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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2023.0. "Gee Pop what was that?" by SUBURB::PARTRIDGES (Stefan Partridge) Tue Feb 16 1993 14:37

    Walking back today, I came accross a lovely looking car, pitty it was
    dirty. It was a Nissan 300zx. Looked like it was capable of beating a
    Cossie or Ceilca. It had four exhausts and had a badge saying 'Twin
    Turbo' on the back.
    
    1. Does anyone know how much one of this things cost?.
    
    2. How much BHP and touque does it have?
    
    
    Has anyone driving one or sat in one?.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    And how can he/she afford it on the lease scheme?????.
    
    
    
    Stefan
    
    
    
    
    
    
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2023.1MMmm make mine a large one!PEKING::ATKINSATue Feb 16 1993 15:069
    
    Re-1,
    
    I can answer one of those questions.
    
    It costs about 30-35,000 pounds.
    		Not cheap.
    
    	Andy....But very quick.....
2023.2Needs some elbow greaseSUBURB::GROOMNEating between eatingTue Feb 16 1993 15:107
    And I think you'll find he owns it.
    
    The owner sometimes contributes here, perhaps he will get the message
    and give it a clean.
    
    
    Nev.
2023.3LotsCURRNT::CARSONTue Feb 16 1993 17:359
    Not sure of the stats, but I did test drive one last year, very noisy
    inside compare to the current Supra, but a bit faster. Mind you the new
    TwinTurboThreeLitre24ValveStraightSix mit 320bhp & 315lb ft torque
    Supra coming soon will rectify that !
    
    /pc/Still_want_one_though :-)
    
    ps. Just think how many more mpg your getting than him (or her).
    
2023.4UPROAR::DARRALLDDave Darrall, DECtrade , 769-8228Wed Feb 17 1993 09:5610
    Pop down to your local Nissan Dealer (Rose Kiln Lane in Reading, off
    A33) and have a look  at some.   There are H and J regs with low
    mileage going for less than 20K
    
    There is also the 200SX
    and 100NT
    and Sunny GTI-R (rocket)
    and Sunny GTI (top hot hatch)
    
    DD
2023.5Smiling all the way........zooooooomSUBURB::PARTRIDGESStefan PartridgeWed Feb 17 1993 14:2117
    The 200 series nissan is very good. I borrowed a friends last year.
    Gave me a bit of a fright not knowing how powerfull it was until the
    turbo kicked in, before you know it, you are doing 100 mph. Pitty about
    the room though, and the prices are quite good. The one I borrowed had
    air-condition as a standard option I think.
    
    I have found out that the car is capable of 140mph. So the 300zx must
    go a hell of a lot quicker with a bigger engine and second turbo etc.
    
    Can anyone tell me if the twin turbo design is to cut out turbo lag?.
    
    
    Cheers
    
    
    Stefan
    
2023.6Engine/performance specificationsULYSSE::MOLLERWed Feb 17 1993 15:5416
    Engine Capacity: 2960
    Max. Power     : 280 BHP
    Max. Torque    : 372 nm @ 3600 rpm
    
    Max. speed (mph) for manual is 156 and 152 for auto shifter with 0-60
    times of 5.6 and 6.1 seconds respectively. Also has four wheel steering
    and multi link suspension to give it quite a balanced ride under most
    conditions. Not driven the Twin Turbo but have driven my brothers older
    swb 300 ZX turbo with 200 hp which is plenty enough power coming into
    action way down the rev range.
    
    Was the one you saw the long (4 seater) with petrol filler cap behind
    C-pillar or the shorter (2 seater) with petrol filler cap infront-below
    C-pillar?
    
    Graham.
2023.7Not a Porsche 928ULYSSE::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584Wed Feb 17 1993 16:436
    .5� I have found out that the car is capable of 140mph. So the 300zx must
    .5� go a hell of a lot quicker with a bigger engine and second turbo etc.
    
    I have done a number of sessions on race circuits. The 300ZX did not
    impress me at all. The car is obviously very heavy and that is visible
    in acceleration, braking and cornering. Should be OK on the road.
2023.8SUPER HICASCURRNT::CARSONWed Feb 17 1993 17:2518
    re .6
    
    I wouldnt's call it real four wheel steering like the Prelude is. It's 
    some clever jiggery pokerey with the suspension and some electionics
    too.
    
    I test drove the Twin Turbo model and didn't find the pseudo 4ws made
    any difference. Mind you, I wasn't throwing it from lane to lane like
    the salesman suggested I do to feel it in effect. 
    
    Wizzing down the M27 at 90mph, he says 'Right, now chuck it into the
    middle lane quickly', naturally I changed lanes no quicker than I
    normally do. He assures me If I had've done it quickly I'd have noticed
    how well in controll the it would have felt as I did the maneuver.
    
    Have to admit the dashboard was nice though.
    
    /pc
2023.9initial thoughtsHEART::DIDCOCKWed Feb 17 1993 18:4120
    
    	Well I've got a 300,  and its dirty - so possible one and the same.
    I'm still getting used to it, so can't offer `on the limits' driver
    information - but some initial thoughts:
    	Plenty of power
    	Nice seats etc
    	Too much power coming off wet roundabouts
    	In general seems easy to live with
    	RE: A few back - I'm not too keen on the dash - personal I guess
    	Plenty of power (did I say that?)
    
    	I agree with .0 - I like the looks - but my previous car was an
    (old) 911 - which has got the 300 beat (if only) in that department.
    The 300 has far more poke,  much more relaxing to drive distances etc.
    
    Cliff
    
    p.s. RE: The price - I found the salesmen to be pretty flexible these
    days.  Ignore the big numbers written on the windscreen.
    	
2023.10ESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutThu Feb 18 1993 10:219
�    impress me at all. The car is obviously very heavy and that is visible
�    in acceleration, braking and cornering.
    
    Isn't this the usual comment that applies to the bigger Japanese
    'sports cars' ?  And also to American cars ?
    
    Boulevard cruisers - albeit very fast !
    
    J.R.
2023.11CURRNT::CARSONThu Feb 18 1993 12:593
    'Chestwig Chariots' as one car rag puts it.
    
    /pc
2023.12ULYSSE::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584Thu Feb 18 1993 16:5010
    .10�    Isn't this the usual comment that applies to the bigger Japanese
    .10�    'sports cars' ?  And also to American cars ?
    
    I can't generalize. I haven't driven the NSX or even seen one on a race
    circuit. The 300ZX looks like an eye-catcher when stopped in the pits
    but is a disappointment when on the track. I'd like to test the 200SX
    which sounds like good value for money.
    
    As a comparison, a Porsche 928, with similar size, weight, power, is
    much closer to a racing car, even with auto gearbox.
2023.13OASS::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatThu Feb 18 1993 17:2025
re .9

>Well I've got a 300
A friend just bought one too, only it's a rag top

>    	Plenty of power
I haven't driven it yet, but he says it could use a bit more...

>    	Nice seats etc
They're okay I guess

>    	Too much power coming off wet roundabouts
Takes awhile to get used to the handling though, the locked diff might
cause of the problems

>    	In general seems easy to live with
Yes, but it does get stares from lots of people

>    	RE: A few back - I'm not too keen on the dash - personal I guess
A bit bland really
    
Oh, wait a minute!  You guys are talking about the 300*ZX*...
Sorry, I thought this was the Isetta note....:-)

Dave
2023.14Re. Wet roundabouts / handlingESBS01::RUTTERRut The NutThu Feb 18 1993 17:225
�Takes awhile to get used to the handling though, the locked diff might
    
    So these [did] exist on road vehicles ?
    
    J.R.
2023.15actually...OASS::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatThu Feb 18 1993 17:264
The Isetta has no differential, it's a solid
axle driven by a chain.

Dave
2023.16Eat this.....Porsche...(Bang!!)SUBURB::PARTRIDGESStefan PartridgeFri Feb 19 1993 09:3619
    I saw a car mag (fast car, I think), it had a picture of a nissan 300zx
    with the roof removed. This is only available in America at the moment.
    Looked much more sexy than the hard top though. It also had 6 exhausts
    coming of the back, nice crome bore ones. Also in this mag for anyone
    who drives a calbra, a softtop version, which I think vauxhall should
    introduce into the range.
    
    I looked inside the 300zx down the Nissan showroom here in Reading. I
    loved it!!!. Once you are inside every thing is within easy reach,
    especialy all the gadgets on either side of the steering wheel. You
    can also change radio stations which is situated on the steering wheel.
    
    
    PS. WOULD LOOK A HOLE LOT BETTER AND SPORTER IF IF HAD A BETTER FRONT
    UNDERSIDE, AND POP UP LIGHTS.
    
    
    Stefan
    
2023.17Better looking than doing.CURRNT::CARSONFri Feb 19 1993 10:089
    Better with out pop-ups I think. They might look flash but it's a pain
    when you want to.
    
    I like the rear light cluster of the 300zx. Looks great on the motor
    way at night. The doors although not framed do have a pillar going half
    wat up, helps keep the door and window rigid at speed and when closing.
    If you've ever shut a Supra door you'll know what I mean.
    
    /pc
2023.18A downer on pop-upsHEART::DIDCOCKFri Feb 19 1993 10:396
    
    	One of the things I particularly liked about the look of the car
    was the fact that the lights aren't `pop-ups'.   Obv. a personel
    thing, but I think they look daft up.
    
    	C