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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

897.0. "Diesel prices: why so variable ?" by SAC::JEPSON (Eschew Obfuscation) Tue Dec 19 1989 11:38

         To diesel car owners out there ...

         I'm considering getting a diesel car from the scheme (if
         fleet can ever provide the quote).

         In October when I first entered the quote diesel fuel was
         retailing at anything between 166 and 171 pence per gallon.

         I notice now I'm seeing prices of 181 pence !!

         1. Prices are much more variable between filling stations than
            petrol - why is this ?
            Are there grades of diesel ?

         2. Why don't prices increases like those I've noticed above
            get the same level of publicity as petrol ?

         It seems to me filling stations can charge whatever they feel
         like for diesel without harming their competitive edge (or
         whatever).

         Any views people ?

         Andy

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897.16Direct injectionNDLIS4::JRICHARDSCity rumour, Japan Corp. buys UK PLCTue Jan 02 1990 08:366
    AUDI have got a direct injection diesel that is supposed to be very
    clean and economical. VW have also produced a direct injecton petrol 
    engine that doesn't require a Cat to meet the new emission standards 
    (91/92).            
       
    Jan
897.17bargain petrol/sugarbeet juice!SHAPES::STREATFIELDCWIZARD STUFFTue Jan 02 1990 13:355
    BASINGSTOKE PETROL, 
    The Best place (cheapest) I have found is Sanisburys own station,
    adjacent to their superstore, they are usually 7 - 10 pence cheaper
    than anywhere else.
    
897.18PEKING::TAYLORGBodybuilders do it till it hurtsMon Feb 12 1990 18:074
    The SHELL garage near DECpark is selling $* at �1.89 and Deisel
    at �1.69.
    
    Grant
897.19 My 10 pn'orth! SUBURB::POWELLMNostalgia isn't what it used to be!Fri Feb 19 1993 14:2537
    
    	Re last.  The Garage outside DECpark is now selling Diesel at 49.9p
    per Litre (�2.041 per gallon!), can't say I notice the price of petrol.
    
    	Re a few back.  Unleaded Petrol does NOT mean lead free - only
    Diesel is totally lead free!  Unleaded petrol only has none (well, lets
    be honest - very little added - yes, it's true!).  So Diesel is much more
    environmentally friendly than unleaded or leaded petrol.  As has been
    written before, because less Diesel is burnt in a given car than the
    equivalent petrol version, proportionally less Carbon Dioxide is
    produced, hence less greenhouse effect.  Also Diesel produces very
    little Carbon Monoxide due to the much more efficient combustion
    process.  Nitrous Oxides produced are much lower than the equivalent
    petrol version, hence Diesels are not normally fitted with "Cats"
    although as a previous note mentioned they could be.
    
    	The only real objection is the smell as far as I can tell.
    
    	With the advent of Turbo-Diesels, the perfomance is in the same
    ball park as the petrol equivelant car, but the economy is in a much
    better league.  Not only that, I'm seeing in new car price lists, that
    the Diesel variant of some cars is actually CHEAPER than the petrol
    version!!!  This I'm told is due to the ever increasing cost of
    de-tox'ing the petrol engined car with fuel injection (standard on
    Diesels of course), Cats etc. etc.  Don't ask me which make 'cos I
    can't remember, but I think it may have been the Citroen ZX range.
    The latest Statistics for car sales show that Diesel cars accounted for 
    no less than 12.5% of the total last year, compared with 1% 10 years ago, 
    so a lot of people are getting the message!
    
    	Regarding the price of Diesel fuel, there isn't a public outcry
    every time the price goes up, simply because it is a minority interest,
    only 1 in 8 cars sold are Diesel.  Hence the oil companies can exploit
    the market more easily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    				Malcolm - with a vested interest. 8^)
                           
897.20FORTY2::PALKAFri Feb 19 1993 15:569
    re .19
    
    Do you mean unleaded diesel has less lead than unleaded petrol ?
    
    Re Turbo-Diesel. What do you mean by 'petrol equivalent car' ? Do you
    mean a petrol engined car with performance in the same ball park ? If
    so, then of course the Turbo-Diesel performs the same !!
    
    Andrew