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1581.1 | | CHEST::RUTTER | I am IBOS 2 !!! | Tue Oct 29 1991 09:01 | 11 |
| �How about any other kits ? The braking of the RHD VWs (based on A1 chassis)
�is really bad. It does work but requires a heavy foot.
Isn't the problem caused by the linkage across the engine bay which
is used to 'convert' from lhd to rhd ?
If so, I have a feeling a stronger tubular bar is available.
That will improve the braking feel and translate more pedal
effort into actual braking force.
J.R.
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1581.2 | Yeah. | SUBURB::SCREENER | Robert Screene, UK Finance EUC | Wed Oct 30 1991 13:50 | 53 |
| I can relate to this!
The RHD conversion for the MK1 Golf was a bit of a mess up. Something
like 9 pivot points, all adding to lost motion over time.
A VW specialist tighened up the linkage for me (called 'raising the
pedel"). This made a big difference to feel not having to get both feet
on the brake to do an emergency stop!
Another big improvement was replacing my worn front disks with new ones
(�50 a pair, vented fir a MK1 GTI). Check the disk width to ensure it's
not near the minimum size, this really changes the fade characteristics
and feel. I wouldn't have believed the difference!
A cost-effective check is to ensure you're rear drum/shoes are working
properly. There is an automatic wedge adjuster in most MK1 Models which
sometimes gets a little stuck. It can be reached by removing the rear
wheel and using a very small screwdriver to hook into a small hole at the
bottom point of the wedge. Then ensure it's pushed down nice and tight
(handbrake off at the time). You'll find it at the 5 past one position
on the driver/right hand side rear wheel. The left side is a mirror
image.
Pad Compound:
I did try Tar-Ox Pads, a harder compound said to be compatible with
standard disks. However I think the wrong pads were sent, a very hard
racing compound; I allowed the pads 2 month's wear expecting the
graunching noises to go away! I'm back on OE pads again. Perhaps the
correct Tar-Ox pads would make a big difference (�50 for front set).
Apparently Mintex 171(?) pads improve the feel but at the expense of
squeeling when not hot.
Linkage:
Fitting a big servo is really a workaround. The problem is really the
linkage, LHD Golfs are superior in this respect.
Autocavan produce a "Superbrake" linkage replacement made of a thick bar
which uses a twisting movement over the push/pull motion of the VW
original. I think this is about �100 fitted.
A very good VW/Porsche Specialist in the Basingstoke/Reading are is
Banus Motorsport tel.0256 817685 The owner (Bob) is very knowledgable
on such things and can fit all the above mentioned changes.
I have some articles on the subject. Let me know if you want me to put
them in the mail.
Regards,
Robert.
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1581.3 | Tighter linkage == less pressure needed ?? | ZPUPPY::SEOWHURN | | Thu Oct 31 1991 10:42 | 22 |
| Re: -1
Hmmm, that's what I suspected but my mechanic seemed reluctant to touch
the linkage - it's probably a not a pleasant job. Guess I'll take the
car back to the VW agent. The disk, drum and pads seem fine, I didn't
really remember seeing an automatic wedge adjuster, though... are you
referring to the rear drum brake cylinders ?
I've just changed the front pads - original VWs, costly and
dust-pollutor but seems to work alright.
Did tightening the linkage actually reduce the amount of pressure
needed to do emergency stops ? My brakes have "sunk" a bit but will
work decently with a heavy foot - which is why I thought a bigger servo
pump might help lighten the pressure needed.
Yes, please articles on the wooden brake will certainly be appreciated.
My mail address: Seow-Hurn Lim @ZPO
Regards
Seow-Hurn
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1581.4 | Purely out of interest | CHEST::RUTTER | The Joy Of Six(es) | Thu Oct 31 1991 11:34 | 23 |
| � The RHD conversion for the MK1 Golf was a bit of a mess up. Something
� like 9 pivot points, all adding to lost motion over time.
This seems a strange setup.
I would expect a few less pivot points, being :-
1 the pedal bushing
2 connection between pedal and 'push-rod'
3 connection between 'push-rod' and lever arm, fixed to rod
4+5 a bushing on each end of the horizontal rod from r.h.s. to l.h.s.
6 connection between lever arm and master cylinder push-rod
If this isn't how VW implemented the linkage, can you describe how
the linkage works ? My idea seems, to me, quite simple and still
leaves a lot of scope for free play, or wasted pedal movement.
J.R.
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1581.5 | | SUBURB::SCREENER | Robert Screene, UK Finance EUC | Thu Oct 31 1991 12:13 | 23 |
| RE: .-1
Yeah, that's the ticket. About 9 bush/pivot points in total.
RE: .-2 The adjustment to the linkage was done in about 40 seconds and
was down by the brake pedel, inside the car. It did reduce effort
required, because you don't have to push so far (and slightly because
of the law of leverage).
Another change I didn't mention was fitting Tar-Ox disks. A
replacement pair of disks for the MK1 to work with standard calipers and
within 13 inch wheels costs about �100 (plus the specific harder
Tar-Ox Pads at �50). I think these are vented and slotted for beter
cooling. This is getting a bit serious though, however I wouldn have
thought a new servo would be similarly expensive.
Another interesting thing I found out when looking into this...
My Insurers did NOT take a disk/pad conversion as an excuse to
load my premium, as it was not considered to improve the
performance of the car. Just a mechanical debug!
Regards,
Robert.
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