Conference terri::cars_uk

    
    Am in Cannes so a long way from my reference books.
    
    Think the number is considerably higher for Jags, but only 380 approx
    Daimlers built.
    
    I'm looking for a nice one, but 13k pounds is not on. Your figure is
    more realistic, even for a good car. Lot of optomists about .....
    
    Know of an immaculate black Daimler XJ12C in Ascot. Am gently probing
    to find out if available, at what price.
    
    Colin

	I believe it was 2500 XJ4.2Cs, and only 700 5.3Cs...

	The 5.3 is the one to have, but difficult to find.

    
    
    I have seen a Jaguar V12 5.3 in a local garage, with four flat tyres, 
    different coloured bonnet & boot & only one door attached, in addition
    the roof has been cut off in preparation for a softop. I asked the
    mechanic what plans were in store for it & he said that it was an
    abandoned project, left with them by a customer & there were no
    specific plans in place.
    
    I understand that, given that the engine is reasonable, the thing could be
    restored to MOT state for around 4k.....tempting, yet I expect that 4k
    could run to 5 & so on. 
    
    I don't believe the car, as it is, would fetch more than 1k...so it
    could be a good project. If you've 5 or 6 thousand lying around !!
    
    
    
    Adam.
    

    re: .3

    But is it the XJCoupe ??? Thats what make all the difference in price.
    The coupe is easily the nicest looking of the XJ series, maybe including
    the XJS :'}. The coupe is easy to distinguish from the normal XJ by the
    fact that it is pillarless i.e. no metal between the front and rear side 
    windows, just glass.

  Mark

	Also easy to distinguish as it only has two doors...

Not moving in the right sort of social circles, I've never been close enough to
an XJC to see... but how does the door glass seal at its rear edge if there's
no door pillar?

Scott

    re: .6

    By good workmanship. Not many constructors can manage it, especially
    hard is keeping the seal at 100mph plus. Apparantly William Lyons was
    behind the design and insisted that the seal be good at all speeds.

  Mark

    Quick question...
    
    What's the Jaguar Model/Series as shown in the "Tennant's" Advert ?
    Also used in the film "Mona Lisa" by Bob Hoskins ? 
                                                       
    I thought *THAT* was the model under discussion here until the "door
    pillars" description was added. 
    
    IMO, I'd expect one of these <mumble> Jaguar's to be around 3-5K, for
    an unrestored model, or 8-10K restored ? They seem to getting a lot of
    attention recently and should be "readily" available ? 
    
    Any ideas anyone ?

    
    Probably going completely off the subject, but which model did Steed
    drive in the New Avengers ?
    
    Nigel

	A somewhat modified Daimler XJ5.3C I think...

	I believe it lives somewhere near Epsom these days,
	although maybe someone's just done one up to look like it.

Yes, but what is the seal?  Is it just glass - glass (ie door glass butts up
to rear side glass) or is there a rubber strip between the two bits of glass?
Or something else altogether?

Scott

    
    RE: .4
    
    Yes, its an XJC, a Jaguar V12 5.3
    
    RE: .8
    
    The car your interested in is a MKII & you're right, these cars have an
    almost cult following in my experience.
    
    
    
    Adam.

re: .11

   I've no idea what the seal is. Thinking about it again, pillarless means
   that when the windows are wound down, there is no pillar between them, so
   it could be that the edge of the window forms the pillar i.e perhaps some
   sort of chrome strip, with a rubber seal at the edge.

Mark

   I think so ...

	Wind down? You mean glide down at the touch of a button...

    
    The car used in the New Avengers was an XJC.
    
    It had the body kit like the ill-fated Broadspeed racing XJCs (used
    in the European Touring Car Championships in the mid-70s), but was
    in fact just a standard V12 (fast enough for most) under the skin.
    
    Mark

	I should say fast enough... 0-60 in 7 seconds and 150mph?

	Makes quite a few modern sports cars look a bit silly...

	And all with fuel consumption in double figures (just).

�	And all with fuel consumption in double figures (just).
    
    About 3.5? Well there're two numbers! :^)
    
    Mark

    
    A friend of mine had a Daimler 4.2 Coupe. The back windows didn't wind
    down but more back and down. They had a rubber seal on them. However
    the reason the 2 door was discontinued was primarily this seal not
    working. The 5.3s are much rarer than the 4.2s, the manual 5.3 Jaguar
    is the rarest and most sought after. 
    
    Chris.

    
    
    
      Are those performace figures accurate ??!! In addition, I believe the
    fuel consumption is listed at 18mpg.
    
    
    
    
    Adam.

    18mpg from a 5.3 is VERY hard to achieve.  The early models were lucky
    to make double figures at all.  Bank on 8-12 mpg as reality, then you
    may ocassionally get a nice surprise.
    
    brian	(Yes, I'm back!)
    

    I used to get 15-16 LITRES/100 km at 150 - 160 kmh on the autobahns.
    22 - 25L/100 km at 250 kmh
    
    Consumption would climb to 18 - 21 L/100 km in cities.
    
    The figures quoted are "from new" throught the life of the car.
    
    	George Frost