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68.1 | | VMPIRE::CLARK | the Gong Show | Tue Dec 22 1992 16:10 | 3 |
| This is the 68th topic in GRATEFUL.
- DC (6'3")
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68.2 | A good example :-) | CSCMA::M_PECKAR | Pray for snow | Tue Dec 22 1992 16:11 | 93 |
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Here is an index to the file: SPICE::USER1:[PECKAR]DEAD.1992
...which I aint postin' cuz its 3200 lines of useless, yet
none-the-less-fun-to-stare-aimlessly-at-when-your-stoned blither.
Enjoy... :-)
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1992 YEAR IN REVIEW
by
Eric J. Simon & Randy Jackson
Hello everyone and welcome to the 1992 edition of useless
trivia!! The following information was gathered from set
lists posted to this newsgroup as well as from listening
to tapes from 1992. Every set list was cross-referenced to
at least two different sources, and we believe them to be
correct.
Please e-mail corrections to the following address, DO NOT
post them. We will post a set of corrections at some point
in the future. The address is:
[email protected] and/or
[email protected]
This year's addition contains several new features, including
a summary of every year from 1974-1992, and a summary of the
songs played in the 1990's so far. If you have an idea for
additional Useless DeadStats, please email your idea to ejs.
This information may be freely copied BUT please do not
use it for personal gain.
Enjoy!!
Eric J. Simon (Harvard University)
Randy Jackson (Bellcore, NJ)
(c) 1992, Eric J. Simon and Randy Jackson
The contents herein may be reproduced and distributed
in any non-commercial manner provided that the contents
are reproduced in their entirety including this copyright statement.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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Feature Line Number
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Introduction 1
Contents 49
Tour Schedule 79
Set Lists 141
Song Frequencies 605
Song list in alphabetical order 757
Set Length Information 916
Longest/Shortest Sets and Shows 992
Monthly/Day of Week/States breakdown 1003
Song Attributes 1071
Openers/Closers/Into-/Out of Drums/Encores 1174
Interesting notes 1283
Show by Show Analysis 1352
Every time played 1744
Yearly Comparision: 1974-1992 2435
1990's so far 2779
The End 3184
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68.3 | | VMPIRE::CLARK | the Gong Show | Tue Dec 22 1992 16:12 | 3 |
| Y'mean, they gotta be Dead-related?!? ;^)
- DC
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68.4 | | CSCMA::M_PECKAR | Pray for snow | Tue Dec 22 1992 16:28 | 13 |
|
>Y'mean, they gotta be Dead-related?!? ;^)
Yes, dammit, this whole string is rather non-digressitory. I've modified the
note title to make it a bit more clear.
And while I hear, I'll prove my non-digressitory intent by posting another
useless statistic...
Even though the dead took five months off this year, they still were among
the top five grossing acts last year!
Fog
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68.5 | get rich :== buy Maxell stock | CORA::65447::BELKIN | the slow one now will later be fast | Tue Dec 22 1992 16:44 | 14 |
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So, like, how _gross_ were they?
I'd like to know how many miles of tape get taped at an average Dead show.
Hmm... lets see.. figure anywhere from 500 to 1000 cassette decks?
3 hours X 1 7/8 Inches per second X 3600 seconds/hour X 500 =
10,125,000 inches = 159.8 MILES!!!
Y O W !!!
And that not including the DAT decks!
Josh
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68.6 | I'd say more like 50-100... | SUBPAC::MAGGARD | I am the Rhombus! | Tue Dec 22 1992 16:57 | 8 |
| > figure anywhere from 500 to 1000 cassette decks?
uhh, that seems like an awful lot of tapers... but then again, we _are_ an
awful lot...
har har har
- jeff
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68.7 | | SCOONR::GLADU | | Wed Dec 23 1992 09:09 | 11 |
| Well the taping section is usually about 200 seats or limited to
the first 200 tapers. There is rarely only one deck running per
mic stand. Many get rejected for mail order. Not all tapers are
at every show, nor are all of the tape decks. So there *are* a
lot of us out there. I'd say easily over 1000 tapers around between
both coasts, Europe and all points in between. Maybe 300-500 tape
decks spinning at any given show. Not to mention decks spinning in
hotel rooms after the show, in cars, trains & planes between runs,
tape decks touring with out their owners, etc. :-)
ger
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68.8 | deadhead predictor statistics | JURAN::DCLARK | cherish well your thoughts | Wed Dec 23 1992 10:01 | 7 |
| how many people have taken the Myers-Briggs personality test?
What did you score? the 3 Deadheads I know the scores for
in HLO (including myself) all scored INTP, which occurs in
less than 1% of the population as a whole. Interesting
stuff.
- Dave
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68.9 | | ISLNDS::CONNORS_M | | Wed Dec 23 1992 10:15 | 5 |
|
I took the Myers-Briggs, I can't remember my score...
I'll have to look that up....
MJ
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68.10 | I took in school, not in DEC | CSCMA::M_PECKAR | Pray for snow | Wed Dec 23 1992 10:24 | 12 |
| I took it, but I forget what I scored...
Unfortunately, all-too often it is an abused and misused tool of management
for pigeon-holeing their employees. Its also crude, and doesn't take into
acount some very important inluencing factors (like dyslexia, which may
suppress a high aptitude for intuition, for example), and I would tend to
think there are way more than 16 personality types out there.
Still, its a self discovery, and that itself makes it worthwhile. Just don't
fall into the trap of pigeon holing yourself. Use it to open more doors to
self knowledge, not to close them!
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68.11 | cool out, I know how to deal with data | JURAN::DCLARK | cherish well your thoughts | Wed Dec 23 1992 10:45 | 6 |
| I'm not mis-using any information; I just thought it was
interesting. I wonder how many deadheads are 'perceptive'
(stream-of-conciousness) vd 'judgemental' (goal-oriented).
Remember, I'm a professional statistician. Mis-using
information is my job, I know how and when to do it :-)
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68.12 | | STUDIO::IDE | Can't this wait 'til I'm old? | Wed Dec 23 1992 11:09 | 7 |
| I've never heard of it, is it available on-line?
I just remember the counselors showing me funny splotches (most of
which looked like puppies being tortured by cats wearing housedresses)
and squiggly lines, then going in the corner in shaking their heads.
Jamie
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68.13 | | ROULET::DWEST | if wishes were horses... | Wed Dec 23 1992 11:45 | 11 |
| yeah, i've taken the MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) several
times... the results of my personality test were:
yes, i still have one... :^)
being reassured of that fact, they went on to say i was ENFP...
supposed representing about 2% of the general population... explains
a lot of how i get along with my group which is predominantly
thinking over feeling and judging over percieving...
da ve
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68.14 | what's N again??? | ROADKL::INGALLS | castles made of sand | Wed Dec 23 1992 12:35 | 11 |
|
I think (feel) that I scored as type INFP
Intravert (vs Extravert)
??
Feeling (vs think)
Perceive (vs judge)
I remeber that I was borderline on everything except very strongly P
Glenn
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68.15 | | ISLNDS::CONNORS_M | | Wed Dec 23 1992 13:01 | 4 |
|
I think N is intuition....
MJ
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68.16 | | ROULET::DWEST | if wishes were horses... | Wed Dec 23 1992 13:08 | 1 |
| N is intuition... S is sensing...
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68.17 | How about NUTS? | LASSIE::TRAMP::GRADY | Short arms, and deep pockets... | Wed Dec 23 1992 13:20 | 5 |
| So, what's the Myers-Briggs code for Neurotic?
;-)
tim
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68.18 | btw... | LASSIE::TRAMP::GRADY | Short arms, and deep pockets... | Wed Dec 23 1992 13:23 | 8 |
| Hey, is this the test they used to give you for the old Managing
Interpersonal Relations class that everyone used to be sent to?
(Personality Pigeonholes 101)
I think I got thrown out for copying someone elses personality ;-).
I guess was bad influence. ;-)
tim
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68.19 | | LJOHUB::RILEY | Namer of chaotic individuals everywhere! | Wed Dec 23 1992 14:27 | 26 |
|
Yup,
I've taken the Myers-Briggs twice (two-three years apart). Both times:
ENTP
E Extravert
N Intuition
T Thought
P Pyschedelic , uh, not into planning, kind of free form vs.
structured
Funny it's mentioned in here, one of our engineers (I get along with
exceedingly well) mentioned it yesterday, and he was an INTP.
Yes Fog, it can be used negatively, but it was tremendously helpful in
my own self-awareness process to find out what my inclinations are by
nature, so as to be able to understand better why and how I react to
certain situations the way I do. And, what my work environment should
be like in order to be successful and happy, as well as who I work well
with.
Tree_Myers-Briggs advocate
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68.20 | INFP | AWECIM::RUSSO | claimin! | Wed Dec 23 1992 14:51 | 1 |
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68.21 | @#%hole %^) | CXDOCS::BARNES | | Wed Dec 23 1992 15:09 | 1 |
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68.22 | | LASSIE::TRAMP::GRADY | Short arms, and deep pockets... | Wed Dec 23 1992 15:56 | 5 |
| Hey rfb,
Was that you I was copying from?
tim
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68.23 | | EZRIDR::SIEGEL | The revolution wil not be televised | Mon Dec 28 1992 13:51 | 4 |
| I think I took it in high school, but I couldn't possibly remember what my
"score" was. If there is an on-line version, I'd love to check it out.
adam
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68.24 | Maybe just moody? | SALEM::MARKIEWICZ | enfant de l'Univers | Tue Jan 05 1993 16:32 | 4 |
| I took the Myers Briggs twice, 3 years apart. The first time I was
INTJ and the second time I was INFP. do you suppose that means I
have a split personality. I guess both my personalities are
introverted and intuitive.
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68.25 | unless, of course, this statistic counts... | ROCK::CAMPR::FROMM | There is no way to peace;peace is the way. | Tue Jan 05 1993 16:50 | 3 |
| so far, only 16% of the replies in this note have anything to do with the dead
/r
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68.27 | red alert, danger, danger | SMURF::PETERT | | Fri Jan 22 1993 15:07 | 6 |
| Ack! Fog, you didn't really mean to enter that whole thing did you??
The part about top 10 trades is interesting, but then it looks like
the rest of the digest got appended to it.
PeterT
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68.28 | sorry, re-entered... | CSCMA::M_PECKAR | under eternity | Fri Jan 22 1993 15:18 | 58 |
| ------------------------------
From: Ken Kaufman <[email protected]>
Subject: Just For Fun: A Top-Ten Trading List
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:21:29 GMT
Have you tape traders ever noticed that some of your tapes are *always* in
demand, while nobody seems to be interested in other tapes, some of which
may be better in all regards?
Obviously, several factors go into this. For one, there is the
reputation of the show or period. I, for example, would rather trade for
x/x/77 than x/x/76, all other things being equal. Similarly, more people
know about 7/13/84 than 9/11/83, though in my opinion, the latter is a
far superior show.
Another issue is rarity. People aren't as likely to ask you for a tape
that was treed just a few months ago. And then there are shows like 3/1/69
that most everyone already has a copy of - if anyone needs to get it,
they are as likely to ask someone else for it as they are to ask you.
Finally, there is relative sound quality. If a B+ copy of a show is generally
available and you have an A+ copy, everyone's going to strike at the
opportunity to get a dub of yours. Conversely, if there are A's all around
and you have a B tape, virtually no one will be trading with you for it.
Given all this, I have tried to compile an ad hoc list of my 10 most
demanded tapes of 1992 (not counting pre-arranged trades via trees).
This should not be construed as a 10 favorites list, although there would
be substantial intersection between the two.
By the way, it does change from year to year; 7/13/89 for example has
fallen out of favor with my trading partners. This is all unofficial -
I didn't keep count or anything. It should be noted that all of these
tapes came to me from Netheads past and present. And many more of you
have received these one or more generations down the road (FB). So
without any further ado:
MY 10 (WELL, ACTUALLY 11) MOST WANTED LIST OF 1992
10 (tie): 10/11/83 MSG -- more than just the return of St. Stephen
10 (tie): 9/16/91 MSG -- one of the best of the 9 show run
9: 4/19/82 II Baltimore -- Hot set, Raven Space
8: 6/ 9/77 Winterland -- THE Help/Slip/Franks
7: 8/21/72 II BCT -- Great GSET, 30 min. Dark Star into El Paso
6: 10/ 9/76 II Oakland -- See setlist to know why
5: 4/18/82 II Hartford -- EARTHQUAKE SPACE!!!!
4: 3/18/77 Winterland -- First Scarlet/Fire, Full Terrapin, NFA JAM!
3: 4/ 6/71 Manhattan Center -- Short but sweet, Oh Boy, Hog 4 U Baby
2: 11/29/66 II Matrix -- Great sound, rare tunes, Cream Puff War!
1: 4/8/71 Boston -- Typical Spring `71 show, I Second That Emotion
Anyone else care to share their most popular lists?
==Ken
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68.30 | curious | CORA::65447::BELKIN | the slow one now will later be fast | Fri Mar 26 1993 16:05 | 4 |
|
Where did you get this from? Did you make it up yerself?
Josh
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68.31 | | SPICE::FIELDS | and we'd go Running On Faith | Mon Mar 29 1993 08:41 | 7 |
| Yup I made it up....:') well not rilly, the band has played these tunes
in the month of March so far....right now I need the 1st two lists from
Albany to get it up to date :')
Chris_writer_of_useless_stats!
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68.32 | :-) :^) 8^) | SALEM::MARTIN_S | Goldfish don't bounce... | Mon Mar 29 1993 09:11 | 7 |
|
I'd also like to see the Albany(so far) setlists! I thought they'd
be posted already.
I scored tix for tonight! PSYCHED!
Steve-O!_so_happy_to_be_going_he_don't_care_WHAT_they_play!
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68.33 | Ok, up-to-date for the month of March (03-09 <-> 03-28) | SLOHAN::FIELDS | and we'd go Running On Faith | Mon Mar 29 1993 09:52 | 123 |
| song title set 1 set 2 ec: times played
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Althea xx 2
Around and Around xx 2
All Over Now x 1
All along the Watchtower xx 2
Attics of My Life x 1
Bertha x 1
Big River Blues x 1
Baba O'Rilly x 1
Broken Arrow xxx x 4
Brown Eyed Women xx 2
Black Throated Wind x 1
Bird Song x 1
Baby Blue x 1
Black Peter x 1
Beat it on down the linex 1
Box of Rain x 1
Comes a Time x 1
China Cat Sunflower xxx 3
Corrina xxxxx 5
China Doll x 1
Cold Rain & Snow x 1
Casey Jones x 1
Cassidy xx 2
Crazy Fingers xx 2
Candyman x 1
Deal x 1
Days Between,The xxxx 4
Don't Ease Me In x 1
Desolation Road x 1
DARK STAR (1st verse) > x 1
Eternity xxxxxx 6
Eyes of the World xxx 3
Estimated Prophet xx 2
Feel Like A Stranger xx 2
Franklin's Tower xx 2
Flibberty Jib* x 1
Fire On The Mountain xx 2
Friend Of The Devil xx 2
Good Lovin' x 1
Goin down the road x 1
Greatest Story Ever Told x 1
Here Comes Sunshine x x 2
High Times x 1
He's Gone xx 2
Hell in a Bucket xx 2
Help on the Way xx 2
I Know You Rider xxx 3
Iko Iko xx 2
I Need A Miracle xx 2
I fought the Law (and the law won) xxxx 4
It must have been the Rose x 1
Jams before D/S x 1
Jack Straw xx 2
Jams coming out of D/S x 1
Knockin' On Heaven's Door xx 2
Loose Lucy xxx 3
Liberty xxxx xx 6
Last Time,The xxx 3
Let It Grow xx 2
Long Way to Go Home xxxxxx 6
Lazy River Road xxxx xx 6
Little Red Rooster xx 2
Lovelight xx 2
Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds!!! xx 2
Looks Like Rain x 1
Man Smart/Woman are Smarter xx 2
Me & My Uncle xx 2
Mexicali Blues xx 2
Masterpiece xxx 3
Music Never Stopped,The xx 2
Morning Dew xx 2
Mississippi 1/2 Step xx 2
Maggies Farm x 1
Not Fade Away xxx 3
New New Minglewood Blues xx 2
Other one,The xxxx 4
One More Satuday Nite xx 2
Playing In The Band xxx 3
Playin' Jam x 1
Peggy-O xx 2
Promised Land xx 2
Picasso Moon x x 2
Queen Jane xxx 3
Row Jimmy Row xx 2
Ramble On Rose xx 2
Stuck,Memphis Blues x 1
Ship Of Fools xx 2
Sugar Magnolia xxx 3
Stagger Lee xx 2
Same Thing,The xx 2
Standing On The Moon x 1
Slipknot xx 2
So Many Roads xxxxx 5
Spoonful x 1
Spanish Jam x 1
Sampson & Delilah xxx 3
Stella Blue xx 2
Scarlet Begonias xx 2
Shakedown x 1
Sugaree x 1
Smokestack Lightning x 1
Standing On The Moon x 1
Saint Of Circumstance x 1
Truckin' xxx 3
Tom Thumb Blues xx 2
Touch of Grey x x 2
Terrapin xxx 3
Throwin Stones xxx 3
Tennessee Jed xx 2
Tomorrow Never Know x 1
Uncle John's Band x 1
U.S. Blues x 1
Victim Or The Crime x 1
Wang Dang Doodle xxx 3
Wheel,The xxx 3
Watchtower x 1
Wave to the Wind xxxxx 5
Walkin' Blues xxx 3
Wharf Rat x 1
West LA Fadeaway x 1
Weight,The x 1
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68.34 | | CSCMA::M_PECKAR | Be kind: unwind | Thu May 20 1993 15:59 | 33 |
|
Ever wonder how rich Sir William-O was? I did, so I asked a friend in
England, but she couldn't tell me what Peggy-o's mother did think...
The UK went decimal in June 1970. Before that date, a pound was divided
into 20 shillings, and a shilling was divided into 12 pennies or pence.
A guinea was an informal unit of currency, worth (I think) 1 pound and
1 shilling. (I think that hundreds of years ago there were guinea coins,
which could "clink"!). The two shilling piece was known as a florin
and a two shilling and sixpence piece was known as "half a crown". Spot
the echoes of obsolete currency units still used in western and central
Europe - for example Dutch guilders are also called florins, and the
Scandinavian countries use crowns ("kroner".)
After decimalisation, a pound was worth 100 new pence, now called "pee"
by most people. We have 5p pieces (like old shillings), 10p pieces (like
old florins) and 50p pieces (like old 10 bob notes). There I go - a bob
was a colloquial name for a shilling, and is dying out now. A quid is
a colloquial name for a pound - but *never put an s on the end* unless
you want to crack up a native audience. So, one might say "lend us 10
quid" but never "I need a few more quids to pay this bill". SImilary, the
plural of bob is bob.
We have banknotes for 5 pounds, 10 pounds and higher denominations, but
pounds are mostly coins. By mute civil disobedience, Scotland refused to
accept pound coins, so pound notes are still in circulation there. They
are accepted in England, but are not reccirculated by English banks.
In the horse world, racing bloodstock actions are still conducted
in guineas.
Confused? If not, I must have missed something out :-)
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68.35 | | SUBPAC::MAGGARD | Roll like a cantelope, outta yer bowl! | Thu May 20 1993 16:24 | 9 |
|
Speaking of limey_dollars...
Ya also have to be careful of the 'old' vs. 'new' notes. I got slipped
an old 5 squid ;-) note as change ... I had to go to a bank to exchange
it.
- jeff
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68.36 | did he have oodles of gillies? | VOYAGR::SAMPSON | Driven by the wind | Fri May 21 1993 09:21 | 3 |
| Yes you did leave something out.
How rich was sir William-O??
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68.37 | I love foriegn currencys | CSLALL::BRIDGES | Anods asGood asA wink toA blindBat | Fri May 21 1993 11:19 | 49 |
| re: <<< Note 68.34 by CSCMA::M_PECKAR "Be kind: unwind" >>>
>> The UK went decimal in June 1970. Before that date, a pound was divided
>> into 20 shillings, and a shilling was divided into 12 pennies or pence.
>> A guinea was an informal unit of currency, worth (I think) 1 pound and
>> 1 shilling. (I think that hundreds of years ago there were guinea coins,
>> which could "clink"!). The two shilling piece was known as a florin
>> and a two shilling and sixpence piece was known as "half a crown". Spot
>> the echoes of obsolete currency units still used in western and central
>> Europe - for example Dutch guilders are also called florins, and the
>> Scandinavian countries use crowns ("kroner".)
I actually have a least one of each of these coins. The old piece I have
is a "pennie" from 1856 I believe could off +/- a few years.
>> After decimalisation, a pound was worth 100 new pence, now called "pee"
>> by most people. We have 5p pieces (like old shillings), 10p pieces (like
>> old florins) and 50p pieces (like old 10 bob notes). There I go - a bob
>> was a colloquial name for a shilling, and is dying out now. A quid is
>> a colloquial name for a pound - but *never put an s on the end* unless
>> you want to crack up a native audience. So, one might say "lend us 10
>> quid" but never "I need a few more quids to pay this bill". SImilary, the
>> plural of bob is bob.
>> We have banknotes for 5 pounds, 10 pounds and higher denominations, but
More commonly referred to as a "fiver" and a "tener".
>> pounds are mostly coins. By mute civil disobedience, Scotland refused to
>> accept pound coins, so pound notes are still in circulation there. They
>> are accepted in England, but are not reccirculated by English banks.
When they eliminated the one pound note and changed to one pound coins,
it became a real pain. At least I think it is. Of course i don't have live
with I just visit. It really increases the amount change in ones pocket.
Scotland also has it's plates for notes. I have to dig out what i have a home
to see tha difference really can't remember at the moment. It might just
be colour and pictures. The thing i like about money in GB is that the
paper denominations get large as the value increase's, that way it would
be harder to mistaken give a twenty when all you need to give is a ten.
Shawn
BY the way how rich was Sir William-O
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68.38 | | STAR::HUGHES | Less zooty, more dusted | Fri May 21 1993 11:56 | 24 |
| Yup, a guinea was 21 shillings. It was not uncommon for less than
scrupulous vendors in Oz to adertise the price of something in guineas,
hoping most people would read it as pounds (the cultural equivalent of
pricing something at $9.99 instead of $10, I guess). There was a guinea
coin, originally gold I think.
A 5/- coin was a crown, hence the 2/6 half-crown. We also had 6d (6
pennies), 3d (thruppence), 1d, 1/2d (ha'penny) and 1/4d (farthing)
coins. The penny was huge and the farthing very small, which is where
the term "penny-farthing" for those old bicycles with a huge front
wheel came from.
We had a 10/- note which became a dollar when Australia switched to
decimal currency (14th Feb 1966, boy is that date burned into my
brain). The pound note became a $2 bill.
The term "quid" is somehow derived from latin (quid pro quo?), and if
you can't type �, the abreviation for pound is L. Shilling of course is
S and pennies D.
The abbreviation for this monetary system is LSD - you know it makes
sense.
gary
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68.39 | | CASDOC::ROGERS | Make it so... | Wed Jul 28 1993 20:49 | 3 |
| For an interesting DEChead-related statistic, look at note 4016.0
in TURRIS::EASYNET_CONFERENCES about halfway down and the very end:-).
Is this a list we really want to be on?
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68.40 | Hey, we ain't the most verbose, anyway! | NECSC::LEVY | Scientific progress goes BOINK | Thu Jul 29 1993 09:08 | 0 |
68.41 | And/or the Middle East? | CSLALL::LEBLANC_C | Please don't dominate the rapJACK | Wed Nov 16 1994 13:30 | 2 |
| Anyone got a Phoenix out there in noting land?
House of Blues on sat-er-day?
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68.42 | | CXDOCS::BARNES | | Mon Jan 09 1995 13:34 | 10 |
| so...whilst reading my kids SPIN Mag this weekend I picked up on
some tiny tid-bit o dead trivia that I'm sure NO ONE will guess or
knows.....
who is Hank Harrison's daughter???
Her mother was tight with Ken Keasy
and the Pranksters, although I don't remember her (the mom's) name and
she's not mentioned in any of the books by Hank or in T. Wolfes
Electric Acid Kool-Aid Test, so this isn't a hint......
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68.43 | Nice wholesome American Female Role Model :) | SMURF::HAPGOOD | Java Java HEY! | Mon Jan 09 1995 13:42 | 12 |
| <<< Note 68.42 by CXDOCS::BARNES >>>
> who is Hank Harrison's daughter???
I read/saw/heard this a few months or a year ago and never really believed
it and still don't know if I do....
Who is Courtney Love of HOLE???
:)
bob
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68.44 | Give that man a cigar!! | CXDOCS::BARNES | | Mon Jan 09 1995 14:35 | 13 |
| DAMN yer good!!!
I couldn't quite believe it either...but whos to say
that just because you were raised in a loving caring environment like
Keasy and the Pranksters MUST have provided (NOT!!<<---maybe???) that
you'd turn out loving and caring. Love was apparently sorta abandoned
when a child, I'm sure that didn't help with her growth and
development. Maybe for all the "good" the pranksters et al did for us,
there was some bad??? (we all know this already...there's a fine line
ya gotta watch)
anyway GOOD goin Bob...come on out to COlo and I'll buy ya a beer.
rfb
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68.45 | eh? | TRLIAN::DUGGAN | | Mon Jan 09 1995 14:39 | 9 |
| err...
at the risk of sounding a bit dated...
who is Courtney Love?
for that matter, who is Hank Harrison?
...Michael T. PerplexedHead
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68.46 | Hole | CSLALL::LEBLANC_C | Please don't dominate the rapJACK | Mon Jan 09 1995 14:46 | 2 |
| Courtney Love-lead singer of the teen angst band Hole, widow of Kurt
Cobain..mother of their child Frances Bean...
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68.47 | | CXDOCS::BARNES | | Mon Jan 09 1995 14:44 | 13 |
| hey! what you doin in dis file MikeyT?!!??!! %^)
Courtney Love was Kurt Cobain's (of Nirvana) wife. She is the singer
for a band called HOLE. (wonder where they came up with that name??? %^) )
my kids listen..
Hank Harrison wrote one of the original Dead books, i think there's a
volume II now?? Bob will know...;^)
Her mother ran with the Pranksters and the "magic bus" people as Love
called them. Mom moved to Org. whenthe Pranksters did, then apparently
left Love in the care of the bus while she moved to other countries...
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68.48 | | SMURF::HAPGOOD | Java Java HEY! | Mon Jan 09 1995 16:32 | 11 |
| I just got lucky RFB and happened to read that and it caught my
eye and I've been wondering if true ever since....
Hole - I think they are a Rolling Stones "Critics Pick of the Year" this year...
maybe not top pick (maybe so?) but one of top 3 bands picked by "critics".
Hank Harrison might have managed the Dead as well; somebody ought to know
this but as usual I'm not sure....
bob
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68.49 | hardly obscure for these decheads... | SMURF::PETERT | rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty | Tue Jan 10 1995 10:25 | 10 |
| The Globe had a rock Trivia question a while back that may have been
where Bob saw it, at least its where I did. It was something like:
On what album cover did Hole singer Courtney Love make her first
appearance? The answer was Aoxomoxa. She's one of the kids in
the family shot in the back. Not sure of Courtney's current
affiliation with the Dead, but her dad, Hank Harrison, has been on
the outs with them for a while. At lest that's how I remember it.
PeterT
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68.50 | :) | MAYES::OSTIGUY | | Tue Jan 10 1995 10:53 | 3 |
| Ahuhuh, ahh, huhuh....he said Hole...
Wes_Butthead_fan...aahhhuhuh
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68.51 | | CXDOCS::BARNES | | Tue Jan 10 1995 11:01 | 6 |
| any specifics about why Harrison has been on the "outs" with the dead??
the Axomoxa trivia bit is interesting...haveta look at the CD cover
tonite and see if I can pick Love out....
rfb
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68.52 | Touch of Old | TRLIAN::DUGGAN | | Tue Jan 10 1995 15:18 | 14 |
| re: 47 hey! what you doin in dis file MikeyT?!!??!! %^)
...sometimes I wonder myself.
Notice, however, that I didn't ask "Who were the Merry Pranksters?"
...nope, not this child.
The first time I ever saw the Boyz was at Aspen Meadows, New Mexico,
Summer Solstice, 1967... they were the break band for the times in
between the bus race!
(there was actually going to be a second heat but everything turned
electric and people sorta forgot to run the second race)
...mike_who_is_feeling_somewhat_old_and_grey_todayHead
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68.53 | | CXDOCS::BARNES | | Tue Jan 10 1995 15:23 | 5 |
| re: sometimes I wonder myself.....
feelin low today Mike??? cheer up!
rfb
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68.54 | | TRLIAN::DUGGAN | | Tue Jan 10 1995 15:36 | 14 |
| WAAAAAH! All I wanna do is go home and see my honey (and cats)
and I'm not gonna get to until next month...WAAAAAAHHH!
(On the bright side, I'll be in ABQ for ten days, telecommuting via all
that unused bandwidth from ABO to Merrimack... we have to test this
stuff remotely and you can't get much more remote than that...)
(oh, and I'll get PAID for it too!)
Thanks. I feel better already.
...mike
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68.55 | It could be worse, you could be me! :-) :-) :-) | SUBPAC::MAGGARD | Integrate! | Tue Jan 10 1995 18:17 | 20 |
| > WAAAAAH! All I wanna do is go home and see my honey (and cats)
> and I'm not gonna get to until next month...WAAAAAAHHH!
You're not alone.
Be gald it's only a month.
I'm 5 months into my 10-ish month pre-marriage-separation :-)
- jeff_got_them_3_3_hundred_mile_long_
it_gets_so_sad_I_sing_this_song_
help_me_Lord_and_keep_me_strong_
fiance_in_Callifornee_bluuuuuUUUUUuuuuuues!
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68.56 | it may have been something like this... | QUARRY::petert | rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty | Thu Jan 12 1995 16:45 | 18 |
| I was going to include something about why Harrison and the Dead no longer
see eye to eye, but I wasn't sure how much was confabulation (nice term
for making up memories, "Oh yeah, it happened this way, I remember now")
and how much real. Given that as a caveat, the way I think I've heard
it is that Harrison may be a bit too much into himself. He wrote a
history about the Dead, "The Book of the Dead" which apparently goes into
how Hank did this, and Hank did that, and how Hank influenced the
dead scene, etc, oh yeah, and the Dead were there too. Now, I haven't
read the book, so I can't say how much this is true, or how much it
contributed to the fallings out, but that's kind of what I heard, or
remember having heard (which may well be two different things).
Seem to remember getting this from rec.music.gdead a while back.
Take it as you need it.
PeterT
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68.57 | | CXDOCS::BARNES | | Thu Jan 12 1995 17:27 | 7 |
| Peter T --
I have that book...he's never mentioned as far as I can remember except
as the author. The book is written alot like Wolff wrote parts of
the electric acid koolaid test, weird sentence structure, weird
use of puncuation, etc....just fyi...
rfb
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68.58 | wouldn't be the first time... | SMURF::PETERT | rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty | Thu Jan 12 1995 23:23 | 8 |
| Well, I told you I wasn't really sure. That was the general
impression I got of things, without having read the book myself.
Maybe I'm just mixing up some memories, or it was something else.
Anybody else know anything, or am I just running on rumor and
speculation here.
PeterT
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68.59 | Harrison's other book | BIGQ::DCLARK | The Master Cylinder | Fri Jan 13 1995 13:22 | 4 |
| I have Harrison's other book, called "The Dead", in my office
if anyone wants to read it. Not all that well-written, you can
tell he stole a lot of stuff from other sources, but some good
photos.
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68.60 | I got eyestrain | RICKS::CALCAGNI | The animal trainer and the toad | Mon Jan 16 1995 15:49 | 6 |
| According to a recent interview, Courtney Love was born in 1965;
that would make her around 4 years old at the time of the Aoxomoxoa
photo, right? I scanned the CD jacket for likely candidates, there's
one or two. Where's my vinyl copy!
/rick
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68.61 | Green Marker Man | KAOOA::REILLY | | Mon Jan 16 1995 15:56 | 6 |
| I found he talked about himself a bit as well...good book of pictures
have a signed copy, in green marker. It's the second book he did which
includes the first book in the first half.
sean.
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