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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

1656.0. "Bikes for heavy riders" by ULTRA::WITTENBERG (Uphill, Into the Wind) Mon Jul 23 1990 15:02

    Two friends recently asked me about road bikes with strong frames.
    Dave  is  about  6'  260 lbs, and Steve is 6'5" and about the same
    weight.  Steve  has bent his last two frames, and is looking for a
    touring  bike that won't turn into a pretzel (probably in the $550
    range.)  Dave  isn't  as strong, and wants to ride to get in shape
    but is worried that his weight will be a problem.

    Any suggestions  on  what  bike  to recommend? I suspect that they
    want different bikes, but I don't know what's heavily enough built
    these days.

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--David
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1656.1EDIT::CRITZWho'll win the TdF in 1990?Mon Jul 23 1990 15:2516
    	Dave,
    
    	As I've mentioned before, I'm 6'6" and weigh 262. I have
    	an old CroMo TREK and a new TREK 1400 aluminum. I've never
    	had any trouble with either bike, although I only have about
    	600 miles on the aluminum bike.
    
    	What kinda bikes did Steve have and what part of the bike
    	did he bend?
    
    	Of course, I'll be 43 in less than a month, so I'm not some
    	animal on the bike.
    
    	How old is Steve?
    
    	Scott
1656.2how did they breakTALLIS::JBELLZeno was almost hereMon Jul 23 1990 15:3215
>    ...  Steve  has bent his last two frames, and is looking for a
>    touring  bike that won't turn into a pretzel ...

    Just out of curiosity, how did they fail?
    What kind of frames were they?

    At 245 I've only had one frame fail, and that was due to
    accident damage.

    It seems to me that any reasonably good quality frame would suffice.

    The feature that they should pay attention to is wheel size.
    Skinny tires might not be so good.

    -Jeff
1656.3CannondaleWCSM::MANDILETue Jul 24 1990 04:0311
    
    I suggest looking into Cannondale. You can get a bike in the $550-600
    range, with a fat tube (no pun intended) aluminum (sp) frame.
    I have 2, a rode bike and a mountain bike. I'm 5'11 and weigh 200
    (I have weighed as much as 220 while owning the two). I have
    no complaints at all, they are as strong as nails, and light.
    I have riden the mountain bike down 30 stairs at a time, and its still
    like new.
    Worth looking into.
    
    Al
1656.4Try the RB2ABACUS::GUYERTue Jul 24 1990 10:205
    I believe it was bicycling magazene that had an article on the
    Bridgstone RB2.  They said it was very sturdy.  It is CroMo steel and
    intended for loaded touring.
    
    Earl
1656.5I get a lot of comments on my fat tubes :-)GSFSWS::JSMITHChromed CannondaleTue Jul 24 1990 15:5510
    re: .3
    
    	At 220 + I have yet to have a problem with either of
    the SR 600's that I have owned (Fat Tube and Pre Fat Tube
    or is that Fat Fat and Woe Fat Tubes) I bounced the pre fat 
    over several thousand miles before upgrading to the Fat Fat
    (mostly to get the aluminum forks that came with it which
    *are not* recommended for heavy riders).
    
    						_Jerry
1656.6Cow Pie, anyone???IDEFIX::HEMMINGSLanterne RougeMon Jul 30 1990 03:318
	I've been reading the notes on 'heavy' riders, and frankly I'm amazed !

	I'm 5'11" (1,80m) and weigh 160 lb (72kg) and I consider I could lose a
couple of kilos to help my meagre strength.  Thinking about someone of 260 lb, I
finally realised it meant me riding along carrying 4 bikes on my back and the
thought of that up the Col de Cayolle......

	You guys must be eating something different to me !!!!
1656.7Not to mention about a half ton of Hostess products!NCDEL::PEREZJust one of the 4 samurai!Mon Jul 30 1990 23:5926
>	I'm 5'11" (1,80m) and weigh 160 lb (72kg) and I consider I could lose a
>couple of kilos to help my meagre strength.  Thinking about someone of 260 lb, I
>finally realised it meant me riding along carrying 4 bikes on my back and the
    
    Look on the bright side... many of us heavier riders are less heavy
    than we used to be!  I started riding in May of 1989 at 304 pounds. 
    Today, I've still got a long way to go, but I'm at 245 pounds give or
    take the odd Twinkie!
    
>thought of that up the Col de Cayolle......

    Well, I have no idea what or where the "Col de Cayolle" is, but if its
    a hill, those of us of the heavier persuasion generally don't climb
    them when avoidable!  We do, however, have a GREAT time coasting down
    them.  Speaking from personal experience, I consider myself one of the
    all-time GREAT straight line coasters!!!!!!!!!!
    
>	You guys must be eating something different to me !!!!

    In my case it was 20 years of Baker's Square French Silk Pie, Fannie
    May butter cream chocolates, and especially a very special concoction
    composed of 2 slices of the best 5-layer butter-cream frosted,
    chocolate cake covered with at least 3 scoops of Edy's Grand Amaretto &
    Cream ice cream, and all slathered with quantities of Mrs. Robinson's
    home-made Hot Fudge topping and REAL whipped cream...  I gotta go...  I
    need a snack!
1656.8The trick is to take the food on board at the TOP.......IDEFIX::HEMMINGSLanterne RougeTue Jul 31 1990 03:4328
>    In my case it was 20 years of Baker's Square French Silk Pie, Fannie
>   May butter cream chocolates, and especially a very special concoction
>    composed of 2 slices of the best 5-layer butter-cream frosted,
>    chocolate cake covered with at least 3 scoops of Edy's Grand Amaretto &
>    Cream ice cream, and all slathered with quantities of Mrs. Robinson's
>    home-made Hot Fudge topping and REAL whipped cream...  I gotta go...  I
>    need a snack!

NOW I know where I went wrong..........

>    Well, I have no idea what or where the "Col de Cayolle" is, but if its
>    a hill, those of us of the heavier persuasion generally don't climb
>    them when avoidable!  We do, however, have a GREAT time coasting down
>    them.  Speaking from personal experience, I consider myself one of the
>    all-time GREAT straight line coasters!!!!!!!!!!

Well I guess it IS a hill....... (Yellow Michelin no 81), the Tour used 
to use it most years until the traffic in the South of France got too 
heavy in July.  My latest book on Maitre Jacques (Anquetil) talks about 
the day of the Brian�on to Monaco stage when they went through this (and 
other) evil country.
We celebrated Independance Day with 130 km in the Alpes-Maritimes with 3 
cols over 2000 m (about 6500'). - we being an Englishman, an Irishman, a 
Welshman and the token American.  I don't know about avoiding going up,
but I was in bronze+1 position on the Col de Champs and the col d'Allos 
but thanks to a puncture to the blarney-boy I got a silver on the Cayolle.
However on the 25 km downhill I came into my own and arrived back at the
cars first !!
1656.9Col d'Allos, HaleakalaSHALOT::ELLISJohn Lee Ellis - assembly requiredTue Jul 31 1990 08:4624
    
    RE: .-1
    
    I recall the Col de Cayolle as being the sister pass to the
    Col d'Allos (very small distance between them, on parallel
    north-south roads).  Is that accurate?  It is amidst very 
    backwoodsy countryside (characteristic, I must add).  Your
    multipass outing sounds splendid!
    
    RE: .-3
    
    There are in fact places where people will transport you
    to the *top* of a descent, and then let you coast down for
    miles.  Haleakala is one.  It is a volcano, and there is
    at least one company that provides you the motor transport, 
    mountain bikes and yellow slickers.  I saw veritable *flocks* of
    partakers as I *sweated* and *wheezed* (because of the altitude)
    upward.  Seriously, if you are ever near Maui, this would be
    a neat ride to take.  (Also, other locales may have similar offers.)
    
    -john
    
    PS: It's not straight, though.  There are turns in the road.  :-)