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Conference noted::bicycle

Title:	Bicycling
Notice:	Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:	JAMIN::WASSER

Created:	Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3214
Total number of notes:	31946

2106.0. "Shimano XTR - new top-line ATB group" by RUTILE::MACFADYEN () Wed Oct 09 1991 04:50

Received some bumf from Freewheel the other day and among things it talks
about a new top-line ATB component group from Shimano. What it says is:

"Shimano XTR - the lightest Shimano off-road group, featuring the new 8-speed
cassette system, and improved shift performance from Rapidfire Plus double 
finger shifting system. 

"Special attention was given to the front gear change, leading to the concept
of a new concept of shift performance - SHD - Shimano Hyper Drive. The result
is a light, super smooth and fast gear change. With SHD, the crankset and
chainrings are redesigned and mounted onto a cartridge bottom bracket for
improved performance and durability.

"First deliveries are expected for November 91."


There you go. Some new toys to spend yer money on.


Rod

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2106.1	Then there's...	BENONI::SOFIO		`Wed Oct 09 1991 16:24`	8
	Suntour's Microdrive- supposed to be the lightest MTB drive train available. The big '92 bike show just finished up in Cal a week or so ago. Prepare yourself for the marketing onslaught... Ed
2106.2	EUROBIKE 91	FLYWAY::WIEDLER	his excuses are an art	`Thu Oct 10 1991 06:10`	27
	The EUROBIKE 91 trade fair just finished (in Friedrichshafen, Swiss/German border). All the major companies showed their '92 stuff. Shimanos XTR with special hooks on the chainrings to provide faster and smoother chain "lifting". The rear rings have holes (lighter!) and are mounted on a alu "spider arm". I heard the XTR group is supposed to be about twice the price of the XT.... nice toy.... Campa and Suntour go for the new small "Micro-Drive"/"Compact-Drive". The Suntour XC Pro MD group is about 250 gramms lighter than the old XC Pro: smaller chainrings - 20/32/42 at the front, 11-24 at the back, shorter chain, very short rear derailleur cage... Suntour has now a Hyperglide-like system called "Power-Flo". They also have a new underbar Y-shaped thumb/finger shifter. The big EUROBIKE 91 trend for 92: Suspension bikes... from TREK, SCOTT, MERLIN, SPECIALIZED, K2, Muddy Fox... I heard bike prices in Europe will go up generally about 10% due to high $ and Yen. But Cannondale will be about 10% cheaper: Now they assemble their bikes in Europe which saves tax and freight costs. Felix. now in Europe as well.
2106.3	are there trade-offs?	SHALOT::ELLIS	John Lee Ellis - assembly required	`Thu Oct 10 1991 08:44`	8
	I've been reading about the micro-drive stuff. If this is such a good idea, why hasn't it been tried before? I'm not poo-pooing the idea, but is there an engineer in the house that can describe whether there are trade-offs to that idea ... e.g., more wear and tear on smaller cogs? (I don't know, just guessing.) -john
2106.4		VOGON::REEVE	Have you been licking toads again?	`Fri Oct 11 1991 05:07`	27
	>================================================================================ >Note 2106.2 Shimano XTR - new top-line ATB group 2 of 3 >FLYWAY::WIEDLER "his excuses are an art" 27 lines 10-OCT-1991 05:10 >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I heard bike prices in Europe will go up generally about 10% due to > high $ and Yen. But Cannondale will be about 10% cheaper: Now they > assemble their bikes in Europe which saves tax and freight costs. > > Felix. > Just as well, really. Their prices in the U.K. are already more than 10% higher than most other bikes imported into the U.K.! e.g. Specialized Stumpjumper $600 �600 Cannondale SM-700 $700 �800 Can you guess which one I bought into the U.K. from the U.S.? Still, the Cannondale idea sounds like a good one. Lots of car companies started off doing the same sort of thing. Maybe we'll see bike companies building factories around different parts of the world to get around import restrictions? It sounds more like the world I want to live in. One small pedal rotation for humankind. Tim
2106.5		MORLEY::REEDER	Joe Reeder	`Wed Jun 17 1992 05:58`	2
	dir
2106.6		SHALOT::ELLIS	John Lee Ellis - assembly required	`Wed Jun 17 1992 21:39`	7
	In the tradition of the GSW President, let me second .-1 and assert that I wholeheartedly agree. It's so true, so true. -john
2106.7		MOVIES::WIDDOWSON	Its (IO$_ACCESS\|IO$M_ACCESS) VMS	`Thu Jun 18 1992 04:19`	2
	Thanks John. Good to know that someone's keeping on top of Ed's work...
2106.8		JURA::PELAZ::MACFADYEN	feet down below his knees	`Thu Jun 18 1992 05:14`	2
	Re .6: I couldn't agree less, John. I totally disagree with the viewpoint expressed in .5.
2106.9	Yes. Absolutely not.	MOVIES::PAXTON	Ali Baba (TM) was a marketeer	`Thu Jun 18 1992 06:05`	3
	re .*: I agree with everything, except where it puts up my taxes. ---Alan
2106.10	Obviously a Luddite	ROCKS::ROBINSON	Twitching the night away...	`Thu Jun 18 1992 07:19`	4
	Re .5 Surely he means "ls" ? Chris