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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

1858.0. "Tandem Racing Info Needed" by CTHQ2::FRERE (Ellas Danzan Solas) Wed Feb 27 1991 22:33

    Does anybody have a list of bike races to be held this season for the 
    Northeast?  And more specifically, any USCF and citizen races that will
    allow tandems.  I doubt that we would be allowed in crits but TTs and
    RRs (average or long distance) is a possibility...  We want to put as
    many race miles possible.
    
    Eric and Nancy
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1858.1Ditto!WMOIS::N_FLYEThu Feb 28 1991 04:5610
    
    Funny, I was going to ask the same question.  I finished building the 
    tandem up and took it out for a spin with one of my partners.  22mph
    average for 24 miles.  Can't wait for the race season to start.
    
    Anybody have a schedule?
    
    						Norm
    
    
1858.2District/National TT'sUSMRM5::MREIDThu Feb 28 1991 17:2611
    The USCF District TT now has a division for Tandem;
    I believe also different divisions for female/male/mixed.
    
    I also heard that the NATIONALS will also have a Tandem TT
    category.  No idea how to qualify for Nationals (on a Tandem).
    
    Qualification for Nationals for individual TT has changed this
    year:	SR men: 57:00  Sr Women: 60:00   at any USCF 40k
    TT with proper measurement & paperwork.
    
    Mark
1858.3Citizen class at USCF districts?BCSE::KLASMANALL-IN-1 DESKtop for PCs. dtn 381-0731Fri Mar 01 1991 07:584
Since you mentioned USCF Districts, do they offer a Citizen's class along with
the licensed classes?  Thought I heard that they do.

Kevin
1858.4Citizen Class in TTUSMRM5::MREIDFri Mar 01 1991 12:5116
    Kevin,
    
    Lasy year the (MA/RI) District TT was promoted by the District Rep
    Tom Vinson.  The was a Citizen class; in other words, they would take
    your $10, and give you an 'official' time.  No awards or anything for
    Citizens though. We had a couple citizen riders from our club do it ...
    
    This year the event will be promoted by Cadence Events, not Vinson.
    I just put a call into Hal Miller @ Cadence Events (508)674-8921 and
    got an answering machine.  When I connect & get info around the citizen
    class I'll post it here.
    
    I know of many triathletes (non-USCF) that are interested in riding
    just to get their 40k time.
    
    Mark 
1858.5DISTRICT TT infoUSMRM5::MREIDFri Mar 01 1991 14:3021
    Hal Miller from Cadence Events promptly called me back; here's the
    scoop on the (MA/RI) District TT:
    
    o ANYBODY can ride: including Citizen, USCF, mountain bikes, tandem ...
    o Entry fee will remain at $10.
    o Awards (medals to top 3) & prizes will be awarded to M/F in each
      category, and within each age-group of each category.
    o Three Citizen age groups will be <18,18-34,35+ (same for female)
    o Tandem category may/may-not be broken M/M,F/F,M/F depending on how
      many tandems show.  Around 25 tandems and he'll break into 3 above
      categories.
    o Out-of-District (non MA/RI) USCF racers are welcome.
    o Hal is working with Vinson & others to produce a "District 
      Champion" Jersey for the top USCF rider(s), and that rider can wear 
      the jersey all year, and have FREE entry into USCF races.
    
    I'm on his mailing list, so when I get more details around the
    registration process, start times, exact course (pancake course
    near SMU I hear) I'll communicate.
    
    Mark
1858.6When?BCSE::KLASMANALL-IN-1 DESKtop for PCs. dtn 381-0731Sat Mar 02 1991 09:526
Mark,

Do you have a date for this event?

Kevin

1858.7TT TimeUSMRM5::MREIDMon Mar 04 1991 17:011
    MA/RI District TT will be Sunday June 2.
1858.8I'll be doing a "different" TT that day, er, weekend :^)BCSE::KLASMANALL-IN-1 DESKtop for PCs. dtn 381-0731Tue Mar 05 1991 07:453
Too bad... I'll be doing a 24-hr TT that weekend.  Looking for 400+ miles...

Kevin
1858.9What 24hr TT?CTHQ3::FREREEllas Danzan SolasTue Mar 05 1991 08:215
    Kevin,
    
    What TT are you doing and will it be tandem?
    
    Eric
1858.10Bud Light Challenge 24-hr TT, June 1-2, 1991BCSE::KLASMANALL-IN-1 DESKtop for PCs. dtn 381-0731Tue Mar 05 1991 14:059
Eric,

Its the Bud Light Challenge in Johnstown, NY.  It will be on the same course 
used for the RAAM Open East in September.  A must do event.  No tandem; I'm 
going solo this year (primarily).  Hope to see you there...

Do you know about the PBP brevets?

Kevin
1858.11More on 24-hr ttBCSE::KLASMANALL-IN-1 DESKtop for PCs. dtn 381-0731Tue Mar 05 1991 14:085
I forgot to mention, we did this one last year on the tandem, and I'm sure
they'll allow them, although there probably won't be a class (we were the first,
and only :^)

Kevin
1858.12Tandems in NY!!CTHQ3::FREREEllas Danzan SolasWed Mar 06 1991 11:255
    I'd like to do the 24 hr in NY.  Will discuss it with my stoker...
    
    PBP Brevets??
    
    ric
1858.13PBP qualifiersSHALOT::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredWed Mar 06 1991 18:0715
    
    The Paris-Brest-Paris brevets are a series of qualifiers for that
    event.  They are 200km, 300km, 400km, and 600km in length, spaced
    a couple of weeks apart, starting in probably April out of Boston
    and other times elsewhere (for example, January in Bamberg SC).
    
    There is also a 1000km last-ditch qualifier out of Boston in early
    summer, I think.
    
    They are quite challenging courses, some of them - certainly the
    ones out of Boston, and the 400km and 600km require fenders and
    lighting.  If Kevin doesn't beat me to it, I'll post the dates.
    Perhaps this deserves a separate note?
    
    -john
1858.14Yes, we need a PBP 1991 noteBCSE::KLASMANALL-IN-1 DESKtop for PCs. dtn 381-0731Thu Mar 07 1991 08:0014
The PBP brevets and BMB (Boston-Montreal-Boston) brevets are one and the same 
thing.  This year, since PBP is being held (every 4 years) its the PBP brevets.  
In the three years between PBPs, BMB is held, and thus they're BMB brevets.  But
its all the same events, although there's a 1000k this year only, per PBP rules.

Yes John, there should be a separate PBP 1991 note.  One of us will start that 
note and enter a schedule.  I'll cover the northeast.  John, why don't you cover
your area (or is the world your area? :^)

In the meantime, for those who don't know much about PBP/BMB, see notes:

1692.0    NOVA::FISHER           8-AUG-1990    36  BMB '90 gets underway
1021.0    DEBIT::HOLDEN         28-FEB-1989     8  BMB 1989 Note
625.0     AIMHI::JSMITH         18-APR-1988    13  Lighting for BMB
1858.15TT Date ChangeUSMRM5::MREIDTue Mar 26 1991 13:1810
    Re: .7
    
    The Date for the MA/RI District TT has been changed from
    Sunday June 2  to SATURDAY JUNE 15.  Just got off the phone
    with Cadence Events... seems they are still finalizing the
    course (may be SMU area, or may not).
    
    Mark
    
    PS - This TT is open to anyone.
1858.16 MA/RI District TT updateUSMRM5::MREIDTue Jun 04 1991 12:5916
    Regarding the June 15 MA/RI District TT (open to anyone from any state,
    including a tandem division):
    
    I just got off the phone with Tom Mahoney (508)339-4731 who is the
    race director in charge of course maps & flyers.  The course map and
    flyer are not yet ready; they should be ready this week.  If you want
    to participate in this event, call Tom now, and leave him your FAX#
    or home address.
    
    Regards,
    Mark
    
    PS - The route has finally been confirmed; starts in Westport,MA.
    PPS - the delays are partially due to getting route approval, and
          Cadence Events' involvement with Tour Dupont & Mt.Washington
          Omnium.
1858.17TT testrideUSMRM5::MREIDMon Jun 10 1991 14:5727
    MA/RI District TT Saturday June 15, day-o-race registration opens
    at 7am, 1st rider off at 9am.  Event open to citizens, tandem, USCF.
    
    Directions to start in Westoprt,MA: (1.5 hr drive south of Marlboro,MA)
    	o 495(s) to Rt 24(s) (exit #7B off 495)
    	o Rt 24(s) to Rt 195 (East)
    	o Rt 195(E) quickly to Rt 88 (exit #10, Horseneck Beach)
    	o Right at 2nd set of lites onto Old County Rd
        o Park at Westport Middle School 1/2 mile on Left.
    
    I biked the course this past Saturday; here is my impression:
    
    Course is "out and back".  The roads have virtually no traffic and
    are back country roads thru woods and farmlands.  Course includes 4
    90-degree turns each leg, plus the turnaround.  Roads are a little
    bumpy but not disruptive to aero position.  Terrain is somewhat
    rolling, but a 53 x 17or19 should do fine.  Woodsy sections shelter
    you from ocean winds, but there are some farmlands that may have a lot
    of wind.  This is not what I'd consider a "fast" course (rolling hills,
    8 turns plus turnaround, some bumpy roads, near the ocean = winds, etc)
    but it is a fun one to ride.
    
    One will have to concentrate on constant intensity and not be too 
    distracted with the course itself.  This is much different than last
    year's MA/RI TT course.
    
    Mark
1858.18DUET Classic Article in Nov'91 issue of Bicycling Magazine.CTHQ3::JENIN::FREREEllas Danzan SolasMon Sep 23 1991 18:5210
That's right folks!  The race that Nancy and I did in Eugene has made it in the 
latest issue.

Unfortunately, we were not in any of the pics (Nancy blames it on my looks, I
think it's because we were too fast to photgraph (100,000/sec shutter speed not
available).  Anyways, the article really gives a honest depiction of what it's
like to race in a tandems-only stage race.  Well worth the reading.  Feels like
you are right there (which we were in this case).

Eric_who_would_have_killed_to_be_pictured...
1858.19WE'RE SURROUNDED BY AMATUERS!WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Sep 24 1991 07:135
     Nice going... At least you were there. I know what you mean about
    the photography issue... I hate it when the press shows up without
    their strobe light stuff... Sheesh, amatuers!
    
      Chip