Conference noted::bicycle

     What kind of shoes... are they cycling (cleated/clips) shoes?
    
    
     Might they need an adjustment?
    
        Chip

    
    
      Sounds to me like it might be your pedaling style.
    
      It is very possible that when you stand up and rock the bike you
    may be shifting all the force that you are applying to the outside of
    your foot.  Next time you get out of the saddle on a hill consciously
    check how your feet are inside the shoe.  If you notice that you tend
    to pedal on the outside of your feet than that could be the problem.
    
    Hope this made a little sense.
    
    John C.
    

    
    re: .1  I don't think that it is the shoe.  I originally thought that 
    the problem was tennis-shoes in toe clips, but the problem persisted
    after I went to Shimano 105 pedals and Look shoes. The stiffer sole 
    didn't help. I set the shoes up with the red arc cleats, being careful
    to adjust the range of motion so that it doesn't hurt my knees. I 
    positioned the ball of my foot over the center ("axle") of the pedal.
    It could still be the foreward/rearward postion of the cleat.
    
    re: .2  That is a possibility. I kind of thought that I was doing as
    you said, or perhaps unconsciously trying to "stand/pedal" on the ball
    of my foot.... kind of like a baby learning to walk. The ache has 
    definitely lessened over the last 500 miles, and I usually don't feel
    it the day after a ride... so it could that my foot was weak and 
    is now getting stronger. 
    
    I was hoping that someone else had experienced this !
    
    doug
    

    
    Internal bruises can take a while to go away.  So if you're reporting
    gradual improvement, it may be for this reason (a positive sign).
    
    -john

I was getting a sore left foot on long rides earlier this season, and changed
shoes. When I got the new shoes I found my previous cleat position was too
far forward. Anyway, with better shoes and cleat positioning it's not a 
significant problem now.


Rod

I'm not a cyclist but I do run and have had soem experience with feet problems.
I don't know if this is related but there is a condition known as plantar 
fasciitis which is a common overuse problem with runners and maybe it could be
related to cycling as well.  The plantar fasciia runs from the heel to the 
toes and is like a tendon.  If this is overstressed it can become inflamed
and cause soreness.  The symptoms feel like a bruise inthe heel that is at its
worse when you first get up inthe morning or after sitting for a long spell and 
feels better after using it.  

Jim

    I had exactly the same problem.  It is when I had toe clips and cleats.
    I solved the problem at that time, somewhat, by orthotics.  Dr.
    Jonathan Scarlet in Worcester did them.  Excellent podiatrist.
    
    Now that I am using the Time system, both shoes and pedals, the problem
    has eliminated itself completely.  Not sure if it is the boat anchor...
    I mean shoe, or the pedals.  
    
    steve

    
    BTW , the foot pain that I described in the base note went away over
    the winter (much less use?) and has not returned. Looks like rest
    was all that was really needed. 
    
    doug
    

    In the early spring, a sore tendon on the back/inside of my right knee
    and a sore left foot (arch) appeared as I increased the intensity and
    duration of my road rides.  Years of running experience told me to
    replace 1.5 year old cycling shoes.  That indeed solved the problem 
    with gradual improvement felt each day.

    There are also some excellent inserts on the market.
    
    Chip