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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1928.0. "Sportscar Racing 1993" by NEWOA::SAXBY (Mean and Brooklands Green!) Thu Oct 22 1992 10:39

    
    Well, I'm an optimist, so here it is the SPORTSCAR RACING 1993 Note.
    
    Discuss such things as the proposed GT regulations, entries for Le
    Mans, IMSA racing, the non-championship series of 1000 km races
    proposed for Europe.
    
    To get things going, MN reports (with quotes from TWR) that Jaguar/TWR
    are to prepare a works XJ220 team for the Daytona 24 hour race. Cars
    will be made available to customers (Chamberlain are rumoured to be
    interested) at a cost of 390,000 Pounds (30K more than roadgoing
    XJ220s).
    
    There are rumours (so far unsubstantiated) of a series of 1000 Km races
    at circuits in Europe (Including Silverstone (boo), Spa (Hooray!) and 
    the Nurburgring (so what?)). Whether these happen will probably depend
    on whether other teams and manufacturers follow Jaguar's example and
    build cars to the GT regs.
    
    Le Mans should be full of all sorts of odds and sods, but expect the 
    3.5 litre cars from Peugeot to be the front runners unless some other
    manufacturer comes forward with a series contender (IMSA category
    Toyotas or Jaguars perhaps?).
    
    1993 could be interesting, after all.
    
    Mark
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1928.1with the right atmosphere !!!VIVIAN::G_COOMBERSYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT,I need a holidayMon Oct 26 1992 15:5649
    Rather than dig the perverbial rathole in the F1 note I thought a reply
    here was better.
    
    
    I fully support Marks view that sportscar racing's death was a year too
    late !!!!!!!! This years championship was not worthy of the name and in
    my opinion was a complete and utter farce. Peugoet or toyota were the
    only real prospects of doing any good. The championship was doomed to
    fail as far back as 1989 when the 3.5 litre class was pushed out. Just 
    look at the intrest that there was then, Spice, they already ran 3.5 in
    C2. I suspect that the only reason that Jaguar, Mercedes etc even
    thought about 3.5 was that at the time they wanted in, that was a
    position forced on them if they wanted in. I don't know why anyone
    bothered to listen to peugeot last year when they pulled the
    championships out of the fire. When all the real big players pulled out
    what was the point. It's all past history now, if anything this years 
    championship did more damage to sportscar racing than not running it
    would have.  I suspect that the only reason that anyone put in for the
    championship was 1 race , Le Mans. Aston Martin's return was for that
    alone.
    
    
    I believe that sportscar racing will return and stronger than it has
    been since 90. It has happended in the past , sportscar racing took a
    dive then returned. Sportscar racing has been this route before and
    each time a long distance endurance championship emerged. Thats what
    the teams want and thats what the spectators want. If it means putting
    together a series of races where the spirit is right it will all come
    together. If nothing happens in 93, then sportscar racing is dead, it
    will only be people running nothing races with no backing or support.
    I do beleive that there is enough intrest with sponsors/makers and
    private teams to put on a good show at Le Mans every year, provided
    they keep it the way it was and Fisa don't try to screw around with 
    the spirit of the event.
    
    Provided that any form of championship has Le Mans as it's Centre
    piece, is not ridiculously expensive, not requiring a multi million
    pound development budget, and attracts a good crowd making it worth
    circuits wanting races, it will happen. Create the right atmosphere, the
    right circumstances and get the right people intrested, the rest will
    come. What is needed is someone to pull all that together , assuming it
    is done for sport and not for money, it will happen.
    
    
     Garry
    
    
    
    Garry
1928.2ULYSSE::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584Mon Oct 26 1992 16:429
    .0�    To get things going, MN reports (with quotes from TWR) that Jaguar/TWR
    .0�    are to prepare a works XJ220 team for the Daytona 24 hour race. Cars
    .0�    will be made available to customers (Chamberlain are rumoured to be
    
    I have seen 1100kg on a spec sheet. Have ACO or FISA published an
    official rule for peak engine power ? They were talking about a 400 or
    450 bhp upper limit.
    
    I fully share Mark's views. This will be FUN !
1928.3Big Money, bad newsVIVIAN::G_COOMBERSYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT,I need a holidayMon Oct 26 1992 18:2214
    
    Just a point , yeh it will be intresting. The reason why is because it
    is not driven by money. It's people racing because they want to race.
    It needs some money , a top team to give it a professional appearance.
    Argue that point if you like , but I think the important thing is that
    when the fun goes out and the big money comes in it's only time before
    the real racers go . I think yer mercedes and Jaguar pulled out because
    the money aspect was getting too silly. Mercedes were thought to have
    poured more money into the c291 project than someone like Mclaren last
    season, and for what ???
    
    
    Garry
    
1928.4Silverstone on SundaySHIPS::HERLIHY_Jtotally reckless; almost wrecklessThu May 06 1993 21:1614
    Nigel (T-BAR) Guest writing via the above mentioned.
    
    
    Seems to have been a bit quiet in here recently...
    
    Looking at the paper, i understand that a GT race involving 220's is
    on at Silverstone this weekend (Sunday).
    
    Not to sure what other types are involved (would be nice to see the
    Lotus's).
    
    Anyone else know more (or interested in going) ?
    
    pp.   Nigel (available on 081-305-1221) Guest.
1928.5F3000IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri May 07 1993 13:401
    This is a support race for the International F3000 series round 2.