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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1742.0. "Importing a car into the UK" by SYSTEM::ZENTNER (fire walk with me) Wed Apr 08 1992 18:45

I want to buy a car from a friend in France. Its a Renault 5.
It's about ten years old.

Does anyone have any information on import duty, taxes or
any other problems that I might experience ?

Many thanks


	Adam
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1742.1RUTILE::BISHOPIf at first you don't succeed, lower your standards!Thu Apr 09 1992 10:133
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    	He's just going through this same thing.
1742.2FIZGIG::BIGGINMInterplanetary� Explorer Extraordinaire!Thu Apr 09 1992 11:036
    Adam,
    
    You buying Helene's car then?
    
    
    	Matt.
1742.3SYSTEM::ZENTNERfire walk with meThu Apr 09 1992 13:508
That's the idea ...

Although I seem to be collecting a lot of warnings !!

Did you by any chance take a look at it ?


Adam
1742.4FIZGIG::BIGGINMInterplanetary� Explorer Extraordinaire!Thu Apr 09 1992 15:0420
    
    I was the one who was dragged by the young lady to many garages to
    translate into English her instructions as to what she wanted the car
    to have done to it.
    
    I think the engine's sound, she was always paranoid about it going
    wrong but I don't think it's quite that bad.
    
    It's also got alot of the old French body roll but then that could have
    been Helene's driving, in case you never experienced her driving, it
    was ruddy awful!  She seemed to be looking ahead but not seeing
    anything until it was two inches away!!
    
    Judging by how paranoid she was about it I would say it wasn't a bad
    car as if it made a squeak she'd take it to the garage, and there are
    plenty of Renault garages around in England if you get any problems.
    
    Better you than me though mate,
    
    	Matt.
1742.5SYSTEM::ZENTNERfire walk with meThu Apr 09 1992 16:1110
I was particularly interested in the rust on the car 
particularly underneath ...

Any memories ...

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     Adam

1742.6Couldn't tell ya.FIZGIG::BIGGINMInterplanetary� Explorer Extraordinaire!Thu Apr 09 1992 16:398
    
    
    I tried not to get near the underside of Helene's car so I'm afraid I
    don't know.
    
    Why do you need her car then?
    
    	Matt.
1742.7SYSTEM::ZENTNERfire walk with meThu Apr 09 1992 18:026
>    Why do you need her car then?
    
I was looking for a car that was least likly to get stolen !


Adam
1742.8FIZGIG::BIGGINMInterplanetary� Explorer Extraordinaire!Thu Apr 09 1992 18:157
    
    Yup that's Helene's alright!  I don't think anyone would actually want
    to steal that car.
    
    It has got a spoiler on the back though?
    
    	Matt.
1742.9more informationMETSYS::ZENTNERfire walk with meMon Apr 13 1992 10:477
I am still interested in any details anyone has 
about importing vehicles into the UK. Does anyone else
have any information.

Thanks

	Adam
1742.10It's almost easy, except for the rules of course ??AYOU16::RDODDThu Apr 23 1992 15:4712
    
    
    Well, I just imported my truck into the UK in November. Assuming the
    vehicle is more than one year old (which in this case it seems to be)
    there's no tax or duty to be paid. Upon landing you get a customs
    certificate from HM CnE. This certificate, plus a current MOT are reqd
    to let you re_register the vehicle.
    
    The only hassle that I had was with the beurocracy at the DMV.
    
    Good luck,
    RR
1742.11NSDC::SIMPSONThu Apr 23 1992 16:0712
I imported my VW Camper two weeks ago. I couldn't interest HM Customs in it -
they would not give me a certificate (unlike -.1) because it was 'obvious' that
the car wasn't new - blooming cheek! I don't know the rules on this - however
they only seem to be interested in duty (27.5% ?) on obviously new cars.

Get an MOT based on the chassis number.

Go to the licensing centre with the MOT and valid insurance documentation (I
used my brother-in-law's) and they'll issue you with a plate and send off to
Swansea for the documentation.

Steve
1742.12UPROAR::EVANSGGwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtradeThu Apr 23 1992 18:366
    I'm sure that a Top Gear program a couple of weeks ago, when talking
    about inporting cars from the States, mentioned that the age had to be
    ten years before C&E wouldn't be interested.
    
    The differences could be (a) importing from Europe rather than the USA
    or (b) importing a car vs 'something else'.
1742.13PLAYER::BROWNLand then... another minute passedFri Apr 24 1992 09:1011
    You need notice 3A from HM C&E.
    
    The rules have changed slightly for importing from within the EC, but,
    unless the car has had VAT paid on it at some stage in its life, HM C&E
    will levy it regardless of age and length of ownership. Naturally, you
    always fall foul of this if importing from outside the EC.
    
    Even if VAT has been paid, a *new* car is liable to both import duty of
    10%, and car tax (now 5%).
    
    Laurie.
1742.14The EC treaties forbid duty on internal tradeJANUS::BARKERJeremy Barker - T&N/CBN Diag. Eng. - Reading, UKFri Apr 24 1992 13:3812
Re: .13

>    Even if VAT has been paid, a *new* car is liable to both import duty of
>    10%, and car tax (now 5%).
    
The EC is a Customs Union.  This means that no duty is ever payable on any
transaction between member states (however some special rules apply to
Spain and Portugal until their membership transition periods expire).

Car Tax is a purely local UK matter.

jb
1742.15Nearly there ...CHEFS::OSBORNECMon Apr 27 1992 11:1718
    
    re .14 --
    
    
    Not at all sure about the completeness of the Customs Union. It may well
     be one day (year), but it certainly wasn't last week, between UK & 
    France -- my experience waiting behind someone clearing customs.
    
    Must confess my normal experience is of long queues at Dover on the 6-8
    times a year I go over -- usually no queue or check at the French end!
    
    Still a general rule that if VAT paid in one country you're OK in the
    next, but my understanding from the freight forwarding trade is that
    until VAT is harmonised (if ever), there may well be aberrations.
    
    The only time I've been stopped at Dover in the last 3 years is when
    I've had motorcycles on my trailer -- HMC usually stop me & make sure
    they have UK plates. No checks of docs, just the plates .........!