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Title:Arcana Caelestia
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Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
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8.0. "SF Films for 1984-1985" by NACHO::LYNCH () Tue Dec 20 1983 12:13

Besides the new Indiana Jones flick coming in May, does anyone know
of any other big SF films coming? Even next summer...
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8.1ROLL::FEATHERSTONTue Dec 20 1983 12:466

Last I heard, "DUNE" was being released in Dec '84. They had finished filming
and were starting to put the special effects in.

					/ed featherston/
8.2ORAC::BUTENHOFWed Dec 21 1983 08:248
Right - they've been in editing since June.  Stars include the Police's
lead singer, Sting.  Dune has been in planning since '80 - Dino de Laurentis
and Frank Herbert did the screenplay together . . . should be interesting.

Also, of course, there's Star Trek III somewhere on the horizon, directed
by Nimoy.

	/dave
8.3NACHO::LYNCHWed Dec 21 1983 09:193
I just heard yesterday that "2010" is going to be released in '84. Kubrick
did NOT direct it.
8.4BACH::PIERSONWed Dec 21 1983 12:575
I'll see DUNE, but not with high expectations.  Dino de Laurentis has got to be
one of the worst hacks in hollywood.  After Conan Meets Malibu Beach, do we
need to have DUNE butchered?

							dan
8.5ORAC::BUTENHOFWed Dec 21 1983 13:177
Herbert has been (reportedly) keeping close tabs on the production, and
does have some degree of control.  de Laurentis does have a definate
skill with large productions; sometimes he lacks sufficient discrimination
in working with stories: hopefully Herbert will be watchful.  When I heard
him talk about it ('80 Boskone, I think) he had already done prelimary
work with de Laurentis and had high hopes for the movie: give it a fair
chance.
8.6NUHAVN::CANTORThu Dec 22 1983 22:355
I saw a presentation on Dune at ConStellation (this year's Worldcon, for
those of you who don't know).  It looks like it's going to be a winner.
I'm looking forward to it.

Dave C.
8.7NACHO::LYNCHFri Jan 06 1984 08:3828
Regarding the upcoming "2010" film, this from the Movies Newsgroup on USENET:


Newsgroups: net.movies
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Subject: Re: 2010 in 1984 - (nf)


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uokvax!rigney    Dec 26 10:13:00 1983

>From USA Today Entertainment Section:

		SCHEIDER GETS ROLE

     Roy Scheider has been selected for the leading role in MGM's
"2010: Odyssey Two," which will be produced, written, and directed
by Peter Hyams.
     John Lithgow and Bob Balaban have also been cast in prominent
roles.  Based upon Arthur C. Clarke's epic continuation of "2001:
A Space Odyssey," the film begins principal photography on Feb. 6,
1984, following nearly nine months of pre-production.

	Carl
	..!ctvax!uokvax!rigney


-- Bill
8.8ORPHAN::LIONELFri Jan 06 1984 15:337
Having read the book, I don't have high hopes for the film.

I saw a "coming attractions" for 2010 last week; it consisted entirely of
the "Also Sprach Zarathustra" theme played while the digits 2 0 1 0
slowly appeared on the screen.  Tells you a lot, doesn't it?

				Steve
8.9NACHO::LYNCHFri Jan 06 1984 16:075
It would be a little hard to show much of a preview if they're just
completing pre-production work (see reply #7).

It WILL have a hard time living up to 2001, that's for sure!!
8.10ROLL::FEATHERSTONTue Jan 10 1984 08:25201
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Subject: sf & fantasy films for the upcoming year


From:            Peter Reiher <reiher@UCLA-CS>


	The L.A. Times entertainment section (Calender) for Sunday, January
8th, published a list of all of the films that major studios are willing to
admit that they plan to release in 1984.  I have extracted those dealing with
science fiction or fantasy here.  Bracketed comments are my own.  The original
list was compiled by Julie Richard.

February

"Plein Sud" ("Heat of Desire")
	A fantasy about an intellectual who becomes a man of action under the
tutelage of a beautiful adventuress.  Starring Patrick Dewaere, Clio Goldsmith,
and Jeanne Moreau. [A French film, if you haven't already guessed, and not too
recent, since Dewaere killed himself early last year]. (Triumph/Columbia)

March/April

"Iceman"
	The story of a Neanderthal man who is found frozen alive in glacial
ice. Timothy Hutton and Lindsay Crouse star.  Fred Schepisi ("The Chant of
Jimmie Blacksmith") directs.  [Probably a good deal more serious than it
sounds at first hearing.  Schepisi is an Australian with a very good critical
reputation, and Hutton is still hot enough to avoid trash.  Some stills I've
seen of the makeup look very good.] (Universal)

"Ice Pirates"
	Pirates-in-outer-space story with Robert Urich and Mary Crosby.
(MGM/UA)

"Le Dernier Combat"
	Four survivors of a planetary catastrophe band together to make a last
stand for the human race.  [surprise, surprise: another French film] (Triumph/
Columbia)

"Splash"
	Ron Howard directs a comedy about a man's love affair with a mermaid.
John Candy and Daryl Hannah star. [Looks like Disney strikes out again]
(Walt Disney Pictures)

May/June

"Firestarter"
	Adaptation of Stephen King's novel about a little girl (Drew Barrymore)
who turns her fear into a weapon.  WIth George C. Scott, Martin Sheen, and
David Keith. (Universal)

"Gremlins"
	Joe Dante ["It's a Good Life" segment of "The Twilight Zone: The Movie"]
directs a Steven Spielberg production about a cute but malevolent creature.
With Phoebe Cates [That brilliant actress who distinguished herself by not 
showing her breasts in "Private School"] (Warner Bros.)

"Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom"
	Harrison Ford and Kate Capshaw have cliffhanging adventures in this
"prequel" to "Raiders of the Lost Ark".  Steven Spielberg directs.  [The trailer
for this looks good, but not as good as Raiders'.  It seems to be set mostly in
the far east, and apparently features a kid sidekick, which could be a mistake.
I'm suspicious of prequels.]  (Paramount)

"The Philidelphia Experiment"
	A top-secret World War II military experiment is brought to life in
this time travel adventure.  With Michael Pare and Nancy Allen.  (New World)
[For those not up on movie studios, New World was Roger Corman's old stomping
grounds, and specialized in cheap exploitation films, from beach blanket stuff
to Poe ripoffs, with stopoffs at motorcycle films and topless nurse and student
teacher films, and, of course, the ever popular fifties alien invasion films.
Many of them were fairly amusing.]

"Red Dawn"
	John Milius [who directed "Conan the Barbarian" and "The Wind and the
Lion"] directs a story of a group of innocents forced into armed resistence 
against an invasion of the U.S.  With Patrick Swayze, C. Thomas Howell and
Powers Booth.  [Milius would have preferred living in the Middle Ages, when
he would have had more chances to kill people in hand-to-hand combat.  His films
reflect this sensibility, for better or worse.]  (MGM/UA)

"Star Trek III:  The Search For Spock"
	The continuing adventures of the Starship Enterprise and the search
for Mr. Spock.  With William Shatner, James Doohan, DeForest Kelley, and
Dame Judith Anderson. [And Christopher Lloyd, of "Taxi", as the villain.]
Directed by Leonard Nimoy.  (Paramount) [Looks like a big summer for Paramount]

"Streets of Fire"
	Diane Lane and Michael Pare in a rock and roll fantasy about a soldier
of fortune.  Walter Hill ("48 HRS.") directs.  [Coming attractions look really
good, provided you don't mind a lot of violence.]  (Universal)

July/August

"All of Me"
	One of the world's richest women, who is dying, arranges to have her
soul transformed into the body of a younger, healthier woman.   Steve Martin,
Lily Tomlin, and Victoria Tennant star.  Carl Reiner directs.  [A comedy, if
you haven't already guessed, which sounds like it owes something to Spielberg's
segment of the "Night Gallery" pilot.]  (Universal)

"Conan, Prince of Thieves"
	Sequel to "Conan the Barbarian", again starring Arnold Schwarzeneger.
With Wilt Chamberlain and Grace Jones.  Richard Fleischer directs the Dino de
Laurentiis production.  [Fleischer has a reputation as a hack director of 
limited talents.]  (Universal)

"The Neverending Story"
	A boy's odyssey into a timeless world of fantastic beings.  Wolfgang
Petersen ("Das Boot") directs.  [Based on a current best seller which has
already cleaned up in Europe and Japan, this German film has the largest
budget in German film history.]  (Warner Bros.)

"Night of the Comet"
	A science fiction comedy about two sisters and the coming of a 
fabulous comet.  (Atlantic)

"Sheena of the Jungle"
	Tanya Roberts ("Charlie's Angels") in a feminine twist on Tarzan.
(Columbia)

"Baby"
	A professor [Fred MacMurray?] and his wife discover a baby dinosaur
in Africa.  [Sounds like Disney's going to take a bath this year.]  (Disney)

"Dune"
	Based on Frank Herbert's science fiction novel about mile-long 
monsters that devour manlike insects.  Max von Sydow and Sting star.  David
Lynch directs.  [Hey, I'm just copying this stuff, not making it up.  As I
recollect, Sydow is playing Liet Kynes and Sting is Baron Harkonnen's 
beloved nephew.  Lynch is a brilliant stylist and the stills look great.]
(Universal)

"Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes"
	is about Tarzan's boyhood, his repatriation to British aristocracy,
and his return to the jungle.  Ralph Richardson, Christopher Lambert, and
Ian Holm star.  Hugh Hudson ("Chariots of Fire") directs.  [This is a real
labor of love for Hudson, whose been trying to film it for a very long time.
The actor playing Tarzan is French, which makes a lot of sense for those who've
read the original book.  The trailer looks impressive and faithful.]
(Warner Bros.)

"Ladyhawke"
	Richard Donner ("Superman") directs a tale of romance and magic in
the Middle Ages.  With Rutger Hauer[chief android in "Blade Runner"], Matthew
Broderick [from "War Games"], and Michelle Pfeiffer.  [Also, John Wood, the
scientist in "War Games", as an evil bishop.  Donner has been trying to downplay
the sword and sorcery elements, figuring it will be bad for business what with
the entries in that genre of the last couple years, but it's obviously fantasy.
There's a lengthy and interesting article on this $16 million film in the same
issue of The L.A. Times Calender that has this information.]  (Warner Bros.)

"Starman"
	Love story with a science fiction background produced by Michael
Douglas.  (Columbia)

"2010"
	Sequel to "2001: A Space Odyssey".  Peter Hyams directs this return
to Jupitor's moons to learn the fate of astronaut David Bowman and HAL the
computer.  [Hyams ("Capricorn One") is no great shakes as a director.  Keir
Dullea has signed, and I think they got hold of the actor who dubbed HAL's
lines, as well.]  (MGM/UA)

No release date

"Dream One"
	A ten-year-old boy is magically transported to a strange dream world.
With Nipsey Russell and Harvey Keitel. [Talk about your odd couples.]
(Columbia)

"Heaven Sent"
	Herbert Ross ("The Turning Point") directs a story of a youth who
time-trips himself backwards until he and his parents are the same age.
(Embassy)

"Supergirl"
	Superman's cousin, Kara (Helen Slater), clashes with a sorceress.
Also starring Peter O'Toole, Faye Dunaway, and Mia Farrow.  Jeannot Szwarc
("Somewhere in Time") directs.  [Szwarc was the director who sank "Jaws II".
Another hack.]  (Warner Bros.)

"visionQuest"
	A youth searches for adulthood.  Matthew Modine and Linda Fiorentinno
star.  [Might not be sf/fantasy, but the title sure sounds like it.]  (Warner
Bros.)

	The chances are good that a few of these films will never be released,
or perhaps even made.  The list the Times published last year contained at
least a dozen films which didn't come out.  Some were delayed, and some 
cancelled.  The same might happen with a few of these.  It's also my painful
duty to point out the possibility that "Santa Claus", from the Salskynd brothers
who brought you Supermans I-III, may be out by next Christmas.  They have an
unpleasant habit of following through on their threats, so we may yet see
Dudley Moore as one of Santa's elves.  

						Peter Reiher

8.11REGINA::AUGERISun Jan 22 1984 12:477
RE: 8.8 and 8.9

I have read 2010 and although I agree that it may have a hard time living
up to 2001, I thought the story was quite interesting.  I had a hard time
relating the two plots, but I liked the story in its own right.

	Mike
8.12NACHO::LYNCHWed Apr 11 1984 10:5644
Some info on new movies from SF-LOVERS:

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Date: 2 Apr 84 12:55:58-PST (Mon)
From: ihnp4!houxm!mhuxl!abnjh!cbspt005 @ Ucb-Vax
Subject: Re: MOVIE RELEASE SCHEDULE
 
Conan II has been retitled 'CONAN THE DESTROYER', stars Arnold
Schwarzenegger (of course), Wilt Chamberlain and Grace Jones(!) and
opens July 6.
 
Supergirl starring Faye Dunaway, Peter O'Toole, Mia Farrow and
introducing Helen Slater in the title role has been pushed back a
week to July 13.
 
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Date: 8 Apr 1984 22:45:55 PST
Subject: Time Bandits Sequel and FireStarter
From: Alan R. Katz <KATZ@USC-ISIF>
 
According to the May issue of Moviegoer magazine (freebee mag):
 
George Orwell meets Monty Python occurs in Terry Gilliam's new film,
"Brazil."  This film is supposedly the second film in the Time
Bandits trilogy.  It is set in a society ruled by the Ministry of
Information, a Big Brother style bureaucracy which supposedly exists
in Christmas, 1984 (which is when the film is scheduled for
release).  "Brazil" stars Michael Palin, Ian Holm, Katherine
Helmond, and a cameo by Robert De Niro.
 
In true Pythonesque fashion, the film has nothing to do with South
America.
 
Also, Stephen King's Firestarter (which is really more of a science
fiction novel than horror) is being made into a movie, the lead role
is being played by Drew Barrymore.  It is currently being filmed.
 
                                Alan
 
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-- Bill
8.13EDEN::MAXSONWed Apr 11 1984 18:044
	Ya-HOOOO! Firestarter was a dynamite novel, I like Drew Barrymore,
	I groove on Terry Gilliam, and Supergirl... Well, three out of
	four ain't bad.
8.14NACHO::CONLIFFEMon Apr 16 1984 01:037
re: Firestarter.

Yes, but the character of John Rainbird (one of the more interesting
in the book) has been given to George C Scott.  Can Scott play a one-eyed
Indian? or have certain liberties been taken with the book?

N
8.15ORPHAN::LIONELMon Apr 16 1984 18:375
Another interesting point about Firestarter is that, supposedly, a
DEC Rainbow appears in the film.  If the Rainbow's cameo appearance is 
anything like the one on "Found Money", a TV film of last year, the
Rainbow should find another agent.
				Steve
8.16MANANA::DICKSONMon Apr 23 1984 11:557
I saw the trailer for "Temple of Doom" this weekend (when I went to see
`Moscow on the Hudson', not SF, but highly recommended). 

The scenes go by pretty fast, so it was hard to get a feel for it. The
major confrontation appears to be in a large stone room with a pit in the
floor.  Flames come out of the pit, and people get lowered into it.  Looks
like some sort of cult with which Indiana Jones does battle. 
8.17NWD002::FSSUGMon Nov 19 1984 02:333
 Has anyone heard when "Battlefield Earth" based on the great book is going
to be released?? To do this book true credit would probably be prohibitivly
expensive and one can't help think that it will be hacked in movie form.