TOPIC | 494.0 | license check in shareable image by LIB$INITIALIZE |
| 494.3 | Wed Apr 20 1988 17:21 | Hello? Can you provide more information? | 63 lines |
TOPIC | 504.0 | VMS Licensing documentation? |
| 504.1 | Fri Apr 22 1988 11:33 | try SPAR::DOCD$:[50REVIEW] | 41 lines |
| 504.7 | Sun Apr 24 1988 13:32 | Logical re-direction | 16 lines |
TOPIC | 636.0 | Downgrading from V5.0 to V 4.7 |
| 636.1 | Mon Jun 06 1988 13:51 | | 14 lines |
TOPIC | 639.0 | Privileged Shareable Images? |
| 639.4 | Tue Jun 07 1988 11:34 | Sys$Examples Provides an example | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 661.0 | "Network Protocol Error" while accessing PC380 on LAN |
| 661.1 | Mon Jun 13 1988 10:01 | Known, at least by me and others... ;^) | 10 lines |
| 661.2 | Mon Jun 13 1988 10:30 | Additional information... | 78 lines |
| 661.7 | Mon Jun 27 1988 08:31 | DECnet? | 3 lines |
TOPIC | 683.0 | Problems with PAKs in clusters??? |
| 683.2 | Fri Jun 17 1988 10:30 | Temporary work-around | 30 lines |
| 683.5 | Mon Jun 20 1988 14:25 | | 6 lines |
TOPIC | 686.0 | No translation for logical SYS$NODE |
| 686.3 | Mon Jun 20 1988 14:22 | | 13 lines |
TOPIC | 723.0 | SMIserver not started as documented. |
| 723.2 | Mon Jun 27 1988 12:35 | | 10 lines |
| 723.6 | Wed Jun 29 1988 15:18 | Yes, but is it mounted? | 9 lines |
TOPIC | 729.0 | VMSINSTAL problems with doubly entered SYSHLP.DIR |
| 729.1 | Tue Jun 28 1988 20:41 | More info? | 9 lines |
TOPIC | 833.0 | Upgrading from 4.2 to 4.7 |
| 833.2 | Fri Jul 15 1988 08:57 | Leap frogging releases | 7 lines |
TOPIC | 17.0 | Deleting a PAK |
| 17.1 | Wed Jan 04 1989 08:39 | | 17 lines |
| 17.4 | Mon Jan 09 1989 08:01 | Disabling the PAK... | 7 lines |
TOPIC | 20.0 | VMS V5 Microfiche? |
| 20.7 | Thu Jan 05 1989 09:05 | | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 25.0 | SYSMAN Questions |
| 25.4 | Mon Jan 09 1989 07:48 | | 26 lines |
TOPIC | 99.0 | VAXstation 3100 Questions |
| 99.1 | Wed Jan 11 1989 08:23 | SID, XSID, and HW_Model | 3 lines |
| 99.6 | Fri Jan 13 1989 22:35 | FT3 | 8 lines |
| 99.8 | Mon Jan 09 1989 18:04 | SOme answers, I'll check on the remainder | 21 lines |
| 99.9 | Wed Jan 11 1989 08:05 | V5.1-B will definatelly be a remastered kit | 0 lines |
| 99.20 | Fri Jan 27 1989 11:04 | | 12 lines |
| 99.21 | Fri Jan 27 1989 11:17 | I guess these systems are shipping, eh??? | 44 lines |
| 99.24 | Fri Feb 03 1989 07:31 | RX23 not supported as Boot device | 15 lines |
TOPIC | 110.0 | Desktop VMS available? |
| 110.1 | Fri Jan 13 1989 22:38 | BULOVA::DECWINDOWS | 1 lines |
| 110.6 | Thu Jan 19 1989 20:09 | Try 1692.*, BULOVA::DECWINDOWS Notes conference | 1 lines |
TOPIC | 207.0 | RX23 floppy question |
| 207.1 | Thu Jan 19 1989 20:34 | TEST 70??? | 9 lines |
| 207.2 | Fri Jan 20 1989 08:03 | It definatelly is TEST 70 for formatting RX23's on VS3100s | 0 lines |
TOPIC | 210.0 | SHOW INTRUSION exits DCL procedure |
| 210.1 | Thu Jan 19 1989 20:38 | Unable to get a failure | 4 lines |
TOPIC | 219.0 | Getting Internal PAKs for GIA/EUROPE discussion |
| 219.11 | Wed Feb 01 1989 08:09 | AH Yup! | 13 lines |
TOPIC | 233.0 | SET HOST / DTE Questions |
| 233.2 | Mon Jan 23 1989 08:08 | Additional Linker options? | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 241.0 | ANALYZE/IMAGE gives "ISD extends beyond format for global section" |
| 241.1 | Mon Jan 23 1989 20:19 | Version of VMS? | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 244.0 | LINK-E-INSVIRMEM |
| 244.3 | Mon Jan 23 1989 20:25 | Based shareable images, Why does anyone do this? | 13 lines |
TOPIC | 292.0 | Pending global section ? |
| 292.2 | Fri Jan 27 1989 11:32 | Delete pending CAN NOT exist across reboots... | 12 lines |
TOPIC | 314.0 | VAXstation 3100 vs. MV2000 questions |
| 314.2 | Fri Jan 27 1989 13:47 | The VS in VS3100 is there for a reason. Workstations are single user systems... | 9 lines |
TOPIC | 333.0 | Sat Jan 28 1989 14:00 | Desktop-VMS(tm) Software Conference on ELKTRA:: | 24 lines |
TOPIC | 336.0 | LICENSE AMEND problem |
| 336.5 | Mon Jan 30 1989 08:25 | | 22 lines |
TOPIC | 345.0 | Unable to take System Dump |
| 345.2 | Wed Feb 01 1989 13:57 | | 4 lines |
TOPIC | 379.0 | authorize- display owner > 20 characters?? |
| 379.3 | Fri Feb 03 1989 07:40 | System Service? Try $GETUAI | 0 lines |
TOPIC | 381.0 | ident mismatch with shareable image |
| 381.1 | Thu Feb 02 1989 15:21 | | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 387.0 | SYS$ERROR Logical Name Question |
| 387.2 | Fri Feb 03 1989 07:18 | | 7 lines |
TOPIC | 391.0 | Problem starting SMISERVER on V5.1 |
| 391.1 | Fri Feb 03 1989 07:38 | Logs & Process Dumps? | 7 lines |
| 391.5 | Sun Feb 05 1989 06:14 | | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 394.0 | What makes up an Executable Image |
| 394.1 | Fri Feb 03 1989 07:44 | | 6 lines |
TOPIC | 397.0 | Sub-Processes and Quotas |
| 397.2 | Sun Feb 05 1989 06:17 | Guide to System Services | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 585.0 | Tue Feb 21 1989 17:44 | VS3100 (Pvax) SDC Kit (VMS V5.1-B) | 66 lines |
TOPIC | 626.0 | OPCOM Process |
| 626.14 | Fri Jun 09 1989 22:41 | | 16 lines |
TOPIC | 1594.0 | DZERO COMPRESSION ON SHAREABLE IMAGES ? |
| 1594.3 | Tue Jun 06 1989 11:28 | Hmm, was this it? (V4.0, that WAS a long time ago, wasn't it?)
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TOPIC | 1603.0 | LMF Questions |
| 1603.1 | Tue Jun 06 1989 12:16 | | 60 lines |
TOPIC | 1605.0 | Unsupported hardware on V5 |
| 1605.1 | Tue Jun 06 1989 12:19 | V5.0 Software Product Description (SPD)? | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 1635.0 | STABACKIT on RX23? |
| 1635.8 | Wed Jun 21 1989 22:45 | | 14 lines |
TOPIC | 1765.0 | Backup/record again and mysterious |
| 1765.1 | Thu Jun 22 1989 09:04 | | 16 lines |
TOPIC | 1811.0 | linker error when try to increase array size |
| 1811.1 | Thu Jun 29 1989 08:44 | | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 1860.0 | Temp MBX name in process table - avail to subproc ? |
| 1860.1 | Wed Jul 05 1989 15:54 | FLAGS & LIB$SPAWN | 8 lines |
TOPIC | 1863.0 | Contiguous Blocks on A System Disk |
| 1863.3 | Thu Jul 06 1989 13:20 | | 11 lines |
TOPIC | 1967.0 | Different Twist on VS3100/TK50? |
| 1967.1 | Mon Jul 17 1989 20:35 | TK50Z ROM upgraded included in VS3100 Seed upgrade | 4 lines |
TOPIC | 1977.0 | NOTSET message |
| 1977.1 | Tue Jul 18 1989 11:10 | | 8 lines |
TOPIC | 1982.0 | Copying multivolume backup save sets |
| 1982.2 | Wed Jul 19 1989 13:52 | | 6 lines |
TOPIC | 2026.0 | Installing Multiple PAK for a product |
| 2026.1 | Sun Jul 23 1989 05:23 | | 15 lines |
TOPIC | 2035.0 | BACKUP messages? |
| 2035.1 | Mon Jul 24 1989 09:50 | | 9 lines |
TOPIC | 2040.0 | S/A Backup on VS3100 RX23 flop ? |
| 2040.1 | Mon Jul 24 1989 16:18 | In a word, NO | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 2043.0 | show device/file doesn't show open files |
| 2043.2 | Tue Jul 25 1989 08:21 | Spooled devices? | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 2061.0 | PVAX, cluster, clusconf-e errors. How to fix. |
| 2061.1 | Tue Jul 25 1989 23:09 | | 8 lines |
TOPIC | 2086.0 | Network problems due to missing PAK on V5.2? |
| 2086.7 | Tue Aug 01 1989 12:01 | | 29 lines |
TOPIC | 2100.0 | v5.2 license problem |
| 2100.4 | Fri Jul 28 1989 10:48 | | 20 lines |
TOPIC | 2101.0 | crash - signal & mechanism array locations |
| 2101.1 | Fri Jul 28 1989 10:52 | BUGCHECK.MEM | 4 lines |
TOPIC | 2103.0 | vms shareable image limit |
| 2103.1 | Fri Jul 28 1989 10:57 | Additional information required. | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 1.0 | Fri Jan 27 1989 14:25 | Welcome | 18 lines |
TOPIC | 2.0 | Fri Jan 27 1989 14:38 | Desktop-VMS "Marketing" brochure... | 254 lines |
| 2.3 | Fri Feb 10 1989 18:57 | Well... | 96 lines |
TOPIC | 3.0 | Portions of System Kept on CD? |
| 3.1 | Sun Jan 29 1989 08:11 | Movement of files, and CDrom contents | 33 lines |
| 3.2 | Sun Jan 29 1989 08:24 | List of files remaining on CDrom Disc, Valid for Ft1 ONLY! | 609 lines |
| 3.6 | Wed Feb 01 1989 23:27 | | 11 lines |
| 3.8 | Mon Mar 13 1989 19:58 | Gee, we should go on Ripley's... | 18 lines |
TOPIC | 4.0 | New security features |
| 4.2 | Mon Jan 30 1989 08:41 | T-VMS, aka Traditional VMS | 0 lines |
TOPIC | 5.0 | Why Desktop-VMS "can't" join traditional VAXclusters |
| 5.1 | Sun Jan 29 1989 12:07 | A matter of terminology... | 18 lines |
| 5.4 | Sat Aug 19 1989 20:53 | | 31 lines |
TOPIC | 9.0 | Nits, annoyances, and other important trivia |
| 9.6 | Thu Feb 02 1989 17:09 | Good point! | 8 lines |
| 9.8 | Thu Feb 02 1989 19:24 | Argh! Hoisted by my own petard (sp?) :-) :-) | 1 lines |
| 9.19 | Wed Jul 05 1989 12:56 | Not intended by design... | 13 lines |
TOPIC | 11.0 | Order numbers? |
| 11.2 | Sun Jan 29 1989 13:43 | See end of 2.0 for ordering information | 15 lines |
| 11.4 | Tue Jan 31 1989 18:08 | Condist == Consolidated Distribution | 10 lines |
TOPIC | 13.0 | ConDist --- Digital has it Now! |
| 13.7 | Fri Feb 10 1989 09:12 | Desktop-VMS CDrom disc w/o online DOC is ~98MB | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 16.0 | Documentation on Network? |
| 16.1 | Sun Jan 29 1989 13:47 | VMSKIT""::PVAX$PUBLIC:[FT1.DOCUMENTATION] | 9 lines |
| 16.5 | Mon Feb 27 1989 12:38 | Desktop-VMS Documentation... | 100 lines |
TOPIC | 20.0 | What should we publish on CD? |
| 20.5 | Tue Jan 31 1989 12:30 | ISO? | 8 lines |
| 20.17 | Thu Feb 02 1989 11:27 | OLD with platforms. | 10 lines |
| 20.19 | Thu Feb 02 1989 17:07 | | 7 lines |
| 20.21 | Thu Feb 02 1989 23:06 | | 7 lines |
| 20.65 | Wed Jun 07 1989 12:36 | Desktop-VMS has it first... | 7 lines |
TOPIC | 22.0 | Is system manager interface available? |
| 22.1 | Tue Jan 31 1989 17:39 | | 41 lines |
| 22.2 | Tue Jan 31 1989 18:09 | Expansion on .-1 | 48 lines |
| 22.6 | Wed Feb 01 1989 23:25 | | 15 lines |
TOPIC | 27.0 | Is "Desk-top VMS" VMS? |
| 27.1 | Sun Feb 05 1989 06:01 | | 59 lines |
| 27.7 | Mon Apr 03 1989 19:59 | Not to worry... | 6 lines |
TOPIC | 38.0 | VMS Online Doc. Library CDROM !!! |
| 38.1 | Fri Mar 10 1989 07:11 | Online Documentation ADS information (Source: VTX ADS database) | 24 lines |
TOPIC | 39.0 | Stand-Alone Backup from CDROM? |
| 39.2 | Sat Mar 11 1989 15:29 | Yes if you use CONDIST | 15 lines |
TOPIC | 41.0 | Fri Mar 24 1989 08:06 | Desktop-VMS(tm) Software Installation Registration | 13 lines |
| 41.1 | Fri Mar 24 1989 08:08 | Let me start it off... | 11 lines |
TOPIC | 42.0 | 150 Day Ship Time ?!!!? |
| 42.2 | Sat Mar 25 1989 22:25 | 150 days from what, the January announcement? | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 43.0 | DECwindows-based system management tools |
| 43.2 | Fri Mar 31 1989 13:18 | In addition. | 12 lines |
| 43.8 | Mon Apr 03 1989 08:44 | | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 45.0 | Unlimited PAK for internal use? |
| 45.1 | Mon Apr 03 1989 08:50 | | 6 lines |
| 45.3 | Mon Apr 03 1989 20:05 | | 18 lines |
| 45.5 | Thu Jul 06 1989 15:52 | | 7 lines |
| 45.7 | Thu Jul 06 1989 16:50 | I'm lost... | 8 lines |
| 45.9 | Thu Jul 06 1989 20:23 | | 23 lines |
| 45.11 | Thu Jul 06 1989 23:16 | | 11 lines |
TOPIC | 50.0 | Thu May 25 1989 10:05 | Desktop-VMS Version 1.0 Software Availability | 134 lines |
| 50.1 | Thu May 25 1989 10:09 | Important CAVEATS to the Desktop-VMS Announcement memo | 26 lines |
| 50.5 | Fri Jun 16 1989 08:59 | | 18 lines |
TOPIC | 52.0 | Desktop-VMS in other languages? |
| 52.6 | Tue Jun 06 1989 23:19 | Another opinion | 58 lines |
TOPIC | 53.0 | Install problems with Desktop-VMS (tm) |
| 53.2 | Fri Jun 09 1989 22:33 | Doctor, Doctor, it hurts when I do this... | 27 lines |
| 53.5 | Sun Jun 11 1989 19:20 | | 31 lines |
TOPIC | 54.0 | Changing GBL pages and sections? |
| 54.1 | Mon Jun 12 1989 12:13 | Shouldn't be a problem at all.. | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 56.0 | backup question |
| 56.1 | Wed Jun 14 1989 09:55 | | 18 lines |
TOPIC | 57.0 | DECwindowsft3 install errors |
| 57.1 | Wed Jun 14 1989 09:43 | Yes, this is "expected" behaviour | 16 lines |
TOPIC | 58.0 | CD reader uses tons of disk space for Cache?? |
| 58.2 | Thu Jun 15 1989 13:59 | Additional information.? | 9 lines |
TOPIC | 59.0 | what do you think? |
| 59.1 | Fri Jun 16 1989 07:44 | | 13 lines |
| 59.5 | Fri Jun 16 1989 12:01 | | 27 lines |
TOPIC | 61.0 | PAK and desktop-vms softw. |
| 61.1 | Thu Jun 22 1989 08:55 | Desktop-VMS PAK/TSP... | 81 lines |
TOPIC | 63.0 | Dt-VMS & VWS |
| 63.1 | Tue Jul 04 1989 08:46 | In a word, No... | 8 lines |
| 63.4 | Fri Aug 11 1989 08:22 | | 15 lines |
TOPIC | 64.0 | Decwindows Notesfile? |
| 64.1 | Wed Jul 05 1989 12:07 | Check Bulova::DECwindows as a starting point | 0 lines |
TOPIC | 65.0 | Satelliteconfig is queer in DESKTOP-VMS LAVC |
| 65.4 | Sun Jul 09 1989 23:29 | Additional information requested | 19 lines |
| 65.6 | Mon Jul 10 1989 22:00 | | 4 lines |
| 65.8 | Tue Jul 11 1989 08:29 | | 26 lines |
| 65.11 | Tue Jul 18 1989 07:27 | | 22 lines |
| 65.13 | Tue Jul 18 1989 11:02 | Thanks... | 26 lines |
TOPIC | 66.0 | Cluster_config >< SatelliteConfig |
| 66.1 | Fri Jul 07 1989 14:16 | Only Use SatelliteConfig | 22 lines |
TOPIC | 67.0 | OPCOM on VAX 3100 Model 40 |
| 67.1 | Fri Jul 07 1989 14:25 | Its Disabled... | 23 lines |
TOPIC | 68.0 | Re-install message is confusing |
| 68.3 | Sun Jul 16 1989 21:30 | | 20 lines |
TOPIC | 69.0 | Desktop Shutdown Problems |
| 69.4 | Tue Jul 18 1989 07:57 | Additional information needed | 12 lines |
TOPIC | 71.0 | layered products & SYS$COMMON: searchlist problem |
| 71.1 | Thu Jul 13 1989 08:23 | Known, and Documented in the release Notes | 38 lines |
TOPIC | 74.0 | Multiple boot servers? |
| 74.1 | Mon Jul 17 1989 19:46 | Only one boot server allowed per Desktop-VMS VAXcluster | 14 lines |
| 74.3 | Mon Jul 31 1989 07:08 | | 8 lines |
TOPIC | 75.0 | DFS & Default Login Device |
| 75.2 | Tue Jul 18 1989 07:20 | | 11 lines |
TOPIC | 76.0 | Shutdown crashes, SSRVEXCEPT Bugcheck |
| 76.1 | Tue Jul 18 1989 07:36 | If Big hammer theory <> Big Bang Theory | 27 lines |
| 76.3 | Tue Jul 18 1989 12:32 | Time for shutdown to complete = 1:50 before System Forceably removed. | 13 lines |
| 76.4 | Tue Aug 15 1989 17:51 | CNXMGRERR, Error detected by VAXcluster Connection Manager | 11 lines |
TOPIC | 77.0 | Page file gets used up |
| 77.1 | Tue Jul 18 1989 14:15 | Trouble shooting tips. | 25 lines |
TOPIC | 78.0 | Desktop-VMS to VMS v5.1-1 ? |
| 78.1 | Wed Jul 19 1989 11:31 | Why V5.1-1? | 10 lines |
| 78.4 | Wed Jul 19 1989 17:19 | | 10 lines |
TOPIC | 80.0 | Install leaves no free space RZ23 |
| 80.1 | Sat Jul 22 1989 01:24 | | 15 lines |
TOPIC | 81.0 | How to split a volume set of 2 RZ23 |
| 81.1 | Wed Jul 26 1989 11:33 | A rather advanced operation, if you ask me... | 105 lines |
TOPIC | 82.0 | Documentation on NET - help |
| 82.1 | Mon Jul 31 1989 07:11 | | 4 lines |
TOPIC | 83.0 | Dissapearing Session Manager |
| 83.1 | Thu Aug 03 1989 12:13 | VS2000's not supported by Desktop-VMS V1.0 | 8 lines |
TOPIC | 84.0 | Disk Space, moving page and swapfiles ? |
| 84.1 | Wed Aug 09 1989 17:21 | | 16 lines |
TOPIC | 85.0 | Adding Printer on Desktop |
| 85.1 | Fri Aug 18 1989 23:32 | | 32 lines |
TOPIC | 86.0 | Desktop-VMS and the CD Drive |
| 86.2 | Fri Aug 18 1989 23:36 | | 12 lines |
TOPIC | 90.0 | temporarily mount another cd? |
| 90.1 | Wed Aug 30 1989 12:46 | Standard VMS troubleshooting... | 3 lines |
| 90.3 | Wed Aug 30 1989 14:34 | Additional questions | 12 lines |
TOPIC | 491.0 | will DECwindows BL8 run on VMS V5.0 (SDC)? |
| 491.14 | Fri Jun 10 1988 16:08 | Another ZKO Re-Distribution point | 5 lines |
TOPIC | 590.0 | Mon Jun 20 1988 15:11 | Looping server startup | 36 lines |
| 590.1 | Tue Jun 21 1988 10:35 | | 3 lines |
TOPIC | 625.0 | Wed Jun 29 1988 23:43 | IOs increase when no activity... | 7 lines |
| 625.1 | Wed Jun 29 1988 23:48 | Buffer, not direct IOs | 2 lines |
TOPIC | 647.0 | Noecho for password input |
| 647.1 | Sun Jul 10 1988 21:23 | IO Users Guide | 8 lines |
| 647.3 | Mon Jul 11 1988 09:22 | Whoops, wrong conference | 4 lines |
TOPIC | 816.0 | Tue Aug 09 1988 10:00 | Unable to Save Mouse acceleration | 15 lines |
| 816.3 | Wed Aug 17 1988 12:18 | Seems to be working now. | 10 lines |
TOPIC | 902.0 | user interface type?? |
| 902.2 | Wed Aug 24 1988 08:24 | | 13 lines |
TOPIC | 911.0 | Wed Aug 24 1988 15:42 | Intrinsics Documentation? | 7 lines |
TOPIC | 926.0 | Looking for BOOKREADER books... |
| 926.1 | Fri Aug 26 1988 14:15 | Try BULOVA""::DECW$PUBLIC:[DOCUMENTATION.ONLINE] | 1 lines |
TOPIC | 946.0 | Cant restart DEcwindows after hang up. |
| 946.3 | Tue Aug 30 1988 21:23 | Oops | 10 lines |
TOPIC | 977.0 | Application pending?? |
| 977.1 | Mon Sep 05 1988 16:47 | PRCLM? | 11 lines |
TOPIC | 1116.0 | FT2 versions of xsetroot and bitmap editor |
| 1116.2 | Wed Oct 05 1988 08:15 | CLT:: | 2 lines |
TOPIC | 1120.0 | Wed Oct 05 1988 08:44 | Missing documentation for VMS_SET_ARG | 10 lines |
| 1120.2 | Wed Oct 05 1988 12:27 | Qar 1687, Thanks... | 1 lines |
TOPIC | 1146.0 | VMS BL11 now available |
| 1146.10 | Tue Oct 11 1988 09:05 | THEBES"":: | 7 lines |
TOPIC | 1423.0 | VMS v5.0-2 install failed |
| 1423.4 | Mon Nov 21 1988 08:45 | We also ran into it... | 13 lines |
TOPIC | 1448.0 | Mon Nov 21 1988 16:07 | X$RM_Get_Resource | 12 lines |
| 1448.2 | Tue Nov 22 1988 08:44 | Qar 2072 | 57 lines |
TOPIC | 1472.0 | Fri Nov 25 1988 13:49 | Concerned over documentation | 15 lines |
TOPIC | 1494.0 | Recurring Machine Check while in Kernel Mode Crash. |
| 1494.1 | Wed Nov 30 1988 12:33 | Memory Errors?, check the error log as well! | 4 lines |
TOPIC | 1688.0 | Desktop VMS available? |
| 1688.6 | Fri Jan 13 1989 13:17 | | 21 lines |