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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:	Cars in the UK
Notice:	Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:	COMICS::SHELLEYELD

Created:	Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2584
Total number of notes:	63384

1339.0. "Road re-numbering" by SIEVAX::CORNE (Sometimes you get the Elevator, sometimes the Shaft) Mon Jan 14 1991 08:30

I heard on the radio this morning that many roads in Oxfordshire change number, 
starting from today. This is to coincide (well, close, only two days out!)
with the new M40 extension opening. Not just one or two roads, but quite a
long list. Radio announcer joked that it was done to coincide with the
opening of a bottle of whisky rather than a new motorway....

So now my brand new atlas, which marks the M40 as open (well, someone moved the
dates after the book went to be printed) is now out of date. I wonder if
DOT would consider giving me a refund - somehow I doubt it.

Is there a need to change road numbers that have been that way for years?

Jc

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1339.1	What's the point?	SPAWN::BRIGHT	Coffee Darling? Ah, Capuccino...	`Mon Jan 14 1991 08:52`	4
	Road re-numbering causes a lot of confusion. The road between M3/J5 and Spencers Wood etc became the B3349 before I arrived on the scene in 1985, yet some (most?, all?) road atlases still refer to it as the A32.
1339.2		VOGON::BALL	One's flu is over (the Cookoo's nest)	`Fri Jan 25 1991 15:50`	10
	Renumbering makes sense if a new road has been built so the existing road takes a back seat. In the example in .1 the DOT want less drivers to use the old road and this is more likely if its called the B3349 and sounds like its some godforsaken little byway than if its still called the A32. Drivers will use the wonderful shiny new A32 instead. I do agree though that they sometimes go crazy on renumbering and do it for no readily apparent reason. Jon
1339.3		SPAWN::BRIGHT	Coffee Darling? Ah, Capuccino...	`Fri Jan 25 1991 16:01`	8
	>>godforsaken little byway than if its still called the A32. Drivers will use the >>wonderful shiny new A32 instead. I agree in principle, but in this specific instance, there is no shiny new A32. Whereas the A32 used to go all the way from Petersfield up to Reading, crossing the M3 at junction 5, it now ends at junction 5, where you start running along the B3349. I'm sure there was a jolly good reason for it at the time, but it doesn't spring to mind.
1339.4		VOGON::BALL	One's flu is over (the Cookoo's nest)	`Fri Jan 25 1991 17:13`	5
	Re .prev OK, sorry, I guess it falls into my second category then - the DOT went crazy. Jon
1339.5	I use the map, not the roadsigns	JANUS::BARKER	Jeremy Barker - T&N/CBN Diag. Eng. - Reading, UK	`Sat Jan 26 1991 21:42`	11
	The A32 was renumbered the B3349 because megabucks were spent on improving the A339 between Basingstoke and Alton. The powers that be want all the traffic to take the A33 from Reading to Basingstoke, then the A339 to Alton. The B3349 has a number of sharp bends and is narrow in places. This blithely ignores the fact that the "new" route is 26 miles (from M4 J11 to Alton) compared with 22 miles for the "old" route. I always use the "old" route when travelling that way. Unless you drive illegally you will not save any time by driving the "new" way (it may even take longer). jb
1339.6		CRATE::RUTTER	Rut the Nut	`Mon Jan 28 1991 11:05`	7
	Anyone know any details on the road-works alongside the A325, which I presume to be an extension of the A3 north-bound, incorporating a by-pass of Petersfield ? When that is complete, I expect it to be renumbered too. J.R.
1339.7		VULCAN::SMITHP1	CANDUB Rebel Tour '89	`Tue Feb 19 1991 17:17`	8
	>.... Whereas the A32 used to go all the way from Petersfield up >to Reading, crossing the M3 at junction 5, it now ends at junction 5, >where you start running along the B3349... The latest road atlas I checked shows the bit of A32 between Odiham and Alton has been B-numbered too !! p1