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1173.1 | | WITNES::HANNULA | Well, you see, I have this cat....... | Fri May 19 1989 09:20 | 26 |
| Pradeep,
I increase my mileage in gradual steps. My first ride of the season
I will ride about 20 miles. After the ride I see how I feel and
set a goal for the following week. If I feel great after the ride,
I'll set a goal of 30 miles for the following week, but if I feel
lousy, I'll set a goal of 25 miles for the following week. If I'm
practically dead, I'll just ride 20 miles the following week.
On my longer rides, especially early in the season, I'll try to
circle around my house, never getting more than 10-15 miles away.
That way, if I'm having a bad day I can always turn home and not
have that far to go. I don't want to be 40 miles away from home
and all of a sudden realize I'm not in good enough shape to do an
80 mile ride.
One other thing that helps me is that early in the season, I don't
pay attention to speed. I'll set out for a 40 mile ride, and I
won't care how long it will take me. Once I know I can comfortably
handle a longer ride, then I try to go a little faster. When your
body is not ready to handle the long rides, you can wear yourself
out quickly by trying to go fast those first 10 miles.
Good luck.
-Nancy
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1173.2 | energy, pacing | SHALOT::ELLIS | John Lee Ellis - assembly required | Fri May 19 1989 09:30 | 19 |
| Nancy is right - pacing is critical... and don't worry about the
speed at first. Alternate sprints/interval type rides with rides
whose sole purpose is length.
The other thing is: you will find whole other dimensions to biking
that don't show up on shorter rides -
- nourishment/energy level
- tender spots
- pacing (as mentioned before).
That means you have to watch that you keep your energy pipeline
filled by eating/drinking *before* you get hungry/thirsty. Carry
something along, energy bars or whatever, and water. And try to
toughen up points of contact (for example with the saddle) gradually,
so you won't be miserable, for the wrong reasons at least.
Have fun!
-john
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1173.3 | routes in Nashua Area. | BANZAI::FISHER | Rdb/VMS Dinosaur | Fri May 19 1989 09:56 | 17 |
| Concerning riding from the Nashua area:
I have many routes from the Tara, though they can be modified to
fit your location. The 30-40 milers go in various directions,
including south to Shirley, MA, west to Townsend, North to Hollis,
east to Pelham.
The Granite State Wheelmen have a Tuesday evening ride from
Nashua High at 6 PM and various other events from places around the
state on other days. The group will usually look after someone
new, though most will go off at breakneck speed.
If you are interested in these routes, send me mail and I'll send you
what I have. They are in cue sheet format so you'll need an odometer
or have to pay attention to road signs.
ed
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1173.4 | TRAINING IS FUN | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Fri May 19 1989 10:02 | 22 |
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In agreement with all. The launch point should be cardio-vascular
improvement, not strength. Real easy to do. Concentrate on cadence
in lite gears. To get to a good aerobic level, this will probably
take about 4-5 weeks. Once you begin to fell good 3-4 weeks you
can start mixing workouts. Spinning is extremely important because
it is what will condition muscles, tendons, ligements and joints
and will help avoid the potential for injury (as well).
Don't be afraid to take a day off either. Muscles need time to
recover. And don't place too much serious attention on the AMOUNT
of miles versus the quality of miles. Your body will talk to you.
Funny thing about training, you might not feel like you're getting
a good workout at times (if you're training correctly). The surprise
will come when you think you're not going to have the endurance
or strength and BOOM... It's magically there and it's a great feeling
to unload it.
HAVE FUN! You're getting into one of the healthiest and fun sports.
Chip
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1173.5 | Thanks, need info on accessories also | SMURF::CHETAL | | Fri May 19 1989 10:39 | 39 |
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Re: .1 - .4
Thank you for the input. Wow, is this notes file active *or what.
Regarding .1, Yes I am not very much interested in my speed right now
but I want to concentrate more on the distance and the quality of
distance I can travel. Some times I do around 20-30 miles and do the
same amount the next day also. I rather increase my distance and bike
on alternate days.
Re: .2
With the distances I am doing, I don't feel hungry BUT I do feel thirsty
and most of the time I stop for a bottle of Gatorade. Is it OK to stop
for 5-10 minutes and then start again. Also do people eat candy/etc while
they are biking. What sort of food do people eat? Is this all the nutrition
stuff (I mean speciality food stores types).
Re: .3
I am for sure interested in getting the maps. I'll send you mail. From
your node name it looks like U work across the street, I am in ZK3.
Re: .4
I think you are correct. I am in for exercise/fun/cardio-vascular
improvement. I am 27 years old. Is it too late to strart biking to increase
my endurance?
Also I have a few other questions. I still haven't bought helmet/gloves/
bike jersey etc. I am looking for the above and was planning to go to the
NASHBAR store in Needham. Are there any good stores arounf Boston/S. NH I
should look for *and* more importantly what do I look for in these things.
I think helnmets/gloves are necessary. What about bike jerseys.
Any input will be appreciated.
Thanks,
/Pradeep
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1173.6 | USE THIS NOTE | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Fri May 19 1989 10:44 | 6 |
| You're gonna have to get more specific than that. In fact, your
best bet would be to go through this file. There are very few
topics "uncovered". I realize (given the size of the NOTE) that
it will be a lot work/time. Believe me, it will be worth it.
Chip
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1173.7 | Drink plenty, and get a water bottle | IAMOK::WESTER | | Fri May 19 1989 11:07 | 15 |
| In answer to your "Gatorade, stoping to drink" question, I'd say
that you should drink while you ride. It's fine to stop and drink,
but if you had a water bottle and drank every 10 minutes or so,
You won't need to stop so much.
To me, drinking a lot of liquid is important. I drink about 12
oz. of water before I start riding, and then drink a bottle (16
oz.) of water every hour on the bike. Once in a while I'll use
Gatorade, or any other "fluid replacement" drink, but water usually
is good enough.
When it starts to get really warm drinking enough water is very
important. When you ride, the wind dries the sweat off your skin
quickly, so often you don't realize how much fluid your body is
losing.
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1173.8 | 20 -> 100 = 6 months for me | ENGINE::PAULHUS | Chris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871 | Fri May 19 1989 11:34 | 11 |
| 1. Please get and use a helmet ASAP!
2. When I started out (on a $98 Sears Free Spirit!) it took me about
6 months to get from 20 miles to 100 miles. Some, more athletic
types, can do this in a month or two, but I don't like pain. The
advise on pacing, incremental inprovements, listening to your body,
and food/water are right on. My personal this-works-for-me is to
carbo load the night before for anything over 50 miles, and rest
days between days when I push. Rest days are good for social rides
with new/slow/whatever riders who you normally don't get to ride
with. - Chris
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1173.9 | B-I-G QUESTIONS | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Fri May 19 1989 13:02 | 26 |
| Regarding endurance; I'm 36 and have only been serious about the
sport for 2 1/2 years. Endurance, believe it or not, is the easiest
to develop. You'll do fine if you train correctly and training
correctly will amaze you with major gains in the beginning/quickly.
Regarding helmet; ABSOLUTELY! I doubt you'll have anyone tell you
not to.
Regarding drinking; Water will do for the miles you're talking
about if you're an average person, it isn't 100 degrees with
99% humidity and you're not running at an anaerobic state for
the whole ride. Beyond 50 you'd better think beyond water. The
main thing already noted is to drink. Even if you don't feel
thirsty. Persperation wicks away while riding and makes you
"feel" cooler. It's one the biggest dangers next to inconsiderate
motorists.
Regarding assessories; You've just entered "THE CONSUMER ZONE".
This stuff will make your head spin. Basic will be helmet, good
shoes (will make a big difference), padded riding shorts/tights
and some eye protection, water bottles. Wanna get fancy, get a
computer. The rest of the things (a million of 'em) are far to
mention. Get a catelog from NASHBAR & PERFORMANCE. You'll see
what I mean.
Chip
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1173.10 | | WITNES::HANNULA | Well, you see, I have this cat....... | Fri May 19 1989 15:31 | 22 |
| Re: Food
Anything under 50 miles and I don't really worry about food. I
make sure I have a good sized, high carbo meal an hour or so before
the ride.
I also always bring a 10 spot with me - Southern NH and Central
Mass are loaded with farm stands - about every 20 miles I like to
stop at one and pick up a bite of fruit to eat. It also makes me
feel good to know that I'm supporting "local business".
Longer than 50 miles, I'll pack food for the ride so that I can
better monitor and control my food intake. And I won't have to
worry about finding a farm stand at the right time.
Re: Water
I only carry 2 water bottles with me, which ususally won't last
that long on a hot sumemr day. So, it becomes a problem of finding
water on the ride. I've found that churches tend to have outside
water spigots - and as long as it's not 10:00 AM on a Sunday, there
won't be anybody around to tell you to get lost.
-Nancy
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1173.11 | More.... | CIMAMT::CHINNASWAMY | help save basselopes & puffalumps! | Fri May 19 1989 16:04 | 19 |
| Pradeep,
There are many good points here so far. May I also suggest you look
into some of the bicycling magazines. They are full of information
about training, eating, health, etc... Plus you can keep up to date
on the latest equipment. Be warned though, this can cause your wallet
to disappear fast! :-). I remember seeing an article in either
BICYCLING or BICYCLE GUIDE last year which helped one prepare for
their first century (100 mile or 62 km ride). I'll see if I still
have it this weekend.
Also, Head down to Nashbar or wherever and get a helmet!! While your
there check out all the crazy stuff you can buy for this sport and pick
up a catalogue. Maybe you can take some time at night or on the
weekend and go through this notesfile. Its helped me tremendously!
Mano
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1173.12 | Say late and read Read READ | WFOV11::SISE | | Fri May 19 1989 16:28 | 17 |
| I read this entire notes file. This was the MOST educational source
of information I have read to date. I also read as many bike mags
as I could find, to include ATB mags. The ATB mags. also talk about
distance rides, training, etc..
Stay late and read all of the file! you will not regret it!
And it's fun!
There are many questions that I have had, that shops in the area
could not answer, but this file could.
Much thanks to the people in this file, for with out you, this
collective conscious would not be here for my benefit.
John
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1173.13 | | BALMER::MUDGETT | did you say FREE food? | Sat May 20 1989 14:48 | 41 |
| Hey pradeep can I throw a couple questions in here?
1. I've been getting serious about this training buisness and the
carbo packing sounds like fun. My son and I are big on TJ cinimon
buns will that do?
2. What do you about people who want to ride with you? I love having
my kids go with me but they are slower than h* and I've gone on
rides with the Baltimore Bicycle Club and their 10mph ride must
be 10 hex because I couldn't keep up with any of them.
3. Do the rest of you need a speedometer to ride? Mine broke the
wire recently and I went and bought another rather than ride without
one.
4. About using up alot of water. I found that I get tired, grumpy
and defeated when I need water but not thirsty, its almost like
I have to drink even though I don't feel thirsty.
5. Is it my imagination or is everything that is necessary to serious
biking way overpriced?
6. What's the deal with biking shorts, I like the boxer type riding
shorts they have the padding and they have pockets as opposed to
the skin tight type shorts which don't have the pockets.
7. I've noticed there are two things different about biking from
most sports.
a. Its as important to read about biking as it is to actually
bike to be the most efficent and to enjoy it the most.
b. There seems to be alot of things that are necessary believe
like using toe clips, using presta type bike pumps (rather than
using a shrader adapter), learning how to repair you own flat
tires (they go flat in the darnedest places and always a long
way from home), joining a local cycling club is necessary to
find out how real bikers do things. Also find a good bike place
a bike shop that is honest with you are a real asset.(this is
quite an admission because I'm a guy who has it all figured
out and usually don't believe anything I didn't think up.
Fred Mudgett
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1173.14 | thanks, John | ENGINE::PAULHUS | Chris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871 | Mon May 22 1989 12:25 | 6 |
| re. .12 John, thanks for your comment! I think all of the
frequent noters here will feel better ('maybe it was worth while')
for the time spent in replying to questions (and showing off their
knowlege :-) ). I wonder if there's a way to distill and spread
this treasure... Or, maybe it's best just as is, not distilled...
- Chris
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1173.15 | SUBSCRIBE... | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Mon May 22 1989 13:24 | 6 |
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Information continues to be repeated and repeated (much like here)
in various magazines. If you subscribe to one, sometime over the
the course of the year you'll see all these topics discussed.
Chip
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1173.16 | Thanks a lot to everyone... | SMURF::CHETAL | | Mon May 22 1989 18:43 | 11 |
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Re: .*
Thanks to all those who replied and also who sent me personal mail with
some maps for the southern NH area.
This NOTES file is full of knowledge/information.
Thanks,
/Pradeep
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