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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2115.0. "What cars would you have on the PCL" by FAILTE::THOMSONS () Fri Jul 02 1993 14:59

 
If you had to pick 3 GM cars to be on the new FY94 car scheme what would they 
be ? assuming that the prices to the driver remain much the same as FY93.

It would be interesting to see if the suggestions do find their way onto the 
list.

	

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2115.1SUBURB::THOMASHThe Devon DumplingFri Jul 02 1993 15:055
	Frontera is the olny one I'd be likely to want.


	Heather
2115.2BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionFri Jul 02 1993 16:138
    If you really think about it I  can't see Calibra's or Frontera's being
    on the scheme:
    
    I reckon it'll be Astra's, Cavaliers, and maybe the Carltons and
    Senators
    
    
    Greg (hope I'm proved wrong!)
2115.3MAJORS::ALFORDlying Shipwrecked and comatose...Fri Jul 02 1993 16:186
My 3 :-)

Nova GSi
Frontera Sport
Astra SRi
2115.4Overly PessimisticYUPPY::PATEMANScuba Dive in my Think TankFri Jul 02 1993 17:0311
    Re -2
    
    My wife's scheme at Unisys is a Vauxhall one and includes all cars upto
    and including the Lotus carlton.
    
    Quote from Letter on Scheme:
    
    "they also have an excellent range of vehicles covering sports models,
    saloons, smaller economy models, diesels, estates 4WD, etc (plus Saab)"
    
    Paul
2115.5WIZZER::FISCHERI can always sleep standing upFri Jul 02 1993 18:1412
The PCL should have a price for all Vauxhalls and Saabs
and a price list for all extras. Otherwise, what's the 
point.


And, re a few back. I thought about it and I can't see
why Calibras shouldn't be on the PCL. Can you explain please?




	Ian
2115.6:-|ESBS01::WATSONSimplicity soldFri Jul 02 1993 18:2710
    1. Lotus S4 (or an M300)
    2. Corvette� ZR1
    3. Lotus Carlton
    
    	Rik
    
    PS Why did we pick Vauxhall, if 30% of us chose them then 70% did not
    also don't GM own EDS - why are we sponsering them.
    
    �Corvette are owned by GM aren't thay ?
2115.7IMHOBAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionFri Jul 02 1993 18:528
    >>And, re a few back. I thought about it and I can't see
    >>why Calibras shouldn't be on the PCL. Can you explain please?
    
    Based on my experience with other computer companies that have similiar
    Vauxhall schemes, they only allow certain models to get the cheap
    prices, ie just Cavaliers and Astra's, for example.
    
    Greg
2115.8GM :==OASS::BURDEN_DThis is a Studebaker YearFri Jul 02 1993 19:0622
in the US:

 Buick
 Chevrolet (Corvette, Camaro, etc)
 Pontiac (Firebird, Grand Prix, etc)
 Oldsmobile
 Cadillac
 Geo
 GMC Trucks
 (some stake in Saturn)

In Europe:

 Opel

In the UK:

 Vauxhall

In the US there is no immediate link to Saab or Lotus at the moment.

Dave
2115.9all or nothing!MANENG::POWELLMon Jul 05 1993 12:394
    
    LOTUS CARLTON or nothing.....:->
    
    
2115.10Trades Description ActMANENG::POWELLMon Jul 05 1993 12:426
    
    Just like the one in the picture on page .... (ah no page numbers) ...at 
    section 26 of the 'Digitals Car Scheme' Book... well if its in there it 
    MUST be available.
    
    								G.P  
2115.11WELCLU::HEDLEYConquistador Instant LeprosyMon Jul 05 1993 14:468
>If you had to pick 3 GM cars to be on the new FY94 car scheme what would they 
>be ? assuming that the prices to the driver remain much the same as FY93.

Can't say I find any of them particularly appealing.

unhelpfully,

Chris.
2115.12ARRODS::SYSTEMMon Jul 05 1993 15:258
 The new ASTRA convertible is looks stunner, so where is it in the 
 brochure you might add? Does this mean each time there is a new
 model we will get another glossy?  

 Regards,

 Stewart.
2115.13WIZZER::FISCHERI can always sleep standing upMon Jul 05 1993 15:299
I don't think the new cabrio is officially released till
July 7th. even if it came out end of last week, the
brochure wouldn't have it in. I do agree though. The new
cabrio does look good - a lot better than the current 
(previous) shape.



	Ian
2115.14UPROAR::IME257::DAVEDurelli, son of tyre makerFri Jul 09 1993 15:368
The Nova is no more, there is always the Corsa GSI
The senator is no more, or soon to be that way, too.

Don't the Astra GSI and the Calibra 
(and for that matter the cavailier) all get slammed in the Handling and Ride
categories, ie No Driver appeal.

Dave D.
2115.15I'd rate the Cavalier SRiRDGENG::RUSLINGDave Rusling REO2 G/E9 830-4380Fri Jul 09 1993 16:067
	So long as you don't mind it handling like a ship around corners
	(actually for such a heavy car front drive car it goes round quite
	well) it goes like a train on motorways.  It's got a great engine (it'll
	pull in any gear at any speed.

	Dave
2115.16Fords!KERNEL::MORRISWhich universe did you dial?Fri Jul 09 1993 18:013
    How about an estate car the same size as a Mondeo?  ;-)
    
    Jon
2115.17Yak!WOTVAX::HATTOSI think, Therefore I'm paid lessSat Jul 24 1993 17:2511
      <<< Note 2115.16 by KERNEL::MORRIS "Which universe did you dial?" >>>
                                  -< Fords! >-

  >>  How about an estate car the same size as a Mondeo?  ;-)
    
  >>  Jon
    
    Thank God we didn't go for the most boring set of cars around... FORDs
    
    The Mondeo is plain bland, at least Vauxhall/Opel designers design cars
    the rest copy!
2115.18Ah! but....KERNEL::MORRISWhich universe did you dial?Mon Jul 26 1993 10:3916
    Well, without getting personal, I would say "to each his own".
    
    I have enjoyed driving Ford for a few years whereas I don't enjoy
    driving Vauxhall (I realise that UK_CARS may not be the best place in
    the world to admit this but honesty is still the best policy in my
    mind).  I'm afraid I just don't like Vauxhall's ergonomics or driving
    position - sorry!
    
    And anyway, I feel you may have rather missed the point.  I want a
    family saloon size estate and Vauxhall just don't produce one.  I've
    tried an Astra and it feels to small.  I can't afford a Carlton.
    
    So without wishing to wrap another note around the brick and throw it
    back over the wall, I'll take a Mondeo thank you very much.
    
    Jon
2115.19WIZZER::FISCHERI can always sleep standing upMon Jul 26 1993 13:078
Yes. This has been brought up in here already. GM do not
offer a "complete" range of cars. No medium size saloons,
no two seaters, no seven seaters, no MPVs. 

Has this been fed back to CC?


	Ian
2115.20Mondeo - drive and enjoy!MILE::JENKINSSuitably refreshedWed Jul 28 1993 13:5912
    
    .17 as obviously not driven a Mondeo. I've just done 300 miles in a 
    1.6LX over the last couple of days and it's a really good all-rounder. 
    It's the first car I've driven for quite some time that made me want
    to drive it just for the hell of it. Much more fun than a Cavalier!
    
    Great shame that they are not on the 'list'.
    
    Richard.
    
    ps. The Mondeo estate has a greater load area than the Granada.
    
2115.21Ford getting betterVANGA::KERRELLImagine: It&#039;s your business, your money...Wed Jul 28 1993 14:137
re.20:

I have driven a Mondeo. I think it's the best new Ford in years. If they
continue this progress across the range, they have some chance of catching up
with the rest of the manufacturers.

Dave.
2115.22Laugh a minuteMILE::JENKINSSuitably refreshedWed Jul 28 1993 15:273
    
    re .20   As a Vauxhall driver you shouldn't forget the :-)
    
2115.23VANGA::KERRELLImagine: It&#039;s your business, your money...Wed Jul 28 1993 15:336
re.22:

I thought the use of :-) was only for the benefit of our trans-atlantic cousins
and this is CARS_UK.

Dave.
2115.24PLAYER::BROWNLVideo ergo ludoThu Jul 29 1993 09:3710
RE:           <<< Note 2115.20 by MILE::JENKINS "Suitably refreshed" >>>
    
�     ps. The Mondeo estate has a greater load area than the Granada.
    
    I'm not surprised. The load-space in the new Granada estate is
    significantly smaller than in the old one. Just one of the reasons I
    deserted Fords for the first time in years, and bought a Pug 405
    estate instead.
    
    Laurie.