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| 1554.1 | Shoe-Goo? | SHALOT::ELLIS | John Lee Ellis - assembly required | Tue May 22 1990 12:54 | 17 |
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It's hard to know without video analysis (:-)), but maybe the
touring shoes are grabbing *too* well. (I'm trying to remember
the difficulties I've had with non-cleated shoes in pedals like
that.) Namely, you (1) flip the pedal up, then you (2) scoot your
foot forward into it. It maybe step 2 where the shoe is grabbing
onto the pedal - either the sole of the shoe or the sides, if it's
a wide shoe.
Here's an idea (completely untested!): the *toe* (and toe-point of
the sole underneath) shoed by rough, like cleated shoes; but you
could smooth out the sole behind the toe, and the side-edges around
that area, with Shoe-Goo. The shoes will still be useable, even
if this fails, but you might not like the cosmetics. You be the
judge. Cheaper than clipless. :-)
-john
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| 1554.2 | Reflectors? | DEBUG::SCHULDT | I'm Occupant! | Tue May 22 1990 12:56 | 2 |
| Do you have the reflectors on he pedals? They definitely make it
harder to enter the pedal. If you do, take 'em off.
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| 1554.3 | | JUPTR::CRITZ | Who'll win the TdF in 1990? | Tue May 22 1990 13:51 | 6 |
| John Lee,
I afraid to ask, but what the heck is Shoe-Goo? It must
be some kind of lubricant, but ???
Scott
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| 1554.4 | the story of Shoe Goo | SHALOT::ELLIS | John Lee Ellis - assembly required | Tue May 22 1990 14:05 | 23 |
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Back in the 70's, when health-conscious America pounded the pavement
in Adidas leather running shoes, or Keds, running-shoe sole wear was
a big problem - a dedicated runner might only get a couple months out
of a shoe. Then along came Shoe Goo!
Shoe Goo is a plastic (polymer) compound in a tube that you can squeeze
onto the worn spots of your soles and build up a tough, rubber-like area.
Economy-minded people have even used it for covering bald spots in an
otherwise good bike-tire, 'til the rest of the tire catches up in being
worn out. (It works.) Of course, now all bike parts are so expensive,
it's futile to try to save a few bucks prolonging tire life. :-(
But I was serious about trying Shoe Goo - you'll typically find it in
sports or running stores (not in bike shops). It is a white tube with
red lettering, as I recall.
There's a myriad of uses for Shoe Goo, by the way, in case the
suggested purpose doesn't work out, or you have some left over.
Be inventive! :-)
-john
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| 1554.5 | What about? | MILKWY::CRITCHLOW | | Tue May 22 1990 15:57 | 43 |
| I have been thinking about this a bit.
If you look at the present design:
______
_____ clip \
Machined | \
Plate V \
___________________________
| / \ pedal |
| | | |
___| \ / /
tab > / --------------------------
What if my father were to machine the plate with the
tab moved up towards the top of the plate so that the
distance the toe has to travel to get in the clip is less:
______
_____ clip \
Machined | \
Plate V \
___________________________
---| / \ pedal |
tab-> / | | | |
| \ / /
--------------------------
I am pretty sure that these pedals don't have reflectors.
Shimano 600s don't come with them do they?
Just a thought. I'm calling him tonight.
JC
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| 1554.6 | It ain't supposed to wrok | NOVA::FISHER | Dictionary is not. | Wed May 23 1990 04:47 | 7 |
| Those darned tabs never worked for me either. I think they're just
there to make you feel inferior. You're not supposed to be able to
use them right.
:-)
ed
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| 1554.7 | quik-flips? | USMRM5::MREID | | Wed May 23 1990 10:49 | 11 |
| There are 'tabs' that you can buy to make entry into
the clips easier; I forget the name (Quik-Flips?) and
where you can get them, but I recall that they screw onto
the pedal on the opposite side of where the toe clip screws
on, and they work because these 'tabs' are quite large &
easy to catch with a shoe. They are designed for mountain
bike pedals, but should work equally well on road pedals.
I'll see if I can dig up some more info in my files...
Mark
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| 1554.8 | pedal design = #!@!& | KOOZEE::PAULHUS | Chris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871 | Wed May 23 1990 11:49 | 12 |
| two solutions:
1. Go to clipless pedals :-}
2. hang a 4 oz weight from the back of the pedal so it
stays in position to put your toe in. :-(
Why didn't (no need now that we have clipless pedals) they have
regular pedals in two styles: a racing pedal with high ground clearance
in turns that was hard to get into (typical design), and a touring
pedal with the c.g. below the pedal axle, even with clip/strap, that
hung in a good position to put your toe into? Just another example of
how racing has dominated bicycle design, much to the harm of typical
bicycle users. - Chris, who rides a bike banned by race organizations
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| 1554.9 | | JUMBLY::MACFADYEN | Go on, entertain me! | Wed May 23 1990 13:51 | 17 |
| > <<< Note 1554.8 by KOOZEE::PAULHUS "Chris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871" >>>
>
> and a touring
> pedal with the c.g. below the pedal axle, even with clip/strap, that
> hung in a good position to put your toe into?
I have actually seen a pedal like this. In 86 I was buying new pedals
for my touring bike and was shown SR platform pedals, which I bought,
plus a pair that were weighted so as always to be level (just as you
describe), which I didn't buy because the extra 100g would slow me
right down, unlike 20kg of loaded pannier.
But I can't for the life of me remember a make or model although I do
remember the shop, Harry Hall in Manchester (England).
Rod
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