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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
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2178.0. "What would you do w/ $300" by COMET::VOITL () Thu Jan 30 1992 21:24

    Hey I need help anyone and everyone,
    Problem1: I have $300 to spend on mtb rims.
    Problem2: WHAT DO I WANT?
    Idea1-1000: Mavic 231 silver or anaodized rims?
                Alloy nipples (for sure)
                14-15  spokes?
                15-16 spokes?
                15 ga. spokes?
                Nuke Proof hubs?
                Shimano xt front/dx rear hubs (according to Shimino 92
                catalog this mixture is the lightest next to XTR)?
                What cassette?
                Ritchey Z-Max or Smoke (kevlar) or wait for Panaracer Darts
                Or what else??
    I dont know what I want.  As you all can see I am trying to get them
    real lite but strong.  I weigh 150 lbs. and LOVE TO HAMMER my bike.
    Suggestions PLEASE (especially about Nuke Proof hubs). 
    Thanx in advance!  
                     Keep Pedallin'
                           Bob
    
    P.S. I can get the parts at wholesale.
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2178.1you want what????WLDWST::SANTOS_EMon Feb 03 1992 13:564
    try radial front it looks good .
    I would go 14/15 butted spokes 32 hole.
    anodized rims will just scratch any ways.
    philwood type hubs . last forever yes?
2178.2Saavedra/Wheelsmith/CampagnoloSHALOT::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredTue Feb 04 1992 19:1923
    My answer might be what I'm half through building now:
    
      - Saavedra rims (non-anodized)
      - Campagnolo *old-style* Record hubs
      - Wheelsmith spokes, bladed (front) and double-butted (rear)
    
    (28-hole front and rear)
    
    RE: Ed Santos - yes, Radial looks cool; I am going with 2-cross
        front for the added strength (I hope) - but it should be a light,
        quick, wheel, nonetheless.
    
    The Campy hubs are special order, based on years of good experience
    with these hubs - next-to-no rolling resistance, and very durable.
    (I didn't know they were still made, but I guess so.  The box was
    old-style cream-colored with red lettering, not the new blue on white.)
    
    -john
    
    PS: It's an extra challenge to build up these rims - they save weight
    by eliminating an inner layer, and instead provide kind of rectangular
    washers which you must slip down onto the spoke, without letting them
    get lost in the (deep, aero) interwall gap.  :-)
2178.3Down on radialCIMNET::MJOHNSONMatt JohnsonWed Feb 05 1992 08:284
    Go two-cross; don't use radial unless you have LOTS of spare
    spokes.
    
    MATT
2178.4Up on radialGRIND::PJOHNSONWed Feb 05 1992 11:435
    I have a front wheel that's radial laced and I haven't had any
    problems.  The few people a know with a radial front wheel haven't
    had any problems either.
    
    Phil
2178.50X for MTB?NOVA::FISHERRdb/VMS DinosaurWed Feb 05 1992 13:063
    .0 is looking for MTB rims.  Does anyone use radially laced MTB rims?
    
    ed
2178.6Didn't Mark give up on his radially-laced front wheel?BRMUDA::MJOHNSONMatt JohnsonWed Feb 05 1992 13:103
    re: .4
    
    Phil, do you happen to know Mark Reid?
2178.7HOSHI BLADESGRIND::PJOHNSONWed Feb 05 1992 16:175
    re: .6
    
    Matt, I think he gave up on Hoshi (sp?) bladed spokes.
    
    Phil
2178.8Nuke ProofWMOIS::FLYE_NWed Feb 05 1992 19:238
    
      Sometime this month Nuke Proof will be releasing there cassette hubs
    in both Ti and carbon fiber.  Presently they offer both materials in
    only standard freewheel versions.  Very light with cartridge bearings.
    
    							Norm
    
    
2178.9thanksCOMET::VOITLWed Feb 05 1992 20:593
    Thanx for the suggestions.  I'll let you know what I do.
                                        Keep Pedallin'  
                                                 Bob
2178.10Campag MTB rims anyone?MINDER::CARMICHAELPNatural, freshly squeezedThu Feb 06 1992 11:5617
    I have a related question...
    
    Anyone seen/tried Campag Contax rims? In a recent UK magazine survey,
    the Contax rims were identified as just about the strongest in the
    whole group (of ~30 rims incl. Vantage Expert/Comp, 231CD, Matrix
    Singletrack, various Araya ...). Not only this, but I seem to remember
    they were just about the lightest (440g). 
    
    The only drawbacks I can identify are the narrow section of the rim
    (how will 2.1+ tyres be on these), and the small diameter valve hole
    which would probably only accomodate a Presta valve.
    
    Even though prices for compnts in the UK are getting on for double
    those in the U.S., Campag prices tend to be more competitive against
    the cost of U.S. imports.   
    
    Thanx in advance for any componentry commentry, Pete.
2178.11Presta questionSHALOT::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredThu Feb 06 1992 12:427
    
    I've seen Contax rims, but can't give any hard facts on them.
    
    Is Presta-only a problem in the UK?  Presta is all you'd think
    of using on that type of rim or wheel in the US.
    
    -john
2178.12They look funny, but they work OKCIMNET::MJOHNSONMatt JohnsonThu Feb 06 1992 17:044
    Narrow MTB rims are popular on high-end bikes in the U.S., even when 
    tires are wide.  
    
    MATT
2178.13the proof of the pudding is in the eatingDOGONE::WOODBURYThu Feb 06 1992 18:0012
    I bent both my Richey Vantage Comp rims (it's a hell of a trail!)
    and replaced them with the Campy Contax - I think they are great.
    They have held up to the same abuse for 1/2 year now with no ill
    effects.  Also, the brake surface has a concave shape wich tends
    to self-align the brake pads as they wear.  A nice feature that
    really works.  The narrow profile caused just a little 'soggyness'
    on the turns, but I added about 5 lbs of pressure and the side-
    walls stiffened right up, so it's really no problem.
    
    go for it!
    
    mark
2178.14Drill itCOMET::VOITLThu Feb 06 1992 19:018
    Hey UK,
    If you do not want Presta valves you can drill the stem hole with a
    5/16 inch drill bit to accomadate the Schrader type stem. I think it is
    5/16 inch drill bit??
    
    What do these Campy Contax rims cost in the U.S?
                         Keep Pedallin'     
                               Bob
2178.15AyeeeMINDER::CARMICHAELPNatural, freshly squeezedFri Feb 07 1992 04:314
    I think I'd rather have my root canal drilled than a new set of Campag
    rims   :*#
    
    I like the +ve feedback  :*)    Wallet at the ready...
2178.16pricesDOGONE::WOODBURYFri Feb 07 1992 11:388
    Prices: about $175 laced up with Deore XT, rim alone ~$33
    
    Hole Drilling - I'd go for the molars first, too... The rims
    really arn't wide enough for schraders.  Personally, I like
    the Prestas, but then again, I can't put my trick dice valve 
    caps on...  
    
    mud-man mark