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1876.1 | weak guesses | SHALOT::ELLIS | John Lee Ellis - assembly required | Mon Mar 11 1991 16:59 | 14 |
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A na�ve question: is the C-Record equipment indexed at all?
(Doesn't sound like it.)
This actually happened to me this morning, after I cleaned/lubricated
my chain and cleaned the freewheel. Very same thing. Maybe it's
seasonal or lunar. Seriously, I guess it's not likely that the
freewheel cogs are *too* slick (lubricated)?
The only thing I can think of at that position is that the chain angle
is relatively straight, but I don't know why that would make a
difference.
-john
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1876.2 | YEAH, LUNAR GETS MY VOTE | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Mon Mar 11 1991 18:02 | 8 |
| Hi John... Nope, none indexed. It's a weird one. I have never
encountered this one before. You'd think that, with the chain in
such a straight line of travel (as opposed to angled when in smaller
cogs) the problem would show up on the "cross-chained" 39x12 combo.
I think you're right... It might be lunar (certainly not linear).
Chip
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1876.3 | Technology strikes back!! | IDEFIX::HEMMINGS | Lanterne Rouge | Tue Mar 12 1991 03:52 | 5 |
| I think it's the new, wireless, leg strength evaluator which is fitted
on all new top of the range Italian mechs. It instantaneously decides whether
or not you are capable of turning a 53 x 12, if not, it stops you using it. You
will probably be OK for 39 x 12, but I suggest more training.......
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1876.4 | WHIMPY JAR F/W? | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Tue Mar 12 1991 07:01 | 10 |
| Geesh, I wish they'd put all these new technical advances into
the literature with the components and put a lid on wise-cracking
NOTERS :-)... Actually I ran a 53x42 last year and wanted to try
a little more range. I also ran a 6spd f/w and went to a 7spd on
this machine.
Could it be the Japanese (D/A) f/w is just whimping out me? I ran
Reginas for the last two years and never had this problem before...
Chip :-)
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1876.5 | Can't be the Merlin... | CTHQ3::FRERE | Ellas Danzan Solas | Tue Mar 12 1991 08:57 | 6 |
| Chip,
It sounds like a chain line problem. It's hard to evaluate without
seeing the bike. See a mechanic is my 2�.
Eric
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1876.6 | try these | AD::CRANE | I'd rather be on my bicycle | Tue Mar 12 1991 09:00 | 13 |
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A couple of possibilities Chip.
Try adusting chain tension. The chain may be a bit to long or short.
The other possibility is the amount of chain wrap your getting around
the freewheel may not be enough. If this is ajustable on C-record
deraileurs try getting as much wrap as possible. A 12 tooth sprocket
is pretty small.
John C.
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1876.7 | Probably not the kind of thing you want to hear right now...
| ROSSIN::WAGNER | | Tue Mar 12 1991 11:00 | 10 |
| As someone who experienced a similar problem with a new frame, you might want
to have the alignement of the changer hanger checked. There is a slick little
tool for checking and adjusting this, and it is somewhat common for this to
be an alignment problem, as it is likely to be bumped on a bare frame.
I take my bikes to Peter White in Acton periodically for an alignment check.
It can make a world of difference in not only shifting, but handling, which is
a little more obvious.
Jim
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1876.8 | Not too familiar with C-Record myself | RUTILE::MACFADYEN | Wasp in a blender | Tue Mar 12 1991 11:50 | 8 |
| Is there anything on C-Record like Shimano's b-tension adjustment
screw? This is a little screw on the rear derailleur, bearing on the
derailleur hanger, that adjust how close the upper jockey wheel runs to
the freewheel sprockets. The idea is to get the jockey wheel as close
as possible without actually rubbing.
Rod
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1876.9 | THANKS | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Tue Mar 12 1991 12:59 | 3 |
| Thanks for the inputs... I'll check 'em out and update you.
Chip
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1876.10 | FIXED... SORTA | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Thu Mar 14 1991 06:54 | 6 |
| Well, I fixed the shifting problem. I went back to my 6sp Regina.
Shifts like a champ now... I got by last year with it very well.
I'm sure I'll do fine this year. I'll just wait until I build
my Campy 8sp hubs and buy their new derailleur... :-)
Chip
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1876.11 | While your at it, go all the way. | NEMAIL::DELORIEA | Resurrect the DEC Bike Club | Thu Mar 14 1991 10:32 | 12 |
| >> Well, I fixed the shifting problem. I went back to my 6sp Regina.
>> Shifts like a champ now...
Chip,
I had the same problem with my "winter beater" Centurion. I found the solution
very similar to what you did on your Merlin.
I removed my front and rear derailleurs. Built a fixed gear wheel and I now
have no problems with shifting. ;-)
Tom 42-17
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1876.12 | | ROWLET::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow! | Mon Aug 02 1993 10:18 | 8 |
| My daughter's SIS equiped Schwinn Frontier MTB is upshifting by itself. If
she had friction shift, I'd say the shifter on the downtube needs tightening,
but she has thumb shifters. Do I want to tighten the screw on the shifter,
or do I need to look elsewhere?
Thanks,
Bob
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1876.13 | Imagine 2 arms waving in desperation... | ROWLET::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow! | Tue Aug 03 1993 15:24 | 7 |
| After spending $180 to recover from my stupid bike trick, I really don't have
the money to put Nicole's bike in the shop, so could someone please tell me
how to troubleshoot the unwanted autoshifting problem in .12.
Thanks,
Bob
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1876.14 | Possible Fixes(?) | ODIXIE::RRODRIGUEZ | Whiskey! ALL you want! | Tue Aug 03 1993 15:40 | 10 |
| Bob,
-The cable tension could be off in the derailleur cable (too tight?).
-The limit screw(s) could be in too tight (longfshot).
-Check the cable path for obstructions (twigs and such)
and lubrication.
r�
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1876.15 | | NOVA::FISHER | US Patent 5225833 | Wed Aug 04 1993 08:16 | 8 |
| -The cable may have stretched causing pulley to cog alignment to
be just a little bit off and allowing it to shift sometimes.
-The shifter may be broken.
.02� worth.
ed
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1876.16 | Ain't technology WONDERFUL? | NCBOOT::PEREZ | Trust, but ALWAYS verify! | Wed Aug 04 1993 10:33 | 10 |
| I'm voting with Ed. The cable stretch could cause some interesting
shifting.
Also, if the cable is binding it could cause the shift to be
delayed (shifter is calling for 3rd gear, rider thinks its in 2nd gear,
eventually the derailleur pulls the slack out of the cable and
upshifts)?
Clean it, lube it, make sure everything move freely, adjust the cable
to be sure it is centered on the freewheel cogs.
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1876.17 | could be the shifter | BICYCL::RYER | This note made from 100% recycled bits. | Wed Aug 04 1993 11:21 | 9 |
| Bob, is it shifting all the way up to the highest gear no matter what gear
your daughter shifts it to? If so, tighten the screw on the shifter. On a
ride with my daughter once, I noticed that she was shifting an awful lot.
When I asked why she kept shifting to her hardest gear, she said, "I'm not
doing it, the bike's doing it all by itself." A minute's inspection showed
that the screw on the shifter (also a Schwinn MTB, with the shfter mounted on
the handle bar) was loose. I tightened it down, and no more problems.
-Patrick
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1876.18 | Will check ASAP | ROWLET::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow! | Wed Aug 04 1993 17:28 | 8 |
| re: .17
I don't know. I haven't had time to look at it. My replacement cateye showed
up and I've been busy getting the bike ready for tonight's ride.
Thanks for the help.
Bob
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