209.29 | New Ellison | FRAGLE::MACNEAL | Big Mac | Thu Jun 02 1988 14:40 | 2 |
| Harlan Ellison is supposed to be coming out with a new collection of
short stories sometime this summer entitled 'Angry Candy'.
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209.30 | _An_Edge_In_My_Voice_ | TFH::MARSHALL | hunting the snark | Thu Jun 02 1988 18:28 | 18 |
| No one seems to have mentioned a relatively recent collection entitled
_An_Edge_in_My_Voice_, which collects the 59 columns of the same
name that were originally published in _future_life_,
_comics_<something>_, and _The_L.A._Weekly_.
The columns are typical Ellison commentary on just about everything.
There is frequent reference to the "I, Robot" screenplay, the ERA
movement, Gun Control, "Lou Grant", and Brian DiPalma.
Interesting to note is that Tom Snyder wrote the introduction.
I got it in the "trade paperback" version, I've not seen it in "normal"
paperback.
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209.31 | | BUFFER::MILLER | | Thu Jul 21 1988 18:22 | 14 |
| A non-noter is trying to remember where he read the following short story.
He's pretty sure it was written by Harlan Ellison and thought it was part
of the "Strange Wine" collection but it isn't. Does anyone recognize it,
and if so, know which anthology it's in? Thanks.
Synopsis:
An American soldier in Saigon is told by his Vietnamese girlfriend, just
before she dies, about the existence of a physical embodiment of true love.
He has the name of a person and through this person he begins a search for
the object that represents true love. It requires him to conjure up a
minor demon from the underworld for part of the puzzle. It turns out that
the object has existed throughout time and has been sought by many powerful
people.
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209.32 | definitely Harlan | TFH::MARSHALL | hunting the snark | Fri Jul 22 1988 18:51 | 12 |
| re .31:
That is definitely Ellison, he read it at one of his "lectures"
at MIT a few years ago. I cannot remember the title, but it might
be in _Shatterday_ (I think that was published after _Strange_Wine_)
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209.33 | not _Shatterday_ | TFH::MARSHALL | hunting the snark | Thu Aug 25 1988 13:15 | 12 |
| re .31:
Well I finally got around to actually looking it up.
The story is "Grail" and it was collected in _Stalking_the_Nightmare_.
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209.34 | Angry Candy | FRAGLE::MACNEAL | Don't Worry. Beat Yankees. | Tue Sep 20 1988 11:16 | 16 |
| I just started reading Ellison's new book "Angry Candy". It is a
collection of short stories, many of which have appeared in various
magazines. As he points out in the introduction, all of his
collections have a theme running through them; something he feels
occurs somewhat accidentally.
The theme this time is death, and was brought about by the loss of many
of his friends and peers between 1985 and 1987. He has some
interesting comments about some of these people in the introduction (he
thinks L.Ron Hubbard never really took Dianetics seriously and has some
pretty harsh words for Scientologists). He even includes excerpts from
eulogies he wrote, including one for Theodore Sturgeon.
From what I've read so far, this is good stuff. The imagery, language,
and plot twists are pure Ellison. He really knows how to hit the
emotions of the reader.
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209.35 | Understandable | SKITZD::MESSENGER | Dreamer Fithp | Tue Sep 20 1988 13:54 | 12 |
| re: .-1
[Harlan Ellison has some]
>interesting comments about some of these people in the introduction (he
>thinks L.Ron Hubbard never really took Dianetics seriously and has some
>pretty harsh words for Scientologists). He even includes excerpts from
This attitude is understandable, given that he quotes LRH as saying:
"...the only way to make any money in this world is to start a new
kind of psychotherapy or a new religion." before he started
Scientology.
- HBM
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209.36 | | FRAGLE::MACNEAL | Don't Worry. Beat Yankees. | Tue Sep 20 1988 13:56 | 2 |
| re .35: Ellison did make a comment to the effect that it was a way for
LRH to make money.
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209.37 | | VIDEO::TEBAY | Natural phenomena invented to order | Thu Sep 22 1988 12:15 | 2 |
| Is this hardback or paperback?
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209.38 | Angry Candy Publisher info | FENNEL::BALS | There goes Totoa | Thu Sep 22 1988 13:49 | 8 |
| RE: .37
I assume you're referring to "Angry Candy." It's only in hardcover
at this time -- since it's just been released that will probably
be its status for some time. It's $18.95. Publisher is
Houghton-Mifflin.
Fred
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209.39 | "ANGRY CANDY" | 57028::TEBAY | Natural phenomena invented to order | Mon Oct 17 1988 13:40 | 7 |
| Well-just finished "ANGRY CANDY". It is a good collection
and its main theme is --
<ff>
Death.
It is a bit too much to read in one sitting even for me as a devote
of Ellison. Very dark and bleak. But good.
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209.40 | RE 209.39 | MTWAIN::KLAES | Saturn by 1970 | Mon Oct 17 1988 15:08 | 2 |
| I'm afraid your <FF> didn't work.
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209.41 | Another image shattered | PSG::PURMAL | Formality is anger with its hair combed | Wed Oct 26 1988 17:40 | 5 |
| I last saw Ellison on television last night, in a commercial,
selling cars. I wonder who, what or how much it took for him to
agree to represent the cars.
ASP
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209.42 | I've just lost my phase lock on reality! | SNDCSL::SMITH | IEEE-696 | Thu Oct 27 1988 11:16 | 5 |
| Not _the_ Harlan Ellison, really? He hates (well, he hates everything,
near as I can tell, but anyway) television and the commercial world
more than anyone in the known universe....
Willie
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209.43 | I'm sure I was awake when I saw it. | PSG::PURMAL | Formality is anger with its hair combed | Thu Oct 27 1988 12:10 | 8 |
| re: .42
Yes. The Harlan Ellison. He is given the title "Harlan Ellison
noted futurist" in the commercial. I was surprised that no one else
has seen the commercial. I saw it again last night before one of the
two Wonder Years shown last night.
ASP
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209.44 | | VIDEO::TEBAY | Natural phenomena invented to order | Fri Oct 28 1988 14:27 | 5 |
| What car?
Ellison said in this months column that the ten year drought had
been due to Epstein-Barr virus.
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209.45 | I have no mouth, and I must buy a Geo | PSG::PURMAL | Formality is anger with its hair combed | Fri Oct 28 1988 14:47 | 4 |
| Harlan is speaking for the Geo line of Japanese cars being sold
by Chevrolet (or Chrysler).
ASP
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209.46 | RE 209.44 | MTWAIN::KLAES | Saturn by 1970 | Fri Oct 28 1988 16:00 | 2 |
| What is Epstein-Barr virus?
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209.47 | | REGENT::POWERS | | Fri Oct 28 1988 17:19 | 6 |
| > What is Epstein-Barr virus?
The alleged cause of chronic fatigue and related symptons - kind
of like a permanent flu with less respiratory complications.
Recent research has called the existence of the syndrome into question,
however.
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209.48 | mono | TFH::MARSHALL | hunting the snark | Tue Nov 01 1988 18:16 | 17 |
| re .46, .47:
Epstein-Barr virus is the source of "mononucleosis", aka "mono".
There is a chronic condition similar to "mono" in later life that
had been attributed to Epstein-Barr (called for a time "Chronic
Epstein-Barr Syndrome), but recent research has proven that once
you've had E-B (mono) you are permanantly immune. The cause of the
chronic condition is unknown and has been renamed Chronic Fatigue
Syndrome.
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209.49 | | DEADLY::REDFORD | Norm D. Plume | Mon Nov 07 1988 17:14 | 4 |
| Selling cars, eh? Sounds like Chronic Writer-Block Syndrome to me.
Maybe this will finally force him to assemble Last Dangerous Visions
and get it out.
/jlr
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209.50 | | AKOV76::BOYAJIAN | He's baaaaacccckkkk!!!! | Mon Nov 14 1988 04:34 | 8 |
| I actually saw one of these while I was in SF (heh heh -- I mean
San Francisco, of course) last week. Bee-zar.
In fact, Ellison spoke in Palo Alto on Friday. I didn't get down
there, and I forgot to ask the couple of folks I know who did get
there whether anyone asked him why he was pimping for cars.
--- jerry
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209.51 | believe it or not.... | SKYLRK::HAZEL | | Mon Nov 14 1988 18:25 | 3 |
| Ellison selling cars is unreal! I hope someone eventually gets to
ask him about it.
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209.52 | Three strikes and you're out | PSG::PURMAL | If not satisfied, return for refund | Tue Nov 15 1988 17:13 | 12 |
| re: .50
Jerry,
Strike one - You visited the area without letting area noters meet
you, a noting legend.
Strike two - You didn't advertize Ellison's speaking engagement.
One more left sir!
ASP
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209.53 | | AKOV75::BOYAJIAN | He's baaaaacccckkkk!!!! | Wed Nov 16 1988 01:05 | 8 |
| re:.52
(1) I plead guilty.
(2) I plead not guilty (I didn't know about it until a few days
before it happened, and I had no access to a terminal).
--- jerry
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209.54 | Yet more ramblings | BENTLY::MESSENGER | Dreamer Fithp | Tue Nov 22 1988 12:34 | 14 |
| Re: <various>
[Harlan Ellison is promoting Geo automobiles: who is Geo?]
Geo is a joint venture between Suzuki (yep, those folks who brought
us the Samurai) and Chrysler Canada (yep, that guy who brought us
exploding Pintos).
Ellison was on the Alex Bennett show (an early-morning radio show).
He was much more entertaining that the commercials... he managed
to slam Scientology yet again (yay). Ellison was kinda upset that
people thought he "sold out" to make these commercials... which
is an interesting attitude to take, from him.
- HBM
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209.55 | A few nits to pick | IRT::BOWERS | Count Zero Interrupt | Wed Nov 23 1988 09:09 | 4 |
| Geo - Chevrolet's name for the line of Suzuki vehicles they are
selling.
Pinto - a FORD.
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209.56 | Ford, yes, but..... | OASS::MDILLSON | I was better, but I got over it. | Wed Nov 23 1988 12:50 | 4 |
| re .55
Ah, but Lee Iococca was the *man* that brought you the Ford Pinto!
Read the note.
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209.57 | and where does Ellison fit into this? | TFH::MARSHALL | hunting the snark | Wed Nov 23 1988 16:27 | 10 |
| re .56:
old Lee also brought us the Mustang. But what does he have to do
with GEO?
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209.58 | (-: Isn't it fun to kick him when he's down? :-) | SSGBPM::KENAH | Lifeblood, weeping from my eyes | Mon Nov 28 1988 10:17 | 4 |
| ...and if Geo is being marketed by Chevrolet, there seems to be
little connection betewwn it and the head of Chrysler Corporation.
andrew
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209.59 | But.... | OASS::MDILLSON | I was better, but I got over it. | Mon Nov 28 1988 12:13 | 2 |
| But, But.... Lee Ioccocca was with Ford when the Pinto and the
Mustang came out!
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209.60 | Chrysler Canada <-> GM ??? | VAXWRK::INGRAM | That was then, This isn't happening. | Wed Nov 30 1988 15:58 | 4 |
| I think we understand about the Iacocca part. What still doesn't
make sense is why Chevy is selling a Chrysler.
Larry
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209.61 | Am I the only car buff here?? | COFLUB::WRIGHT | A song called Youth | Fri Dec 02 1988 10:50 | 20 |
|
to set the record straight -
Geo is GM's newest division, it does/will consist of all imports
sold by GM. All imports will ONLY be sold by Geo. So if you by
a Geo something from a pontiac dealer you just bought an import.
Geo is also the new name for the old chevy sprint (3 cylinder, high
mileage, city terrorist car.)
Geo cars are not part of ChryCo, nor are they exclusivly suzuki
(which is opening up direct sales in this country, they have 3 models
out currently.)
for further discussion of this, I'll meet you in carbuffs.
(ACCARS::CARBUFFS)
grins,
clark.
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209.62 | He's BACKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!! | HPSTEK::CONTRACTOR | Domenic Ciccone | Tue Oct 24 1989 17:50 | 9 |
| Looks like old Harlan's got a new book out called "Harlan Ellison's
Watching". I spent maybe 5 seconds looking at it but it looks like a
bunch of essays about the movie industry.
I'll read it when my local library gets a copy.
Domenic Ciccone
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209.63 | | RUBY::BOYAJIAN | Copyright 1953, Renewed 1989 | Wed Oct 25 1989 07:55 | 7 |
| re:.62
It's been out a while. It's a collection of his movie review-and-
commentary columns for THE MAGAZINE OF FANTASY & SCIENCE FICTION
and other places.
--- jerry
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209.64 | ANGRY CANDY | YUPPY::DAVIESA | Grail seeker | Mon Jan 29 1990 12:08 | 5 |
|
Any comments on "Angry Candy"?
'gail
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209.65 | | RUBY::BOYAJIAN | Secretary of the Stratosphere | Wed Jan 31 1990 03:56 | 5 |
| re:.64
Only that it's another great collection of stories.
--- jerry
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209.66 | | OASS::MDILLSON | Generic Personal Name | Wed Jan 31 1990 09:27 | 4 |
| re .64
And also to say "Why is this the first comment on this great book since
it came out over a year ago?"
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209.67 | | YUPPY::DAVIESA | Grail seeker | Wed Jan 31 1990 10:49 | 17 |
|
Well, I've only just seen it here in Forbidden Planet - but then,
this is the UK. And I don't go in there that often - my chequebook
can't stand it.....
Has anyone out there read it?
At first glance my impression was: nice cover artwork, good binding,
a little on the expensive side, and the typesetting is unusual in
some stories - in one story half the page is written as usual and the
other half is written across the page (turn book through 90 degrees
to read it)...
'gail
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209.68 | | AUSTIN::MACNEAL | Big Mac | Wed Jan 31 1990 17:43 | 5 |
| � Any comments on "Angry Candy"?
'gail,
See 209.34 and a few of the replies after that.
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209.69 | not quite SF, but.... | WLDWST::RWALKER | | Wed Jan 31 1990 21:53 | 10 |
|
A search of this topic shows no mention of Ellison's contribution
to SCARE CARE, the anthology edited by Graham Masterson. Harlan's
story was entitled THE AVENGER OF DEATH, and was quite good,
I thought.
The anthology is very good, also, though it's horror, so I won't
discuss it here. The copyright notice for HE's story says '89.
-rick
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209.70 | | RUBY::BOYAJIAN | Secretary of the Stratosphere | Thu Feb 01 1990 08:49 | 10 |
| re:.69
Discussion of horror stories is not prohibited here. I don't think
the majority of readers of this conference would be especially
happy if discussion of horror fiction dominated the conference,
but as far as I'm concerned, as a reader and as a co-moderator,
the name "SF" is merely shorthand for Fantastic Literature of all
stripes.
--- jerry
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209.71 | reminiscing | BAYES::HIGINBOTHAM | The Harmonica Gauchos | Thu Feb 01 1990 11:08 | 18 |
| >> and the typesetting is unusual in
some stories - in one story half the page is written as usual and the
other half is written across the page (turn book through 90 degrees
to read it)...
I remember when that story first appeared in Galaxy (I was in
college -- can it be 20 yrs. ago ?!?). The weird layout and Gaughan
art caused quite a stir; the letters page was full of this for months.
I loved it, as I recall, though I remember very little about it now.
"The Region Between" (?) I believe?
Eljer Jakkobsen (sp) edited the mag at this time, and was trying a
lot of interesting things. I believe this was the last good period in
Galaxy's distinguished career. (Lots of Silverberg novels that are now
reprinted at $3.95 -- and I paid $1.25 an issue)
Brent
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209.72 | Getting Thru HE's Watching | MAKITA::CICCONE | I'm gonna rant and rave | Fri Feb 02 1990 12:06 | 12 |
| Half way thru "Harlan Ellison's Watching" . The book in mostly reprints
of movie reviews with a few essays on the moivie industry and writting
screenplays. The reviews pack the usual Ellison punch and I'm having
a great time reading this comments on Sci-fi movies like Dune, Star
Wars and Star Trek I.
I read "Angry Candy" about a year and a half ago. Can't remember
anything about it though.....
Domenic
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209.73 | RE: .70 | WLDWST::RWALKER | | Mon Feb 12 1990 21:40 | 8 |
|
Dear Mr. Secretary,
I slump corrected. The story was not discussed, but if you've
read it you might agree it is a bit of a cross-over. As one
might expect from the author...
-rick
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209.74 | | KISHOR::HIGINBOTHAM | Send me a wake up letter. | Thu Sep 13 1990 14:50 | 3 |
|
has "Last Dangerous Visions" come out yet?
bh
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209.75 | | RUBY::BOYAJIAN | Danger! Do Not Reverse Polarity! | Fri Sep 14 1990 03:44 | 5 |
| re:.74
Of course not. The Apocalypse hasn't arrived yet. :-)
--- jerry
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209.76 | | NEWOA::BAILEY | So you must be Marlowe | Mon Jan 21 1991 06:51 | 11 |
|
Could someone with a copy of "THE GLASS TEAT" please post
a very quick summary of what its about ?
(I think the book I read years ago was this one.. but just
checking)
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209.77 | THE GLASS TEAT | TALLIS::SIGEL | | Mon Jan 21 1991 12:47 | 8 |
| Re: .76
THE GLASS TEAT and THE OTHER GLASS TEAT reprint a bunch of
Ellison newspaper columns from the 60s. Entirely nonfiction.
Much less self-indulgent and far more interesting than what
he writes nowadays for F&SF.
Andrew
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209.78 | One addition: | STAR::RDAVIS | Untimely ripp'd | Wed Jan 30 1991 10:37 | 3 |
| The "Glass Teat" columns were more-or-less about TV.
Ray
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209.79 | In BEST AMERICAN SHORT STORIES, 1993 | ZENDIA::BORSOM | | Mon Mar 07 1994 21:05 | 8 |
| Old news, but BEST AMERICAN SHORT STORIES, 1993 includes a story by
Harlan Ellison.
Sorry, don't recall the story's title; it was one of Ellison's signature
l-o-n-g titles. Something like "The Man Who Rowed Columbus Ashore."
-doug
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209.80 | book last year... | NEMAIL::CARROLLJ | Gilligan! Drop those coconuts!! | Tue Mar 08 1994 06:29 | 8 |
|
Also recently ( last year ) came out with a novella-short story
( seperate book, 'bout 100 pages or so ) Mephisto's mumble-mumble - I
can't believe I don't remember the title. Cover work by Frank Miller.
Story concerns a telepath and a serial killer. Great story, btw
- Jim
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209.81 | | ROCK::BELL | | Tue Mar 08 1994 08:14 | 4 |
| I believe it was called Mephisto in Onyx. It's still only in Hardcover as far
as I know.
Shane
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209.82 | | DPDMAI::MILLERR | Lost my TARDIS, now I'm stuck here! | Tue Mar 08 1994 17:45 | 9 |
| A friend related an interview (I think) recently with Harlan on the
Sci-Fi Channel about his recent earthquake experiences. Seems he was
knocked down a flight of stairs and cracked his head badly. He almost
died. Most of his book collection was destroyed, and his Hugo
(you know - the rocket shaped one?) was found imbedded in the
screen of his Mac. He's recovering nicely (although I wouldn't be if
most of MY book collection was gone!)
- Russ
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209.83 | he lost his books in an EARTHQUAKE? | REGENT::POWERS | | Wed Mar 09 1994 08:56 | 7 |
| How does one lose his book collection in an earthquake?
One obvious way would be if it (the earthquake) caused a fire and burned
his house down, but then one would say "He lost his house and all his books"
and that doesn't seem to be the case (especially if they could find his Mac
and his Hugo in their deadly embrace).
- tom]
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209.84 | | GAUSS::REITH | Jim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021 | Wed Mar 09 1994 10:10 | 1 |
| Water damage from broken pipes (water and sewage?)
|
209.85 | | DPDMAI::MILLERR | Lost my TARDIS, now I'm stuck here! | Wed Mar 09 1994 12:25 | 4 |
| I assume it was from fire/water/building-material-falling-on-them.
I didn't get much more detail from my source.
-russ
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209.86 | shake, shake, shake | NEMAIL::CARROLLJ | Gilligan! Drop those coconuts!! | Wed Mar 09 1994 13:16 | 6 |
| tres bummer - glad to hear he's okay, though -
Mephisto in Onyx is indeed the title - Thanks!
- Jim
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209.87 | Harlan's "Demon with a Glass Hand" may show up on Babylon 5... | QUARRY::petert | rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty | Wed Mar 09 1994 15:31 | 7 |
| JMS, the creator of Babylon 5, where Harlan is now the creative consultant
and will have some episodes to his credit latter in the season, reported
after the quake that Harlan had broken his nose, as he was climbing a
staircase in his house when the quake hit. Didn't mention anything
about it being life threatening.
PeterT
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209.88 | Would Harlan exaggerate? | REGENT::BROOMHEAD | Don't panic -- yet. | Thu Mar 10 1994 10:27 | 4 |
| Things weren't destroyed, according to Ed Bryant, who spent two days
there, cleaning up.
Ann B.
|