Conference terri::cars_uk

For interest, new Morgan prices are (actually June 89 prices):

+4: �15075 to �16819
+8: �19528

I assume these are without VAT, car tax etc.

1989 +8s fetch �30000.  The massive waiting list pushes the price of newish cars
through the roof.  The old joke is put your name on the Morgan list for two
cars, then when they arrive four years later sell one for twice what you paid
for it, and get a free morgan!

They apparently have very bad handling and are generally regarded as overpriced,
even the new prices; you're paying a lot for the name.  Also, they need looking
after; I've met sad morgan owners whose cars have woodworm / rot / ...

Hope that's some help.

Scott.

    You do not buy Morgans in this country, you inherit places on the
    waiting list to be considered as an owner :-)
    
    Seriously, current prices for cars are for something silly like a 2 or
    3 year waiting list, so they would not be terribly relavent, if you are
    looking for a purchase price to compare with!, I agree with -1, +8's
    are like gold-dust, and fetch "silliar than thou" prices, often well
    above list price for a second hand car!
    
    Carl

	I once worked with a man who ordered a Morgan +8 and actually 
	lived long enough to have it delivered. He ran around in it for
	a while and then decided to sell. It took many months to find a
	buyer at �5,000 or so. This would have been circa '83. It also
	proved somewhat troublesome during the few thousand miles he ran
	it including a breakdown on the way to work one day.

	Apart from the profit aspect a reason people always seem to sell
	them when they arrive is that the youthful enthusiasm for open
	topped wind in the air motoring tends to fade into the problems
	of living on a small pension when the great day arrives.

	Incidentally at the same period a guy in our office popped out one
	day and came back with a Ferrari 308 (only a GT4 I'm afraid) which
	he'd bought for �4,500 or so. It had novel ventilated sills, ie.
	it had rusted right through. He said he used it mainly for "Posing"
	and shortly traded it for a Golf Gti. 

	Ah nostalgia!, not what it used to be though.

	-John

    Got to agree with the other notes posted - new car has impossible
    waiting list, second-hand don't appear too often and when they do
    don't be surprised to find rot. For a handbuilt car they don't seem
    to build much 'durability' into the thing.
    
    Sources for prices and s'hand sales would be in magazines like Classic
    Car and Practical Classics.
    
    As to shipping - if you are in the London area or some kind Deccie
    on YUPPIE:: wants to help, then you should get copies of the
    Australasian 'giveaways' like LAM and TNT. These magazines have
    loads of shippers in the classified adds who are very experienced
    in the methods of shipping cars to NZ and AUS. One thing you're
    friend will need to find out is how long he has to own the car in
    England before he can get the tax-free benefits of shipping his
    car to NZ.
    
    Keep your fingers crossed, you might get the use of a Morgan for
    6 mths !

For those in the UK:

Next week's "The Troubleshooter" (Sir John Harvey-Jones analysing the financial
prospects of various firms) on BBC2, Tuesday, is about the Morgan Car Company.

Apparently Morgan want to increase production by 1 car a week...

H-J may suggest something radical...

/. Ian .\

In a recent edtion of either C&S or T&CC there is an article on buying/
restoring older Morgans.....If needed, I can look up the issue and perhaps
copy the article and send it along...

    Try Libra Motive
        6-10 Rosemont Road (Off Finchly Road)
        London NW3 6NE 
        Tel 071-435-8159
    
    They always have a reasonable selection in stock and are anywhere
    from 7K upwards.                                            
                                                                
                                                                
    or Allon White & Sons                                       
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    Beds. tel 0234-750205                                       
                                                                
                                                                
    Pete