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393.12 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | No time for catching 'Zee's | Mon Sep 06 1993 11:43 | 6 |
| Anyone out there knowledgeable with 2CV's ? If so could you check out
my note in IOSG::AIR_COOLED 71.4
Thanks
Royston
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393.13 | 2CVs - real personality cars! | CHEFS::POWELLM | The x3030 contractor. | Tue Jan 30 1996 14:57 | 16 |
| NO, mine is just over 2 years old now. That one only came out last
year, can't remember the name of it, Xantia "something" I think.
Mine eats front tyres fast enough due to the computer controlled
suspension - takes the shoulders off, especially the inside shoulders
where you don't realise it has happened. The Lord only knows what
will happen if the tyres take ALL the cornering strain completely flat.
2CVs are very smooth engines, especially for a 2-cyl one. Both
cylinders fire together, instead of alternately to balance out the
forces (perhaps force is an understatement). Not a lot of people know
that. Sheila has one, her only problems are that the steering is
incredibly heavy and the fuel consumption is only in the low 30's which
several garages have said that is all one should expect - even on long
runs!
Malcolm.
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393.14 | 2CV rathole cont. | COMICS::SHELLEY | Thats all I have to say about that | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:14 | 18 |
| >fuel consumption is only in the low 30's which several garages have
>said that is all one should expect
Nah! My other half's 2CV gets low 40's mpg and most other folk I know
who have had them have got up to 50 mpg.
Low 30's mpg is very poor unless it spends all its time in heavy
traffic.
By the way all post '86 2CV's can run on unleaded without conversion (I
run one tank of 4* to 3 of unleaded).
May have to get rid of it this year though as the heater is too poor
for these very cold mornings and I've been reliably informed that
another winter will not pass with this form of transport in our
possession.
Royston
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393.15 | He's still got one... | 44648::MCKAYRE | | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:20 | 16 |
| It wouldn't be Xantia activa would it ?
From what I remember I used to get 39 mpg out of my 602cc 2CV (day 2
day) and I even had over 75mph out of it once or twice.
ex-2CV owner tip no. 1: Get your floor renforced
2: Do not drive in strong winds/rain, they both
get in.
3: Your Grannie will feel sea sick in it.
Rory...
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393.16 | :-) | COMICS::SHELLEY | Thats all I have to say about that | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:28 | 5 |
| >I even had over 75mph out of it once or twice.
How did you know ? The speedo only goes up to 70 !
Royston
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393.17 | Ahhh but... | 44648::MCKAYRE | | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:40 | 13 |
| Mine was quite are rare model with square headlights and a different
dash, if I can remember correctly the speado went up to 80mph.
Ofcourse the next question is why did it go up to 80mph, incase of the
odd v. steep hill.
The manufacturers figure say that 71mph is the tops.
Rory...
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393.18 | | WOTVAX::STONEG | Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland.... | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:55 | 9 |
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>> >I even had over 75mph out of it once or twice.
>> How did you know ? The speedo only goes up to 70 !
...perhaps he was following a juggernaut with 'restricted to 55mph'
written on the back %^)
Graham
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393.19 | cliff face ??? | WOTVAX::HATTONM | Waiting for JS to offer me a drive... | Wed Jan 31 1996 09:51 | 4 |
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perhaps it was a cliff.... %*)
- MARK -
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393.20 | Other drivers hate 2CVs. | CHEFS::POWELLM | The x3030 contractor. | Wed Jan 31 1996 11:55 | 6 |
| Sheila tells me that it is amazing how many people get upset when:
a. overtaken by a 2CV; or b. being beaten off the lights by a 2CV when
they thought that they wouldn't have to try. They especially don't
like it if the 2CV is driven by a woman!
Malcolm.
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393.21 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Thats all I have to say about that | Wed Jan 31 1996 12:28 | 9 |
| >being beaten off the lights by a 2CV
You're winding us up Malcolm. My 2CV couldn't burn off a milk float
at the lights let alone anything else.
It is a red rag to a bull as people just have to over take it even if I'm
up to a reasonable speed.
Royston
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393.22 | | CBHVAX::CBH | Lager Lout | Wed Jan 31 1996 12:32 | 8 |
| > It is a red rag to a bull as people just have to over take it even if I'm
> up to a reasonable speed.
I remember when I was learning to drive, I was doing about 85mph on an A road,
and some guy appeared behind and just *had* to overtake as the car had L
plates on it.
Chris.
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393.23 | Gordon Bennett!!!!!!!!! ;-) | CHEFS::POWELLM | The x3030 contractor. | Wed Jan 31 1996 15:11 | 3 |
| >>>I remember when I was learning to drive, I was doing about 85mph
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
Malcolm.
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393.24 | | RIOT01::SUMMERFIELD | Caught in the motherlode | Wed Jan 31 1996 15:46 | 3 |
| That's Chris Hedley for you.
Clive
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393.25 | | WOTVAX::CARTER_A | Redo from start ++++ | Wed Jan 31 1996 16:58 | 15 |
| Our 2CV will maintain 75 heading up the A1 to Durham, the only problem
is that after about half an hour 'things' start to melt under the
bonnet (I never quite found out what, but I could smell it).
I agree with the low 30's consumption, the 2 cyl. engine isn't very
efficient around town and is either one of the dirtiest on the road
(measured by % nasties of total output) or one of the cleanest
(measured by actual amount of nasties output).
Its also one of the few cars which can have its gear box internals
re-arranged without taking either engine or gearbox out of car! (60
pounds inc. VAT, after it managed to get into two gears at once last
week).
Andy
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393.26 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Thats all I have to say about that | Wed Jan 31 1996 17:12 | 7 |
| >'things' start to melt under the bonnet
The main worry esp. in the summer, and I swear I'm not making this up,
is the cardboard ventilation tubes which perish over time and can catch
fire when the engine gets very hot on a long journey.
Royston
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393.27 | getting hot | AIMTEC::STDBKR::Burden_d | Keep Cool with Coolidge | Wed Jan 31 1996 21:34 | 4 |
| And then I'd presume, with everything nice and hot under the bonnet, the
inboard drum brakes would work very well....:-)
Dave
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393.28 | Yes, 2CVs do catch fire for one reason only. | CHEFS::POWELLM | The x3030 contractor. | Thu Feb 01 1996 08:04 | 19 |
| <<< Note 393.27 by AIMTEC::STDBKR::Burden_d "Keep Cool with Coolidge"
>>>
-< getting hot >-
And then I'd presume, with everything nice and hot under the bonnet, the
inboard drum brakes would work very well....:-)
^^^^
They are (inboard) Disk brakes on later models. I'm told ours are
('88).
Yes I can confirm that the "Cardboard" tubes for the car
ventilation do sag with time and finish up after some (years) resting
on the exhaust pipes - catching fire!
Did anyone see that programme on TV a year or three ago about the
design and development of the 2CV before and during the war? It was
very interesting.
Malcolm
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393.29 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Thats all I have to say about that | Thu Feb 01 1996 09:05 | 11 |
| >drum brakes
The inboard brakes (certainly on later models like Malcolm's and mine)
are disc brakes. Its very easy to keep a check on wear. The rear brakes
are drums which hardly wear at all due to the lightness of the car.
I would have loved to have seen the programme about the design of the
2CV which was originally done in 1939 and is still fundamentally the
same.
Royston
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393.30 | Great wee motors! | WOTVAX::BURNETTD | I have a cunning plan! | Thu Feb 01 1996 13:36 | 15 |
| My wife used to have an X reg 2CV and one of its favourite tricks was
to stall at traffic lights on hot days.... the fuel would evaporate
before it got to the engine! It would then take AGES to restart,
especially if you were at the front of the queue!!
It also hated starting on damp mornings, we went through WD40 like it
was going out of fashion!
It was good in the snow though... with 125x15 wheels it would get
through quite horrible stuff.
The driver gets bruised right elbows a lot ......
Dave
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393.31 | | WOTVAX::CARTER_A | Redo from start ++++ | Thu Feb 01 1996 17:19 | 8 |
| Cardboard tubes - of course. At the end of the journey in question, one
of these had disappeared, and the others looked a bit manky. The one
that had gone was one of the ones to take hot air to the wheelarch,
when it wasn't required to heat the passengers, so I suppose all that
hot air was sitting around under the bonnet (not such a good idea in an
air-cooled car :-)
Andy
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393.32 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Thu Feb 01 1996 17:26 | 6 |
| Starting on damp mornings was THE big problem in the days of the 6V
battery. Things greatly improved with the move to 12V.
Front Drum brakes: most expensive & cumbersome operation I've had to do
in my whole career was to get new brakes. You don't want to know what I
think of Citroen engineers ... No wonder why people switched to Renault4
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