Conference rdvax::grateful

    release date?
    
    /b

been there...  done that...

and it was a GRATE show.....  :^)  :^)  :^)

				da ve

>    release date?

  I didn't catch a release date.
  
  According to the (speculative) every-3-mos. release pattern I noted for
  Dick's Picks, either a Dick's Pick or Vault should be materializing any
  day now...
  
  (Btw, I'm going to keep mentioning the idea of a Dick's Picks subscription
  series to GDM each time I call...)   - JayC.

    This is great news, 3-24-90 was one of the top three shows I saw in
    person.  Floor seats smack in the tapers section and having Owsley try
    to peddle a belt buckle to me during the break enhanced the experience,
    but the band was on that night.  I remember looking around at the
    crowd, then having my head snapped around and the hairs on the back of
    my neck stand up when I heard them nail the opening of "Loser."
    
    Jamie

    I heard some of this on a David Gans show, good stuff..

Wonder what the 'mystery filler' will be?  

Maybe that missing scarlet>fire...??  missing from any vault/dp release
that is....

Checking the set lists there was one from the cap center on 3-21-90.

Curios about that and also curious about the selection of this show.
I guess I view this as an attempt to "satisfy" the masses and get one
out from each "era".   I was at the show but would rather see something
else released.  :)   Opening with ole' Brent at his misogynous best
seems a curious pick for Dick. 

bob

    
    Yeah.  It was a good show, but I certainly didn't think it was smokin
    rippin hot.  
    
    The Hartford stealth show would have been a more appropriate release.
    
    Even Foxboro 90 which  went in record books with the crank out double 
    encore.  It also had the I Will Take You Home if thats what they were
    looking for.   I also remember a flawless Buffulo 1990 show with a
    Sugar Mag->Scarlet opener....f'in roasting, piping, smoking, raging 
    hot!

if yer lookin for Scarlet>Fire, hmm, I think I recall the my Springfield, MA
5/11/78 tape has a Scarlet>Fire>Scarlet....forget, I'm without Deadbase, and
it's been awhile since I listened to the tape...I'll check it out...

Wes_founder_President_and_chief_mischief_maker_of_WOKO_Records

    re .6, .0
    
    The opener was rilly "Let the Good Times Roll."
    
    The '88 Hampton shows had a great Scarlet>Fire, with Jerry belting out
    some "woah"s and "ooh"s.  A combination of those two shows would work
    well.  "Stir It Up" wouldn't make the cut, though.
    
    Jamie

> Opening with ole' Brent at his misogynous best
> seems a curious pick for Dick. 

  Technically, Dick does only the 2-tracks, for mail-order release only...
  While Lesh & Cutler take charge of the multitracks, for regular commercial
  release.  Right?  (Just checking that I understand Dick's charter here...)

  There's an interesting account of 3/24/90 in Deadbase IX I believe.  - JayC.

> While Lesh & Cutler take charge of the multitracks, for regular commercial
> release.  Right?

Which releases does this include?  The Vault series?  Without a Net?
Any others?

Dan

	there's also some great accounts written by DECheads in
	GRATEFUL_OLD (note 893) - and it seems the consensus then
	was that this one was one HOT HOT show and the top choice of
	spring tour for those that did tour...

	seems they couldn't decide the name of that 1st song either ;-)

	Debess

> > While Lesh & Cutler take charge of the multitracks, for regular commercial
> > release.  Right?
> 
> Which releases does this include?  The Vault series?  Without a Net?
> Any others?

  Well, if I'm correct about Dick's charter...
  
  Lesh & Cutler are into just about everything else stamped "Dead", I believe.
  This includes the Vault series (1ftV > 2ftV > Hundred Year Hall > ...).
  And other supposedly forthcoming compilations of live stuff.

  The Vault & Dick series(es) postdate Without a Net -- but Lesh & Cutler
  worked on that too.    (Corrections welcomed.)  - JayC.

Who is Bob Bralove?  He's listed as producer of Infrared Roses...

Dan

	he's the MIDI expert - helped Vince and did some of the
	stuff behind the scenes during drumz

    Bob's also playing keyboards in Second Sight with Vince,
    Henry Kaiser, and a few other bay area musicians. I heard
    them out in SF last January at the Great American Music
    Hall and they sounded excellent. They're supposed to have
    a CD out but it hasn't surfaced yet.
    
    

    
    I thought this show blew the doors off the Albany one in the selection
    and in some areas performance...
    
    Hartford Civic Center Hartford CT (3/19/90)
    
    Hell in a Bucket
    Bertha
    We Can Run But We Can't Hide
    Jack-a-Roe
    Picasso Moon
    Brown Eyed Women
    It's All Over Now
    Deal
    
    Box of Rain
    Foolish Heart
    Playin' in the Band
    jam                             
    Eyes of the World
    drums
    China Doll
    Gimme Some Lovin'
    Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad
    Around and Around
    
    Brokedown Palace
    
    
    
    Not to mention this smoker in Canada a couple days before (I didn't
    catch this one)
    
    Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario (3/22/90)
    
    Feel Like a Stranger
    West L.A. Fadeaway
    Easy to Love You
    Beat it on Down the Line
    It Must Have Been the Roses
    This Could Be the Last Time
    Picasso Moon
    Don't Ease Me In
    
    Scarlet Begonias
    Fire on the Mountain
    Samson and Delilah
    Believe it or Not
    Truckin'
    drums
    The Other One
    Hey Jude Reprise
    Dear Mr. Fantasy
    Hey Jude Reprise
    Sugar Magnolia
    
    Baby Blue
    
    

    That 3/22/90 from Hamilton RIPS!!!
    
    I also dig that Albany 3/24 tho. Tough choice there for me.

    
    Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario (3/22/90)
    
    Scarlet Begonias
    Fire on the Mountain
    Samson and Delilah
    Believe it or Not
    Truckin'
    drums
    The Other One
    Hey Jude Reprise
    Dear Mr. Fantasy
    Hey Jude Reprise
    Sugar Magnolia
    
    Baby Blue
    
    


This last set from Copp's is like alllllll Brent.  Very good toooo.....

    I agree Hartford and Hamilton were great...
    had floors for 3/22/90 ...
    As far as the filler,  the scarlet->fire from steeltow (hamilton)
     gets my cdn vote.... Ross
    
    
    
    
                                                           

    whoops, sorry hamilton (steeltown not steeltow)..Ross

      <<< Note 542.9 by ASDG::IDE "My mind's lost in a household fog." >>>
    
>    The opener was rilly "Let the Good Times Roll."

ahh!!  confused now....
It said in an earlier note - "Good Time Blues" which I thought was Brent's
"Don't need Love"??????????????????  Which, when I think about it, probably
never opened a show....

thx
bob

                       <<< Note 542.10 by HELIX::CLARK >>>

>  Technically, Dick does only the 2-tracks, for mail-order release only...
>  While Lesh & Cutler take charge of the multitracks, for regular commercial
>  release.  Right?  (Just checking that I understand Dick's charter here...)

you are kerrrect!  I was thinking this was a Dick Pick ...  
Anyhow his "charter" is 2 track digitally remastered as it was played
with no tweeking the mix or overdubs and you can buy em in stores too.

thanks!
bob

    re .22
    
    You are confused.  :-)
    
    "Don't Need Love" -- "I don't need love/And I sure as hell don't need
    you."
    
    "Good Time Blues" aka "Never Trust A Woman" -- "Never trust a woman/Who
    wears her dress too tight."  No misogyny there, just good practical
    advice.  :-)
    
    "Let The Good Times Roll" aka LTGTR -- "Get in the groove and let the
    good times roll." was the opener, I listened to a tape last night.
    
    
    The Hartford show was good and long, but very laid back.  I especially
    liked the drumming on Eyes.  3-24-90 was much higher energy and had a
    standout "Loser" with Jerry extending his solo and the crowd going
    nuts.  This show was taped for "Without A Net" and "One More Saturday
    Night" made it onto that CD.  I expect the release will sound similar.
    
    I'll listen to my copy of the Copps show again, but I remember it being
    mediocre to lousy.  The attempt at "Hey Jude" was especially awful.
    
    Jamie

      <<< Note 542.9 by ASDG::IDE "My mind's lost in a household fog." >>>
       
>    The opener was rilly "Let the Good Times Roll."

Ok Jamie,  thanks for setting me straight - However one last bit of confusion 
lingers.....

you mentioned that LTGTR was rilly the opener?  What's the deal with 
that?  The set lists I've seen say Good Time Blues - .... 

I need a long weekend...

re:  Brent at Hamilton - 

to each his own.  I like it!  

thanks though,  I had completely forgotten about "never trust a woman"
and did have it confused with "don't need love" .... 

As brent sings:
guess I'm gonna have to ring that bell tonight!!!!!!!!!!
bob

>you mentioned that LTGTR was rilly the opener?  What's the deal with 
>that?  The set lists I've seen say Good Time Blues - .... 
    
    Take yer pick:
    
    The setlists are wrong or Dick (or whomever) has decided to change
    history.  I've seen correct set lists, just not in .0.
    
>re:  Brent at Hamilton - 
>to each his own.  I like it!  
    
    If you like forgotten lyrics, painfully out-of-tune harmonizing, and
    tentative learn-as-you go playing, pony up $34.50 and I'll serenade you
    for a few hours.  :-)
    
    Jamie

      <<< Note 542.26 by ASDG::IDE "My mind's lost in a household fog." >>>

>    Take yer pick:    
>    The setlists are wrong or Dick (or whomever) has decided to change
>    history.  I've seen correct set lists, just not in .0.

My pick goes to LTGTR - an opener.  I doubt they ever opened a show with 
Good Time Blues or really any Brent song...did they?  Gotcha, it's a
plot, everyone is trying to confuse me.  

I did look at Tour by Tour and it listed "good time blues".  I don't
have a deadbase.....
    
>    If you like forgotten lyrics, painfully out-of-tune harmonizing, and
>    tentative learn-as-you go playing, pony up $34.50 and I'll serenade you
>    for a few hours.  :-)

Babysitting included?

:)
thanks
bob

ps.  for a minute there I thought were describing the Complete band :)

    
    
    How many Hartford shows were there that week?  I went to the Hartford
    show earlier in the week, and thought it sucked.  Then I went to
    Albany, and thought it was totally smokin'
    
    But then again, my circumstances at those two shows couldn't have been
    any further apart in difference ;^)
    
    Hogan

	there were 2 (stealth) shows in Hartford.

	that whole stealth scene was soooooo funny.  rumors spread
	like wildfire.  My brother-in-law was living in Hartford at
	the time - and I would hear rumors about tickets going on
	sale at the Civic Center box office on Saturday, so I'd call
	him and ask him to get tickets - and he would go down there
	and wait in line with hundreds (really) of other people that
	heard the rumor.  But the tickets weren't really going on
	sale at all that day.  He said he had a great time waiting in
	line with the Deadheads anyways.

	Then, when they -did- announce the tickets going on sale, they
	announced it with like 2 hours of lead time.  Everyone I could
	think of to call in Hartford couldn't get there, or I couldn't
	get ahold of them.  Fortunately, my brother has a job where he
	drives around the city alot and he heard it on the radio and
	zipped over to the Civic Center and got us tickets.  

	Those shows were real special to me and Guntis.  It was almost
	exactly the anniversary of our 1st date together - in the town
	where we met - doing exactly what we had done on our first date -
	and that year marked our being together with eachother exactly
	half our lives.

	I remember that the 1st show really set the mood for our
	anniversary feelings.  Lots of great slow dances. :-)

	Debess

    Opener at 3/24/90 was definitely Let The Good Times Roll

    all right...all this banter about 2 shows that I don't have...could I
    beg a copy of each from someone that has the time to spin them??
    
    rfb

    
    
    FWIW-  it's "Never trust a woman who wears her *pants* too tight"
           (not dress- that's LeBlanc)
    
    
    :-)  Steve-O

    I wrote pants, then thought it over and changed it.  Either way, only
    trust 'em when they're nekkid and can't hide any weapons.
    
    

very strange release.
there is already a 24 track digi mix down of this show out there.

	Tim

	what does that mean Tim?
	I don't even have an analog tape of this show - and I'll
	be happy to pay GDM for a nice copy of a good show.
	
	Debess

    re .35
    
    I'm not Tim, but I'd like to raid his beer fridge.
    
    The shows were recorded on a 24 track recording machine.  Simply put,
    each recording track is for a single mike on stage, so you'd have one
    for Jerry's vocals, one for his guitar, and so on.  In the studio,
    these are combined and mixed down to two tracks, left and right, for
    your stereo.
    
    The recording part is relatively easy and cheap, but mixing it down to
    a releasable stereo version takes expensive studio and engineering
    time.  Since it was mixed down for "Without A Net," 3-24-90 was already
    in the can and won't take much effort to release.
    
    Some insider dubbed a copy of the final mix of the show and it's in
    circulation among tapers.  I just have an analog audience copy and will
    gladly shell out for a CD.
    
    Jamie

  In a gratuitous attempt to have the last word on this issue...
  
  The set list in .0 came from pmDeadbase, the ASCII file that was
  constructed from Deadbase VII, then tacked onto to bring it up thru '95.
  
  Deadbase IX (in both its set list and its review of the show) gets it
  right.  (Let the Good Times Roll...)   - JayC.

	thanks for the explanation, Jamie

re         <<< Note 542.17 by DELNI::DSMITH "Can you see the real me" >>>
                                -< better days >-

    
>    I thought this show blew the doors off the Albany one in the selection
>    and in some areas performance...
>    
>    Hartford Civic Center Hartford CT (3/19/90)
 

disagree big time.
i was at both shows and by far, 3-24-90 took the cake.
3-24-90 was the best show i ever saw.

then again, it is all what you were on at the time
(i was drinking water, of course)

  A quasi-newbie I'm trading with helped me construct this chart...
  
  Relevant here only because I noticed that 3/24/90 was 3rd among 1990 shows
  (tied with 9/19/90).  Obviously several noters' mileages vary...  - JayC.

CONSENSUS FAVORITE DEAD SHOWS
============================================================================
From Deadbase IX, for which tape collectors each listed up to 20 favorite
tapes.
============================================================================
        Top 11                  Top 21                  Top 30
        ------                  ------                  ------
1969:   3/1/69 Fillmore SF

1970:   2/13/70 Fillmore NY*    2/14/70 Fillmore NY*
        5/2/70 Harpur NY

1971:   4/29/71 Fillmore NY     4/28/71 Fillmore NY     2/18/71 Capitol NY

1972:   8/27/72 Veneta OR

1973:                           2/9/73 Stanford CA      6/10/73 RFK DC
                                2/16/73 Madison WI
                                5/26/73 Kazar SF
                        
1974:                           6/18/74 Louisville KY   6/28/74 BostonG MA
                                                        10/19/74 Winterland SF

1975:                           8/13/75 GAmerican SF*
============================================================================
1977:   5/8/77 Cornell NY                               2/26/77 SBernadino CA
        5/9/77 Buffalo NY

1978:                           7/8/78 Red Rocks CO
                                12/31/78 Winterland SF   
============================================================================
1985:                                                   11/1/85 Richmond VA
============================================================================
1989:   10/9/89 Hampton VA
        10/16/89 Meadowlands NJ

1990:   3/29/90 Nassau NJ                               9/20/90 MadisonSG NY
        
1991:   9/10/91 MadisonSG NY    9/26/91 BostonG MA      10/31/91 Oakland CA
============================================================================
1993:                                                   3/24/93 Chapel Hill NC
============================================================================
* Available in part or whole on a commercial release.
============================================================================

>    Hartford Civic Center Hartford CT (3/19/90)
 
I was gonna comment on this show which I was at, but couldn't compare it 
to Albany because I wasn't there.  Then I remember why.  Timmy (my son) was
born on 4/16/90, shortly after Hartford... in some ways it seems so recent,
but then Timmy is in his 2nd week of 1st grade already - yikes!  Where does
the time go ?   I remember getting the best seats in the house at the 
Hartford CC, 1st row balcony in the back - Mindy was *very* pregnant and
those seats worked great.

> 3/24/90

Here's another good reason for releasing it:  CD's seem so much more reliable 
and convenient than DAT tape... and there are a few more cd players than
dat players out there.

/Ken

    
    BTW Ken, thanks for providing me with those grate tickets to 3/24/90 :^)
    
    Hogan who always knew that you weren't at that show and why, and will
    forever be grateful to Timmy :^)
    
    

    OK, I dug out my Hamilton 3-21-90 tapes and gave it a listen.  This was
    a great show, and the "Half Step" is the WaN version.  I haven't found
    my 3-22-90 tapes yet, but I'll give it another chance.
    
    I also re-listened to 3-24-90 and still feel that it was the best show
    of the tour.  The only weak song is "Stella Blue," and it's only weak
    by comparison to the rest of the tape.  The "Watchtower" is probably
    the best version I've heard (but 75% of the versions of this song get
    tossed out due to Dan Healy's sb games).
    
    Does anyone have a rumored release date?
    
    Jamie

>    Does anyone have a rumored release date?

  It says Oct. 29th in the gdead newsgroup...      - JayC.    

>  It says Oct. 29th in the gdead newsgroup...

  Sheesh.  Well, the latest info-byte from the gdead newsgroup is to watch
  dead.net (don't think I've been there).
  
  They'll be addressing the "3rd" vault "rumor" (you'll remember the
  reported source was David Gans...), and announcing a 6th Dick's Pick.

  So, at least a Dick's Picks 6 is nigh.
  
  I'm guessing 3/24/90 is too, because the source for the Oct. 29th release
  date (supposedly) was an Arista spokesperson.  Oh well, wati & see.  - JayC.

  Well, while vaultheads watch http://grateful.dead.net for enlightenment...
  A couple of tidbits from the gdead newsgroup:
  
  - Steve Silberman says the song title "Mind Left Body Jam" is a Deadbase
    invention, and some other name (Baron von Tollbooth jam...?) will be
    used when it comes out in a vault release.  In the meantime, Phil and
    Dick jokingly refer to it as "Mud Love Buddy".
    
  - Before 3/24/90 Knickerbocker, the rumored next_vault_release was 
    Englishtown 9/3/77 [or perhaps Binghamton 11/6/77].  As these would
    probably be Dick's Picks, who knows, could still be true.
    
    I recently got a tape of 9/3/77 but would be pleased as punch with
    either of these as a Dick's Pick, esp. if Knickerbocker also emerges in
    the Vault thread.
    
    It's evident by now though that the wind changes every few weeks where
    vault selections are concerned.  For example, it's been confirmed by a
    couple of people (including Dick L.) that at one point they "picked"
    Harpur 5/2/70, spent a couple months preparing it...  then Phil vetoed
    it.
  JayC.

    I'm not that familiar with Deadbase, are there many "Mind Left Body" jams?
    I only know of one, 12/2/73 (I think) and it's a corker.  Would love to hear
    one of these come out in a Vault.
    
    /rick
    

    
    If they settle on 11/6/77
    
    
    we finally may get a Scarlet-Fire....
    
    
    i think..

Location: Broome County Arena, Binghamton, NY
Date: 11/6/77
Mississippi Half-Step		Samson and Delilah     
Jack Straw                      Sunrise                
Tennessee Jed                   Scarlet Begonias       
Mexicali Blues                  Fire on the Mountain   
Me and My Uncle                 Good Lovin'            
Friend of the Devil             St. Stephen            
New Minglewood Blues            drums                  
Dupree's Diamond Blues          Not Fade Away          
Passenger                       Wharf Rat              
Dire Wolf                       St. Stephen            
Music Never Stopped             Truckin'               
                                                       
                                Johnny B. Goode        

                       <<< Note 542.46 by HELIX::CLARK >>>

Hey J,

Thanks for the info.  Just a couple comments....

>  - Steve Silberman says the song title "Mind Left Body Jam" is a Deadbase
>    invention, and some other name (Baron von Tollbooth jam...?) will be
>    used when it comes out in a vault release.  In the meantime, Phil and
>    Dick jokingly refer to it as "Mud Love Buddy".
 
Isn't there a song on _Baron von Tollbooth and the Chrome Nun_ titled
"My Mind Left My Body"?  I'll have to go look tonight...if I remember..
Anyway that's how I thought the loosely similar jam got it's name...

>   - Before 3/24/90 Knickerbocker, the rumored next_vault_release was 
>    Englishtown 9/3/77 [or perhaps Binghamton 11/6/77].  As these would
>    probably be Dick's Picks, who knows, could still be true.
 
Even though I *LOVE* 9/3/77, there are enough good copies floating around
that I'd rather see a show I know less about....

thanks!
bob

    
    Quite a setlist there...

    There is a tune called "Your Mind Has Left Your Body" on the
    Baron Von Tollbooth album (one of these days RCA will get their
    act together and get the CD released--this is one of the only
    reasons I keep a turntable around...). Jerry even plays pedal steel
    on it, which may be where he picked up the jam.
    
    Paul Kantner has also released a 2-CD set that is a spoken word
    history of the early SF days. It's a wonderful story, particularly
    the pre-SF days around the peninsula when they were all doing folk
    gigs and hanging out.

  I think Deadbase lists about 5 "Mind Left Body" jams...
  
  And yeah, the song "Your Mind Has Left Your Body" from the Baron Von
  Tollbooth album is supposed to be similar to a theme from at least one of
  the Mind Left Body (Mud Love Buddy) jams.
  
  Problem is, at least according to folks who have heard more than 1 or 2,
  no 2 Mind Left Body's seem to have much, if anything, in common...  - JayC.

    On 12/2/73, "Mind Left Body" comes out of "Playing...", so it's kind of
    a variation on a Playing jam of that time.  This is the kind of stuff I
    thought Rock Scully was lovingly referring to as "insect death music".
    

  Fwiw...
  
>    On 12/2/73, "Mind Left Body" comes out of "Playing...", so it's kind of
>    a variation on a Playing jam of that time.  This is the kind of stuff I
>    thought Rock Scully was lovingly referring to as "insect death music".

  According to pmDeadbase [my name for the ASCII repository based on
  Deadbase VII], this was the 4th & last jam designated Mind Left Body by
  Deadbase.  The first not to sprout out of Dark Star.
  
  Deadbase may have changed their criteria for Mind Left Body for Deadbase
  IX -- designations for jams were revamped in general, at least according
  to their preface or preamble.  Though maybe it only affected songs jammed
  w/o a visit to the lyrics (Other One jam, Dark Star jam, Playing jam,
  etc.).

  Anyway, Phil/Dick/John apparently have little regard for Deadbase's
  attempts to systemize namings of jams.   8)    - JayC.

	I am digging all this conversation although I've had nothing
	to say (keep it up!) because -I- always assumed that it was
	called Mind-Left-Body because that's what happens when you
	hear it ;-) ;-) ;-)

	this is all a learning experience for me!

	I would say, JayC, that it seems that they -do- give credence
	to the jams' "name" in Deadbase - because they are pranksteristically
	fooling with it - either changing it to words that sound awful
	similar or to a name which points to the album the song is on.

	Debess

    Was please to see that GDM/Arista issued this CD in {HDCD} high
    definition for better overall sound, even if you don't have a 
    HDCD player these CD's do sound a lot better. Have the latest 
    Neil Young and Chris Isaak and both sound great on my system IMO.
    
    :^)
    
    

    re;note by OTOOA::REILLY
    
    is zis da infamous Reilly Platt speaking up!!!
    
    rfb

    Sean Reilly from the Ottawa area, not from Boston...
    
    wish I waz though! He makes a lot more $$$
    
    :^)
    
    

    oh, that's right...howdy Sean!
    
    rfb

  Well, if you believe what people swear to be true in rec.music.gdead, the
  next Vault release Phil, John Cutler, & co. are working on is:

       2/11/69, Fillmore East
       
  To me this is an interesting rumor, because

  (a) Dick has said 2/28/69 Fillmore West will be a future Dick's Pick
  (b) the online ASCII Deadbase has only this for 2/11/69...

Location: Fillmore East, New York, NY
Date: 2/11/69 Late
King Bee
Dupree's
Mountains Of The Moon
Dark Star ->
St Stephen ->
Eleven
Lovelight

Hey Jude
(possibly From Early Show)

  - JayC.

  A couple of details I forgot to mention about 2/11/69 as a rumored Vault
  release...  (From the r.m.gd source:)
  
  "Dark Star" is supposed to be killer...  Like most Vault candidates
  the master is 16-track, but most of the music happens on 2 tracks...
  Dupree's is truncated after the first minute.
  
  Someone was asking if this is the "Lovelight" Janis Joplin sat in
  on...  Probably not so, but interesting to imagine!   - JayC.
  
> Location: Fillmore East, New York, NY
> Date: 2/11/69 Late
> King Bee
> Dupree's
> Mountains Of The Moon
> Dark Star ->
> St Stephen ->
> Eleven
> Lovelight

> Hey Jude
> (possibly From Early Show)

  Apologies if I'm repeating information posted in here earlier...
  
  From r.m.gd:   ICE magazine says the next Vault release (again, the
  16-track series, not Dick's 2-tracks) has a working title of "Adventures
  in the Phil Zone".  David Gans replied that noone knows what's on it, but
  that he, Dick L., and John Cutler were asked (presumably by Phil) for
  suggestions.

  That "Phil Zone" hanging off www.dead.net is pretty interesting.
  Eroica symphony analysis...  Phil's bedstand...  Why TV is bad for kids...
  
  By the way, let me further clarify about 2/11/69 as a rumored Vault
  release...  The reason people were asking if Janis Joplin appears for that
  show's Lovelight is that she did guest on up to 4 Lovelights -- and Janis
  was the top half of the bill that night.   - JayC.

2-11-69 would be a killer vault release!
i have a few shows from that rough time period
and they all are very classic dead (those killer
acid years!)

> 2-11-69 would be a killer vault release!
> i have a few shows from that rough time period
> and they all are very classic dead (those killer
> acid years!)


  Rumors of 2/11/69 as a Vault release persist.  Supposedly it's listed
  on some HDCD web site as a forthcoming release.
  
  Set list a couple of replies back.  Killah Dark Star.  Janis was on the
  bill, but may or may not guest on Lovelight.  Etc.    - JayC.

  I keep forgetting to mention:
  
  Scuttle-butt from rec.music.gdead is that Dick's Picks 8 is on for
  mid/late June...  [which applying the usual slip factor should mean early
  July...]
  
  2/11/69 -- including the early show not listed in Deadbase -- still
  appears to be what's on tap, but that's less certain than the fact a
  Dick's Pick is 3-6 weeks away.  For one thing, 2/11/69 has been rumored as
  an HDCD vault [not DP] release.

  Meanwhile, someone got a look at the cut list for a vault release,
  "Adventures in the Phil Zone", and was blown away.  (Phil was soliciting
  suggestions from Dick, John, etc., for this a while ago.)  No time frame
  given, but sounds promising...  - JayC.