Conference terri::cars_uk

I saw some lap times for the F1 and F3000 cars at Hockenheim.  The slower F1
cars (Pacific) were in the 1:51-1:52 range, the fastest F3000 cars were around
1:55.

Dave

    .1�cars (Pacific) were in the 1:51-1:52 range, the fastest F3000 cars were around
    .1�1:55.
    
    Yep, the Pacifics were betwen 7 and 8 seconds slower than the polemen.
    
    The F3000's have 3 litre engines with a 9000rpm rev limiter, they can't
    use carbon brakes, no fancy aerodynamics, etc ... The + side is that a 
    F3000 season costs only a little bit more than F3 yet they are much
    faster. 
    
    There are currently (to my knowledge) 
    
    - 1 International F3000 championship (the one discussed here)
    - 2 National F3000 championships (UK and Japan)
    
    F3 is different. There are a number of highly competitive National F3
    championships (UK, Germany, France, Italy, ... just to mention the most
    competitive ones). They usually involve 30+ entrants, of which 2 to 4
    are potential winners and potential F1 drivers. Some drivers make a
    direct jump from F3 into F1 (Prost, Senna, ...) while others go through
    F3000 (Streiff, Modena, Moreno, Panis, Comas, Hill, Coulthard, ...).
    
    Over here, Eurosport have a couple of weekly magazines showing bits of
    all these races (Motors and Speedworld). I like to watch those races
    because it's relatively easy to spot the STARS of tomorrow.  

    Yesterday was the last day for this year's International F3000
    championship. After 7 races the championship was open to 4 potential
    winners: De Ferran and Lagorce with 28 points, Boullion with 27 and
    Sospiri with 22.
    
    Magny-Cours saw Lagorce take pole position on the wet track with
    Boullion on the 1st row. Other championship contenders De Ferran and
    Sospiri were relatively far down the grid.
    
    Sunday, the weather was fine, sunny and mild. Lagorce took off from
    pole and led for the 1st quarter of the race followed by Boullion. De
    Ferran (Paul Stewart Racing)  stopped early with mechanical failure.
    
    Boullion passed Lagorce and steadily built a gap growing up to 6-7
    seconds. Sospiri moved his way up the field to finish 5th.
    
    Magny-Cours Race results:	
    
    			1. Boullion	DAMS
    			2. Lagorce	Apomatox
    			3. Gomez	DAMS
    			....
    			5. Sospiri
    			....
    
    Final 1994 Championship standings
    
    			1. Boullion	DAMS		36
    			2. Lagorce	Apomatox	34
    			3. De Ferran	P Stewart	28
    			4. Sospiri	?		24
    			....
    
    Of the 4 drivers above only Frank Lagorce has already signed a F1
    contract: he is Ligier's test driver as of now.

    Patrick
    
    Don't you find f3000 to appear to to be very slow on TV. I know they
    aren't slow but the TV does something...... Maybe that's why Bernie
    wants to ring the changes.
    
    Mike

    .4�    Don't you find f3000 to appear to to be very slow on TV. I know they
    
    Mike, I find F1 and F3000 to appear 'slow' on TV. The Magny-Cours
    coverage on Eurosport was particularly bad with too few cameras located
    too far from the track (no zoom, no closeup) and a terrible TV director
    who really enjoyed showing general views of the thing and just
    forgetting to show the race.
    
    In real terms, F3000 usually go around 10 secs slower than F1s on an
    identical track when F1 lap around 1'20". The nice thing about F3000
    compared to F1 is that the 10 fastest guys qualify within 1 second of
    each other. They use almost identical chassis and engines, the proper
    setup being the driver's differential. Other thing: like in Indycar
    they can't use carbon brakes, meaning the braking distances are much
    longer than in F1 (meaning more overtaking). Otherwise their top speed
    is equal to F1's.

    Re -3
    
    Actually de Ferran was punted off by de Simone at the hairpin on the
    first lap.
    
    :-(
    
    Paul

>>The Magny-Cours coverage on Eurosport was particularly bad

That's what I meant, it was truly appalling and did look really slow. It
certainly did nothing for the promotion of the sport. The other thing is that
they now look too stable, unlike F1, probably because they just don't have the
power but still have too much downforce.

M

>>The Magny-Cours coverage on Eurosport was particularly bad

That's what I meant, it was truly appalling and did look really slow. It
certainly did nothing for the promotion of the sport. The other thing is that
they now look too stable, unlike F1, probably because they just don't have the
power but still have too much downforce.

M

    Is F3000 and F Ford shown on TV?I presume it is only shown on Sky?
    
    Tyrone
    

    Every round of the f3000 championship was on Eurosport, FF was on both
    but you have to guess which show because the details of programme
    listings are pathetic because they change by the hour!
    
    Mike

The final round of the Japanese championship was familar. 

Dave.

    Dave
    
    Explain.....Autosport is conspicuous by its absence!
    
    Mike

re.12:

Andrew Gilbert-Scott was on pole at the last race, he needed to win to steal the
championship. The championship leader punted him off at the first bend.

Dave.