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1462.1 | O for the CTC approach | RUTILE::STIMPSON | | Wed Mar 28 1990 06:37 | 8 |
| I wonder Rod, whether you wore one of those aero helmets?
And have you now got a large solid wheel at the back on your TT
bike? And did you get those tri-bars fitted?
Oh for the heroic days when Tommy Simpson used to rely on will-power
and strength....
And I thought the bicycle was a symbol of serenity and simplicity...
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1462.2 | Go for it Rod, an tell us the results. | BANZAI::FISHER | Dictionary is not. | Wed Mar 28 1990 07:15 | 4 |
| Well, let's see now Rdo, you do have aero pedals and seat post, ehh?
Have you shaved your arms and legs?
ed
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1462.3 | | JUMBLY::MACFADYEN | Bad words | Wed Mar 28 1990 08:07 | 18 |
| Re Keith:
Specialised helmet, no disc wheels, no aero bars (banned by RTTC
anyway). As you well know. You're just looking for an excuse to moan.
Re Ed:
Dura-Ace pedals you sold me, thanks, and yes, a Campy aero seat-post!
Shaved no, grazed, occasionally. I will report Saturday's ride here, I
know how you'll all be dying to know.
Actually, looking at the start sheet for the Newmarket event, I must be
considered a favourite for one �5 prize: the "Colin Lawrence Award for
Slowest Rider". Looking a *liitle* further up the list, I recognise one
name: Sarah Springman, a world-class triathlete sponsored by Freewheel.
Rod
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1462.4 | | BCSE::KLASMAN | Boston-Montreal-Boston 1990 | Wed Mar 28 1990 08:41 | 7 |
| Rod,
The RTTC is a time-trialling organization right? What's the handbook like?
I might like to get a copy... what's it cost (American) and would it be worth it
to me to get a copy?
Kevin
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1462.5 | The RTTC and its handbook | JUMBLY::MACFADYEN | Bad words | Wed Mar 28 1990 08:57 | 30 |
| The RTTC is the Road Time-Trials Council, the governing body of amateur
time-trialling in Britain. They issue a handbook each year, a small but
thick and closely-printed tome, contents roughly as follows:
- Rules: lots and lots of them, about competing, about how to run events
and so.
- A list of all RTTC sanctioned events for the year: hundreds of 'em.
Not many in Jan or Feb, but by mid-summer there are 20~30 a day
scattered round England and Wales. My own club organises about 3 or 4
over the course of the year.
- Brief description of all the courses
- List of all the winners of last year's events
Plus other stuff I forget. The idea is that you get one early on in the
season, then peruse it for TTs you might like to do. This is especially
important if you want to enter something like BBAR, the British Best
All-Rounder competition, a national scheme for finding the best
competitors over 50m, 100m and 12-hour TTs (this has been discussed in
Cycle_Racing). Entering an event is equally rule-bound, one has to use
only a standard type of form which asks details of recent performances
over various standard distances. Events secretaries use these details
to decide who to allow to enter their event, generally on the basis of
fastest only. I wasn't at all sure I would gain entry to this TT,
because I have a minimal and unimpressive TT history.
I don't think the book would of much practical use to you, but I'm sure
I could get you a copy if you wanted.
Rod
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1462.6 | We need a TT organization here in the States!
| BCSE::KLASMAN | Boston-Montreal-Boston 1990 | Wed Mar 28 1990 13:28 | 9 |
| Rod,
Yes I'd like a copy, since I'm interested in getting something like the RTTC,
and especially the BBAR, going here in the US (or at least New England). I think
we need something like that for those of us who don't like risking life, limb
and bike in crits and road races, the dominant form of bike racing here. Its
too dangerous for me!
Kevin
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1462.7 | Bidlake turns in his grave...... | IDEFIX::HEMMINGS | Lanterne Rouge | Thu Mar 29 1990 08:37 | 17 |
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Yes, Rules rule OK (Gospel according to RTTC).
RTTC timetrials are not quite like the TdF where the yellow jersey gets
to start last and the Lanterne Rouge first. In a traditional field of
120 riders, the fastest *should* be off no 60, the 2nd off 120..... the
rest of the field is allocated in the order 1's, 6's, 2's, 7's etc,
etc.. - the idea being to try to avoid pacing when riders get caught.
When I was a lad you used to boast you were "off on a 0, or a 1",
indiacting you were in the upper echelon. Of course it depended
whether you were talking about a Nat Championship or the Wobbly
Wheelers MM '25'.
PS Enjoy the Newmarket event, I shall be interested to see if you
subscribe to the common view that East Anglia is flat after the
weekend.
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1462.8 | | JUMBLY::MACFADYEN | Bad words | Mon Apr 02 1990 06:34 | 27 |
| > PS Enjoy the Newmarket event, I shall be interested to see if you
> subscribe to the common view that East Anglia is flat after the
> weekend.
East Anglia? Flat? Who said that?
The course was pretty tough in fact, with lots of long drags to climb,
and one short sharp one. The conditions were good, sunny and warm
though a bit breezy, and my legs had their first look at the sun this
year. I think you're right about the order in which competitors are set
off: I did nurture faint hopes of being first rider home, but I was
passed by number 5 after 10 miles and number 10 after 19 miles, so so
much for that idea.
I used gearing of 52-42 and 13-21, and I'm sorry to say that I was on
the small ring as much as the big one. The machinery lying around the
sports ground where everyone was parked was pretty impressive, and
would have gladdened the eyes of a Campagnolo rep.
If you want actual numbers, I did 1:16:49 for the 26.4 miles. The
fastest time on the board when I left, with about a third of the times
up, was 1:02:03.
I failed to win the Colin Lawrence award, btw.
Rod
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1462.9 | | SHALOT::ELLIS | John Lee Ellis - assembly required | Mon Apr 02 1990 07:03 | 4 |
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Good going! (And mind the sunscreen... :-))
j
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1462.10 | Where's the start of CC132? | IOSG::BROGAN | Mike Brogan | Tue Apr 03 1990 05:25 | 10 |
| RE: .0
Rod,
What's the schedule for the Reading Club 10's. Each Tues at 7:00pm?.
Also, where's the start point for CC132? My own club (Farnborough and
Camberley) 10's don't start for a couple of weeks so I thought I'd have
a go at Reading's.
Mike
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1462.11 | No dawdle | RUTILE::STIMPSON | | Tue Apr 03 1990 05:31 | 9 |
| Re 8
I make that an average speed of 20.639 mph. That ain't bad at all.
But you kinda sounded a bit flat about the whole trip as though
you didn't enjoy it...or perhaps you have a deadline to meet.
For information (as someone nearing 40), what's the age range like
at such an event?
Keith
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1462.12 | | JUMBLY::MACFADYEN | Bad words | Wed Apr 04 1990 05:59 | 20 |
| Re .10:
It's off behind Twyford, but difficult to explain, for me anyway. Since
you're in Decpark, bring a map round and I'll show you?
Re .11:
The age range is large. The guy parked next to me must have been about
60, and he wasn't the only one. Time-triallists seem to have a long
career. Raleigh have this year taken on as a professional Ian Cammish,
till now the UK's top amateur time-trialler, and he's about 41.
As to whether I enjoyed it or not, yes I did, as much as I ever enjoy
any competitive athletic event. Whether you're doing a TT or a 10K run,
you have to put the effort in and it hurts! You ought to try it
sometime, like when you get your flash road bike.
Rod
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1462.13 | | JUMBLY::MACFADYEN | Pure ignorance | Mon Apr 09 1990 06:26 | 13 |
| I found a write-up of the TT in the April 5th "Cycling Weekly". The guy
who won was Ian Browning of Polytechnic CC - Air Canada Cargo, the
owner of the 1:02:03 time I mentioned earlier which was in fact just
one second off the course record, and 1:30 faster than the next man.
Some of the descriptions rang a bell, eg "The early swoop down to
Newmarket town, HQ of horse racing, was soon counteracted by the climb
of Duchess Drive which Browning took at a seemingly effortless gallop".
I remember the swoop, and I certainly remember the climb, but the
seemingly effortless gallop, no, I can't say I remember that.
Rod
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1462.14 | RE:CAMMISH | WARNUT::PAVERD | | Thu Jun 28 1990 08:47 | 7 |
| RE:- The age of Cammish
He's only in his mid-thirties and definately not 41.
P.S
What are the courses like around Reading, the Cheshire (J courses) are
pretty dire.
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1462.15 | H courses | JUMBLY::MACFADYEN | Mmm! Tastes good! | Fri Jun 29 1990 06:18 | 8 |
| Sorry if I had his age wrong, I'm sure I read it was 41 in one of the
magazines. As for courses round here, they're mainly A-road and dual
carriageway (you could have guessed that) and flattish. I'm not as
familiar with them as I'd hoped I would be by now, having been off the
bike since late April.
Rod
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