Conference rdvax::grateful

    Don't know what songs will be included but this is supposed to be a 3
    CD set so hopefully we get everything. Here's the setlist anyway:
    
    Oakland Auditorium Arena, Oakland, CA (12/26/79)
    
    I: Cold Rain and Snow,C.C. Rider,Dire Wolf,Me and My Uncle,Big River
    Brown Eyed Women,New Minglewood Blues,Friend of the Devil,Looks Like Rain
    Alabama Getaway,Promised Land
    
    II: Uncle John's Band,Estimated Prophet,He's Gone,The Other One,drums
    Not Fade Away,Brokedown Palace,Around and Around,Johnny B. Goode
    
    E: Shakedown Street,Uncle John's Band
    
    
       

	yep - it's 3 CDs - $18.50 + shipping

Two Uncle John's Bands for the price of one!  Yow!

  All right!
  
  Wonder if we'll be seeing multiple DPs per calendar year, from now on...
  One per quarter would sure suit me fine.   - JayC.


  P.S.  I forget which string already contains comment on the reggae tribute
        to the Dead...  This was reviewed in last Thursday's Globe Calendar.
        Sounds grate, from the description -- artists carefully matched to
        tunes, & everything.
        
        Between this and the career retrospectives now coming out for Toots
        & the Maytals, Burning Spear, etc., I'm priming for a reggae <->
        Dead mini-binge...

>                       -< rare show, doing a song twice >-

	is it really done twice, I wonder...by the way it begins the
	2nd set and is the last encore, I kinda think maybe it was
	begun and meant to be finished later, but they forgot! and
	then finished it as an encore ???

	we shall see....

        what do you gotta do to get a Scarlet/fire on CD...????

    i agree with daveb
    i think we have had enough other one's for a lifetime
    
    
    jayc
    career retros on toots and burning spear?
    what is the deal on this?
    by the way
    if you ever get a chance to see Toots, check him out..he kicks ass
    
    and his 3 daughters who sing backup are SMOKING!
    :^)

the encore is actually more of an "uncle john's reprise"

pretty nice, i've had the 12-26-79 (set II) tape for awhile
now ... 


re: 529.6 :

recently got a nice version of the 5-8-77 scarlet -> fire
tape recorded from CD (bootleg, i think) ... one of my favorites
for many moons ... the transition into fire is so sweet ...
leaves you with nothin' to do but smile, smile, smile  :~}

arm

    I also would like to see some different songs, that's
    3 "other's" from Dick's Picks.

re"            <<< Note 529.8 by SUBSYS::TURCOTTE "Armand Turcotte" >>>

>recently got a nice version of the 5-8-77 scarlet -> fire
>tape recorded from CD (bootleg, i think) ... one of my favorites
>for many moons ... the transition into fire is so sweet ...
>leaves you with nothin' to do but smile, smile, smile  :~}

But don't bother buying the CD - there are grate copies of 5/8/77 around
on tape!

/Ken

>    I also would like to see some different songs, that's
>    3 "other's" from Dick's Picks.

	this is the 1st Estimated from Dick, isn't it?  And Shakedown...

	personally, I don't think I could -ever- get enough OtherOne's
	to last -me- a lifetime...love it!  glad Dick does too!

	Debess

    There was an estimated eyes on the last one debess
    
    don't get me wrong..the other one is cool but we are overdue for a
    pisser scarlet fire
    

>    There was an estimated eyes on the last one debess

	there was??? last one was from the same shows as Bear's Choice,
	wasnt' it?...that's, what, '70, '71...
    
>    don't get me wrong..the other one is cool but we are overdue for a
>    pisser scarlet fire

	don't get me wrong either ;-)...I agree!

	Debess

	ps - Chris, have you put in directions to your place...if I don't
	get 'em today, I won't be able to find the party!

    

    actually it was number 3
    something/something/77
    
    
    
   Direx are in the Full Moon Fever Note
    

Is 5/8/77 from the Boston Garden?

	barton hall, cornell.
	
	5/7 was BG
	
	(get a deadbase, dammit ;-)

    >>something/something/77
    
    5/22/77 The Sportatorium, Hollywood, FL 

    One of the first tapes I ever got from someone was the 5/77 from
    Cornell, with outstanding quality/clarity the Scarlet/Fire
    is one of the best I have ever heard, now if I can just find it...

    re;
     now if I can just find it...
    
    doncha hate that when that happens?..i go thru spurts where I know
    where everyone of my tapes are...then i go thru a period where i can't
    find even one of the tapes i know i have but can find everyone i
    *DON'T* want at the time
    
    
    rfb

    I think it is called ADD (attention deficit disorder).

    
    Most missing tapes are prolly on the floor of my car.  I have this
    habit of collecting others tapes after several beverages.  I love to
    listen to other peoples tapes on the way home.    So if anyone is
    missing any....  

    RE -.1
    
    I can attest to such behavior.

I can't believe they played the Sportatorium in '77.  I've been there
- several times.  In fact, if I recall correctly, in January of '77,
just before I moved from Florida to Mass (the first time), I saw the
Beach Boys there...listened to Brian Wilson croak through 90 minutes
of 60's retro before I couldn't stand it anymore.  

It's a dump.  Tapes must sound like they were recorded through a beer
can.

tim

    
    >listened to Brian Wilson croak through 90 minutes
    
    yow Tim .. HIGH threshold of pain in those daze huh? 

    The Sportatorium...wow.  I grew up in South Florida, and
    saw many concerts there (I even played in a little league
    soccer all-star game there).  As of five years ago, the
    place was deserted, i mean literally deserted.  They
    "bulldozed" it down last year, to make room for a
    shopping center.  
    
    --Brian
    
    PS:  The place was a dump....I never knew the Dead played
    it....funny..
    

        >   -< rare show, doing a song twice >-

	10-24-79 Spfld CC

	Playin'>Drums>Wharf-Rat>Playin'

	My first show!   I remember when they started the 2nd playin
	I wuz like Yowza they've been playing this song for 40 minutes!!!

	sigh

	Toby

>    The Sportatorium...wow.  I grew up in South Florida, and

Hey Brian, where?

I lived in the north end of Palm Beach county with my family from '71
to 77...

Wierdest show I ever saw at the Sportatorium was probably a
triple-biller in the mid-70's: Bachman-Turner Overdrive, followed by
Spirit, with the headliner of Focus.  Now THAT was a strange
crowd...;-)


tim

    on shit...now Hocus Pocus is stuck in my head....thanks Tim! grrrrrr
    
    
    rfb_saw Focus in 74 in PHX

    RE: 27
    
    I was born in New Jersey, but grew up near Hollywood, FL.
    My actual hometown is Pembroke Pines, FL, aka Dick's
    Picks III.  I went to high school in Davie (This is
    all in Broward County, obviously).  My parents live
    in Pembroke Pines.
    
    --Brian
    
    PS:  I can't believe I'm admitting this, but the last concert
    I saw at the Sportatorium was in 1984, Van Halen.  WAY
    before I got into the Dead, although I had good seats, and
    watching Eddie Van Halen was pretty neat :-).
    

How very wierd.

>    I was born in New Jersey, 

I was born in Camden, New Jersey....1954, so it sounds like I'm a bit
older...

>but grew up near Hollywood, FL.
>    My actual hometown is Pembroke Pines, FL, aka Dick's
>    Picks III.  I went to high school in Davie (This is
>    all in Broward County, obviously).  My parents live
>    in Pembroke Pines.

North Palm Beach from High School through college.

Very strange.

Maybe we're cousins.  ;-)

izn't everybody in FLA cousins???  or is that Maine?

:)))

    Re: 31
    
    Oh, definitely Maine :-D.  Florida, especially South Florida, is
    one of the most diverse parts of the country.  It's hard
    to find true "native" Floridians, most are from somewhere
    else, usually the Tri-State area and New England.
    
    --Brian
    
    
    
    
                            

>    career retros on toots and burning spear?
>    what is the deal on this?

  Stolen from topic 473, "New Releases", in KDX200::MUSIC...
  
  No details on the issuing label or the number of CDs.  I'd guess either
  Island or a reissue label (Rhino, Razor & Tie, ...), and would wish for 2
  CDs per.  - JayC.
=======================================================================
                           Upcoming New Releases

 This is a tentative new release schedule. All dates are subject to change.
  
June 18th

Angels - Best of
> Burning Spear - Chant Down Babylon: Anthology
Enormous - Busman's Holiday
Fiji Mariners - Fiji
Finn Brothers - Finn Brothers
Frampton,Peter - Greatest Hits
Gore,Leslie - It's My Party
Headcrash - Overdose on Tradition
Jackopierce - Finest Hour
Shangri-Las - Best Of
Soundtrack - Crow: City Of Angels
Soundtrack - Georgia
Soundtrack - Mission: Impossible (The Score)
Sovory - Sovory
> Toots and the Maytals - Time Tough: Anthology
Various Artists - Growin' Up Too Fast: Sound of the Girl Groups
Various Artists - Schoolhouse Rock! Box Set
=======================================================================

    Wow, I just realized how far off the subject we've gotton
    from the title of this note..oh well.  Anyway, I just picked
    up a few weeks ago--DP4, which I absolutely love, by the
    way.  My plan was to backtrack and order DP3, 'cuz I've
    heard only good things about it, and well it's from my
    hometown!!!  
    
    But now with DP5, what do I do (such problems, I know)?
    
    Any opinions on what's worth picking up next, since I
    can't afford all of at this time.  I have DP2 & DP4
    already.
    
    --Brian
    

    get the 100 year hall cd Brian
    
    Good Stuff on dere!

�    get the 100 year hall cd Brian
    
    Absolutely...
    
    I've had it for 6 months, and there's still a spot toward the
    end of the lovelite jam where the accumulated joy and sweetness of
    the music just brings me to tears...
          
    /bruce

    re: .35, .36
    
    Yep, got 100 Year Hall.  EXCELLENT!!!!!!  I love the
    very laid back China -> Rider, Lovelight is awesome,
    I like the Playin', whole first disk is fantastic.
    2nd disk -- not to shabby either!!!!  The 
    Cryptical Envelopment is excellent, I just have to
    really be in the mood for it, 30+ minutes and all.
    
    So, back to my question DP3 or DP5???? :-D
    
    --Brian
    

    Answer=
    BOTH!
    
    no need to forsake one for the othah

    >     Answer=
    >    BOTH!
    >
    >    no need to forsake one for the othah
    
    Unless of course, the wallet didn't have enough money in it,
    and the credicards were already maxed out...
    
    PeterT

Funny synch here.  Been listening to 100 Year Hall all afternoon here...

    go to the "lost Wallet" note and ask JC foe a loan
    
    
    %^)
    
    
    rb

    
    
    
    			Bonjour,
    
    	Hey it's not happening everyday !... This is a "FrenchDEADlover"'s
    	reply ...
    
    	My favorite vault and DP record is "One from the vault" I think
    	it's because it was the first of the series i bought ...
     	I love very mutch the others too ... Hundred year all DP 1 & 3
    	and 2 from the vault  ......  EXCELLENT .....
    
    	In France we cannot find "2 from the vault" How is it ?...
    
    	I hope DP4 & 5 will come quikly in our shops ...
    
    	It's not easy to get into this note from France it's to long
    	so I cannot read all the topics and replies ...
    
    	It's not the subject but   ... When I see all the tape trees
    	and the list of the songs, ther's slaver flowing out from
    	my mouth .... I dont anderstand anything about branches and leaves
    	etc ...       I'm very interested about "the best of Jerry" and
    	many others  ...  So what can I do ?...           
    
        Excuse me for my poor English,  have a nice trip everybody ...
    
    	Bye,
    
        Marek.
    
    	
                                       

    hey now merek! welcome to the insane asylum! I'll send you any tape or
    CD via mail that U may want. just ask! and be patient...we're not the
    fastest to react around here.
    
    rfb

    yeah 
    dermot was able to get a jerry tribute stone issue from jayjolls some
    time back....
    maybe we can do the same here
    
    and who are you calling a nut barnes?
    :^)

hey now Merek!

another welcome from this corner!  i'm afraid i no longer have the equpiment
to make copies for you, but it's nice to see someone new here...

as for branches and leaves, the analogy is to a tree...  the owner/provider
of the source tape is the "trunk" of the tree...  the first level of copies after 
that would be the "branches" and the last set of copies would be "leaves"...
one trunk can have several branches, and each branch can have many leaves...
comprenez?  that way< no one person has to make dozens of copies< but there
are many tapes being distributed!

				da ve

    
    
    > Dick's Picks V can be ordered now (1-800-CAL-DEAD)
    
    	If you have a credit card, you may want to try this 
    	number and see if they will send you D.P. II to 
    	France.
    
    	I don't see why they wouldn't, but the shipping will 
    	cost a little more.

�    	I don't see why they wouldn't, but the shipping will 
�    	cost a little more.
    
    so will the call; I do not believe that
    the 800 number will work from overseas.
    
    /b

    
    yes it will.  Just dial the U.S. country code prior
    to making your call.

�    yes it will.  Just dial the U.S. country code prior
�    to making your call.
    
    Way cool!

    Are you sure about 800 numbers outside the North America Numbering
    Plan?
    
    For some fern systems, the notion of a "toll free" call within the
    country is relatively new, let alone internationally. There are other
    aspects of 800 calls that probably would not propagate across gateways,
    or may even violate privacy laws in other countries.
    
    One thing you could try is to call the local access number for
    AT&T and see if they will place the call (AT&T have a setup in many
    countries that allows you to dial a local number and get an AT&T
    operator).
    
    gary

My money would bet that 800 #s don't work from out of the USA.
heck, they have some 800 numebrs that only work in-state.

    
    
    
    			Hi,
    
    	Well  well well ... 800 doesnt work ...I just tried it  ...
    
    	I made a mistake... It's not "2 from the vault" that we cannot find.
	it's "Dick's Picks 2" .I went to the shop: no DP4 & 5 too ...
    
    	What's the price of these CDs and to send them in France ?
    
    	Maybe Mr Leblancc is the  
    	"CAnadienfrenchinutlostinthemidleoffunclesamjungle"  hum isn't he ?
    	by the way I'm shure it's not a Corean name .
    
    		So well I have to go now ...
    
    		Gros bisous ...
    
    		Marek.

    so whadda we gotta do to get shtuff to Europe Jayjolls....?
    you sent Dermot something didn't you?

	yes. i'm also sending the _Best_of_Jerry_Vol_1 to Holland.
	
	get you to a post office, with 'murican dollars in hand.
	when they ask "what's inside" you say "dead animal parts".
	
	;-)
	

    Jay jollimore-DEC employee by day
    
    bootleg freight forwarder/exporter by night
    
    
    

    somewhere, someone said that CD2 of DP5 is pretty close to nirvana...
    
    
    i now second that sentiment!!!!!  %^)
    
    rfb

    I agree could be the best of the pack.

>    somewhere, someone said that CD2 of DP5 is pretty close to nirvana...

  I agree about Disc 2.  (He's Gone coulda been taken at a slightly
  faster clip, but I love the tasty, near-acappella resolution...)    
    
  First time through, I thought Disc 1 was pretty much dog food, but now
  several 1st-set cuts are growing on me steadily.  From Cold Rain & Snow to
  Looks Like Rain/ Alabama Getaway->Promised Land... (From sea to shining sea..)
  
  Uncle John's Band & reprise frame the 2nd set like bookends -- absolutely
  great.   - JayC.

    I played cd1 three times before moving on.....
    
    rfb

I'll take anything Dick wants to send our way....

Including more disks w/ Dark Stars and Other Ones :) :) :)

I LOVE DPV but also love DPIII and I think it's DPII with the 
little dark star > jam....

little?  awesome!!!

I want a 6/30/85 and 7/1/85 compilation....gotta have those for the
shakedown!!! need a killer shakedown and the scarlet > fire...WE"VE BEEN
WAITING FOR SO LONG :)

bob

    I'll second that 6/30/85 Shakedown from Merriweather. They
    tore the roof off with that Shakedown.
    
    Another good DP candidate is the 6/20/83 Merriweather show.
    The Wharf Rat>Sugar Mag are definitive versions. They were
    pissed off and just played harder as the power kept getting
    knocked out by a torrential thunderstorm. They never missed
    a beat either;-)

    ANY SHAKEDOWN WOULD SUIT ME FINE FOR UPCOMING DP'S
    
    HOW ABOUT 6/28/74? FOR THE NEXT DP'S
    AS FOR SCARLET ->FIRE , HOW ABOUT 3/22/90 HAMILTON- ITS A PERSONEL FAV!
                                            ROSS

    
    re - 3/22/90
    
    mmmmm, Yeah.
    
    I also recall a stellar Shakedown that I have on tape from Harford 
    in 1984. 

    re:    
     >   -< rare show, doing a song twice >-
    
            10-24-79 Spfld CC
    
            Playin'>Drums>Wharf-Rat>Playin'
    Reminds me of my favorite 2nd set, done numerous times:
    	Sugar Mags ->
    	The REST of the Set
    	Sunshine Daydream.
    
    I know two. One was 12/31/78, Winterland. Can't remember the other...
    
    /danno

	it was about 6or7 years of going to Deadshowz before I realized
	they did this!  uh, duh!

	Debess

  Comparing "Favorite Tapes" lists between Deadbase IX and its immediate
  predecessor, I noticed a couple of things...

  Lots of commonality.  There are 11 shows from 69-74; 3 shows from 77-8;
  and 5 shows from 89-91 that aren't wavering in anyone's estimation.
  Pretty much shows I'd at least heard about, except the '89 ones (10/9/89
  Hampton VA and 10/16/89 3rd of 3 at Meadowlands).
  
  Shows rapidly rising in favor seem to be 2/15/73 (Madison WI, the next
  known show after 2/9/73 Stanford); and 9/26/91 (6th of 6 at Boston
  Garden).

  One show that seems to be less favored is 2/26/77 (San Bernadino CA, 1st
  Estimated & Terrapin).  Beats me (though I haven't heard the whole thing).
    - JayC.

  For anyone 'base-free...  The Deadbase IX consensus favorite tapes (viewed
  another way, most likely to be overrated) go something like listed below.

  I was amazed, even in the wake of the 2nd Coming misfortune, I was able to
  stumble onto about a third of these (not that I could afford them) on CDs.
  God bless college towns (& their radio stations too...).   - JayC.
===============================================  
3/1/69   Fillmore West, SF (3rd of 4)

2/13/70  Fillmore East, NY (1st of 2 after 2/11)  [BEAR'S, DP4]
2/14/70  Fillmore East, NY (2nd of 3 after 2/11)  [BEAR'S, DP4]
5/2/70   Harpur College, NY

4/28/71  Fillmore East, NY (4th of 5)
4/29/71  Fillmore East, NY (5th of 5)

8/27/72  Veneta, OR [benefit]

2/9/73   Stanford, CA [debuts for debs...]
2/15/73  Madison, WI
5/26/73  Kazar, SF

6/18/74  Freedom Hall, KY

8/13/75  Great American Hall, SF        [ONE FROM THE VAULT]

5/8/77   Cornell, NY
5/9/77   Buffalo, NY

7/8/78   Red Rocks, CO (2nd of 2)
12/31/78 Winterland, SF

10/9/89  Hampton, VA (2nd of 2)
10/16/89 Meadowlands, NJ (3rd of 3)

3/29/90  Nassau Col., NY (w/ Marsalis, 2nd of 3)

9/10/91  Madison Sq. Garden, NY (w/ Marsalis, 3rd of 9)
9/26/91  Boston Garden, MA (6th of 6)
===============================================  

  Checking my watch...
  
  OK, so Dick's Picks 4 was released 3/96, orderable from GDM last week of Feb.
  
  Dick's Picks 5 was released 6/96, orderable from GDM last week of May.

  Therefore, as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow, Dick's Picks 6 will be
  orderable end of Aug...  Dick's Picks 7 just in time for Xmas, and so on.

  I suggested to a GDM gnome a Dick's Picks subscription series...  They
  ship each new DP volume automatically to me (and other customers, even)
  and charge it to my (their) MC/VISA.  She just laughed.   - JayC.

    so what's so funny???
    
    
    %^)
    rfb_who would go for that deal

I probably would too.  For GDM, it'll be as good as printing money. :-).
Hell, I already have my credit card and address on the PC's of my two main
blank DAT tape distributors, I just call 'em up and a few days later the
blanks are at my door.  so easy its scary...especially when I order some
blanks then forget I ordered 'em, then find this package at my door....

 - josh

    I agree, I would do it.

  There used to be a Dick's Picks VI string, but it got wiped out in a crash
  or flood or something...  So I'll tack this on here.
  
  I finally got around to my 3rd listen to Dick's Picks 6 (Hartford '82),
  before filing it away for a while...
  
  I guess my revised 2 cents on the show is, what justifies this being a
  Pick to me is the Spinach > Other One > Stella > Sugar Magnolia sequence
  on CD 3.  IMO the boyz only wake up & get in synch after Drums.  Maybe
  they needed a nap first.   (kidding!)
  
  The Scarlet > Fire > Estimated > Eyes on CD 2 is great on paper, but...
  It's like someone commented in here -- *how* the band is playing is more
  important than *what* they're playing.  They shoulda circled back and
  played Scarlet..Eyes again after they woke up.  8)

  Just my opinion du jour.   - JayC.