Conference rdvax::grateful

    Jerry's description of the Altamont scene made the place sound  worse 
    than any deer creek riot coulda been

    Really... he said it was a nice afternoon in hell.  Even the 
    light was weird... Dec 1969 end of the sixties.

    I didn't realize the importance of the scene until I saw this...
    things went to hell pretty quickly after the Summer of Love.

    Country Joe was pretty funny.

    Tom

I take back 100% of what I said about the current PBS Rock & Roll 10 part
series being the same one as the R & R history that was on some other
channel about 8-9 months ago.
Its a different series, but I think some of the talking head interview clips
are common.

Last night's 2 episodes were both excellent.  I loved the anecdotes that the
performers all told, always with a keen twinkle in their eye!

Jerry on the hellish atmospherics at Altamont, and Phil admitting that maybe
the GD should have played in the late afternoon just to help fill up the
time because the Stones were waiting till darkness to take the stage for
filming.

Rock Scully on how they were always trying to dose the A&R men who came out
to San Fran, so that they could turn them on to the scene.  

Grace saying she has a limited range (demonstrates wonderfully squeaky attempt
at lullaby) but says she's a screamer and could blow the camera away.

Phil describing the Flood at their Woodstock "performance", and how the
Air Force radio comm's started coming out of his bass amp, and puts his
hand to his mouth and mimes the effect :-).  I never heard _that_ story
before, though I'd heard the one about Bobby putting his mouth to his mike
and getting shocked.

Crosby about the huge Woodstock crowd:  "Your mind just goes, one, two,
three..._many_", and how they didn't care about the crowd in front so much
as the crowd of their peers back stage.  "Ok, you made the record, but
can you sound that good live?"

Eric, Jeff and Jimmy on their Yardbirds days.  Jeff on his Yardbirds audition!

Noel Redding on Jimi - "he played 8-9 hours a day, it was no accident he was
that good", and how Jimi could memorize the one good lick another guitarist
might play in a night's mediocre playing.

Van grousing about how the Stones had "their own operation" but Van and his
band had no money, staying in B & B's and sleeping in their bus.

The Stone's pilgramage to 2120 South Michigan Ave, and sitting at Howling
Wolf's feet while he belts out "How Many More Years".   I'd seen that clip
before (its in the Stone's excellent rockumentary "20x5") but I still love it.

Bill Wyman about how Andrew Loog Oldham bought the band suits, but the boys
conviently lost bits and pieces of them.

 Josh

>Phil describing the Flood at their Woodstock "performance", and how the
>Air Force radio comm's started coming out of his bass amp, and puts his
>hand to his mouth and mimes the effect :-).  

I also cracked up at the story about putting the screen up (during the
rainstorm) on the back of the stage, for the visuals.  All of a sudden
the wind blows and the stage starts heading down the hill!  They pull
out their knives and rip it to shreds to save the stage... incredible.

>Crosby about the huge Woodstock crowd:  "Your mind just goes, one, two,
>three..._many_", and how they didn't care about the crowd in front so much
>as the crowd of their peers back stage.  "Ok, you made the record, but
>can you sound that good live?"

    Yeah, they couldn't!  

oh man, that was so, so  sweet...
lots of Jerry - happy, laughing Jerry

my favorite quotes:
Ken Kesey (about the Acid Tests and the Dead): they were a hairy,
bad-looking bunch a guys.  I wasn't that interested in their music but
I sure thought that they were on their way to no good ;-)
Jerry:what we did was R&B plus large amounts of weirdness in it, ya 
know.  ane we didn't seem to be able to NOT do it ;-)

that show made me smile a LOT!


Debess

  Noone's yet mentioned the first 2 episodes...
  
  The first was excellent, starting with a scene of someone in a car
  searching for a radio station.  Past Patty (Patti?) Page, past Perry Como,
  on to Wynonie Harris belting "Good Rockin' Tonight" - stop -  .
  
  That is, it begins with the late 40s folks who simplified, streamlined,
  bluesified and boogiefied jazz & pop sources and fashioned the early model
  for R&B and rock -- Wynonie Harris, Louis Jordan, ...
  
  A nice nod to that southern radio station (WLAC?), whose signal reached
  into the midwest and down to Jamaica & the islands, seeding 50s blues and
  R&B across the country, into early island styles, starting a current that
  carried as far as Europe and Africa (echoed in today's African pop
  styles).  Talk about ripple in still waters...  The cumulative impact over
  time seems to me almost beyond comprehension.  American roots music became
  world music.
  
  Onto New Orleans (Fats Domino, Little Richard), Chuck Berry, Elvis, ...
  Making all the connections, showing the seething cross pollination.

  I'm forgetting where episode 1 ended and 2 began...  I think 2 picked up
  with Leiber & Stoller (Coasters, Drifters, Ben E. King, Elvis, etc.), then
  the other Brill Building successes (Goffin-King, etc.), in connection with
  early R&B groups.  Then Phil Spector, who emerged out of the Brill scene,
  then his stable (Ronnettes, Darlene Love, Righteous Bros., ...), then girl
  groups in general.  Then Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys.
  
  Finally, comments from Leiber-Stoller, Ben E. King, Brian Wilson, and the
  others on the "invasion" of the Beatles -- viewed with no little
  resentment.  Brian couldn't understand the reaction they were getting ("'I
  Want to Hold Your Hand' isn't that great a song", he says).  Ben E. King
  says the American R&B wave was about to become "something really big",
  then the Beatles and other British invaders turned the market in a
  different direction.  Many many examples are given of hits, opportunities,
  and gigs drying up...  Some reference is made to the Beatles roots in
  skiffle, which derived from Amercian folk, etc. etc.  Foreshadowing the
  treatment of Dylan and the Beatles in espisode 3.

  Not to repeat myself but, I think this series is excelling at illuminating
  connections and relationships between everything that was happening.  - Jay

    Talk on last night's episode of a business man who showed up at one of
    the acid tests and asked what was going on, eventually joined in the
    celebration and began looking and his shadow and saying things like
    "Now the king is walking".
    
    Was this a reference to Bill Graham - kind of  surprised he wasn't
    mentioned a bit more? MAJOR player in getting that whole scene noticed.

    >    Was this a reference to Bill Graham - kind of  surprised he wasn't
    >    mentioned a bit more? MAJOR player in getting that whole scene noticed.
    
    	Since Kesey said something like "he always wondered whatever
    happened to that businessman after that night", I assume it wasn't 
    Bill G, who Kesey no doubt knew... Or did I miss an invisible smiley in
    .-1? :^)
    
    Chuck- who as a youth worked at the Cow Palace, and had as his proudest
    posession a "STAFF- Bill Graham Presents a Day on the Green" T-shirt
    which he wore until it was more shreds than shirt :^)

    >>Since Kesey said something like "he always wondered whatever
    >>happened to that businessman after that night", I assume it wasn't
    
    I musta missed that part. 
    Strange then that Bill wasn't mentioned.

Eric Clapton wanted out of the Yardbirds because they going too pop for him,
and he was going deeper into the blues.  Eric compared the Yardbirds as
turning into something like 10CC, and he said it with no small amount of
disgust!

Near the end of the blues episode, while showing scenes of Led Zep getting
into the heavy fuzz/sustain/distortion thing and away from blues, the 
narrator noted how Led Zep spawned a host of derivative bands such as 
Deep Purple etc, again, said in such a way as to make clear the producers
think the original bands (Stones etc) were far far better!

    I only got to catch a few minutes but I saw Ravi Shankar (sp),
    with the Situar (sp), who was the group sitting and listening
    to him play, it didn't look the Beatles, who was the dude in the
    white suit asking the questions? I thought it was Keith Moon.f

>    with the Situar (sp), who was the group sitting and listening
>    to him play, it didn't look the Beatles, who was the dude in the
>    white suit asking the questions? I thought it was Keith Moon.f

Not sure about what group that was, maybe just a random assortment of 
American and Brit pop stars :-).  I think the white suit was just a reporter?

  I thought "episodes" 7 and 8 were well-done (not that anyone asked...).

  7 was rock deriving from Velvet Underground, Doors, and Iggy Pop (leading
  through David Bowie, Alice Cooper, etc., setting the stage for arena &
  alternative genres about to be covered, I'm sure).  This is a set of
  genres I personally choose not to embrace -- the narcissism gets to me.
  But I own and like albums by all of 'em (esp. Velvet/Doors/Iggy), &
  enjoyed the hour.

  8 was the funk one, from JB through Sly to George Clinton & P/Funk, then
  derivatives (maturing of Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder, Gamble & Huff,
  EWF's light funk, disco, etc.).  Which sets the stage for hip-hop and
  crossovers like Prince, probably about to be covered in the last pair of
  episodes.
  
  My only gripe -- they needed a killer cut to "sell" P/Funk, really show
  their humor, friendliness, openness to all music and everyone (Garcia like
  qualities all).  I don't think they quite nailed it.  P & Funk were always
  great guitar bands (Hendrix disciples, but w/ their own stamp).  Some of
  those 10 to 20 minutes guitar jams had to be Dead infleunced...  Oh well.
    - Jay

    Do any of these episodes cover the "Progressive" rock genre of the
    early 70's, mostly of the english ilk, like Genesis, Yes, ELP, Floyd,
    Gentle Giant, King Crimson etc???   probably not, for some reason, this
    genre seems to be overlooked...well, IMO...
    
    but then again, are any of these acts in the R&R Hall of Fame?  Jethro
    Tull maybe?   'tis a shame for all these outstanding musicians to be so
    ignored
    
    Wes_undying_fan_of_early_70's_English_progressive_rock

Episode 7 highlghts:

Newspaper review of Andy Worhol's Exploding Plastic Inevitable, with the
Velvet Underground: "Three ring psychosis".

Mo Tucker drumming her hands in the "Waiting for My Man" beat - "the whole
band did the beat, like a train".

a dour-looking (do you expect him to look any other way? :-) Lou Reed, on
working with David Bowie: "He's great, but when he gets drunk he thinks he's
Ziggy".

Someone on the genesis of Bowie into Ziggy Stardust: "Once he got that haircut,
that was IT".

Bowie, telling the story of the Thin White Duke tour, first time out on
the cherrypicker 40' over the audience - the cherrypicker gets stuck and he's
out there for like 3-4 songs.  "How do I get down?  Hmmm well I could dive 
the audience, but Ziggy's already done that".

Tony Visconti on the three mikes they used on Bowie's vocal on "Heroes" -
then the song cues up and you can really hear the effect!

          Josh

    The guy in the white suit asking questions of Ravi looked like the lead
    singer of the Yardbirds; Keith <something>
    
    The series does seem to slight the progressive bands.  Only two
    mentions I can think of.  Pink Floyd got some coverage as the British
    side of the psychedelic era segment.  I guess it's really stretching it
    to call Pink Floyd "progressive", but they were sorta lumped into that
    movement at the time.  The other mention was last night when they got
    into "stadium" rock.  The mention?  An ariel shot of three tractor
    trailers, one with "Emerson" painted on top, one with "Lake" and one
    with "Palmer".
    
    /rick
    

As I understand it, a lot of the people they wanted to cover, they were
unable to do because of access to the material.  In some of the latter
segments, I guess tonight, they will cover U2, but only got permission
at the last moment after long negotiations.  A friend of mine was 
wondering "Where's the Who, the Kink's, etc" and I'm just guessing that
they ran into some problems there.

PeterT

    Keith Relf was the lead singer for the Yardbirds...electrocuted on
    stage I believe...

    what a way to go! (Relf)

    Loved Alice Cooper's story about the chicken.  

  Next year's crop of R&R hall of fame inductees will include those who began
  recording in 1971 (as in, 1996 minus 25 years minimum passage of time).
  
  So you might begin to see some of those "progressive" groups in there.
  Or not.  (Tull's first 3 albums, my favorites, would've made 'em eligible
  a couple of years ago.)
  
  The makers of the series obviously decided not to focus on the 2nd British
  wave, including The Who, The Kinks, etc.  At least Clapton got attention
  because of the blues connection...  Wasn't much about Buddy Holly either,
  was there?  They made such a big deal about Brian Wilson ditching the
  Capitol-assigned engineer or producer and assering creative control --
  Buddy Holly controlled more aspects of the fruit of his labors than most...
  
  Anyway - Obviously they couldn't cover everyone.  Tried to cover a little
  too much as it was.   - Jay

> (Tull's first 3 albums, my favorites

Yes, especially Stand Up.  Excellent.

>Wasn't much about Buddy Holly either,
  was there?  They made such a big deal about Brian Wilson ditching the
  Capitol-assigned engineer or producer and assering creative control --
  Buddy Holly controlled more aspects of the fruit of his labors than most...

In my opinion, there's never enough said about Buddy Holly in any of these
documentaries.  "Rock and Roll's been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly
died."  - American Grafiti, set in 1962.  That was a fact until the Beatles
hit the charts.

Brian Wilson makes me ill.  He never says anything good about other musicians,
and he appears to have had no influences.  He just seems like a bitter old
resentful has been.  Again, that's my opinion.  

    ya know, I wonder what Brian Wilson's problem is too... he has admitted
    that The Beatles' Rubber Soul influenced him to write the Pet Sounds
    album, which is a Fantastic album...that in turn influenced McCartney
    to write Sgt. Peppers, which blew Wilson (along with everybody else)
    AWAY...so now he's got this attitude...dunno why, he wrote some great
    songs way back when, and as an amateur songwriter, ya gotta be
    influenced by SOMEone's writing...

    didn't Wilson go thru a mental problem stage? Seems I rememebr things
    like him having a truck laod of sand dumped in his living room cause he
    didn't want to go out to go to the beach, so he had the beach brought
    to him...
    
    rfb
    
    

>   didn't Wilson go thru a mental problem stage? Seems I rememebr things
>   like him having a truck laod of sand dumped in his living room cause he
>   didn't want to go out to go to the beach, so he had the beach brought
>   to him...
 
Yeah, I think it was depression and drug abuse - "In My Room" was where he
lived for years...  I saw him when he first came back out of his room and
went on tour in 1977.  He looked and sounded like sh&t.  It was still
amazing, though, how good their vocals could sound.

Didn't know he was also a putz.

tim

    on top of the mental problems, Brian was supposedly obsessed with what
    he saw as competition between him and the Beatles.  A lot had to do
    with the image of the Beatles as "serious" musicians as opposed to the
    lightweight beach-bubble gum image his band was saddled with, and which
    he was trying to change.  The next record after Pet Sounds, "Smile",
    was supposed to be the groundbreaking work that "Sgt Pepper" eventually was.
    It was a concept album and made revolutionary use of the studio, like
    Pepper, and would've been released 6 months before Pepper.  Had it been
    released then, it could have dramatically changed the course of the
    group and perhaps (as some like to think) rock history itself.  But it
    got tied up in domestic squabbles within the group and never saw the
    light of day.  The release of Pepper and it's subsequent exaltation
    in the music world was supposedly seen by Brian as a terrible defeat
    and loss of a prize he felt should have been his.
    
    /rick

    so, was SMILE ever released??
    
    rfb

    
    Good series - highlights for me were the first episode (Bo Diddley
    on Ed Sullivan) and the Dylan/Beatles and Altamont episodes...
    
    Tim G.  

    Brian Wilson played on one of the late-night talk shows last night 
    (David Letterman?)...one of his daughters (not Chynna (sp?) or Carny, 
    the other one) was a backup vocalist.
    
    I was half asleep, the song was 'ok', but nothing memorable.
    
        

    re .26
    
    No, Smile was never released.  Some of the tracks have surfaced here
    and there; a couple on "Surf's Up" and on "Smiley Smile", although I
    believe even these aren't in their original form.
    

  Most of a disc of the Beach Boys 5-CD box is devoted to pieces of "Smile".
  (Some pieces were irretrievably lost of course, but a lot of what remains
  is there.)
  
  The annotators recommend you Randomize the disc to get an idea of what
  "Smile" might've been like...   - Jay

    anyone catch the special on Buddy Holly on TNN last night..
    not that I am a faithful TNN viewer but my mom and i caught the
    beginning as we were looking at her taxes
    
    sounded pretty cool

    Speaking of TV, the Playboy Channel will be airing (on a "special
    edition" of Hot Rocks) the Dead's appearance on Playboy After
    Hours.  sometime in February, I haven't seen a specific date yet
    but I'm watching for it.  

    In other good news, I'm a Nielsen family starting Thursday!
    

    wow. I would like a copy of the Playboy after Dark thing, if someone
    could accomidate...
    
    
    rfb_playboy blocked out

Me too.  Reading Scully's account of what happened, it's one of the
funniest Dead stories I've ever heard.  If I get the chance, I'll post it
here...

tim

>    In other good news, I'm a Nielsen family starting Thursday!
    

Gee, do you take requests?!  (Watch Babylon 5... watch Babylon 5 ;-)
Of course you may not like science fiction, and I don't know if you're
in the general Massachusetts area, but while many places have good
ratings for this show, ch 38 continuely complains about low ratings
for the show.  Lots of people write to the station, but Neilsen ratings
really grab their attention.  And Walter Koenig (Star Trek's Chekov)
is reprising his role as Bester, the Psi-Cop (a very different and 
dark role for him as compared to his Ensign Chekov stuff) this week.

Not to unduly influence you or anything  ;-)  And of course, only 
mark it down if you actually watch it.  Hmmmm, how do they take account
of taping things to watch later??

PeterT

ps:  And how do you get selected for this stuff?  Is it random?

    Actually, I do.. for a price!  ;-)  1 dead tape per show reported ;-)

    I've been meaning to watch B5, anyway.  This is a good excuse.
    When's it on?  (Yeah, I'm in Massachusetts, LKG actually.)

    I asked the lady if they had a category for channel surfing (no)
    and she said it was a very male-type question (how about that Tim!).

    Tom

    I wonder how many actual tv's I represent?

    hmmm... POWER  cackle cackle

    
    >>Me too.  Reading Scully's account of what happened, it's one of the
    >>funniest Dead stories I've ever heard.  If I get the chance, I'll
    >>post it here...
    
    My thoughts exactly, as soon as I read that account I wanted to see
    that show!!
    
    Hogan

    Tom, watch some Bruins games on TV38 to boost their ratings...I don't
    think you've graduated to NESN yet, right?!?!?!
    
    yer buddy Wes

I thought Nielsen families were supposed to be secret...

    man, I would not admit to being related to Leslie Nielson....those
    stupid cop movies and all................%^)
    
    
    rfb

Tom,  Babylon 5 is on at the extremely convient time of saturday night/sunday
morning 2AM, which is a repeat of the first showing of Sunday 10:30 PM on
ch 38 (a somewhat less inconvient time ;-).  Possibly moved around for sports
depending on Bruin's and Celtics schedule.  I can't remember if there is
a conflict this coming Sunday (I think there were supposed to be one
or two in February.)  Send me email for my tape list ;-)

PeterT

    Cool, well all I have to do now is figure out when the Playboy show 
    is to be broadcast.  So far they have refused to divulge the date.
    Evidently they want me to tune in nonstop to their cheesy softcore
    porn and report that to the Nielsens too.  Of course, I don't really
    have the Playboy channel.  It's really a friend of mine who has it.
    Yeah, that's the ticket.

    Just say no to cheesy softcore porn!!!

The "Playboy After Dark" clip got aired Friday night.  I got
it on tape.

Beautiful People stroll around the living room.  Hef is in his
evening wear standing with Barbi Benton and a rather bored looking
Michael Caine.  Jerry Garcia is across the bar.  His eye hosts the
usual Garcia twinkle.  I was amused enough by the conversation to
transcribe it here.

Hef:	Jerry, the GD has been a part of the San Francisco scene
	for about 4 or 5 years.

Jer:	Right.

Hef:	Is the hippie scene changing now? I understand that

Jer:	Yeah, well we're all _big_ people now.

Hef:	Certainly big in terms of publicity, etc, but I understand the
	Haight/Ashbury scene has changed a good deal.

Jer:	Well haight/ashbury is just a place, you know, it's just a
	street, it's not really the thing, it never was the thing 
	that was going on.

Hef:	That was just the thing that got the publicity.

Jer:	Right, right, that's the thing that people could talk about 
	because it's, like, easy to remember.

Hef:	Well they held like, what, about a summer ago, they held a funeral
	for hippiedom.

Jer:	Right, and that was, like, that was all of us saying we're not going to
	tell anybody anymore what we're doing.

Hef:	Start enjoying it again, eh?

Jer:	Right, right.

Hef:	Well I notice that with your own group you've got kind of a stereo
	effect going on here with drums, you've got two complete sets of
	drums and two drummers, obviously for a purpose.

Jer:	Right, mutual annihilation.

Hef:	I see, in other words the guys kind of compete with one other?

Jer:	Well, they more chase each other around.  It's like the serpent that
	eats its own tail and it goes around and around like that [motions
	with his hands]; if you	can stand between them they make big figure
	eights on their sides in your head.

Hef:	I don't think I'm going to stand between them, I think I'll stay back a
	little ways. [Barbi laughs nervously]

Jer:	Take your pick.

Hef:	But I notice the guys are near their instruments here, and the kids have
	kind of settled down, I wonder if we could get you to do a number for
	us?

Jer:	Absolutely not.

Jerry takes the stage with an acoustic guitar, somebody else (who would
that be? I don't recognize all the guys yet) on harpsichord, and says

Jer:	Mountains of the Moon, that's the big one up there

Nice mellow performance.

After that song, then everybody's on stage and they launch into a killer
rendition of "St. Stephen".  The video is marred by cheesy (there's that
word again) pseudo-psychedelic "effects" and WORST OF ALL right in the
middle of a blazing jam the clip ends!  The whole thing clocks in at 10
minutes.  Evidently you can't go more than 10 minutes without showing
a naked breast on Playboy.  They cut out of the most intense part of
the song in order to go to a new video featuring a topless guitarist.
It's unbelievable, I guess when the jam starts some people consider
that the song is finished.  Too bad.  They were smokin'!  I wonder if
some collector's got his hands on an unedited cut of this.

Tom

	thanks, tom.
	i love hearing his voice in my head as i read his words :-)
	too bad it got cut like that.
	how were the breasts, tho?  ;-)  ;-)
	
	siriusly, i'd like to see this, but i'd love to see the uncut
	version.

Thanks for transcribing that...  I got the audio part
of that show a long time ago, and always liked Jerry's
description of the drummers ;-)  I'd love to see it
(and tape it ;-).

That kbd/harpsicord player was TC.

The whole scene is further described in Living with the Dead.

/Ken

	that was Tom Constanten (TC) playing the harpsichord, I imagine.
	He was only with the band for a year or so.

	too funny, Tom, your remarks about "how could they cut the jam
	just to show a topless guitarist" ;-)...I mean, not many guys
	would say such a thing...but here in GRATEFUL, well, we understand...
	completely!

	Debess

    I can bring it to Tim's taping party for everyone to enjoy.  
    audio / video dubs are available on request.  
    
    Tom

Great.  I've got a stereo VCR that we could dub from if someone has another.

"Mutual annihilation".  What a great line!

According to the Scully book, somewhere about halfway into the show, the acid
kicks in on everyone but Hef, who managed to avoid the coffee urn that Owsley
had dosed because they wouldn't let him do the sound, and the whole scene went
nuts.  I was hoping some of it might have been preserved on tape.  According to
Scully, suddenly one of the bunnies decides to strip, live on camera, and the
boom cameraman can't focus on anything but her, from above, for the rest of the
show...the book is hilarious...then again, maybe that IS what you have on
tape..;-)

Thanks, Tom.

tim

    parties like that were the good ole days.......
    
    
    rfb_remembers times like those in Arizona as a "happy freak"

    After reading your reply Tim I'm feeling worse than ever
    that they cut it off!  Man those guys at Playboy would have
    a major ratings grabber if they'd air the whole thing.  You
    can bet they have the tape.

    I can bring my VCR, too.  No big deal.  As I say, too
    bad it's only 10 minutes from start to finish.  But it's
    better than nothing.  btw  can tell me the date 
    it was recorded?

    Tom

    Courtesy of Debess, here's the reputed dates for the airing on 
    Playboy of the *complete* Playboy After Dark appearance.  [And
    if they air the stripping bunny, they'll even meet their
    naked breast quota!  ;-)  ]

    If you have cable, you may be able to order Playboy for a
    short period (like a day or a week), if you want this show.
    Also, I'll make an effort to catch this as many times as
    possible so I can provide folks who want it with original
    rather than dubbed copies.

    
>HOT ROCKS: GRATEFUL DEAD (#96-02)
>February 9, 12, 19, 22, 24, 28
>60 min
>Rare, exclusive footage of The Grateful Dead, featuring the
>songs "Mountains of the Moon," and "St. Stephen," as well
>as a special valentine to the band, JUS LUV featuring their
>songs, "Sex All Day" and "Trance Dance."
>
>Feb 9  - 8 am, Noon, 4 pm, Midnight, 4 am
>
>Feb 12 - 1 pm, 9 pm, 5 am
>
>Feb 19 - Noon, 8 pm, 4 am
>
>Feb 22 - 1 pm, 9 pm, 5 am
>
>Feb 24 - Noon, 8 pm, 4 am
>
>Feb 28 - 9 am, 5 pm, 1 am

    re -.1

    I don't think the whole show is going to be aired.  
    It says "60 min" but last night, again, the dead clip
    was just 10 minutes out of the whole 60 minute show.