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    Jim,
    	  Although I have never seen them live I have been getting 
    boards now and again of them and I think they are great...
    I didn't even know they had an album out...
    
    Let me know the name of the album so I can try and get it...
    
    Randy
    

     They have a tape out called "Junta"...I have a copy from someone
    else's tape....I think they got it at a Phish show...
    
         DaveB.

     I think they had another album besides "Junta", called "Lawn Boy"
    which is out of print. I heard the signed with a new label and are
    going to release a new album and also re-release the others, should
    be hapenning pretty soon.
    
    
    Sean

    re .0
    
    "Junta" has been out of print for a while, and their second album (or
    3rd depending on how you count), "Lawn Boy" has been out of circulation
    since the record company went under.  The good news is that they've
    signed with Elektra and their new album, "A Picture of Nectar," will be
    out Feb 18.  Elektra does plan to re-issue the first two albums.
    
    The Phish hotline no. is 617-923-4939.
    
    Please help create rec.music.phish by following these instructions. 
    Even if you hate the band, it'll help remove Phish discussions from
    other newsgroups.
    
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This is the first official call for votes (CFV) to create the newsgroup
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lyrics (transcriptions, interpretation), performances (reports, reviews), 
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    I saw a Phish album on sale at Rockit Records in Nashua right next to
    Daddy's Junky Music.
    
    The album cover had Phish's picture in the middle surrounded by
    psychedelic designs depicting life in this world (predominantly green
    and black in color if I remember right) including some illustrations of
    forests, industrialization, and other things...  tough to remember the
    details.
    
    I don't know what the name of the album was though.
    
    I didn't buy it because it was fairly expensive...
    
    Treemon
    

    
    	WOW I didn't think that many people had heard of the band.
    	Thanks for the replys and vote yes for the Phish FILE.
    
    					Later
    					    Jim
    

    
    	How do you send mail to   [email protected]  ????
    

    
    Send to: DECPA::"[email protected]"
    
    

Yeah, Phish is getting pretty big lately.  We saw them New Year's Eve in
Worcester - really nice show.  The scene sort of resembled a mini-Dead show,
i.e. lots of zoned-out teenagers spinning and wandering aimlessly, but overall
a nice show.  I enjoyed it.  They are very talented.

tim

   Jamie, I knew you'd be in this note .... You Fluffhead you!!!  :-)

As was previously mentioned, Picture of Nectar is due out on Feb 18, and their
previous 2 albums (Junta and Lawn Boy) will be available on CD under the
Elektra label shortly.  In the meantime, for anybody not acquainted with Phish
(or for just anybody who is dying to get their hands on some live Phish), I've
got a growing collection (somewhere around 25 tapes and counting) that I'd
be more than willing to share.  So, if you'd like a tape, just send me e-mail
(although I've already got a few taping commitments made, so it might be a tiny
bit before I can get around to it).

For those of you who may not be familiar with Phish, while certain aspects of
"the scene"  and the shows are similar to the Dead (mostly relying on live
preformances, touring almost constantly, encouraging taping at shows, every
show is different, wide repretoire of songs to choose from, long instrumental
jams, etc.), the music is actually quite different than the Dead.  And the
band doesn't much like the Phish/Dead comparisons.  They'd like to be recognized
in their own right.

Which means, to help take Phish traffic off of Dead newsgroups, please vote
for rec.music.phish by sending mail to:

[email protected]

(to send over the internet, try either decpa::"[email protected]" or
nm%decwrl::"[email protected]")

To be fair about it, please read the charter posted in *.4 before voting, and
feel free to send me e-mail if you have any questions.

While we don't yet have a usenet newsgroup, there is a mailing list.  If you'd
like to get on the mailing list send mail to:

[email protected]

To post to the list, send mail to:

[email protected]

(but please don't send administrative mail to the posting address)

If (hopefully when) we get rec.music.phish, there will be a link set up to the
mailing list, much like there is a link between dead-flames and rec.music.gdead.
All postings to r.m.phish will automatically get posted to the mailing list,
and vice-versa.

Also, for you PhishHeads or PhishHeads-to-be, here's the upcoming tour
schedule:

Here's the latest information from the Phish hotline:
this is a new message as of February second.

March:

6,7: Portsmouth Music Hall, Portsmouth, N. H. (all)
11:  Colonial Theater, Keene, N. H.  (all)
12:  Flynn Theater, Burlington, Vt. (all)
13:  Campus Club, Providence, R. I. (18+)
14:  Roseland, N. Y. C. (18+)
17:  Lisner Auditorium, Washington D. C. (all)
19:  The Palace, New Haven, Conn. (all) *tentative
20:  The Bloom County Forum, Binghamton, N. Y. (all)
21:  The Chestnut Cabaret, Philadelphia, Pa.  (21+)
24:  The Flood Zone, Richmond, Va.  (18+)
25:  Trax, Charlottesville, Va.  (18+)
26:  Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, N. C. 
27:  The 1313 Club, Charlotte, N. C.
28:  Variety Playhouse, Atlanta, Ga.
30:  Mississippi Nights, St. Louis, Mo.
31:  The Bluenote, Columbia, Mo.

April:

1:   Liberty Hall, Lawrence, Kansas

On February tenth, ticket on-sale dates and additional information
will be announced.

A Picture of Nectar should be in stores on February eighteenth.
Chalkdust Torture is arriving at radio stations now, so request it! :-)

See ya on Spring Tour!

Peace and general phishiness,
Rich

p.s. how many other aPhishianados are there out in DECland?

    
    
    I have a bunch of friends in the UMass Amherst area who have been into
    Phish for a couple years. They all LOVE Phish, and have been bugging
    me to go "catch" a Phish show. Their music is intense and most of their
    lyrics (from the material I've heard) are light-humored....
    
    
    
      "The tires are the things on your car that make contact with the
    road...
    
       The tires are the things on your car that make contact with the
    road...
    
    
       Bummin's what you are when you go out to your car and it is towed.."
    
    
     :-) :-)  Steve-O

    my favorite is "POSSUM!"
    
    "his head is the road...  the road is his head..."
    
    			POSSUM!
    
    					da ve

"Herbivores ate well 'cause their food didn't ever run..."

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From: "Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.'  03-Mar-1992 0948" <[email protected]>
Subject: news.groups #44757 - RESULT:  rec.music.phish passes 566:125 
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 92 07:18:57 PST

YEAH!!!!  WE WON!!!!!

Just in case somebody else didn't post this:

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (John F. Whitehead) writes:

Rec.music.phish PASSES with a vote of 566 - 125!

     In the voting period (February 1 - February 29, 1992), there were
nearly 700 votes submitted.  There were 566 "yes" votes received to 125
"no" votes.  Because this passes the requirements for a new newsgroup,
the group should be created after a five-day waiting period barring any
problems.  Please direct any followups to news.groups, not to me. 

     The call for votes for rec.music.phish, an unmoderated newsgroup
for the discussion of the musical band Phish, was posted on February 1
to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.music.misc, rec.music.gdead,
and the Phish mailing list.  In addition to the yes and no votes noted
above, there were also several duplicate votes that I removed and four
illegal/ambigous votes that are listed at the end of this posting.

     The following people voted (sorted alphabetically by either name,
alias, or userid):

<rest deleted to conserve bandwidth>

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Phish will be on the Mountain Stage radio show (on NPR) this week
(In some areas they were already on last week)

In the Boston area, you can tune in on WBUR (90.9), Sunday between 7 and 9 PM

For all you DECheads out there who haven't yet been exposed to Phish, I
stongly suggest giving them a listen.

Peace and general phishiness,
Rich

    Can someone who is subscribed to the phish net give me the details on
    the Phish/Blues Traveler/Spin Doctors/Widespread Panic/ARU tour this 
    summer? The only date I heard was for Jones Beach in July (I forget) 
    with rumored dates for Syracuse and New England (TFP or Amy's Farm 
    would be nice!). 
    
    Gerry

                       <<< Note 237.17 by RAISE::GLADU >>>
Hey gerry,

I need a dictionary of three letter acronyms and initialisms to 
read your reply :)

>>    the Phish/Blues Traveler/Spin Doctors/Widespread Panic/ARU tour this 

what's ARU?


>>    with rumored dates for Syracuse and New England (TFP or Amy's Farm 

What's a TFP?  


and also,  there is a "big" write up in the current Rolling Stone about
these bands and how they are taking music back to the stage (and outta
the studio).

    there was a "small" write-up about 'em in the NYTimes
    2 or 3 Sundays ago, which I wuz gonna type in, but
    now I can't find the paper  (the old-newpaper police musta
    deleted it :-)
    
    /bruce

re: Spin Doctors

I just got a mail message (addressed to boston-music) with the Spins tour
schedule.  I deleted it, though.  Perhaps someone in here still has it.  Or ask
TIm Dalton (nicely :-)) to forward it to you.

adam

    re: ARU
    
    I fergit. 
    
    
    re: TFP
    
    Townsend Family Park
    
    re: Adam
    
    This isn't on the Spin Doctor's schedule yet. Ask Tim Dalton for
    something *nicely*?? Hah! That'll be the day. :-) 
    
    - Gerry

    ARU = Aquarium Rescue Unit
    

    ARU = Apricot's Really Underrated
    
    					da ve

 All Red Underwear?

    ARU = Argyle's Really Ugly

Another Rowdy Unicorn?

re     <<< Note 237.24 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Spending that renegade peso" >>>

> All Red Underwear?

Adam's Rose-covered Underwear  

;^)  

new hotline message as of May 4

spring tour ends on May 18 at the Flynn theatre in Burlington, VT
2 nearby shows (for me, that is) are May 10 at UMass and May 16 at the Orpheum,
in Boston
call the hotline yourself (617-923-4939) if you want a complete list

from "around" June 17 to July 4, Phish will be touring in Europe

the special summer shows will include:
Phish, Blues Traveler, Aquarium Rescure Unit, Spin Doctors, and Widespread Panic
the only 2 announced dates are:
July 11 - Garden State Arts Center (New Jersey)
July 12 - Jones Beach (Long Island)
no ticket info yet
there might be some more shows, but probably not too many more
in the previous newsletter it was mentioned that there would be a series of
shows in the northeast on a "long weekend" of July 9-12 (i think that's the
dates it gave); so my guess would be 2 more shows; maybe one at Townshend?  or
Arrowhead Ranch?

as for Amy's Farm, i've heard rumors that they're considering doing it again
("it" being a free show at Amy Skelton's horse farm in Auburn, ME), but nothing
official

i'll keep y'all posted

- rich

    I'm not much of a Phish fan, but I *do* enjoy TFP, and Amy's farm is
    certainly a scene worth traveling to.
    
    BTW, I gave the Pictures of Nectar another listen and it turns out
    that I like it. I'll bring it to the DEChead camp trip since Fog'll 
    probably bring his CD box.
    

Last night while studying I had WGIR tuned in and I couldn't believe it
but they played a Phish song???

World must be spinning backwards?  Program director slipped on bar of soap
and knocked himself silly?  Payola hits Manchester?

whew! 
bob (ok ok,  fnx had lousy reception last night for some unknown reason)

    hey bob, yer not gonna believe this but they actually play stuff by 
    Toad the Wet Sprocket at about 5 every morning and feel obligated to make
    some wise crack about the name every time they play them...
    (their sole function is to get me out of bed to turn off the alarm
    anyway)
    
    i don't think they have a program director there--they certainly don't
    need one!
    
    you're also not alone in having lousy FNX reception either!

RE: .30

well, i am quite a Phish Phan (or PhishHead, or aPhishianado), and I'm NOT too
particularly keen on Picture of Nectar; just like another band with which we
are probably familiar with, the studio just doesn't do them justice; you really
can't truly appreciate Phish until you experience them live (which can be done
immediately following the camping trip, might i add, as i plan to do); i'll
bring some live tapes with me (actually, i'll have a lot of tapes, since i've
got a bunch of trades to do when i meet up with people at the umass show)

of the 3 released studio albums: Junta, Lawn Boy, and Picture of Nectar, I think
Junta comes closest to the "real" Phish sound; it should be re-released by
Electra in all formats sometime this summer

- rich

latest news from the PhishNet: Phish will be opening for Santana this summer,
but it hasn't been confirmed how many of Santana's tour dates will include Phish

- rich

><<< Note 237.34 by TECRUS::FROMM "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes." >>>
>                         -< Phish opening for Santana >-
>
>latest news from the PhishNet: Phish will be opening for Santana this summer,
>but it hasn't been confirmed how many of Santana's tour dates will include 
>Phish
>
>- rich


Phish will be with santana at Little Trees...

Geoff

    Holy cosmic quakes batman...
    ]
    	So we have Phish opening,.. and Mickey sitting in with
    Santanna!!!!?!?!?!?!?!!??!
    
    	Drool drool drool
    
    	Is Mickey "confirmed" rumor or still "ugly" rumor...
    
    						/
    

Opening for Santana: (50 minute opening slot. Note: taping will not be allowed 
at these shows.  Phish will be starting fairly early each night. Often by 7:30,
sometimes earlier.  Call the venue to verify. All shows are all ages shows) 
===============================================================================
7/24:  Wantagh, New York -- Jones Beach Theatre
7/25:  Stowe, Vermont -- Stowe Performing Arts Center
7/26:  *** Note change of show *** 
          Paterson, New York -- Big Birch Concert Pavillion
7/27:  Saratoga Springs, New York -- Saratoga Performing Arts Center
7/28:  Rochester, New York -- Finger Lakes Performing Arts Center
7/30:  Rochester Hills, Michigan -- Meadow Brook Music Fesival
7/31:  Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio --  Blossom Music Center
8/1:   Hoffman Estates, Illinois -- Poplar Creek Music Center
8/2:   *** Note change of show *** 
          Marilyn (?) Heights, Missouri -- River Port Performing Arts Center
8/13:  Los Angeles, California -- Greek Theater
8/14:  Los Angeles, California -- Greek Theater
8/15:  Los Angeles, California -- Greek Theater

Headline show
===============================================================================
8/17:  San Juan Capistrano, California -- Coach House (all ages)

Opening for Santana:
===============================================================================
8/19:  Tuscon, Arizona  -  Pima County Fair
8/20:  Las Cruces, New Mexico -- Pan American Center
8/23:  Pueblo, Colorado -- Colorado State Fair
8/24:  Vail, Colorado -- Gerald Ford Amphitheater 
8/25:  Santa Fe, NM -- Sante Fe Downs
8/27:  Santa Barbara, California -- Santa Barbara County Bowl
8/28:  Concord, California -- Concord Pavilion
8/29:  Mountain View, California -- Shoreline Amphitheater
8/30:  Squaw Valley (on Lake Tahoe), California -- Squaw Valley Music Festival 


Fall Plans:
===============================================================================
Phish will be recording a new album in the fall for release in early 1993.
Expect Junta to be re-released by Elektra in the early fall.

>Phish - Great Woods 7/21/92

>All Things Re-considered
>Possum
>It's Ice
>Sparkle
>Stash
>Squirming Coil
>Runaway Jim


	okeydokey - never ever having heard Phish before and trying to
	remember what sparked me the most Tuesday night leaves me with
	a few questions;

		- which song quickens the tempo until it is going
		  reallyreallyrillyrillyrillyrillyrilly fast?

		- what albums/cds are these songs on?

		- what are peoples favorite phish albums and why?


Lisa_who_is_feeling_like_a_Lechemere_run_or_Noteworthy_call_is_in_the_works

    well Lisa I got it yesterday and only one of the songs listed is on the
    CD I got which I think is the only relased stuff they have, right Rich
    ?

I think they have 2 - an older one and a recent release which was listed in the 
new releases section of the Noteworthy catalog - but I could be wrong.

Scott

    I've seen 2 fish cds - their new one (1991) and an even newer one that
    is really a major label reissue of their locally produced first album
    (1990).  Don't remember any of the titles though.  Rockit Records has
    them both.
    
    Scott
    

 What was the tune they did where one of the lines was "bag it tag it..."?


 Real nice jamming on that tune...I was really impressed withtheir jamming..
 the lady I was with and I were trying to figure out how to describe their
 music...can't figure out a good description...I liked them, but guess I need
 to get some tapes :-)



 Jum

    re .38
    
    "Sparkle" -- "laugh and laugh and fall apart"
    
    re .42
    
    "Reba"
    
    There's "Lawn Boy," originally on Whiskey-A-Go-Go, now on Elektra minus
    one song, and "A Picture of Nectar," their latest.  I have the original
    "Lawn Boy" and it's poorly recorded, I dunno if the re-issue is an
    improvement.  "Nectar" sounds great, but, like the band I hate to
    compare them to, tapes are best.
    
    Jamie

    
    The description I came up with Tuesday (besides "WOW") was YES meets
    the DEAD meets FRANK ZAPPA meets METALLICA meets Dr. SUESS
    
    
    Steve-O_proud_of_his_description_ :-)
    
    

wow Steve-O, that's better than I could do.  I just decided there was 
"a suprise in every song"  :-)

Re: .38

I think Runaway Jim and Squirming Coil are on Lawn Boy.
I think Stash is on Picture of Nectar.
The rest of the tunes (and most of their repretoire) aren't on any albums.

Their first "official" album is Junta.  I like it the best of the three.  I
think it comes closest to capturing the energy of their live performances. It is
currently available only on cassette thru mail order.  It should be out in all
formats under the Elektra label sometime later this year.  I don't think it
will fit on a single CD.

Their second album, Lawn Boy, was released on cassette and CD by
Absolute-A-Go-Go.  They went out of business, and it was recently re-released
by Elektra, minus the song Fee (which is on Junta anyway).  I never had any
impressions about it being poorly recorded.  I think most of the tunes are
identical on the re-release, although I heard that they remixed one or two (but
I haven't listened to anything other than the original).

Their third album, Picture of Nectar, was the first release under the Elektra
label.  Both it and Lawn Boy are in the Noteworthy catalog.

Besides the 3 listed above, there's also a self-titled "Phish" album floating
about, but it was never for sale that I know of, and I think it's more of just
a glorified studio demo.

Then there's also Trey's senior thesis, "The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday -
The Gamehendge Saga" (also never for sale).  Numerous copies abound of this,
most of them are very poor quality.  It's a collection of songs and narration
that tell a story.  Most of the songs on it are now part of their regular
repretoire.  On a few occasions they have performed all of Gamehendge
live; I personally like 3/12/88 (or it may be 89, this is in dispute) at
Nectar's (in Burlington, VT).

They're heading back to the studio this fall to record another album.  I have
no clue what will be on it, since there's a lot of old material that has never
been released, and they've written a whole bunch of new songs that they've been
playing for a whilesince the newer stuff on PON.

Of course, as has been said before, you really must get ahold of live tapes.
Studio albums just don't do them justice.

Phish on,

- Rich

    I got about a dozen or more Phish master tapes I'm about to deGauss so 
    I can use them for other things. 
    
    Ger_who's_getting_rid_of_all_of_his_unwanted_tapes_magnetically_:-)

    
    How 'bout trading them for blanks instead???
    
    

    Already made that offer a long time ago when I started the Big Purge and 
    had no takers. Maybe no one took me seriously. :-) I'd probably trade 'em 
    for comparative amount of DAT blanks. Don't really need NEmore analogs,
    I'm trying to get rid of 'em. ;-)
    
    - Gerry

    Anything else you've got that you're trying to get rid of that
    oh...say...*I* might want? :)
    
    Rob
    

re: Note 237.50 by DIEHRD::CRAVEN 
    
    >Anything else you've got that you're trying to get rid of that
    >oh...say...*I* might want? :)
    
    I would tend to think so. Like I said last year, I've got over 1500 tapes 
    I'm trying to dump. Lets call it even at, say, 500 blank DAT tapes. :-)
    
    - Gerry

    Well...since I wasn't here last year, I didn't know that you had over
    1500 tapes you're trying to dump.  Hmmm...is there any way I could find
    out just WHAT you're dumping? :)
    
    Rob
    

re: Note 237.53 by DIEHRD::CRAVEN 
    
    >Hmmm...is there any way I could find out just WHAT you're dumping? :)
    
    Sure! Come on over and catalog them all for me. :-) I don't keep a list. 
    
    Before this goes any further, the offer wasn't to pick and
    choose through my collection at will. I was going to break them up
    into lots of 100 tapes with equal amounts of master tapes, 1st gen
    and other low gen boards and assorted other boards and auds. That way
    folks would have an equal shot at a good mix of tapes (and, of course,
    I wouldn't end up getting stiffed with all the common tapes). I thought
    it was a fair way to do it but most people who contacted me wanted to
    sift thru my collection and take what they wanted. I'm not interested
    in that, I'm trying to dump them lock, stock and barrel. This isn't
    Ger's Tape Clearing House. :-) I forget what the offer was, 15 lots at 
    100 tapes each for, I think, $2.00/tape (I forget). In any case, they're 
    mostly metal and XLII-S type tapes and I'd be selling them at less than
    cost especially when you consider the time spent dubbing them. There
    wasn't enough interest so I 86'd the idea in here.

    Heh heh.  No picking and choosing?  Oh well. :)
    
    It's too bad you dropped the idea.  Though...I think I'd probably shoot
    myself for getting 100 tapes.  Though $2/tape is a GREAT price...I
    don't think I can handle it. :)  $200...$200...nope, nope...I just
    can't do it. :)
    
    Rob
    

    I didn't drop the idea. I just dropped in here and took it elsewhere.

    Ah.....well, too bad I can't afford that sort of thing, because it
    sounds like a great deal. :)
    
    Rob
    

    how many phish master's do you have?
    
    if they're analog, i'll take them off your hands for either cash or
    blanks; if they're digital, i can't do anything with them but i'm sure
    i can find somebody that would
    
    - rich
    

re: Note 237.58 by TECRUS::FROMM 
    
    >how many phish master's do you have?
    
    About a dozen, see .47 (Pay attention, DAMMIT! :-)

november 19 Burlington
         20 Albany
         21 Stony Brook
         22 Ithaca
         23 Binghamton
         27,28 Portchester
december 30 Pittsburgh
 	 1 Dennison U.
 	 2 Columbus, OH
 	 3 Cincinnati
	 4 Chicago, IL
	 6 St. Louis
	 7 Minneapolis MN
	 8 Wisconsin
	 9,10 Michigan
	 11,12 Canada

bummer, only one show in new england

- rich

    
    Rich, do you know when tix go on sale & where?  I'd really
    like to catch the Albany show.....
    
    thanks for any info...
    
    MJ

well, the hotline (617-647-5521) keeps being busy, but i'll post any info that
i find once i get thru

in the meantime, this is the only word i have about any on-sale dates:

------------------------------

From: Jeff Althoff <[email protected]>
Subject: Capitol Theatre Info
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:24:08 GMT

Hi Everyone!

Just got off the phone with TM and the Capitol Theatre.

TM was clueless -- they seemed to think that they weren't
selling tickets for the Phish shows and told me to call the box
office.

Box Office has a recording (opens at noon) that says that tickets
go on sale Friday October 16 at 12 noon for Phish @ the Capitol
Nov. 27 and 28 at 8pm. Tickets are $18 in advance, $20 day of
show. Last time they played the Capitol they sold out a day
or two before the show (including standing room). Standing room
tickets are sold last, and at the box office only (i.e. not at
TM) -- at least this is how it was last time.

The Box Office recording says that tickets *will* be on sale
at Ticketmaster. Hopefully TM will get a clue by then.

The Box Office Phone number is (914) 937-4126. The theatre is
located at 149 Westchester Ave. in beautiful downtown PortChester.

I'm hoping I can make it.

Jeff.

"I saw you --- with a ticketstub in your hand!!"
-- 
============================================
Jeff Althoff    [email protected]


------------------------------

Phish Hotline (617-647-5521)

New message as of 10/1

Tickets for most venues will be available thru the box office, so that you can 
in general avoid the TicketMaster "surchares and overcharges".  (WAY COOL!)  You 
can still can order tickets thru TicketMaster if you want to.  Ticket on sale
dates are listed in parentheses at the end of the line.

11/19 - St. Michaels College, Colchester?, VT, all ages (10/15)
11/20 - Palace Theatre, Albany, NY, all ages (10/23)
11/21 - SUNY Stonybrook, Stnybrk(LI), NY, all ages (10/26 students, 11/2 public)
11/22 - Bailey Hall, Cornell U, Ithaca, NY, all ages (10/16)
11/23 - Broome County Forum, Binghampton, NY, all ages (10/16)
11/25 - Keswick Theatre, Glennside, PA (outside Philly), all ages (10/16)
11/27,28 - Capitol Theatre, Portchester, NY, all ages (10/16)
11/30 - Metropol, Pittsburgh, PA, all ages (10/16)
12/2 - Newport Music Hall, Columbus, OH, all ages (10/23)
12/3 - Bogarts, Cincinnati, OH, all ages (10/16)
12/4 - Mississippi Nights, St. Louis, MO, all ages (10/16)
12/5 - Vick? Theatre, Chicago, IL, all ages (10/17)
12/7 - First Ave., Minneapolis, MN, all ages (10/16)
12/8 - Barrymore Theatre, Madison, WI, all ages (10/20)
12/10 - State Theatre, Kalamazoo, MI, all ages (10/23)
12/11 - Michigan Theatre, Ann Arbor, MI, all ages (10/23)
12/12 - Spectrum, Toronto, Ontario, all ages (10/29)
12/13 - Spectrum, Montreal, Quebec, 18+ (?)

There will be a few New England area shows around New Years.
Junta will be re-released by the end of October, including about 40 minutes of
previously unreleased music.
Phish's new album will be released around January.

- rich

------------------------------

From: [email protected]
Subject: Phish, Spins, etc. in Boston
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:52:27 GMT

Guess what?  Just heard that on Friday, 30 October, WBCN will be holding theira
Spin Doctors, Michael Penn, and a bunch of other bands.  Tickets are $10 for
the whole shebang - all bands included, I believe.  (They're all playing on
the same night, if I didn't make that clear)  I think tickets are on sale...
call 1 800 828 7080  (TicketPro) for more info & stuff.  See you all there...
Happily yours-
_lisa pollack [email protected]

"Nothing left to do but :) :) :)"...of course not!  Look who's coming to town!

------------------------------

    
    
    Just got off the blower with TICKETPRO...
    
    Got six tix on the floor. (13 bux. $3 "service charge")
    If anybody gets LOGE, and wants to swap...lemme know.
    
    PHISH and Spin Doctors=  :-) :-)  Now all we need is to add Blues
    Traveler to the ticket!!
    
    Steve-O!
     

RE: BCN show...

NEone know how to get tix w/out paying the shafting (er, service) fee???

Dave (who-is-becoming-morally-opposed-to-high-shafting-fees)

re:       <<< Note 237.66 by DRINKS::WEISS "Beer -- It does a body good." >>>

>NEone know how to get tix w/out paying the shafting (er, service) fee???

You'd have to go to the Boston Garden, the venue where the show is.  If
you go of course, you may be severely inclined to indulge in a microbrew 
at CBC and use the service charge savings as beer money ;-)   

Like the tix I just got for Bela.  $15.00 w/ no service fee obtained from
the venue's box office.   They *look* like Ticketmaster tickets, they *feel* 
like ticketshafter tickets, but they aint ticketshafter tickets.   ;-)

Ken

    Those service fees can add up...When I called yesterday for Bela, and
    ordered 4 tix (at $15.00 a piece), my total came out to be
    $78.30...Which, in service fees, is enough for another ticket.
    
    danielle_who_thinks_ticketmaster_is_a_rip-off

    
    
    Just got tix for the WBCN concert...  Will be my first time seeing
    Phish & the Spin Doctors (and everyone else on the ticket for that
    matter)...  
    
    Row AA on the floor.  :^)
    
    Paid the fees :^(
    
    Tree

yeah, the fees suck, and i try to avoid them when i can
but you can get great seats right NOW for the BG show, and i don't think i'd
	be too keen on being way far away for Phish (all shows that i've been
	to except when they opened for Santana were general admission; i hope
	this reserved seating thing doesn't become the norm, but i fear that
	it's now going to be much more common nowadays)
jeff ordered 4 tix earlier this morn, and the lady on the phone said less than
	100 seats had been sold as of then

/rich

i posted the tour schedule earlier, but i didn't include box office numbers
here goes...

/rich

p.s. i'll probably go to portchester and albany; i'd love to go to vermont
and ithaca, but real life considerations (i.e. day of the week) must prevail

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [email protected] (Shelly Culbertson)
Subject: Detailed Fall Venue Information
Date: 2 Oct 1992 20:08:31 GMT

Since the fall tour dates have now been posted three times :-),
no need to repeat them again right away, I imagine...but here is
the detailed venue information, for tickets, etc.  (This is taken
from this morning's fax, which is most likely the same one John
Greene received [hi John!].  As he said, the newsletter must be
virtually ready to be mailed, since this fax is a newsletter page.)


Info Key:  Venue - address, city, state, venue phone # (ticket locations)

St. Michael's College - Ross Sports Center, Colchester, VT (802) 654-2568
    (tickets: campus and Flynn Theatre box office, (802) 863-5966)

Palace Theatre - 19 Clinton Ave., Albany, NY (518) 465-0681
    (tickets: box office, TicketMaster (TM), SUNY Tunes, Drome Sound)

SUNY Stony Brook - Sports Complex, East Wing, SUNY (516) 632-6464
    (tickets: campus, TM)

Cornell University - Bailey Hall, Garden Ave, Ithaca, NY (607) 255-7231
    (tickets: campus, limited amount at TM)

Broome County Forum - 236 Washington St, Binghamton, NY (607) 778-1369
    (tickets: box office, TM)

Keswick Theatre - 291 Keswick Ave, Glenside, PA (215) 572-7650
    (tickets: box office, TM)

Capitol Theatre - 149 Westchester Ave, Port Chester, NY (no phone?)
    (tickets: box office, TM)

Metropol - 1600 Smallman St., Pittsburgh, PA (412) 261-4512
    (tickets: box office and local record stores - call for info)

Newport Music Hall - 1722 North High St, Columbus, OH (614) 847-4400
    (tickets: box office, TM)

Bogart's - 2621 Vine St, Cincinnati, OH (513) 281-8414
    (tickets: box office, TM)

Mississippi Nights - 914 North 1st St, St. Louis, MO (314) 21-3853
    (tickets: box office, Famous Bar Stores, Streetside Records, DialTix) 

Vic Theatre - 3145 N. Sheffield, Chicago, IL (312) 472-0449
    (tickets: box office, TM)

First Avenue - 701 1st Ave North, Minneapolis, MN (612) 338-8388
    (tickets: numerous record stores, call for info)

Barrymore Theatre - 2090 Atwood (?) Ave, Madison, WI (608) 241-2345
    (tickets: box office, Exclusive Co., Star Liquor, Green Earth)

State Theatre - 404 South Burdick, Kalamazoo, MI (616) 345-8188
    (tickets: box office, TM)

Michigan Theatre - 603 East Liberty, Ann Arbor, MI (313) 668-8397
    (tickets: box office, TM)

Spectrum - 2714 Danforth Ave, Toronto, Ontario, Canada (416) 699-9913
    (tickets: TM, Record Peddler) 

Le Spectrum - 318 St. Catherine Street West, Montreal, Quebec (514) 861-5851
    (tickets: box office, Admission outlets)


...don't forget to tell your friends and neighbors! :-)
Shelly

tix on sale now (since 12:30) for 11/27,28 @ capitol theatre in portchester, ny

i ordered 4 for each nite

ny ticketbastard number is 212-307-7171

/rich

more word from the net:

>So the word from the office is Phish is headlining.... but they will only
>get an hour to play.  Such is life.

/rich

if you're going to the show tomorrow night at the garden, just thought i'd
let ya know that there's a PhishNet gathering beforehand at the Commonwealth
Brewing Company (located very close by)

see ya there!

/rich

p.s. SUNY stonybrook (one of the few northeast shows this tour with some GA
seating) tix go on sale fri @ 10:30 am

------------------------------

From: Robert Johnson - King of the Delta Blues <[email protected]>
Subject: NEW YEAR'S GIG INFO
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 22:17:23 GMT

|From: [email protected] (Jonathan Rozes)
|
|I heard that Phish was handing out post cards at the Boston Garden show
|which had information about the pre-new years shows in New England. If
|this is the case, would somebody who got one please post all relevant
|information to the net? Thanks a lot!
|
|jjr

Okay, here it is:  NEW YEAR'S GIG INFO (taken from the yellow postcards
they were handing out at the Boston Garden)
================================================================================
DEC 28 & 29 - PALACE THEATRE   254 College St.  New Haven, CT  (203) 789-2120
        Tix available at all TicketPro outlets, Strawberries, and the Palace Box
        Office - ON SALE SAT. NOV. 14 (limit 4 tickets per customer)

DEC 30 - SYMPHONY HALL  1277 Main St.  Springfield, MA  (413) 787-6600
        Tix avaliable at all TicketMaster outlets and the Symphony Hall Box 
        Office - ON SALE FRI. NOV. 13 (limit 4 tickets per customer)

DEC 31 - MATTHEWS ARENA  238 Saint Botolph St.  Boston, MA  (617) 482-0651
        Tix available at all TicketMaster outlets, the Orpheum Box Office and
        TicketMaster phone charge.
        ON SALE SAT. NOV. 7 AT 10AM (limit 4 tickets per customer)
        All seats general admission.
        Matthews can be accessed by the E Green Line (Symphony stop)
        Doors open at 7:30 - Show from 9pm - ?
================================================================================

PHISH NOTES:
Junta release date has been changed to Nov. 6.

The new album, Rift, will be released in late Jan. and will contain 60+ minutes
of music.

Spring tour of the US and Canada to run from late Jan. thru mid May.

The next newsletter (with spring tour dates) will be out in early Jan.


MIKE'S CORNER - Frostbite

PHISH PROFILES: Clamato is our monitor mixer.

------------------------------

Phish, Boston Garden, Boston, MA, 10/30/92

Runaway Jim
Maze
Bouncing Around The Room
Rift
Cavern->
vacuum solo->
last note of Cavern
Squirming Coil
Stash
Sweet Adeline (a capella, but with mics)
You Enjoy Myself->
vocal jam

I did spot one DEChead t-shirt at the show.  Who was in Sec DD Row 18?

/rich

p.s. anybody else from this notes file going to any of the shows on the "real"
tour?

    
    I'm planning to go to the New Year's show, My friend Christine
    lives on Saint Boltoph St!  Should be a grate night!!!!
    
    

I'm Sssssooooo there!!!

I'll also be attending the Albany show, probably the Stony Brook show, and
definately the New Haven and Springfield shows!!!!

I might own some taping equipment by then too...

- jeff

    
    Rich!
    The DEChead you saw was probably Joyce (my GF). We WERE in row 18 until
    the assholes started jumping in from the loge knocking us over,
    spilling soda ALL OVER Joyce's shirt, and getting me enraged enough to
    almost kill someone (although I told the guy I'd spare his face, for
    I'm a peaceful man ;-) We ended up behind the stage where we could
    enjoy the show.
    
     The Spin Docs were REALLY good, but PHISH was soooo phishy!!!  :-)
    
    Steve-O
    

    
    
    Anybody going the the NYE Phish show in Boston?  Yes? No? Maybe?
    "Maybe so or maybe not"....  :-) 
    
    Steve-O 
    

i'll definitely be at nye; i haven't decided yet whether or not to hit the
other 3 shows on the nye run

/rich

I'll be there too!

adam

      Me too!
    
                  :-) DaveB.

>    <<< Note 237.82 by KALI::SIEGEL "The revolution wil not be televised" >>>
>
>I'll be there too!
>
>adam


Adam, you're going to see Phish on NYE and not Slipknot!!! I'm heartbroken. 
:-):-):-)

Geoff

    I'll be there as well!!! In fact I'm lucky enough to maybe be in the
    front row!!! ;^)
    
    Is there any interest in keeping the celebration going after the show?
    Say something like a hotel room/floor or something? 

    
    I'll be at Phish for NYE too!  :-)   
    
    (We all "maybe" lucky enuff to be in the front row - it's GA!)
    
    Should be a grate time!!!!!!!
    
    MJ

    I'll probably be there as well. Unless something better comes along.
    A lot of my fiends are going, though. So I'll probably be there.

	I'll be there probably,

	Never seen Phish before (except at UVM before they were 
				 Phish )  :-)

I'll DEFINATELY be bouncing around THAT room!!!

...and I just might tape the show too an' all since I just got me a portable
DAT deck...

...anybody know where to find/rent good mics around here?

- jeff

re: Note 237.89 by SUBPAC::MAGGARD 

>...anybody know where to find/rent good mics around here?

    You can get a patch from us if you want. save your money.

Date:	12-NOV-1992 17:06:39.40
From:	CAMPR::FROMM        "Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.'"
Subj:	Phish on NYE - let's party together!
To:	phish bostonmusic
CC:	fromm

Howdy all ye Phisherpholks!

Having definitely decided that I don't feel like dealing with driving home
after the show, I think it makes a lot more sense to get a hotel room.  What
would make things all the more phun would be if a bunch of us PhishNetters all
got hotel rooms together and partied late into the night.  So whose up for it?  
(Somebody even suggested bringing decks and doing an immediate one level tape 
tree.  Just how many decks can you serially chain together without significant 
signal degredation?)

First of all, if you have any suggestions about cheap hotels near the venue, 
please send me some mail.  Even if you don't have a clue, send me mail if
you're interested on the group room idea, how many people would be with you,
and how many rooms you'd want.  Or if you're just going alone and would like
to hook up with some other people to help share the cost, let me know that too. 
I'm not willing to shell out money for a large block of rooms, but maybe I can
arrange something where I make a reservation to set aside a group of rooms and
have individual people call and give their names (and credit card numbers?) to 
actually reserve the rooms (or do they want payment in advance on nye?).  I've 
never tried doing anything like this before, so I don't even how logistically 
feasible it is, but I'm willing to give it a shot and try to coordinate it.

I'll make some calls within a few days to find some possibilities, and get some 
info on prices.  If we're going to do this, we ought to do it soon.  From what 
I've heard, hotel rooms for NYE go quickly in Boston.  If possible, I'd like to 
get this planned by Thanksgiving.

doing things smart people wouldn't do,
- rich

    Leave it to me to get stuck with front row dead center tickets for
    the Springfield Symphony Hall Phish show. :-/ I suppose my Guardian
    Bozo (tm) thinks he's doing me a favor or something. :-) I planned
    on taping the show but not from the 1st row I can't. :-/

    
    So give your deck to someone else and boogy in the 1st row!!!
    
    

    Gee Phyllis, think I can *find* my way back to the front row? :-)
    They *do* sell beer at Symphony Hall ya know. :-) 

    
    Oooh I don't know.  Better send someone else for the beer.
    
    ;-) ;-) ;-)
    
    

   and most definitely do not leave the deck with Fog, Phyllis, or I!  :-)

   

    I really like Phish.  My son introduced me to them.

    >I really like Phish.  My son introduced me to them.

Cool, did you get their autographs??

>Cool, did you get their autographs??

actually, i do have trey and page's signatures on my picture of Nectar; i felt
really kind of silly when i asked them for it, but they didn't seem to mind

/rich

    Who's going to the Springfield show? Anyone? Tim Dalton lucked out
    with 24th row center seats - perfect for taping. So I guess we'll be 
    flip-flopping back and forth between the 1st & 24th rows. Geez, couldn't
    ask for a better situation.

>    Who's going to the Springfield show? Anyone? 

i'm going to albany (11/20), stonybrook (11/21), portchester (11/27, 11/28),
springfield (12/30), and boston (12/31)

i can't believe i'm going to this many shows, but i haven't seen them headline
since march (philly) and i'm jonesin' for some shows

i think i'm going to pass up on new haven (12/28, 12/29), however

/rich

    I ment that he introduced me to their music.

    Shoot me, but I've never even heard Phish yet.  All my friends love
    Phish, guess I should borrow one of their CD's...Is it as good as
    everyone says?
    
    :), danielle

    They're really creative.

    What style of music is it?
    

Well, they're the only band I've ever heard play covers
of Neil Diamond, bluegrass, Z.Z. Top, fusion jazz and
a vacuum cleaner in one show.

In other words, they're a little hard to nail down on the
subject of 'style'.

tim

   > Well, they're the only band I've ever heard play covers
   > of Neil Diamond, bluegrass, Z.Z. Top, fusion jazz and
   > a vacuum cleaner in one show.
    
    A vacuum cleaner!!  :)  ha ha ha...
    
    danielle

>  A vacuum cleaner!!  :)  ha ha ha...
 
He's serious, Danielle...Rilly.  The drummer uses a vacuum cleaner
(looks like a hoover canister to me) for solo.  That sucking action
makes for some real cool sounds...It's wild...

But, Tim, a cover of a vacuum cleaner...who did the original? :-)

Dave

>>  A vacuum cleaner!!  :)  ha ha ha...
 
>He's serious, Danielle...Rilly.  The drummer uses a vacuum cleaner
(looks like a hoover canister to me) for solo.

during spring tour of 1992 he also was using some clever hookup where the
vaccuum cleaner was hooked up to the bagpipes that he was playing; i think
he decided it sounded just a bit too weird and went back to playing just the
vaccuum (when he's not playing drums or trombone, that is); his mother has
also played vaccuum with the band before

as for their music, it really is hard to classify; they have a wide array of
original tunes, and they have songs that are rock, jazz, country, thrash (the
only tune of theirs that i don't particularly enjoy), and just about whatever
you can think of; and they do covers of just about all types of artists,
including Charile Parker, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Neil Diamond, AC/DC,
Syd Barrett, the Wizard of Oz, Bill Monroe, etc.

if you're looking for a CD, my recommendation is Junta, their 1988 release
which was just re-released by Elektra on CD; better yet, get some live stuff;
if there's enough interest in this file for people who are lacking Phish tapes,
perhaps I'll run a Phish tree in GRATEFUL; or, check out rec.music.phish and
sign up on a tree there

. . . r i c H

    Thanks for the info, Rich...
    
    :), danielle

Hey Rich,

Is NYE sold out yet?  If so, know where I can get a couple?
Karin's a major Phish-head, and I know she'd love to
go...

It's at Northeastern U., right?  Worcester was a lot of fun 
last year, and we figure on doing it again...

tim

    My NYE tix came from Ticketmaster.

>Is NYE sold out yet?  If so, know where I can get a couple?

sorry to disappoint you, but nye is indeed sold out; and there's a lot of
grovels on the net, so finding more is gonna be tough; if i could get you just
one, would you take it, or will you only settle for a pair?

>It's at Northeastern U., right?  Worcester was a lot of fun 
>last year, and we figure on doing it again...

matthew's arena, at northeastern; seats approx. 6,000; all seats GA; from what
i've been told, it's a hockey rink and the acoustics suck, but i've never been
there; i was at the nye show 2 years ago and had a blast (see my "Your favorite
concert attended" comments); didn't go last year - i was in London at the time

. . . r i c H

Anybody planning on taping Albany, Springfield, or NYE at Matthew's?

- jeff-interested-in-a-patch-....

    We'll give you a patch in Boston. Springfield is reserved. Probably
    won't be able to sit with your deck if you patch with us unless 
    you have seats closer than 20th row center (where we're taping from)
    to trade our seating neighbors for. We could probably run it for you,
    though.

>sorry to disappoint you, but nye is indeed sold out; and there's a lot of
>grovels on the net, so finding more is gonna be tough; if i could get you just
>one, would you take it, or will you only settle for a pair?

Thanks.  I figured it was probably sold out.  I'll check with one of my
'contacts' first to see if I can get a couple tix.

tim

>I'll check with one of my
>'contacts' first to see if I can get a couple tix.

well, if you can get yourself some and there are also some more extras, please
let me know; i've got a friend who's never seen phish and really would like
to go to nye (but he'd also settle for springfield, so if anybody in here has
any extras to either, please send me e-mail)

. . . r i c H

with so much interest for the DEChead shirts, i thought there might be some
interest here in this:

------------------------------

From: Matt Laurence <[email protected]>
Subject: Two things ...
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:47:42 GMT


First of all, I just finished a LARGE Phishnet Shirt
update and was about to post it when my system froze,
so I lost everything. The gist of it wasL

1) All 1992 orders are out the door - look for them in the
next couple of weeks. And keep 'em coming, coz there are
still about 30 Xl and 5 XXL 1992 shirts left, still just
$14 including everything!

2) The 1993 shirt is making it's first pass at the 
printer this week, for color correction and separation.
Next it goes to the typography house where films will 
be made, then back to the printer for screens, and 
soon into your hot little hands!

3) 1993 shirt Pre-orders have been going great, and PLEASE
keep them up. This shirt is more complex than last years,
and will be more expensive to produce as well. And since
I have to pay all costs up front, any up-front help from 
the soon-to-be-shirt-wearers is helpful. They're $15 each,
plus $2 if you are out of the US and $1 for XXL, and send
any orders to:

Matt Laurence 
11 John Poulter Rd.
Lexington, MA 02173

  They should be done about Dec. 9th or so (the same day Omar
Saeed is playing the Middle East Cafe for you lucky 
bostoners!)

4) For those who don't know, the Phish Net T shirt is designed
to help net-pholks locate each other at shows, gatherings, or
in any large crowd situation, and to generally show appreciaton
for the band and your extended net.family! Since everyone here
is a member of that family, it is good to know a sympathetic
and phriendly face when you see one! The 1992 shirts are almost
gone (no calls have been made for reprints, so unless I hear
soon, there won't be one), but the 1993 shirt is underway and
promises to be even bigger than last years, since so many 
great new pholks have climbed aboard! I'll post another 
description of it at a later date, but rest assuredm, it is
even more colorful than last years. I'm still working on how
to do it on something other than white... results to come.

5) EDWARD J. RAYMOND - please contact me. You should have your
shirt by now, but there was a problem with your check. Drop
me a line - your net addres was not on the check.

Well, that wraps up the latest Phish Net Shirt update. Deep
an eye out (uh, that's KEEP an eye out... damn fingers...)
for more as it develops.

Oh, and one more thing...

SEE BELA FLECK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt

------------------------------

    
    I could use a couple of tickets to the Capitol Theater show the day
    after Thanksgiving.  If anyone's got any leads or ideas, please email
    terapn::phyllis or call 352-2756.
    
    Thanks!
    

Date:	18-NOV-1992 18:46:48.39
From:	CAMPR::FROMM        "Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.'"
Subj:	nye update
To:	phish @main:nye.dis
CC:	fromm sluggo

well, i just made a few calls

first of all, the MBTA (the people who run the T) have no clue how late the T 
will run on nye; so if they don't know, who does?  my guess is that it's 
probably slightly past the regular time (which is around 12:30), but definitely 
not all night

I called the Midtown Hotel, the Colonnade, the Boston Marriott Copley Place, 
the Copley Square Hotel, the Sheraton Boston Hotel and Towers, the Back Bay 
Hilton Hotel, the Lenox Hotel, the Howard Johnson Boston-Fenway, and the Howard 
Johnson Boston-Kenmore Square.

Prices are indeed kind of pricey.  (Ok, that does sound like a pretty stupid 
statement.)  Both HoJo's are $105/night, including parking.  They said they 
have group rates for 10 rooms or more, but I spoke with the sales guy at one of 
them and he said that that wasn't applicable for nye.  My guess is that that's 
true at the other HoJo too.  The Sheraton is $79/night (these prices are based 
on double occupancy) if you make reservations 14 days in advance.  But parking 
is not included, and if you park at the hotel it's $16/day.  I was told to 
contact the sales departemtact the sales department about group rates.  I 
haven't done that yet, but again, I have this feeling that they might not be 
too up for it on nye, since they'll most likely fill the place without doing 
that.  Prices at the other places go up from this level.

[email protected] writes:

> Hotels for NYE:
>  A friend of mine called and got two rooms at the
>Days Inn in Newton, MA, which is just outside of
>Boston. I don't know if they have any rooms left,
>but it's worth checking out. The rate we got was
>$49 per night. If you want to get a hotel inside
>the city, expect to pay $100 at least for a room,
>and I bet we'd be hard pressed to find a hotel that
>could give a group of rooms for netters inside the
>city. 

well, he did indeed have a point; a viable option would be to consider staying
outside of boston; my whole reason for doing this was to not have to worry
about driving somewhere afterwards, and to be able to just hang out after the 
show and party; since i live in framingham, if i've got to get all the way to 
newton, i'd just head all the way home and bag the hotel idea

there is another option, however

located VERY close to the arena is a YMCA, and they have rooms that they rent 
out; the lady on the phone said that they're kind of like dorm rooms;  $33 for 
a single room, $48 for a double room; these rooms do not have private baths, 
but share a bath for the hall;  there are some single rooms with private baths 
available for $48; the prices include breakfast the next morning, and i think 
use of the facilities for the day; i didn't actually see the rooms, but in 
general the Y looked pretty nice, and i think there was something talking about 
recent renovations; so it's not some run-down, cockroach-infested dive; alas, 
the Y does not have parking; she gave me the phone number of the closest garage 
to find out their rates, but they're not answering the phone;  there is some 
on-street parking, but not a hell of a lot of it; and i think there is parking 
just for the arena, but i don't know if they'd allow all night parking; if this 
looks like an option to consider, i can call and ask

so, for people who are interested, i'd like to get some feedback about what you 
think:  1) expensive hotel inside boston, 2) cheaper hotel outside of boston, 
or 3) the YMCA;  if the decision is on either 1 or 2, there's a decent chance i 
may bag the idea of doing this personally and just drive home after the show

please send me e-mail if you'd care to voice an opinion on the matter, or to 
provide more information on how many people/rooms you'd want

. . . r i c H

A friend of mine once stayed at the HoJo's near Sullivan Square, it was
much cheaper than the Boston hotels, and it's on the T (walking distance
from the Sullivan Sq. stop on the orange line).  

A bunch of us took a cab from somewhere in Boston (a couple blocks up the
street from the Pour House) to this hotel.  I don't remember how much it cost
(or much else by that time of the night %-) ), but I do remember split 3 ways,
the cab was pretty cheap (~$5 per person).

Joe Bob says, check it out...

Dave

    Not that I'm going or anything, but NYE in Boston is also 'First Night'
    so I would expect the T to be open a bit later than normal.  Now
    if would could get a babysitter, Sir Morgan's Cove might be
    interesting.  But we're such stick in the mud's we'll probably stay
    home, light the fire, sit back and have a winter warmer or such.
    
    PeterT

Date:	 7-DEC-1992 19:19:44.99
From:	CAMPR::FROMM        "Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.'"
Subj:	*** NYE HOTEL UPDATE ***
To:	phish @main:nye.dis
CC:	fromm

NYE update:

First of all, if you haven't yet read anything about this, what I'm trying
to do is organize all of the people looking for a hotel after the New Year's
show, so that we can all party together.  So, if you're interested and
haven't yet sent me mail, please do so now and tell me how many people and
how many rooms you'd want.  Actually, it's the rooms that I really care
about.  If you plan on stuffing 10 people into 1 room, that's fine, just
don't tell the management.  As far as I'm concerned, that's 1 room.

I'm trying to do this with a hotel that's close by to the arena.  If it
involved driving to get to it, I'd rather just drive all the way home.

Here's the current situation: (eliminating a bunch of others that i called
but were too much $)

the YMCA
REALLY close to the arena, pretty cheap; $33 for a single room w/out a private
bath, $48 for a double room w/out a private bath, $48 for a single room w/ a
private bath; some people expressed concerns about the Y possibly having
certain restrictions (like when you had to be in by, or who could stay there,
etc.); the guy i just spoke to said that there were none, but he didn't
speak too much english, so maybe i ought to call back tomorrow; oh yeah,
parking is not included; have to deal with private lots, street, etc.

Sheraton Boston Hotel and Towers
$79 for a double room, if paid 14 days in advance; $16/day parking; Harry,
did you call these guys to check on getting a group rate?  If we can get a
group rate, people might be willing to consider it over the YMCA.  But if
not, since most people are on tight budgets, I think we should stick with
the Y.

Marriott
somebody mentioned about a Marriott having a $59 rate; where was this?  I
called the one near the arena (Boston Marriott Copley Place) and they want
$139

fwiw, I've also called and eliminated (too much $) the Midtown, Colonnade,
Copley Square, Back Bay Hilton, and Howard Johnson

Okay, here's the list of the people who have responded so far, and what I think
their level of interest is.  The only people who have sent me mail saying they
are definitely interested are Andy Burns and Molly Rinaldi. Molly, please send
me mail and let me know how many rooms you want.  Andy, no need to send me any
more mail.  Any other people listed as tentative, please send me mail to let me
know if you're in (and for how many rooms), or if you want to be removed from
my list.  And if you're not on the list but want in on this, please let me know
ASAP. Sorry for wasting all of this bandwidth for people who totally aren't
interested, or aren't going to NYE (has Jesus found tickets yet?), but I
thought this was important enough to post to the whole net, not just my
distribution list, since I want people who aren't yet on the list but might be
interested to find out about it.


nm%decwrl::"[email protected]"		!Noah Cole
!might be interested

nm%SALEM::BURNS					!Andy
!double room confirmed

nm%decwrl::"[email protected]"		!HARRY ALOYSIUS MCQUILLEN
!not interested anymore?

nm%decwrl::"[email protected]"	!Jeff Althoff
!tentative double room

nm%decwrl::"[email protected]"	!sanjeevan naguleswaran
!tentative double room

nm%decwrl::"[email protected]"	!Sean
!tentative double room

nm%decwrl::"[email protected]"	!Justin
!not going after all?

nm%decwrl::"[email protected]"			!Alan Sodoma
!tentative double room

nm%decwrl::"[email protected]"		!Robert W. Barber
!i don't have any saved mail from this person; why is he on my list?

nm%decwrl::"[email protected]"	!molly rinaldi
!10 people confirmed

nm%subpac::maggard				!Jeff Maggard
!double room?


the stars they really suck tonight...

- rich

i just spoke with someone who claims to have just purchased 4 tix from
ticketmaster; believe it if you need it...

- rich

p.s. here are the 'bastards numbers that i know of:

VT: 802.862.5300        NH: 603.626.5000
MA: 617.931.2000        RI: 401.331.2211
NY: 212.307.7171        ME: 207.775.3331
Buffalo: 716.852.5000
western MA: 413.733.2500

call information to get any more

p.p.s. i can somewhat understand how this could happen; since it's a total GA
show, they may not have initially been sure of how many tickets they could sell;
perhaps they found out that Phish's stage won't take up as much room as they had
thought, or perhaps they just decided to make more money and cram in more people
than they legally can; anyway, for all of you grovelers out there, it certainly
can't hurt to make a phone call; i have no direct knowledge of whether or not
this rumor is true, so go find out for yourself

Confirmed.  Just got 2 tix myself.  $20 each. $50.80 including extortion fees.

See ya there, Rich.

tim

    I just called Ticketmaster and they are sold out...
    
    I'm in need of 1 ticket for New Years Eve....  
    
    If anyone can help out I really appreciate it...  
    
    MJ
    
    ISLNDS::CONNORS_M
    DTN:  229-7572
    Home: 508-368-8160
    
    Thanks!
    
    

<- re

AAACK!!!!!  Dang Nabbit!

I just offered BOTH my extras just 5 minutes ago!  Somebody please shoot me
for not looking here first!

- jeff

PS -- if they decline, it's yours MJ
    
    

some recent postings that might be of interest:

------------------------------

From: "John J. Liston [MacWEEK]" <[email protected]>
Subject: NYE Extra's...
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:02:59 GMT

I have four(4) extra tickets to NYE.  If you would like to make an offer 
please do so immed. via email: 
        
        [email protected] (or) [email protected]
        
         or you can call me @ 718-522-3167

Wishing everyone the very best during the holidaze...

Serendipity

John

------------------------------

From: [email protected] (TIM MCGRATH!)
Subject: roseland 2/5,6/93
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:12:00 GMT

just got off the phone with ticketbastard.  According to their computers,
Phish will be playing at Roseland Ballroom (NYC) on February 5 & 6, 1993
tickets go on sale on January 8, 1993.     later

------------------------------

From: "Timothy J. Dalton" <[email protected]>
Subject: NYE REBROADCAST 1/1 WBCN 104.1 Boston
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:49:56 GMT


WBCN (104.1) in Boston will be rebroadcasting the entire
NYE show on 1/1 at 12 noon...all 3 sets (4 hrs) as they put it...

Now you know.


------------------------------

	I'm looking for 1 or 2 tickets to Phish on 12/30. Springfield.
	Any help appreciated.

	Thanks,
	Ken

    Here's the dir's for Springfield Symphony Hall, parking, hotels,
    bus, train and Tilly's. Tilly's would be a good place for the 18+
    crowd since it's a restaurant/bar (I called & checked).
    
    Gerry
    
    
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-----------+^+---+V+---------------+ +---------------------------+ +--------
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-----------+^+---+V+--+---------+--+ +--------+------------------+ +-------+
           |W|   | |  |   Bay   |  | | Fleet  | Tilly's  Bank Of |E|       |
           |o|   |B|  |  State  |  |B| Bank   | 732-3613 Boston  | |       |
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           |n|   |e|+-+---------+-+|d| Hotel  |          Clock   |t|  Sq.  |  
           |g|   | ||24hr Parking || |        |          Tower   | |       |
           |t|   |S||             ||W| 781-   |                  |S|       |
           |o|   |t|| restaurant  ||a| 1010   |          Symphony|t|       |
           |n|   | ||may validate ||y|        | 733-2291 Hall    | |       |
-----------+^+---+V++-------------++ +--------+------------------+ +-------+
                           East Columbus Ave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
============================================================================
<-NORTH I91-Take E. Columbus exit either way. Park at Bay State West SOUTH->
============================================================================

notwithstanding jeff's wonderful efforts to recently (i.e. a mere few moments
ago) type in the directions to nye, complete with a map, i offer this humble
piece of advice: DON'T DRIVE!  take the T instead

new year's in boston means the annual "First Night" celebration, which means
that you won't be the only one trying to get into the city (there will be an
estimated half-million others); so my advice (and this is also the advice given
in the "First Night" insert in the Boston Phoenix) is to drive to the outskirts
of the city and take the T from there; unless you are one of the lucky few to
end up with the limited parking near the arena (and that won't do you any good
if you're spending the night), it will be much more of a hassle, and probably
cost you a lot more money, if you take your car (oh yeah, for those of you
staying at the Y, the price does NOT include parking of any sort)

Matthew's arena is located on the E spur of the Green Line; unfortunately,
there's not a parking lot at the end of that line; according to the Phoenix,
there are lots at the following stations:  Alewife (Red Line, on the northern
side of Cambridge), Braintree (Red Line, on the South Shore), Wonderland
(Blue Line, in Revere), and Riverside (D section of the Green Line, in Newton);
i will provide directions to the Riverside stop, because it's the only one
that I know where it is; if you want any other information about the T, call
the MBTA customer-service line at 617-722-3200

Newton is located immediately west of Boston; if you're coming from the West,
right before you hit the tolls on the Mass Pike (I-90), veer right at exit 15
and get on 128 (I-95) South; if you're not coming from the West, then perhaps
you should drive to another T stop, although 128 (I-95) loops around the city,
so there are many other points that you could get on it (like at I-93, both
north and south of the city); anyway, once you're on 128 South, you only have
to stay on it for a very short time (less than a mile); get off at the stop
that's marked with a T sign (it's the Riverside stop, to reiterate, but I don't
know if that's on the sign); it appears to be exit 22 from my map, but I'd
trust the T marker more than I'd trust an exit number; if you hit Rte. 16,
you've gone too far

i called the MBTA this afternoon, and they said that parking at Riverside is
$2.25 for 24 hours; you're NOT going to find cheaper parking than that anywhere
in the city; in most places, it only costs 85 cents to take the T; from the end
of the D section of the Green Line, however, it's $2.00; there might be a token
machine or a change machine at Riverside, but don't count on it; i've never
taken the T from Riverside, but the other spots on the D section of the Green
Line that I've been at have neither a token machine nor a change machine, and
the T requires EXACT CHANGE, NO BILLS ACCEPTED!  so be sure you have some
quarters just in case; if you're planning on getting into town a bit before the
show and plan on taking the T around the city for a bit, I suggest you buy some
extra T tokens if you can; you won't save any money, but as it gets later in
the day you'll save yourself the time of waiting in line

anyway, once you're on the T, remember that you want either the Symphony stop
on the E section of the Green Line, or the Mass Ave stop on the Orange Line;
from Riverside, take the T INBOUND until Copley, and then get on an E train
(be sure it says "E") and go OUTBOUND for 2 stops, until Symphony; from any
other starting point, just look at a T map; they're in all the stations and
all the cars

once you get off the T, follow the map jeff posted; you're pretty close by

The last trains leave downtown at 2:30 AM on new year's, and service is free
after 10 PM.  And if you want to find a cab after the show, to quote the
Phoenix, "early in 1993 it may be futile, but later in the morning you'll
probably be able to reach Andrew Cab (268-4548), Boston Cab (536-5010),
Checker Taxi (536-7000), Independent Taxi Operations (426-8700), Red Cab
(734-5000), or Town Taxi (536-5000)."

If you have the time, I advise that you get into Boston a bit early and enjoy
some of the First Night activities.  There's plenty of stuff going on
throughout the day, starting at 1 PM.  Outdoor events are free (I think), and a
$10 First Night button gets you admission to all indoor events.  Indoor events
are on a first-come/first-seated basis.  Thru Dec. 30, buttons are available at
stores throughout the area.  On Dec. 31, buttons are available from 10 AM to 11
PM at the Button and Information Trolleys located at Copley Square, Park
Street, Boylston Street (near Arlington), MacArthur Mall on Boston Common, and
City Hall Plaza, and from 1 to 11 PM at the Hynes Convention Center.  You can
also get them thru TicketBastards (with an additional "service charge"), but I
won't bother with that info.

There's an insert about First Night with a schedule, map, etc. in this week's
Boston Phoenix (the local "happenings" paper), and I'm sure they'll be
something in the Dec. 31 Boston Globe, if you're interested.

One final word of warning - remember that public consumption of alcohol is
illegal, and it would sure be a bummer to spend new year's eve in jail
(although maybe we could get Phish to dedicate "Paul and Silas" to you).

Well, that's about all the relevant info I can think of.  I hope somebody
actually makes use of this information, of which chance may be slim,
considering that quite a few people are either off of the net now, or already
on tour.

It looks like a pre-show gathering just isn't going to happen.  I had offered
the idea of the Y, but I'll probably be hanging out at some First Night event
instead.  Our crowd at the Y seems to be somewhere between 15 and 25 people,
but I'm not totally sure.  I guess some other people could come back and hang
out and party with us for a while after the show.  After all, that was the
original idea.  I hope to be wearing a brand, spankin' new, 1993 PhishNet
shirt, assuming I get mine from Matt in Springfield.  After both shows in
Portchester, we kind of ended up with a spontaneous net gathering (larger in
size than most planned gatherings I've been to) right in front of the stage on
Fishman's side.  So, how about we make that a tentative meeting spot for
anybody who feels like saying hi to anyone else right after the show?

well, i think i've taken up enough bandwidth
hope to see y'all there!

- rich

This is the reverse posting (that Rich mentioned) ... I got the following
announcement in the mail today.  I figure that most folks will eventually
get the same thing -- but hey, I'm bored.

- jeff

*snip*

From:
Northeastern University
Matthews Arena
238 St. Botolph St.
Boston, MA 02115

(insert vision of dancing musical notes here)

                        PHISH 
                          & 
                 TEA PARTY PROMOTIONS
                          &
                NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY
                
                     NEW YEAR'S EVE 
                        CONCERT
                         INFO
                        INSIDE

(insert vision of one measure of music here)


Dear Phish Patron,
    We would like to take this opportunity to thank your for purchasing your
Phish concert ticket for December 31, 1992.  As you are aware Boston will be
very busy with New Year's Activities, we strongly encourage you to utilize
public transportation.  In an effort to ensure that your evening at
Northeastern University's arena is enjoyable for both you and our community,
we would like to provide you with the following important guidelines:
    - The Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) will be
      providing public transportation service until 2:30am.
    - Limited free parking has been made available at the Northeastern
      University parking facility located at 795 Columbus Ave.  Parking will
      be available starting at 5pm and all patrons entering the parking
      facility MUST show their concert ticket to gain access.  All patrons
      will be required to vacate the facility by 1:45am.  Any vehicle left
      in the parking facility after 1:45am will be subject to towing.
    - This event is sold out, NO tickets will be available at the door.
    - No food, beverage, coolers, cameras with flashes or alcohol will be
      permitted on the premises of Matthews Arena.
    - The City of Boston fire code states that there is no smoking in any
      Northeastern University facility, any violators of this code will be
      escorted from the building.
    - All patrons will be subject to a search.
    - In an effort to protect you against ticket fraud, all concert tickets
      will be subject to scanning prior to entering Matthews Arena.

These guidelines have been designed to ensure that all patrons have an
enjoyable evening at Northeastern University.  It is our pleasure to bring
in 1993 with you.  On behalf of PHISH, Tea Party Promotions and Northeastern
University, we look forward to a fun & safe new year's eve.

                              HAPPY NEW YEAR!
                              

Local Area Map:
===============
                                        |                       |   ^ To the
                                        |         Symphony      |   | Charles
        Huntington Ave.                 |         Station --> []|     River,
----------------------------------------+-----------------------+---- & Mass
========================================|=======================|==== Pike
        MBTA Green 'E' Line             |                       |
                                        |                       |
    Northeastern U.           YMCA      |    St. Botolph St.    |
      Campus                  ----------+-----------------------|
                                        |  ___________enter__   |     Mass.
                                        |  |                |   | <-- Ave.
                  Gainesborough St. --> |  |   Matthews     |   |
                                        |  |     Arena      |   |
                                        |  |________________|   |
        MBTA Orange Line                                        |
================================================================|==== 
                _________________________________            [  | ] <- Mass.
                |                               |               |      Ave.
                |    Northeastern University    |               |      Stn.
                |       Parking Facility        |               |
                |                               |<-enter        |
                ---------------------------------  here         |
----------------------------------------------------------------+----
    |           Columbus Ave.                                   |
    |                                                           |
    |                                                           |
----+-----------------------------------------------------------+----
    |           Tremont Street                                  |
    \_____                                                      | <-- Mass.
          \____                                                 |     Ave.
               \____                                            |    (still)
                  Melnea Cass Blbd.                             |
                                \______                         |
                                       \______                  |
                                              \______           |
                                                     \__________|
                                                                |

                                                                
Directions to the Northeastern University Parking Facility:
===========================================================

From the North:  Route I-93/Rt. 1:
----------------------------------
At the merge with route 3, (Southeast Expressway) take the "Storrow Drive"
exit and proceed to the "Fenway" exit, follow signs for "Boylston St.
inbound"; bear right at "Westland Avenue" which leads to Massachusetts
Avenue.  Turn right onto Massachusetts Ave. and proceed to the third set of
traffic lights and turn right onto Columbus Avenue.  The parking garage is
approximately one-quarter mile on your right, 795 Columbus Avenue.

From the West:  Route 90 (Mass Pike - toll road):
-------------------------------------------------
Take the "Copley Square" exit (#22); bear right and turn right onto
Dartmouth Street.  Take the next right which is Columbus Ave. and proceed
approx. one mile to the Northeastern University Parking Garage, 795 Columbus
Avenue.

Route 9 (inbound):
------------------
Proceed inbound on rt. 9 East which becomes Huntington Ave.  Continue on
Huntington Ave. and turn right onto Ruggles Street.  Turn left onto Tremont
St.  Go one block, turn left onto Melnea Cass Blvd., and right onto Columbus
Ave.  The garage is two blocks on the left, 795 Columbus Avenue.

From the South:  Route 3 (Southeast Expressway):
------------------------------------------------
Take rt. 93 North, and exit at "Massachusetts Avenue" (#18), at the bottom
of the ramp proceed straight onto Melnea Cass Blvd.  Continue for approx.
two miles to Tremont St.  Cross Tremont St. and turn right onto Columbus
Ave.  The parking Garage is on the left, [once again] 795 Columbus Avenue.


                            HAPPY NEW YEAR!
                             GOOD BYE 1992
                              HELLO 1993

    What are the set timings for your average Phish show. Used to be
    able to get away with 4 to 4 1/2 hours of tape. What are they 
    running nowadays?
    
    ger

    re .-1
    
    WBCN is advertising ". . . all four hours of it," fwiw.
    
    Just to prove how lame I've become, I'd rather listen to it in my
    living room than go to the show.  :-)
    
    Jamie

    FWIW, I figured NYE = 3 sets = 4 hours. :-) What I want to know is if
    they still play 3 sets NEmore on a regular night such as Springfield
    tomorrow. Not that it matters much, I'll bring extra tape anyways.

Nah - you don't have to prove that to me Jamie. :-) :-)

    re: sets
    
    Nevermind. I fired up an arcane version of vnews and peeked in on
    rec.music.phish to get last night's list. 2 sets, 2 song encore. 
    No set timings but probably 3 hours is enough to cover it given 
    that 3 sets run 4 hours.
    
    ger_who_also_noticed_his_net.sig_is_from_4_home_addresses_ago_:-)

Hey Ger... ...and any other Watchful Hosemasters ;-)

Phish sets last 80-100 minutes.  No set has EVER been longer than 100
minutes as far as I know.  Most shows (i.e. Springfield) are two sets long.
I'm bringing two 120's 8-)

Special shows (i.e. NYE) have three sets.  Last year's NYE set 1 fit on a
90, and sets 2/3 fit on a 120.  My guess is that each NYE set will probably
be 60-75 minutes long, but I'm bringing three 120's just in case... ...I can
always dub down later.

Oh yeah one more thing.......don't forget yer costume!

- jeff

    re: -.1
    
    Er, actually, my net.sig was from *5* home address ago. 
    I forgot one. :-) I had to delete my newsrc.newsrc file 
    cuz vnews wants me to determine (NOW, DAMMIT! :-) if I 
    want to add the 23 Bazillion new conferences added since 
    then. Anyone got an up-to-date newsrc file with most of 
    the confences de-selected?
    
    ger

    I'm wearing a holographic top hat for NYE. Didn't know it
    was a costume party.
    
    ger

<- re

It's not OFFICIALLY a costume party, but in years past the band has put
'costume optional' and 'appropriate attire suggested' on their NYE
announcements.  They'll be dressed up in wacky outfits -- so why shouldn't
we?  I have to live up to my personal name at some point... ;-)

re: taping Phish

FYI, Set 2 in Albany was 95 minutes long... 

- jeff

    re: 237.141 by SUBPAC::MAGGARD 
    
    >and don't forget yer noise maker! 
    
    Noise maker? I guess yer planning on patching into someone else, then? :-)
    
    re: costume
    
    Great. Not much time to come up with a costume. Hmmm.. BIG diaper
    and a sash that says 1993? Nah, it's been done before. :-)
    
    ger

Due to an unattended terminal at some NY university, I have one extra ticket
for the NYE show.  I figured on offering it here first...  I got it directly
from TicketMaster for $25.  I work at HLO.


re: costumes

Hey Ger, is that a hallucination on your head or are you just happy to see
me!?  ;-)


- jeff

re                      <<< Note 237.139 by SCOONR::GLADU >>>

>    Er, actually, my net.sig was from *5* home address ago. 
>    I forgot one. :-) I had to delete my newsrc.newsrc file 
>    cuz vnews wants me to determine (NOW, DAMMIT! :-) if I 
>    want to add the 23 Bazillion new conferences added since 
>    then. Anyone got an up-to-date newsrc file with most of 
>    the confences de-selected?
    
GerG;

Edit the newsrc.newsrc file ... each newsgroup has a line with its
name followed by either a "!" or a ":" - the "!" indicates that you do
not subscribe to the newsgroup; the ":" indicates that you do. 

- DC

    Ok, right, edit a 1500 line file. :-)
    
    lazybonesG

What I do is do a global replace of all ":" to "!", then search out
the newsgroups I want and substitute the "!" with a ":" ... if you
know the newsgroups you want ;^) it's pretty quick.

- DC

Ger, I tried to explain this to you before. You must get the updated version 
of Vnews.exe in order to accomodate the increased number of newsgroups 
available. 2.9o is the latest as of about a month ago. Any version prior will 
not work.


execute this, Dammit.

$!
$! Get the VNEWS distribution files:
$! P1 = N indicates that documentation should not be copied
$! P2 = N indicates that the VNEWS.COM should not be copied
$!
$ emacs = ""
$ Read/Prompt="Do you want the EMACS mlisp code [N]? " SYS$Command emacs
$ if emacs .eqs. "" then emacs = "n"
$!
$ Doc = ""
$ if p1 .eqs. "" Then -
	Read/Prompt="Do you want the documentation [N]? " SYS$Command P1
$!
$ if P1 Then Doc = ",vnews.doc,vnews.ps"
$!
$ if f$search( "vnews.com") .eqs. "" then p2 = "Y"	! VNEWS.COM req.
$ if P2 .eqs. "" Then -
	Read/Prompt="Do you want the new VNEWS.COM [N]? " SYS$Command P2
$!
$ vnews = ""
$ if P2 Then vnews = ",VNEWS.COM"
$!
$ Dist_loc = "CloVAX""""::Disk$User1:[coburn.vnews_dist]"
$!
$ notify = ""
$ spool = ""
$ if f$search( "sys$system:ftsvcli.exe" ) .nes. "" .or. -
     f$search( "sys$system:ftsv$cli.exe" ) .nes. "" then $ spool = "spool"
$ if spool .nes. "" then notify = "/notify=broadcast"
$!
$ v = f$verify(1)
$ if emacs then -
  'spool' copy 'notify' 'Dist_loc'EMACS.STUFF * 
$ 'spool' copy 'notify' 'Dist_loc'code.olb,changes.mem * 
$ 'spool' copy 'notify' 'Dist_loc'vnews_cld_install.com,link-vnews.com,-
vnews.cld'vnews''doc' *
$ v = f$verify(v)
$!
$ if spool .eqs. "" then goto GET_OUT_OF_HERE
$ write sys$output ""
$ write sys$output "Spool (ftsv) is being used to copy the files. You will be"
$ write sys$output "notified by a broadcast message when the copy is complete."
$!
$GET_OUT_OF_HERE:
$ write sys$output ""
$ write sys$output "When the files have been copied you should"
$ write sys$output "execute LINK-VNEWS.COM to create VNEWS.EXE"
$ if vnews .nes. "" 
$ then
$   write sys$output "Then you will need to edit VNEWS.COM and"
$   write sys$output "execute it to enable VNEWS (see comments)."
$ EndIf
$ write sys$output ""
$! write sys$output "You can use VNEWS_CLD_INSTALL.COM to install"
$! write sys$output "the VNEWS command into the system DCLTABLES."
$! write sys$output ""
$ exit

Thanks Fog ...I was a bit bummed that I was only able to subscribe
to 3,999 newsgroups.

- dc ;^)

most Phish sets fit on a 90 minute, but bring a 100 (or 120, if you're DAT)
just in case; i've never heard of a greater than 100 minute set (but i think
one of the portchester sets came close)

most shows are 2 sets; the only 3 set show i've been to was Amy's Farm
(8/3/91), and the Helping Phriendly Book (the Phish equivalent of DeadBase)
only lists 15 ever (although it's still a quite incomplete reference for the
early days); anyway, expect a 3 set show for nye, but don't count on it for
most other shows

re: costume

the past 2 nye shows were billed as "creative formal attire suggested", but
that's not the case this year; so i don't know if the band will bother with
costumes or not; the show i went to (2 yrs ago) had a lot of people in costume,
but definitely not the majority

- rich

> but that's not the case this year ...


yabbut, don't ya wanna see GerG in a diaper???




- jeff

    No diaper this year, sorry. Too tough to sneak a bottle of champagne
    in a pair of didees. They'll droop. :-) Someone is liable to think I 
    need a change or sumpthin'. :-) Just look for the tapers with the 
    holographic top hats. That'll be us. :-)
    
    ger

    I checked the HPB and have been to 4 of the triple setters listed.
    Could've sworn it was more than that though.
    
    I also have master tapes of 3 (maybe 4 shows) not listed. No surprise
    since I was the only one who taped them. :-) Geez, and I almost gave
    those away. :-) Hope they're not erased.

>Just look for the tapers with the 
>    holographic top hats.

hey man, where can i get one of those?

/r

re: Note 237.153 by ROCK::CAMPR::FROMM 
    
>>holographic top hats.

> hey man, where can i get one of those?

    At your local holographic haberdashery, of course! Alternatively,
    you could try a party supply store. :-)
    

Geezuss!!  you'd think this is the Phish notes file will all these Phish
notes!!!

:-) :-) :-)

re: Note 237.155 by ZENDIA::FERGUSON 
    
>Geezuss!!  you'd think this is the Phish notes file will all these Phish
>notes!!!

    As opposed to what? The Ronnie Earl notes file? :-) :-) :-)
    

    ... Hey, you mean to tell me this *isn't* the Phish notes file ?! ...

- jeff

re                      <<< Note 237.156 by SCOONR::GLADU >>>

>    As opposed to what? The Ronnie Earl notes file? :-) :-) :-)
    

:-) :-)  .... i sorta expected that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


	many smiles as i laugh!!!!!!!!


ps: anyone going to ronnie tomorrow night?  :-) :-)

    hey where's the arlo file?
    
    %^)
    rfb

I've seen a couple reviews of NYE in the Phishnet news that came in over
the weekend, but not much.  I wanted to comment, because I was a little
surprised at this show, and wondered if anyone else was.  This was my third
or fourth show, including last years' NYE in Worcester, which I thoroughly
enjoyed.

But I thought this one sucked.  I liked the first set, but the second set
went downhill and the third set was a complete bore.  I was, however, very
impressed that they managed to keep 6000+ people quite for an a capela 
barbershop quartet....;-)

I really admire Trey's guitar work, but as a storyteller, well, I really
admire his guitar work.  The spaceship story was dull, and endless.  The
chicken-in-a-sling was pointless and the sophomoric cover if Seals and
Crofts was anything but entertaining.  I don't think that getting stoned
with the band between sets qualifies someone to get on stage, even if they
did write some of the songs.  He can't sing.  I could have passed on the
endless Harpua rap too, if they'd played more music.  Or even if they'd
made the intermissions longer...

I thought this might just be me having a bad night, but afterwards I saw
a friend who is a sound engineer for the band, including PoN and the new
CD that's coming out, and he seemed to agree that this show was a let down,
especially compared to last year.

Anyway, it was a big disappointment after a lot of excitement on my part
leading up to it.  My general impression was that of a band in transition
from small clubs to big venues, whose egos have gotten in the way of their
music.   Too bad.  

tim

    I agree. They haven't improved very much at all and their soundman
    and sound system is awful. They're trying to play in large halls
    with a system more appropriate for Chet's Diner. The tapes are
    horrible - and they were made FOB with pretty much the best mics
    available (why they bother to ban FOB taping is beyond me :-). I was
    completely unimpressed in Springfield and didn't really mind losing
    my NYE ticket. :-| 
    
    unimpressedG

Well, the Globe's review was rather beaming, fwiw.

I listened on BCN friday morning. I most impressing thing I heard was what I 
didn't hear: BCN interrupting every 15 seconds with a station ID. That in 
itself made the listening experience worthwhile and enjoyable.

	I taped the FM rebroadcast from BCN on friday, and was 
	pretty psyched with what I heard.  I've only heard a little	
	bit of Phish and I was impressed with some of their stuff,
	particularly when they get out of 5th gear and slow things
	down a bit.  I also got the impression that the space ship
	type of story is to cater to the more electrified minds in
	the audience...

	Ken

    The WBCN rebroadcast was fantastic -- clean sound and no commercials or
    station ids during sets.  The reason for the clean sound was apparent
    when they credited WGBH's mobile studio for the recording.
    
    Tim, if you're not into sophomoric humor, you aren't into Phish.  :-)
    
    Ger . . . it still pains me to think about the time I forgot I bought
    Garcia Band tickets and didn't go to the show.  I found them months
    later.
    
    Jamie

    Well i'm glad Shakedown Street was a better time on NYE than Phish! 
    After trying my Raspberry Ale, Cherries in the Snow and Oatmeal Stout,
    (several of them, although they could've used another few days in the
    bottle) Patty and I met a few deadfriends at Laura Bells, local bar
    down the street from me (lousy beer, stuck with Mich Dark all nite
    long, UGH!) and boogied for 3 sets well into the wee hours of the
    morn... (actually the manager told us to "get a room" 'bout 2 AM) %^)
    The new guitar player does a grate Bobby! and only one damn dylan tune!
    %^)
    
    rfb

    
    NYE was my first "full length" Phish show and I pretty much liked it!
    The sound was horrible though, which is why I was so disinterested
    in those stories....  It was killing my ears!   They certainly are a
    strange crew ;-)  And I laughed a lot... but by the end of the show
    I had seen about enough for one night.  
    
    I wasn't disappointed....  but I'll take the Dead anyday, thankyou!  ;-)
    
    MJ

I agree, MJ.  It's a shame you didn't see them a year ago - that was one
hot show - no bullshit with chickens suits and lawnmowers, and endless
ramblings instead of music.  Like I've said many times before, they're
very talented musicians.  They're not very talented comedians.  I must be 
getting old - all that bullshit just ruins the mood for me. ...and they're
a great live band, when they get around to it.

They appear to have more lights than before, but the same stage background,
and sound system, but I'm not sure about that.  The New Aud had a problem
with ventilation last year, even with a smaller crowd.  I recall several 
trips to the door to gasp for oxygen with the Worcester Police - no such 
problem this time.

I did listen to the 'BCN broadcast - the first set anyway - and it sounded
very clean.  Naturally, it failed to capture the natural acoustics of the
hockey rink venue. ;-)

GerG - no wonder I didn't see you in the crowd - I was looking around for
familiar faces and didn't see any, except that guy from NY who does some of
their studio work, and who was in the middle of the tapers' pit.

I would have preferred that they started late (like they usually do) and
left out the crap.  Too bad.  I was really psyched.  I should have gone to
Sir Morgan's instead.

tim

    	Your review, Tim, certainly doesn't leave me disappointed in having
    not even tried for tickets. But, after ringing in the new year at a
    familiar club, in a familiar city, with a familiar band, I wouldn't
    have had regrets if you reviews were overwhelmingly positive.
    
    	I won't go into it deeply in this wrong note, but Slipkont was a
    great way to ring in the new year. 1993 opened on a Shakedown, what a
    great party!
    
    
    	Geoff
    

    I for one had a grate time NYE!!! Yes, it was rather corny with that
    bird floating 'round the stage (I found it quite amusing :^) but I 
    didn't think that that detracted them at all from some rilly nice
    jamming.
    
    The Good Times, Bad Times was as good a version as I'll ever hear :^)
    
    And boy, for a monster, I thought he sang rather well!!!!
    
    And thanx to Rich F. for helping out with the overnite situation!!
    
    Happy New Year Everyone!!!!
    
    peace,Andy

There were tons of people standing outside the venue THursday night (including
*many* people looking for extras), but the actual line to get in was reasonably
small.  My housemate and I started talking to a guy who came up from Darien, CT
without a ticket.  While talking to him, 3 guys in their mid 20's approached
and offered him a ticket for $50.  The guy holding the ticket looked pretty
somber, like he was a scalper rather than a true fan.  He hardly looked up at
all.  I thought for sure he was trying to get rid of a counterfeit.  Well, the
guy from CT bought the ticket, and immediately asked to compare it to mine. 
The ticket was a phone charge ticket, obvious from the color and font of the
lettering.  It looked pretty legit, including the red serial number on the
back, except the back did not have the "tm" watermark that can be clearly seen
on real tickets if you catch the light at the correct angle.  We offered to go
inside with me in front and Rich behind him to give somce semblance of
grouping.  Well, after a suprisingly thorough search of our jacket pockets, the
ticket "scanner" (I called it the "phaser") was pulled out.   At that point I
thought the guy was out of luck but they scanned his ticket and let him pass. 
I was happy for him, and so was he!

As far as the show goes, my thoughts are not quite as caustic as Tim's.  The
sound definitely sucked from where I was (rear left).  The worst part was the
unintelligible vocals.  It was definitely the acoustics since the radio
broadcast the next day was quite clear.  I was towards the back since I didn't
want to deal with the tremendous crowds on the floor and in the seats close up. 
We had plenty of empty seats around us, and it was not too hot.  My 2
housemates were seeing their first show, and Rich commented that they sounded
like an endlessly-jamming 60's band.  He also compared them to the Amboy Dukes
(!).  But he did like them. :-)

I had only heard Good Times Bad Times on tape so it was nice to hear it live. 
The Henrix tune was also great as it is one of my favorites.  My housemates
recognized Diamond Girl as soon as it started.  That was impressive to me. 
Thanks for the Seals and Crofts info, I couldn't remember who did it.

The only people I bumped into were 2 guys from the Phish Net, and MJ and
Christine, who provided me with new year's eve hugs.

I have a question about the WBCN broadcast: did they skip a set, or did they
start before 1 pm?  I woke up at 2 pm and I caught the last 25 minutes of the
second set, then the third set.  They must have started at 12 (I heard it was
to be 1 pm).

happy new year,

adam

    The rebroadcast was at noon.

yes, the antics were a bit overdone on nye, but hey, that's part of what phish
is all about (and part of it was, i think, because it was nye; i've never
seen someone hover above the stage in a chicken suit before); i thought the
stories during Mockingbird and Harpua were quite interesting - too bad the
vocals were so hard to hear at the show

as for the Dude of Life, true, he can't sing for shit, but i don't mind
seeing him every once in a while (although i think i'd get really sick of
him if he were a permanent member of the band)

disregarding the lousy acoustics, i thought the show was fine musically;
nothing spectacular, and no big surprises, but a good show nonetheless; despite
assurances that they were going to bring back some older song, it never
happened; i guess since they played "Timber Ho!" the night before, they
didn't feel like playing any more older tunes; if they continue to play such
large venues (which i hope they don't), they will need to get a better sound
system

i ran into numerous people from the Net, but this was probably the first show
that i've been to in which there were numerous people that i knew were there
that i didn't run into; a 6,000 person crowd gets a little getting used to

lots of room to dance all the way back on the floor, a moderate amount of room
to move around on the floor halfway between the stage and the soundboard (the
two spots i alternated between); i briefly went up to the front row between
sets 1 and 2 to chat with some friends, but it was way too crowded so i
headed farther back; besides, i got the chance to be in the front row the
day before, when it wasn't so crowded

even more incredible than the fact that they sang a song a capella, a
microphona, to a crowd of 6,000 people was the fact that they were able to
get 6,000 people at 1 AM on new year's eve to be completely silent (and the
one moron near us who screamed out "I love you Page!" didn't get picked
up by the mics that taped the BCN broadcast)

yes adam, the broadcast started at 12; i got sets 2 and 3 on tape (which sound
infinitely better than the audience tapes made at the show), but i was still
returning home when set 1 started

- rich

    re: Note 237.172 by ROCK::CAMPR::FROMM 

    >i've never seen someone hover above the stage in a chicken suit before); 
    
    I have - Bill Graham, NYE 1989. :-)
    
    
    >if they continue to play such large venues (which i hope they don't), 
    >they will need to get a better sound system
    
    They should be able to afford one since the tickets are 4 times what
    they used to cost and they're playing to 60 times as many people. :-/
    Some of the better tapes I've made of them were when they used the
    house system instead of their own.
    
    ger

re: NYE and Springfield

As a self-proclaimed Phishhead 8-) I can say that I didn't like either of
these shows as much as the shows I've seen in smaller venues.  Phish just
isn't a good 'big-venue' live band.  Their bizarre antics work better in
clubs, where there's more band<->crowd interaction.  Their sound system
sucks, bigtime!

This is the first year that they've regularly played venues bigger than 500
seats -- and they can't seem to handle the big venue scene yet.  Here's to
hoping that their shows, sound, and lights will improve soon.  

They've also started varying their live material quite a bit.  They used to
create a mood that would carry at least through a set, if not the entire
show.  Now they just play random songs, and it's harder to get into that
super-groove like I once could... ...maybe I'm just getting old   ;-)

- jeff

     Well, it was only my 2nd Phish show (not counting when they opened
    for Santana, that was a tease) and the sound was admittedly awful, but
    I had a great time....I'm not about to become a major Phishhead or 
    anything like that, but those guys take their music places that are
    very pleasureable to my head (if you know what I mean :-)...and
    as far as the stories go, Phish to me is like Jerry Garcia meets
    Frank Zappa, so I don't try to make sense out of any of it and just
    enjoy watching everyone else around me try to....Its pretty funny
    knowing you're probably one of the oldest people in there as you
    watch 5990+ people bouncing up and down.... :-)
    
       I think I'd still choose a dead show over a Phish show, but I'll
    go see Phish again ( IMHO...Dead=spacey...Phish=intensity)
    
              :-) DaveB

    
    My 2 cents on Phish:
    
     The Last time I saw them was at the WBCN concert at the Garden,
    and I was really bored and unimpressed, thought the sound sucked
    as well....my ears were crackling.
    
     Besides that time, I've enjoyed them in the past...Amy's Farm, Umass,
    Sommerville, were all fun, especially Amy's farm. I also saw them jam
    with Santana at the Concord Pavillon (missed their set) and loved it,
    I just like to see Trey wail.....I could do without the goofy lyrics.
    
    
    Sean

Phish Tour Dates!  ***  February, 1993

February
========
3: Portland Expo, Portland, Maine
239 Park Avenue, Portland, Maine -- (800) 828-7080
(on sale 1/8 @ Ticketpro)

4: Performing Arts Center, Providence, Rhode Island
220 Weybosset, Providence, Rhode Island -- (401) 421-ARTS
(on sale 1/9 @ box office & Ticketmaster)

5,6: Roseland, New York, New York
239 W. 52nd Street, New York, New York -- (212) 247-0200
(on sale 1/8 @ Ticketmaster & Bleeker Bob's)

7: Lisner Auditorium, Washington, DC 
730 21st Street NW, Washington, DC -- (202) 994-6800
(on sale 1/8 @ box office & Ticketmaster)

9: Auditorium Theatre, Rochester, New York
875 E Main Street, Rochester, New York -- (716) 325-7760 
(on sale 1/16 @ box office, Ticketmaster & Ticket Express)  

10: Smith Opera House, Geneva, New York 
82 Seneca, Geneva, New York -- (315) 781-5483 or (315) 789-2221
(on sale tba after 1/8 @ box office, Hobart and William Smith Student Union)

11: Haas Center for the Arts, Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania   
Bloomsburg University, Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania -- (717) 389-4346
(on sale 1/25 @ Kher Union, Pro Audio & Mugsy's Records)

12: Mid Hudson Civic Center, Poughkeepsie, New York 
1 Civic Center Plaza, Poughkeepsie, New York -- (914) 454-9800
(on sale 1/16 @ box office & Ticketmaster)

13: Bob Carpenter Center, Newark, Delaware
University of Delaware, Newark, Delaware -- (302) 831-4016
(on sale tba after 1/8 @ Ticketmaster)

15: UNC Memorial Hall, Chapel Hill, North Carolina
Cameron Avenue, UNC, Chapel Hill, North Carolina -- (919) 962-1449
(on sale 1/15 @ Carolina box office, Schoolkids Records, Poindexter Records
& The Record Exchange)

17: Benton Convention Center, Winston-Salem, North Carolina
301 W. Fifth Street, Winston-Salem, North Carolina -- (919) 748-1064
(on sale 1/15 @ Record Exchange [several locations] and Ziggy's box office)

18: The Electric Ballroom, Knoxville, Tennessee
1211 Western Avenue, Knoxville, Tennessee -- (615) 525-6724
(1/15 @ Cat's Records, Lynn's Disc & Dat, Raven Records, Disc Exchange)

19,20: The Roxy Theatre, Atlanta, Georgia
3110 Roswell Road, Atlanta, Georgia -- (404) 233-7699
(on sale 1/15 @ Ticketmaster & Variety Playhouse box office)

22: The Moon, Tallahassee, Florida
1105 E. Lafayette Street, Tallahassee, Florida -- (904) 878-6900
(on sale 1/8 @ box office) **this show is 18+; all others are all ages.

23: The Edge, Orlando, Florida
100 West Livingston, Orlando, Florida -- (407) 426-9166
(on sale 1/15 @ Ticketmaster)

25: Cameo Theatre, Miami Beach, Florida
1445 Washington Avenue, Miami Beach, Florida -- (305) 673-9787
(on sale 1/15 @ box office & Ticketmaster)

26: Ritz Theatre, Tampa, Florida
1503 E. Seventh Avenue, Tampa, Florida -- (813) 247-3319
(on sale 1/8 @ Ticketmaster, Vinyl Fever, Record Exchange, Daddy Cool)

27: Florida Theatre, Gainesville, Florida
233 West University Avenue, Gainesville, Florida -- (407) 375-7361
(1/8 @ Ticketmaster, Hyde n Zeke's, Yesterday & Today, Schoolkids, Lido)


Phish News
==========
     "The dates on this newsletter are for the first month of a North
American tour that will continue into early May.  The next newsletter will be
mailed in late January and will hopefully contain the remainder of the tour. 
Our new album for Elektra, Rift, is being shipped to stores on Jan. 29th and
should be available by Feb. 3rd.  Tentative tour plans beyond May include
another trip to Europe from late June to mid July and a US headline tour in
August and early September featuring selected outdoor venues throughout the
country.  After that, we'll probably spend the fall working on another album
for 1994.
     "Tickets, etc.:  As our fan base grows, we are faced with new problems
that don't have easy solutions.  A number of shows this fall sold out very
quickly, and with these sell-outs came a number of unfortunate situations. 
Tickets for several shows were available at high prices through `ticket
brokers'.  Purchasing tickets from these agencies will only fuel them to
drive the prices up and try to get more tickets the next time we play in the
area.  The only way to eliminate this problem is to refrain from purchasing
tickets from them.  If is a supply and demand situation and if they feel
there is no demand, they won't bother with us.  Linked to the brokers problem
is the issue of counterfeit tickets.  Counterfeit tickets have been
discovered at several shows, often being sold right outside the venues. 
These tickets may appear to be good imitations, but most ticket takers can
easily distinguish between real and fake tickets.  We urge you not to
purchase tickets from anywhere or anyone except from an authorized ticket
outlet.  If you do so, you will be contributing to a growing problem that
casts an ugly light on an otherwise positive situation.  If we all cooperate
now, we can nip this problem in the bud before it gets out of hand.  We are
currently looking into alternative ticketing situations (mail order, etc...)
to help make tickets more available to fans.
     "If your address changes (or if you're not yet on the mailing list)
please write us at: Phish, 57 Harvard Street #2, Waltham, MA  02154 and
notify us of your (new) address.  Please send all address changes on
postcards as a way to save paper."

Phish Hotline:  (617) 647-5521

[email protected] (Kurt Overberg) writes:

>The other night I was 
>feverishly putting together the tree info, listening to WBCN, and
>it turns out that they are going to re-re-broadcast the NYE phish
>concert!

>The date of the re-re-broadcast is January 31st, 8:00 pm to Midnight.

    
    Any DECheads going to see PHISH tonight? I need (please) directions
    from I95...I'm also looking for a hotel/motel nearby.
    
    Thanks,
    Steve-O_smiling_cuz_he's_PHISHing_tonight_and_SKIING_tomorrow!!!

    Last night at midnight WCGY, 93.7 FM, broadcast the new Phish CD in it's 
    entirety, sans commercial interruptions...I wasn't up late enough to
    hear it all, but I got most of it on one side of a 100minute tape...I
    like it - fun stuff.  I guess it just went on sale too...
    
    tim

    Yeah, I saw in it Newbury Comics yesterday, either 11.98 or 12.98 on
    sale.  Didn't know they had a new one, but usually I'm not up on 
    that stuff unless it's a new Dead album.  Go figger! ;-)  
    
    PeterT

A lunch, I ran across "A Picture of Nectar" in a cutout bin in, of all
places, Spags' Schoolhouse. They've also supplemented their Dead tee shirt
selection, which I've mentioned in here before, upscaling it to nice
screen/tie dye combos which run $18.99. One carries an NYE '92 motif, and one
is an adaptation of the dead-ski theme and is quite nice. 

    PHISH was incredible last night!!!!
    Anyone else go??
    
    NYC really isn't that long of a drive...
    
    /jef

>     PHISH was incredible last night!!!!

Providence was okay, 'cept for the horrendously slow security at the door --
I almost didn't get my deck set up in time... ...almost ;-)

If you thought the show at Providence was good, you should've been to
Roseland.  Saturday's show was the best Phish experience I've had ;-)

The Power Jam '93 at The Ritz after Friday's show was also great!  John
Popper, Noel Redding, and a pile of other famous folks...


- jeff_back_from_phishin'

    I just read an article in People Mag. about Phish...
    rfb (duh, where have you been?)

i thought thursday's show was just sort of okay, but this past weekend was
incredible; get a load of this:

friday: phish @ roseland; first Punch You In The Eye in quite some time (4 or
5 years, perhaps?); great show

friday late: power jam @ the ritz, with trey and mike from phish sitting in
towards the end; a nice highlight was a vocal jam with trey and popper
during Gloria

saturday: phish @ roseland again; with john popper sitting in towards the end,
and noel redding taking mike's place on bass for the Fire encore (mike went
over and played the organ); popper added a great finishing touch to Phish's
sound; this show was even better than friday

saturday late: shockra (another amazing band from burlington) @ the wetlands,
with fish making a brief guest appearance playing vacuum

4 shows in 2 nights - i need a rest

- rich

p.s. page now has a baby grand piano instead of the electric one

p.p.s. there were some really in depth interviews with trey and mike recently
posted on the PhishNet; they make for some pretty interesting reading; e-mail
me if you want a copy

    
    Hey Springs Phish Heads,
     
    Tickets are on sale NOW for Phish
    March 9, 1993
    Pikes Peak Center 
    Colo Spgs.
    
    I just got Row C Orchestra at Sound Warehouse.
    I'd suggest you get them soon.
    
    -Mark
    

    
    On yeah,
     
    Tickets are $12.00 + 2.25 service charge.
    
    Enjoy
    

Hey Mark,

What's the seating capacity of that venue at Pikes Peak?

Just curious,

tim

    
    Hey Tim,
      I think around 2500-3000.  Just a swag.   There isn't a bad seat 
    in the house.
    
    	Mark 

    For the rest of you Southern/Western Fluffheads... ...here's the tour
    schedule, brought to by your official keeper of The Phish.Net Tour
    Phile.  ;-)

    
    - fluffhead_jeff_%-)


****************

Last Updated: 2 February 1993
Info Updated: February ticket availability.
              March/April show and on-sale dates from the Hotline.


Latest info from the Phish Hotline (617-647-5521) as of 1 February 1993:
========================================================================
Message recorded 2-1-93:  March, April tour/on-sale dates (see below).
Scalped tickets are most likely *fakes*, don't waste your money on them!

Message recorded 1-7-93:  All February shows are all ages shows except for
the February 22nd show at the Moon in Tallahassee, FL which is 18+.  No more
phish-update mailing list addresses will be accepted over the hotline.  To
get the phish-update snail-mail newsletter, mail your name and address on a
post card (save the trees) to the following address:  
    Phish
    57 Harvard St. #2
    Waltham, MA 02154


Ticket Agencies & Numbers:
==========================
New York City:  TicketMaster    212-307-7171
Binghamton:     TicketMaster    607-722-7272
Philadelphia:   TicketMaster    215-336-2000
Battle Creek:   TicketMaster    616-963-8080
Detroit:        TicketMaster    313-645-6666
Columbus, OH:   TicketMaster    614-431-3600
Cincinatti:     TicketMaster    513-749-4949
Boston:         TicketMaster    617-931-2000
Washington DC:  TicketMaster    410-481-7328, 202-432-7328
Providence RI:  TicketMaster    401-331-2211
Boston:         TicketPro       800-828-7080
Bay Area:       Bass            510-762-BASS
Colorado        TicketMaster    303-290-8497


Phish Tour Dates!  ***  February, March, and April 1993:
========================================================

February:
---------
12: Mid Hudson Civic Center, Poughkeepsie, New York
1 Civic Center Plaza, Poughkeepsie, New York -- (914) 454-9800
General Admission
(on sale 1/16 @ box office & Ticketmaster)
(tix still available as of Feb. 1st)

13: Bob Carpenter Center, Newark, Delaware
University of Delaware, Newark, Delaware -- (302) 831-4016
General Admission
(on sale @ Ticketmaster)
(tix still available as of Feb. 1st)

15: UNC Memorial Hall, Chapel Hill, North Carolina
Cameron Avenue, UNC, Chapel Hill, North Carolina -- (919) 962-1449
General Admission
(on sale @ Carolina box office, Schoolkids Records, Poindexter Records & The
Record Exchange) 
(close to being sold out as of Feb. 1st)

17: Benton Convention Center, Winston-Salem, North Carolina
301 W. Fifth Street, Winston-Salem, North Carolina -- (919) 748-1064
General Admission
(on sale @ Record Exchange [several locations] and Ziggy's box office)
(tix still available as of Feb. 1st)

18: The Electric Ballroom, Knoxville, Tennessee
1211 Western Avenue, Knoxville, Tennessee -- (615) 525-6724
General Admission
(on sale @ Cat's Records, Lynn's Disc & Dat, Raven Records, Disc Exchange)
(close to being sold out as of Feb. 1st)

19,20,21: The Roxy Theatre, Atlanta, Georgia
3110 Roswell Road, Atlanta, Georgia -- (404) 233-7699
General Admission
(both shows are SOLD OUT)

*****
*****
*****
21st  SHOW ADDED TO THE ROXY
General Admission
(tix still available as of Feb. 1st)
*****
*****
*****

22: The Moon, Tallahassee, Florida
1105 E. Lafayette Street, Tallahassee, Florida -- (904) 878-6900
General Admission
**this show is 18+
(on sale @ box office) 
(tix still available as of Feb. 1st)

23: The Edge, Orlando, Florida
100 West Livingston, Orlando, Florida -- (407) 426-9166
General Admission
(on sale @ Ticketmaster)
(tix still available as of Feb. 1st)

25: Cameo Theatre, Miami Beach, Florida
1445 Washington Avenue, Miami Beach, Florida -- (305) 673-9787
(on sale @ box office & Ticketmaster)
(tix still available as of Feb. 1st)

26: Ritz Theatre, Tampa, Florida
1503 E. Seventh Avenue, Tampa, Florida -- (813) 247-3319
(on sale @ Ticketmaster, Vinyl Fever, Record Exchange, Daddy Cool)
(tix still available as of Feb. 1st)

27: Florida Theatre, Gainesville, Florida
233 West University Avenue, Gainesville, Florida -- (407) 375-7361
(on sale @ Ticketmaster, Hyde n Zeke's, Yesterday & Today, Schoolkids, Lido)
(tix still available as of Feb. 1st)


MARCH:
------
2,3:  Tipitina's, New Orleans, Louisiana
General Admission
Tickets on sale now
    
5: Deep Elem Lodge?/Live?, Dallas, Texas
General Admission
Tixets on sale now

6: Liberty Lunch, Austin, Texas
General Admission
Tickets on sale now

8: Sweeney Center, Santa Fe, New Mexico
General Admission
Tickets on sale Feb. 12th

9: Pike's Peak Center, Colorado Springs, Colorado
Reserved Seats
Tickets on sale Feb. 12th

12: Daubson Arena, Vail, Colorado
General Admission
Tickets on sale Feb. 12th

13:  Colorado University Field House, U of Colorado,  Boulder, Colorado
General Admission
Tickets go on sale Feb. 12th
    
14:  Western State College Gym, Gunnison, Colorado
General Admission
Tickets go on sale Feb. 12th
    
16: Celebrity Theater, Pheonix, Arizona
Tickets go on sale Feb. 13

17: The Palace, Hollywood California
Tickets go on sale Feb. 13
(Phish might add a show on the 18th if tickets sell well)

19: Orton Center Theater, University of Redlands Campus, 
Redlands, California
no on sale date yet (check hotline)

21: Ventura Concert Theater, Ventura, California
Tickets go on sale Feb. 12th
    
22: Crest Theater, Sacramento, California
Tickets go on sale Feb. 14th

March:
------
24: Luther Burbank Center, Santa Rosa, California
Tix: $17.50 (+$4 BASS charge).
Tickets are on sale now

25: Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium, Santa Cruz, California
Tickets go on sale February 14th

26,27: The Warfield Theater, San Francisco, California
General Admission
Tickets go on sale Feb 14th

28: Humbolt State University East Gym, Humbolt campus
Arcata, California
General admission
Tickets go on sale March 1st

30: Hilton Ballroom, Eugene, Oregon
General admission
Tickets go on sale Feb. 19th

31, April 1: Roseland theater, Portland, Oregon
General Admission
Tix: $15 + $1 service charge from Fred Meyer Fastix (area code?)-224-8499
Tickets on sale NOW


April:
------

1:  Roseland Theater, Portland, Oregon
General Admission
Tix: $15 + $1 service charge from Fred Meyer Fastix (area code?)-224-8499
Tickets on sale NOW
    
2:  Mt. Baker Theater, Bellingham, Washington
Tickets go on sale Feb. 19th
    
3: 86th Street Music Hall, Vancouver, British Columbia
Tickets on sale Feb. 20th
    
5: Hub Ballroom, U of Washington Campus, Seattle, Washington
General Admission
Tickets go on sale Feb. 19th


Other non-hotliine announcements, rumors, *UN*-confirmed shows:  
(note: if I haven't heard it on the hotline, it ain't confirmed!)
=================================================================

[none]

=========================================
        End of Phish-Tour-Info
=========================================

    Just in case y'all're interested... here's the latest Phish tour info.
    
    - jeff



==========================================================================
                        The Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

Last Updated: 5 March 1993
Info Updated: April/May tour dates.


Latest info from the Phish Hotline (617-647-5521) as of 3 March 1993:
=====================================================================
Message recorded 3-3-93:  March, April, and May tour/on-sale dates (see
below).  Scalped tickets are most likely *fakes*, don't waste your money on
them!

Message recorded 1-7-93:  No more phish-update mailing list addresses will
be accepted over the hotline.  To get the phish-update snail-mail
newsletter, mail your name and address on a POST-CARD (save the trees!) to
the following address:  

    Phish
    57 Harvard St. #2
    Waltham, MA 02154


Ticket Agencies & Numbers:
==========================
New York City:  TicketMaster    212-307-7171
Binghamton:     TicketMaster    607-722-7272
Philadelphia:   TicketMaster    215-336-2000
Battle Creek:   TicketMaster    616-963-8080
Detroit:        TicketMaster    313-645-6666
Columbus, OH:   TicketMaster    614-431-3600
Cincinatti:     TicketMaster    513-749-4949
Boston:         TicketMaster    617-931-2000
Washington DC:  TicketMaster    410-481-7328, 202-432-7328
Providence RI:  TicketMaster    401-331-2211
Boston:         TicketPro       800-828-7080
Bay Area:       Bass            510-762-BASS
Colorado        TicketMaster    303-290-8497
Southern CA     TicketMaster    278-TIXS (area codes: 619, 310, 213, 818)


Phish Tour Dates!  ***  March, and April 1993:
==============================================

MARCH:
------
8: Sweeney Center, Santa Fe, New Mexico
General Admission
Tickets on sale Feb. 12th

9: Pike's Peak Center, Colorado Springs, Colorado
Reserved Seats
Tickets on sale Feb. 12th

12: Daubson Arena, Vail, Colorado
General Admission
Tickets on sale Feb. 12th

13:  Colorado University Field House, U of Colorado,  Boulder, Colorado
General Admission
Tickets go on sale Feb. 12th
    
14:  Western State College Gym, Gunnison, Colorado
General Admission
Tickets go on sale Feb. 12th
    
16: Celebrity Theater, Pheonix, Arizona
Tickets go on sale Feb. 13

17 & 18: The Palace, Hollywood California
Tickets go on sale Feb. 13
16+  <--- NOTE

*****
*****
***** March 18th show added to the Palace *****
*****
*****



19: Orton Center Theater, University of Redlands Campus, 
Redlands, California
no on sale date yet (check hotline)

21: Ventura Concert Theater, Ventura, California
Tickets go on sale Feb. 12th
    
22: Crest Theater, Sacramento, California
Tickets go on sale Feb. 14th

24: Luther Burbank Center, Santa Rosa, California
Tix: $17.50 (+$4 BASS charge).
Tickets are on sale now

25: Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium, Santa Cruz, California
Tickets go on sale February 14th

26,27: The Warfield Theater, San Francisco, California
General Admission
Tickets go on sale Feb 14th

28: Humbolt State University East Gym, 707-826-3928
Humbolt campus, Arcata, California
al ages, General admission
Tickets @ Campus ticket office, The Works (Eureka and Arcata), The New
Outdoor Store (Arcata).  On sale now.

30: Hilton Ballroom, 66 East 6th St., Eugene, Oregon  800-992-8499
all ages, General admission
Tickets @ Record Garden, CD World, House of Records, Face the Music, Happy
Trails (Carvalls sp? and Eugene) Hult Center Box Office.  On sale now

31: Roseland theater, 8 NW 6th Ave., Portland, Oregon   503-224-8499
all ages, General Admission
Tix: $15 + $1 service charge from Fred Meyer Fastix 503-224-8499
Tickets on sale NOW


April:
------

1:  Roseland theater, 8 NW 6th Ave., Portland, Oregon   503-224-8499
all ages, General Admission
Tix: $15 + $1 service charge from Fred Meyer Fastix (area code?)-224-8499
Tickets on sale NOW
    
2:  Mt. Baker Theater, 104 North Commercial, Bellingham, WA  206-628-0888
all ages
Tickets @ Ticketmaster Northwest.  On sale now.
    
3: 86th Street Music Hall, 750 Pacific Blvd. South, Vancouver, BC
604-280-4444  all ages
Tickets @ Ticketmaster, Track Records.  On sale now.
    
5: Hub Ballroom, Stevens Way on U of Washington Campus, Seattle, WA
206-628-0888
all ages, General Admission
Tickets on sale now @ Ticketmaster

9: State Theater, 805 Hennepin Ave.  Minneapolis MN  612-339-7007
all ages, reserved seating
Tickets are $19.50.
Tickets on sale March 13th @ Ticketmaster and Box office

10: Aragon Ballroom, 1106 West Lawrence Ave., Chicago IL  312-561-9500
all ages, General Admission
Tickets on sale March 13th @ Ticketmaster

12: Student Union Ballroom, Madison & Jefferson Streets, University of Iowa,
Iowa City, IA  800-346-4401
all ages, General Admission 
Tickets on sale March 6th @ Ticketmaster and Iowa Memorial Union BO

13: Memorial Hall, 600 North Seventh St., Kansas City, KS  913-371-7555
all ages, Reserved *AND* General Admission
Tickets on sale March 13th @ Ticketmaster

14: American Theater, 416 North 9th St., St. Louis, MO  314-231-7001
all ages, Reserved *AND* General Admission
Tickets on sale March 13th @ Tickets Now and Dialtix (sp?)

***
*** might add show to the American Theater on 15th if tickets sell well ***
***

16: Macauley Theater, 315 West Broadway, Louisville KY  502-562-0180 (might
be -0100, I can't read the fax!)
all ages, Reserved 
Tickets on sale March 12th @ Kentucky Center for the Arts BO and Ticket
Connection

17 & 18: Michigan Theater, 603 East Liberty, Ann Arbor, MI  313-668-8397
all ages, Reserved 
Tickets on sale March 12th @ Ticketmaster and Michigan Theater BO

20 & 21: Newport Music Hall, 1722 North High St., Columbus, OH  614-461-6285
all ages, General Admission
Tickets on sale March 12th @ Ticketmaster and Singing Dog Records

22: Agora Theater, 5000 Euclid Ave., Cleveland OH  216-881-6911
all ages, General Admission
Tickets on sale March 12th @ Ticketmaster, Agora BO, Record Revolution, Wax
Stax (?), and The Shoppe

23: Reed Athletic Center, Colgate U., Hamilton NY  315-824-7320
all ages, General Admission
Tickets on sale April 1st for students, April 5th for public @ ticketmaster
(...and presumably some campus BO for students... -jgm)

24: Cheel Arena, Clarkson U., Potsdam, NY  315-268-6680
all ages, General Admission
Tickets on sale March 23rd @ Campus Center BO and local outlets

25: Kuhl Gymnasium, Alumni Field House, SUNY Geneseo NY  716-245-5855
all ages, General Admission
Tickets on sale March 31st for students, April 7th for public @ Max
(something else that I can't read) box office 800-525-2070

27: Concert Hall, 888 Yonge St., Toronta, Ontario  416-324-9777 
all ages, General Admission 
Tickets on sale March 18th @ Ticketmaster and Record Peddler

29: Le Spectrum, 319 Ste-Catherine St. West, Montreal Quebec
514-(8/3)61-5851
18+, general admission
Tickets on sale March 13th @ BO and Admission outlets

30: Sports Center, University of Hartford, West Hartford CT  203-768-4536
all ages, general admission
Tickets go on sale March 25th for students, March 27th for public @
Ticketmaster and Lincoln Center BO

MAY:
----
1 & 2: Tower Theater, 69th & Ludlow Streets, Upper Darby PA  215-569-9400
all ages, reserved
Tickets go on sale March 20th @ Ticketmaster, Tower Theater BO first day of
sale.

4: TBA -- CALL THE HOTLINE  (no info. as of 5 March 93)

5 & 6: Palace Theater, 19 Clinton Ave., Albany NY  518-465-4663
all ages, reserved
Tickets go on sale March 26th @ Ticketmaster and Palace BO

7: Bangor Auditorium, 100 Dutton St., Bangor ME  207-942-9000 
all ages, general admission
Tickets go on sale March 26th @ Ticketmaster, Bangor Auditorium BO

8: UNH Field House, University of New Hampshire, Durham NH  603-862-4984
all ages, general admission
Tickets go on sale March 26th @ TicketPro, UNH campus (students only), Main
St. Music, Strawberries



Other non-hotliine announcements, rumors, *UN*-confirmed shows:  
(note: if I haven't heard it on the hotline, it ain't confirmed!)
=================================================================

[none]

==========================================================================
                        End of Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

re             <<< Note 237.192 by SUBPAC::MAGGARD "Gone Phishin'" >>>
                      -< PHISH tour info (as of 3-5-93) >-


>30: Sports Center, University of Hartford, West Hartford CT  203-768-4536
>all ages, general admission
>Tickets go on sale March 25th for students, March 27th for public @
>Ticketmaster and Lincoln Center BO



HEY !!  How about that!  My alma mater!   If anyone wants details about this
place, just ask and I'll do my best.  BTW, the sports center is all-new!  It
is pretty snazzy compared to the old one.


BTW - i bought a Phish album - the Nectar record...  have not listened to it
enough to make many comments other then they tend to wander all over the place:
jazz, blues, and improv.


Hmm, maybe i'll go down and check this show out and check out my old school.
maybe.  are phish tickets tough to get?  or, do they usually not sell out?
I might be able to get early tix as an alumni, at least they better give me
early tix espec. after paying nearly $50k to that place!!!!!

    
    I got Nectar and Rift this weekend.  Nectar does drift around alot, but
    grows on you.  Rift is Excellent!.  They do some great jammin on the CD.
    After each tune I find myself thinking who they sound like.  Each tune
    offers something different. I hear Santana type licks, Zappa
    lirricks(sp), Zappa like instrumentals, Blue gassy type jammin, etc...
    Great cd.
    
    	Mark
    

> Rift is Excellent!.  They do some great jammin on the CD.

If it's jammin' ya want, buy Junta.  There's a coupele of 15+ minute
super-intense-jam-tunes on that one!  David Bowie and Fluffhead are two
killer tunes, Dinner and a Movie and YEM are awesome too!  Then of course
they've got the Phish-standard of demented-lyric'd-catchy-songs: Foam,
Contact, and Golgi Apparatus.  It's my favorite Phish disc by *FAR*!!!

Junta is what hooked me on Phish, there's just no debait'n it.


- jeff

> are phish tickets tough to get?  or, do they usually not sell out?  I

yes, if you buy them too late ;-)  FYI, The venues that Phish will be
playing have 1000-3000 seats.

Many NE shows sell out fast -- i.e. < 1 day.  It's possible (but probably
not likely) that all the early tix will get swallowed up by students.  

FWIW, I've never had a problem getting through to Ticketbastards for Phish
tickets on the first day of sale.

- jeff

    Hey Jeff & Rich,
    
    So far, I've picked up Rift, Nectar, Junta and Lawn Boy - and Possum
    isn't on any of them....it may be cliche' to actually LIKE Possum, but
    BFD - where is it?
    
    tim
    

re: Possum

I fell over laughing the first time I heard that one -- and hearing 'em
play it live is always a good time...  "WWWHOOOOOOAAAA POSSSSUUUMM!!!"

> where is it?

...sitting with the rest of my Phish tapes... ;-)

Phish's song list is well over a hundred originals.  Only 40 or so have made
it to disc so far...  ...the rest ya have to get on tape. ;-)

FYI, I've got few DAT soundboards now, and at least one has a Possum on it.
Maybe I should run a Phish tree in here ... is there any interest?

- jeff

re: Note 237.197 by NAC::TRAMP::GRADY 
    
    >it may be cliche' to actually LIKE Possum, but BFD - where is it?
    
    De-Gaussed with the rest of my Phish masters. :-)

    
    Psyched, 4 Hours till Becketts and 6 hours til Phish in the 
    Pikes Peak Center!  3 years since I saw them last.  Yahoo!
    
    Mark
    

i'll echo some of jeff's comments (and waste some bandwidth ;^)

if 'ya want an album, junta is definitely the best

but i still like tapes better

i'm soon going to be running a tree of a recent atlanta show which kicks
ass; the source is a DAT soundboard; i'll post the tree announcement here
when i post it to the PhishNet

peace and general phishiness,
rich

re: Note 237.201 by ROCK::ROCK::FROMM 
    
>i'm soon going to be running a tree of a recent atlanta show which kicks
>ass; the source is a DAT soundboard; 
    
    I see Shelly found someone to lend her a DAT deck. :-) No DAT copies,
    I'm told.
    
    GEr

>    I see Shelly found someone to lend her a DAT deck. :-) No DAT copies,
>    I'm told.

i can make DAT copies from the first gen analog tape, but no DAT copies can be
made directly from the DAT soundboard; it's the band's policy (presumably
because there's too much of an incentive to master a bootleg CD from a
soundboard tape that hasn't been through any analog generations); the first gen
analog was taped on my NAD 6300 with Maxell MX-S tapes and Dolby C, so the DATs
will still sound pretty damn good

- rich

Note 237.203 by ROCK::CAMPR::FROMM 
    
    >but no DAT copies can be made directly from the DAT soundboard; it's the 
    >band's policy (presumably because there's too much of an incentive to 
    >master a bootleg CD from a soundboard tape that hasn't been through any 
    >analog generations); 
    
    That's absolutely ridiculous logic, IMHO. They seem to like to impress
    themselves. I mean, why bother allowing taping at all if you're going to 
    put silly restrictions on it? Virtually no one else who allows taping
    does anything like that. 
    
    Gerry

i don't really agree with the policy either, and i do think it's kind of silly;
but i don't really think that i'm in a position to question the policy; and
i don't think that i should be bugging shelly to be bugging trey about it;
yes, i'd like it to be different, but i'm thankful for what they do allow and
provide, so i'm not going to complain about it too much

>    I mean, why bother allowing taping at all if you're going to 
>    put silly restrictions on it?

because i'd much rather that they allow taping with a few restrictions than no
taping at all; the dead put restrictions on taping: you must have a taper's
ticket, you can only tape from the designated tapers section, no video taping,
anything else?  can you live with these restrictions?  phish didn't use to have
any restictions; currently the restrictions that i know of are no video taping
(one which i don't really understand either), no more soundboard taping from
random people (which i think was done simply because the scene was getting a
bit too large and paul was sick of people messing around with the soundboard),
and no public distribution of DSBD tapes without an analog generation

>    Virtually no one else who allows taping
>    does anything like that. 

i spoke with one of the guys from God Street Wine, and they were also
considering a similar restriction; they were thinking of allowing soundboard
patches to analog tapers, but discontinuing them for DAT; i don't think they've
implemented this policy (yet), but they were considering it

on a contrary note, Shockra (which is incredibly considerate to tapers, and
provides both a patch bay and a power strip at shows) has a piece of tape on
the patch bay on which is written "DAT's first"

/rich

    Really?
    
    Does Healy allow DAT's to tap directly into the soundboard, for general
    tape trading?  I'd be a little surprised, if that were the case. (and
    interested)
    
    tim
    

> That's absolutely ridiculous logic, IMHO. They seem to like to impress
> themselves. 

I agree.  The only thing is does is piss-off us anal DAT tapers... ;-)

- jeff

> Does Healy allow DAT's to tap directly into the soundboard, for general
> tape trading?  

I've got a DAT soundboard from Buffalo '90...  ...and the lack of hiss tells
me it hasn't seen much in the way of analog equipment...

They're out there.

- jeff
    

>anal DAT tapers...

never seen one of them; nope, never  ;^)

/r

    re: Note 237.205 by ROCK::CAMPR::FROMM 
    
    >the dead put restrictions on taping: you must have a taper's ticket, 
    >you can only tape from the designated tapers section, no video taping,
    
    And those apply to all but Dan Healy's up front buddies. :-)
    
    >can you live with these restrictions?  
    
    I do, others don't. Others don't need to. I generally adhere to
    taping restrictions unless of course the restriction is "no taping" :-).
    
    
re: Note 237.206 by NAC::TRAMP::GRADY "Short arms, and deep pockets..." >>>

    >Does Healy allow DAT's to tap directly into the soundboard, for general
    >tape trading?  I'd be a little surprised, if that were the case. (and
    >interested)
    
    DAT soundboards are around for every show since the inception of DAT. 
    They're available but I wouldn't say "generally available". You pretty 
    much have to have something worth trading. There are, however, many, 
    many things available that, uh, "don't exist". ;-)
    
    Dan only allows a certain number of people to patch. We ran Bear's deck 
    once because he showed up too late and Healy wouldn't let him patch. :-)
    
    Gerry

    re: We ran Bears deck once..."
    
    THE BEAR??? as in bears choice??
    
    rfb

    Yeah, *the* Bear. He hung out with us before the show for a while
    and a little bit after the show. Interesting person to talk to. :-)
    
    Gerry

    GerG,
    
    The same is true of Phish shows.  There are DAT soundboards out there,
    but they weren't obtained within the restrictions that we discussing,
    if ya know what I mean....;-)
    
    tim
    

    There's a big difference in the sound of a "Phish" board
    and the sound of a "Dead" board, IMHO. :-) 

    Yer right.  There's more audience in the background at a Dead show.
    
    :-)
    
    tim
    

    Not on tape there isn't. :-)

>    >the dead put restrictions on taping: you must have a taper's ticket,
>    >you can only tape from the designated tapers section, no video taping,

>    And those apply to all but Dan Healy's up front buddies. :-)

and people who are personal friends of paul or phish can plug into the
soundboard; no difference there

>    There's a big difference in the sound of a "Phish" board
>    and the sound of a "Dead" board, IMHO. :-) 

well, i have two phish tapes which are first gen analogs from a DAT board
(10/19?/91 catalyst and 2/20?/93 atlanta) and i think that they sound pretty
damn good; but what the hell do i know; i don't even own a DAT ;^)

/r

    Don't need a DAT, just compare Paul's setup to Dan Healy's. :-)
    
    Ger_who's_in_a_Phish_bashing_mood_today_:-)

>    Ger_who's_in_a_Phish_bashing_mood_today_:-)

is this day different than any other days? :^)

/r

    Er, no. :-) 

	The grate Phish_taping vs. Dead_taping debate is cracking me
	up gentlemons!!


	:-)



	so, is anyone gonna go to the Hahtfid Phish show?  i'm thinking
	about it since it is my alma mater........

    re:                  <<< Note 237.214 by RAISE::GLADU >>>

    >There's a big difference in the sound of a "Phish" board
    >and the sound of a "Dead" board, IMHO. :-) 

    Right . . . Phish have actually done something new in the last ten
    years.  Probably even last week.
    
    Jamie

re: Note 237.222 by STUDIO::IDE 
    
    >Right . . . Phish have actually done something new in the last ten
    >years.  Probably even last week.
    
    Oh, you mean like wearing a dress and singing into a 
    vacuum cleaner? :-)

    re .-1
    
    Exactly.  How many bounces would it take Jerry to bust a
    mini-trampoline?

    
    
    >>Exactly.  How many bounces would it take Jerry to bust a
    >>mini-trampoline?
    
    Not nearly as few as it used to! ;^)
    
    							jeff

    Yeah, he could probably fit into a tu-tu nowadays,
    as well. :-)

Now that's a scary thought.

tim

Phish has been in the Globe lately, most recently today as they are going to
be at the Boston Music Awards thingy at the Wang Ctr...  

re:     <<< Note 237.228 by ZENDIA::FERGUSON "On tour is where I wanna be" >>>

>be at the Boston Music Awards thingy at the Wang Ctr...  
 					     ^^^^
Hah!  Wang Center... Tommy Chong (of Cheech and Chong fame) has been
on WBCN off and on since yesterday, and this morning asked Chuckkkk the
dj "Hey man what's this Wang Center all about ?  I got this problem..."
;-)  He is one funny character!

If you're a Chong fan, check it out.  He's gonna be on the 5 past 5 comedy
thing on bcn later this afternoon.

Ken

If you wish to sign up on the tree, please follow the instructions posted
below and send me mail (ROCK::FROMM from inside DEC).  Do not post a reply
to this note, as is usually done in trees in GRATEFUL.  It probably won't get
you put on the tree.

--------------------

Greetings!

This is the ophishial announcement of a tape tree for the 2/20/93 Phish show at
the Roxy Theatre, in Atlanta, GA.  This is one killer show, including perhaps
the best Mike's Groove that I've ever heard (it goes on for nearly 30 minutes).
The seed for the tree is Paul's DAT soundboard master, generously provided by
the band.  It was recorded on a Panasonic SV-3700.  In accordance with Phish's
policy regarding soundboard taping, no direct DAT copies will be made of the
original.  The DAT people on the tree will receive SCMS 00 tapes that have
passed through a single analog generation (Panasonic SV-3700 -> NAD 6300 (on
Maxell MX-S tape with Dolby C) -> Panasonic SV-3700).

The setlist is as follows:

Phish
Roxy Theatre
Atlanta, GA
2/20/93

Set I
-----
Golgi
Foam
Sloth
Possum
Weigh
All Things Reconsidered
Divided Sky
Silent In The Morning
Fluffhead
Cavern

Set II
------
Wilson
Reba
Tweezer ->
Walk Away ->
Tweezer ->
Glide ->
Mike's Song ->
I Am Hydrogen (with Kung) ->
Weekapaug Groove
Fast Enough For You
Big Ball Jam
Terrapin
Harry Hood
Tweezer reprise

E: Sleeping Monkey

The 1st set fits on a 90 minute DAT, and the 2nd set fits on a 120 minute DAT.
For the analog tapers, the 1st set plus the encore will be put on a 90 minute
tape, and the 2nd set (minus the encore) will be put on a 100 minute tape.

If you wish to be on the tree, decide which of the following categories you'd
like to be in:

1) DAT branch - receive a DAT copy, make DAT copies for others
2) DAT leaf - receive a DAT copy, make no tapes for others
3) DAT leaf/analog branch - receive a DAT copy, make analog copies for others
4) analog branch - receive an analog copy, make analog copies for others
5) analog leaf - receive an analog copy, make no tapes for others

If you volunteer to make copies for others, you may have to make up to 5 sets
of tapes, depending on how big the response is to this tree.  So please don't
volunteer to make tapes unless you are up to the commitment.

If you wish to be a branch, please indicate what taping equipment you will be
using.  Analog branch status will be first given to people with the best decks,
to preserve the quality of the tapes as best as possible.  Please, NO HIGH
SPEED DUBBING!!!

Please fill out the form below and return it to me ([email protected]) no
later than Friday, May 14, 1993.  It will be much easier for me if you use the
form below and fill in the appropriate information.  When returning the form,
please include a subject that says "ATLANTA TREE: *", where * is your choice of
category (DAT branch, analog leaf, etc.).

------------------------------- CUT HERE --------------------------------------

Name:
E-mail address:
Alternate e-mail address:
Will you have net access over the summer?:
Snail mail address:
Phone number:
Will you be at this address and phone number over the summer?
Summer address:
Summer phone number:
Tree status requested (DAT branch, DAT leaf, DAT leaf/analog branch, analog
	branch, or analog leaf):
Taping equipment you will be using:
Preference of tape brand and type:
If analog, Dolby preference:
Do you have tapes to trade, or will you be sending blanks?:

------------------------------- CUT HERE --------------------------------------

Just to repeat...

The tree will be open until Friday, May 14, 1993.  Send your tree form to
[email protected], with a subject line of "ATLANTA TREE: *", where * is
your choice of category (DAT branch, analog leaf, etc.).

Peace and general phishiness,
Rich

GUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBO

> Do not post a reply to this note, as is usually done in trees in GRATEFUL.
> It probably won't get you put on the tree.


picky, picky, picky, ...

re:              <<< Note 237.230 by ROCK::CAMPR::FROMM "GUMBO!!!" >>>
>     -< TAPE TREE ANNOUNCEMENT - Phish, Roxy Theatre, Atlanta, GA, 2/20/ >-

> Phish
> Roxy Theatre
> Atlanta, GA
> 2/20/93

> Set II
> ------
> Terrapin

As in Terrapin Station?  How frequently does Phish do Dead covers?

I may have to get in on this tree just to hear this!!

adam

>As in Terrapin Station?  How frequently does Phish do Dead covers?

>I may have to get in on this tree just to hear this!!

    This is not the same tune.  Phish really doesn't do dead covers; well,
    not lately.  A friend of mine from Vermont says that they used to do
    dead covers in their early years.  I would highly reccomend this tape
    though.  I have one set from the same source tape, and its real good
    quality.
    
    	Mike
    

>As in Terrapin Station?  How frequently does Phish do Dead covers?
>I may have to get in on this tree just to hear this!!

no, as in the song Terrapin by Syd Barrett; the only Phish tape that I've
listened to with any Dead covers was from 1983, i haven't seen any in any
setlists later than 1985, and they certainly don't do any now

- rich   

	What dead has Phish covered ?   Just curious...

	Ken

> What dead has Phish covered ?   

When they first started playing, they covered a lot of Dead and other
stuff...  ...until they built up enough originals.  I'm pretty sure they
haven't covered a Dead tune in several years (since ~86/87).

They're seriously Dead-phobic now, and when one of their friends tells them
that one of their songs sounds too much like a Dead tune, they stop playing
it.  Kinda silly if you ask me.

>	What dead has Phish covered ?   Just curious...

the Helping Phriendly Book is woefully inadequate on early shows; there's only
a small handful (4) of pre-1986 shows listed, but the following songs do
appear:

Scarlet Begonias
Fire on the Mountain
Eyes of the World
The Other One

the last entry with Dead songs is listed as 5/??/85, Page's first show
(according to the entry - i had been under the impression that he joined in
1984); but Page did insist once, when he was flipping through the song listing
at the back of the book, that they never played any Dead songs since he was in
the band, so who knows...

i think i recall hearing Bertha on the 1983 tape that i heard; there might have
been some more dead songs, but i dunno; i didn't listen to much of the tape -
it sounded awful (recording quality that is, not performance)

- rich

>They're seriously Dead-phobic now

from reading some of the interviews posted on the net, it sounds like Mike
isn't quite as Dead-phobic as the rest of them (esp. Trey) are; just my
gut feeling from what they've said

it does seem kind of silly that they feel comfortable doing covers from all
sorts of musical genres (Duke Ellington, Bill Monroe, Syd Barrett, Neil
Diamond, Jimi Hendrix, AC/DC, Allman Brothers, the Wizard of Oz, just to name a
few widely varing sources), but that they wouldn't touch a Dead song for fear
of being labeled a Dead cover band

- rich

    you'd be surprised how easy it can be to get tagged with the label
    "dead cover band"...  Cross the Water covered two whole dead tunes 
    and we had to argue with one of the places we played to get them to
    stop billing our shows as "dead dance"...  :^)  
    
    being tagged a dead cover band can be bad for you commercially too...
    sure, it will give you a certain amount of exposure and a built in
    appeal to a limited audience, but a lot of people won't come hear you
    either because they have already decided they know what you do and
    aren't interested cuz they aren't deadheads...
    
    					da ve

FYI, I just got word from Phish's management that there will be undercover
NARC agents at the Durham, NH show on May 8th.  


- phish_tour_info_man

>FYI, I just got word from Phish's management that there will be undercover
>NARC agents at the Durham, NH show on May 8th.  

it surprises me that the police would tell the management of such an
operation, although i suppose they could have just heard it thru the rumor
mill

- rich

    They probably leaned on them for free tickets...

So, are any of you Phish types going to the show at the University of Hartford
tonight?  I'll be there.  Only saw them once before in '89, I think, at 
Sheehan's in Northampton, MA.  Tiny place and it was even full!  I guess 
they've come pretty far!  Had a chance to see them with Santana last summer 
but got there a little late :-/  Did see them jam with Carlos though, pretty 
hot!

chuck

BTW, there's a decent brewpub in Hartford on Pearl St.  The beer I've had there
was ok but nothing to write home about.  The best deal is the 25 oz. bottles
of Chimay for $6.00!  They just have one of the three but I forget which one.

> So, are any of you Phish types going to the show at the University of
> Hartford tonight?  

Yup!  Dori and I are going.  

> BTW, there's a decent brewpub in Hartford on Pearl St.  

Pre-show gathering perhaps? ;-)

Where is Pearl St.???  My directions include the following streets:
Prospect Ave., Kane St., Albany Ave., and Bloomfield Ave.  I'm not too
familiar with Hartford -- even though I was born there (!)

> The best deal is the 25 oz.  bottles of Chimay for $6.00!  

YUM!!! ;-)


- jeff

> So, are any of you Phish types going to the show at the University of
> Hartford tonight?  

i'm blowing off the Phish show to go see ARU instead; i will be at the show
tomorrow night at the Tower (Philly) in case any noters are in that vicinity
(although i don't know of a DEC site anywhere near the area)

- rich

Here's the latest Phish spring/summer tour info... 

- jeff


==========================================================================
                        The Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

Last Updated: 29 April 1993
Info Updated: NEW HOTLINE NUMBER/CORRESPONDENCE ADDRESS!  Some tour info.


Latest info from the Phish Hotline (617-862-7820) as of 27 March 1993:
======================================================================
Message recorded :  This is the correct address for 1.) mail to band
members, 2.) requests to be on the (paper) mailing list, and 3.) merchandise
mail orders:

Phish
(or, Dionysian Productions)
1632 Massachusetts Avenue
Lexington, MA   02173


Ticket Agencies & Numbers:
==========================
Ann Arbor, MI   TicketMaster    313-645-6666
Bay Area, CA    Bass            510-762-BASS
Binghamton, NY  TicketMaster    607-722-7272
Battle Creek MI TicketMaster    616-963-8080
Boston:         TicketMaster    617-931-2000
Boston:         TicketPro       800-828-7080
Colorado        TicketMaster    303-290-8497
Columbus, OH:   TicketMaster    614-431-3600
Cincinatti:     TicketMaster    513-749-4949
Detroit:        TicketMaster    313-645-6666
New York City:  TicketMaster    212-307-7171
Philadelphia:   TicketMaster    215-336-2000
Providence RI:  TicketMaster    401-331-2211
Southern CA     TicketMaster    278-TIXS (area codes: 619, 310, 213, 818)
Syracuse NY:    TicketMaster    315-472-0700
Washington DC:  TicketMaster    410-481-7328, 202-432-7328


Phish Tour Dates!  ***  April and May 1993:
===========================================

April:
------
30: Sports Center, University of Hartford, West Hartford CT  203-768-4536
all ages, general admission
Tickets go on sale March 25th for students, March 27th for public @
Ticketmaster and Lincoln Center BO
Sold out as of a long time ago.


MAY:
----
1 & 2: Tower Theater, 69th & Ludlow Streets, Upper Darby PA  215-569-9400
all ages, reserved
Tickets go on sale March 20th @ Ticketmaster, Tower Theater BO first day of
sale.  215-336-2000 tickermaster.

3: State Theatre, New Brunswick, N.J. 
Tickets went on sale April 9th at the State Theatre box office: 908-246-7469
reserved seats, still avail throu NYC ticketmaster

5 & 6: Palace Theater, 19 Clinton Ave., Albany NY  518-465-4663
all ages, reserved
Tickets go on sale March 26th @ Ticketmaster and Palace BO
May 6th is sold out.  5th are still available.

7: Bangor Auditorium, 100 Dutton St., Bangor ME  207-942-9000 
all ages, general admission
Tickets go on sale March 26th @ Ticketmaster, Bangor Auditorium BO
Tickets still available as of 27 April.

8: UNH Field House, University of New Hampshire, Durham NH  603-862-4984
all ages, general admission
Tickets go on sale March 26th @ TicketPro, UNH campus (students only), Main
St. Music, Strawberries
Sold out.

29,30: Laguna Seca Raceway
   LAGUNA SECA DAZE   Memorial Day Weekend Festival
   Laguna Seca Recreation Area, Monterey CA
   Sat., May 29 & Sun., May 30
   Show time 11:00 AM each day (and goes 'til it's over)
   Tickets: $26.50 one day; $48.00 for both days
   Camping tickets also available at BASS
   [Camping:  $25, $35 w/ water hookup.  Rates are per spot/vehicle! -jgm]
   Tickets go on sale this Sunday, April 18 at 10 AM @ BASS.
   Festival Hotline: 415-974-6726
   Saturday May 29:  Allman Brothers Band, Phish, Blues Traveler, Shwan
   Colvin, Jeff Healey Band
   Sunday May 30:  10,000 Maniacs, Phish, Blues Traveler, The Samples
   There will be art displays, crafts booths, ethnic foods and other
   surprises throughtout the day, as well as a late night camp fire each
   night.  The campgrounds open at 6:00 PM on Friday May 28, and closes at
   noon on Monday the 31st.



Other non-hotliine announcements, rumors, *UN*-confirmed shows:  
(note: if I haven't heard it on the hotline, it ain't confirmed!)
=================================================================

From: Bruce Willner <[email protected]>
Subject: 3 Unconfirmed Summer Dates
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 21:45:45 GMT

[from POLLSTAR magazine venue listings]
The dates are:   July 16 - Lakeside Amphitheater,
                           Darien Lake, NY

                      18 - The Mann Music Center,
                           Philadelphia, PA

                      21 - Thames River Music Center
                           Groton, CT
[commentary deleted]

---------

From:	CRL::ROCK::FROMM "Rich Fromm 29-Apr-1993 0946" 
To:	rock::bostonmusic
Subj:	1993 Great Woods Schedule
forwarded from another net...
    from todays Globe (posted with no permission whatsoever)
    this years Grate Woods schedule.
    [most of it deleted]

July 24 -- Phish.  Tickets go on sale May 15th.
    

==========================================================================
                        End of Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

    Wow, the Tower Theater...haven't heard about that place in awhile. 
    Some time ago, I heard that an old aquaintance of mine from college
    (St. Joe's, Philly, ca. 1973) had taken a job as the manager there.  I
    think.  She's probably not there anymore anyways - that was just a
    brief flashback for me...;-) ;-)
    
    tim
    

>   <<< Note 237.247 by NAC::TRAMP::GRADY "Short arms, and deep pockets..." >>
>    Wow, the Tower Theater...haven't heard about that place in awhile. 
>    
>    tim
 

Definitely a flashback.  what a great place to see a dead show, live or 
Simulcast:-)

I grew up in that part of the world and used to see shows there all the 
time.

Geoff   

    How about The Electric Factory, for a flashback, as a born and bred
    Delaware Valley Resident(Abington, Glenside, Willow Grove), what a neat
    place that was. 

There was another club outside of Philly in the Mainline area whose name
I can't remember...I'm only thinking of it because it was either the Tower
or this other place that Peggianne was managing, but I can't remember the
name...any Philadelphians out there?  MainPoint?  I fergit...

BTW,

Who owns the green VW Jetta with the Dead stickers in the LKG parking lot?
I've noticed it a couple times lately, and kept meaning to find out whose
it is...

tim

forgot another one....

Isn't it the Tower that's out near 69th and Market (where the EL meets the 'E'
bus?)?  First time I ever saw Reefer Madness (and "The Mystery of the Flying
Fish") was out there, circa 1972...sigh.  It's been awhile....

tim

>Isn't it the Tower that's out near 69th and Market

yup; one block away from the 69th St. Terminal

re: Electric Factory

i never knew it was the name of a club; i just knew of it as Electric Factory
Concerts

- rich

    Does ne1 know what the tik limit is on the upcoming Phish sale 
    at Grate Wodds is?
    
    thanx,Andy

I just posted the following tape tree announcement to the Phish-net.  If
anyone is interested, please send me (subpac::maggard) yer info.

Cheers!

- jeff

------------

This is the first announcement for a tape tree of the Phish 3-22-93 Crest
Theater show in Sacramento, CA.  This is the 'Gamehendge' show.  There will
be one more announcement before the tree closes at 5pm on Friday, June 18th.
The tree will be posted on Monday, June 21st.  Please email all responses to:
    
    [email protected]

The seed tapes for this show are cassette soundboard masters generously
donated for the tree by Page.  The cassette master tapes were recorded
without Dolby NR onto Maxell XL-II tapes, and have a S/N of ~60dB.  They
have been copied to DAT via NAD 6300 -> Panasonic SV-3700.  The DAT seed
tapes are SCMS-00.  Due to the length of the second set and the timing of
the flip, there was no encore recorded on the cassette masters.  However, an
audience DAT of the encore has been graciously donated by Mike Perrott, so
you can rest assured that you'll get the whole show.

3/22/93
Crest Theatre
Sacramento CA

   Set 1                          Set 2
Chalkdust                       Golgi Apparatus
Guelah Papyrus                  Its Ice->
Uncle Pen                       (Gamehenge Narrative Begins)
Stash                           Lizards ->
Bouncin'                        Tela->
Rift                            Wilson->
Weigh                           AC/DC Bag->
Reba                            Colonel Forbins Ascent->
Sparkle                         Fly Famous Mockingbird->
David Bowie                     Sloth->
                                McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters
                                (End of Gamehenge Narrative/Songs)
E: Amazing Grace                Mikes Song->
   Fire                         I Am Hydrogen->
                                Weekapaug Groove


Set one fits on a 90 minute DAT, and set two and encore fit on a 120 minute
DAT.  For the analog folks, set one will fit on a 90 minute tape, and the
2nd set and encore will go on a 100 minute tape.

If you wish to be a branch, please indicate what taping equipment you will
be using.  Branch status will be first given to people with the best
equipment, to preserve the quality of the tapes as best as possible.
Branches must be willing to make up to five copies of the show (10 tapes
max).  

Please fill out the form below and return it to ([email protected])
no later than Friday, June 18, 1993.  Please use the form below -- ambiguous
responses will probably be ignored.  When returning the form, please use a
subject line that says "3-22-93 tree *", where * is your choice of category:

        DAT->DAT branch
        DAT leaf
        DAT->Analog branch
        Analog->Analog branch
        Analog leaf
    

Please use the following form when signing up for the tree:

------------snip---------------

Phish 3-22-93 Tree -- Signup Sheet

Name:   
E-mail:
Alternate e-mail:
US-mail:
Phone:
Tree status (DAT/Analog/branch/leaf/etc.):
Taping equipment:
Preference of tape brand and type:
Dolby preference:
Do you have tapes to trade, or will you be sending blanks?:
Any other comments:

------------snip---------------


To repeat, this is the first announcement for the Phish 3-22-93 tree.  The
tree will be open until Friday, June 18, 1993.  Send the above form to
([email protected]), with a subject line of "3-22-93 tree *",
where * is your choice of category (DAT branch, analog leaf, etc.).

    What's the address for Phish-net?  Inquiring sons want to know.. :-)

    the phish-net can be found at: rec.music.phish.
    
    I don't know if that's what you're looking for, but there's also a
    phish digest that you can request to have sent to you.  That can be
    done by sending mail to: [email protected].
    
    To get more info. about the digests and the archives list, I'd
    reccomend going into rec.music.phish and reading the FAQ that Rich
    Fromm posts every-so-often.
    
    	Mike

rec.music.phish can be accessed via the usenet.  I think 'vnews' and DXRN?
are DEC news readers... ...there's info on how to access/use vnews and dxrn
somewhere in this notesfile.

> That can be done by sending mail to:
> [email protected].
  
Please *don't* send mail to that address asking to sign up on the mailing
list, you'll drive Lee bonkers! ;-)   FYI, the Phish-archives is where they
keep all the trivial info that is worth keeping about Phish and the
Phish-net.  If you want any back-digests, the FAQ file, setlists file, etc.,
etc., you mail to that address.

The Phish-net addresses (for the digestified mailing list) are as follows:

Requests to be added to or deleted from the Phish mailing list and requests
for old digests to be resent (please provide digest #s) must be sent to one
of these addresses:

    Internet: [email protected]
    BITNET:   phish-rq@virginia
    UUCP:     ...!uunet!virginia!phish-request

Questions about the list and requests for the current version of the
Frequently Asked Questions file, Phish Stories, the Helping Phriendly Book,
or the lyrics file must be sent to one of these addresses:

    Internet: [email protected]
    BITNET:   phish-ar@virginia
    UUCP:     ...!uunet!virginia!phish-archives

You may send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.phish) via one of these
addresses:

    Internet: [email protected]
    BITNET:   phish@virginia
    UUCP:     ...!uunet!virginia!phish

>    To get more info. about the digests and the archives list, I'd
>    reccomend going into rec.music.phish and reading the FAQ that Rich
>    Fromm posts every-so-often.

here's the blurb that mike was talking about; it gets automatically posted
to rec.music.phish every 4 days under the subject " *** IMPORTANT FAQ and
ARCHIVE info - PLEASE READ THIS *** "

- rich

--------------------------

Welcome to the PhishNet! (also known as rec.music.phish)

If you're new to the net, please send away for the Frequently Asked Questions
(FAQ) file.  It will answer a bunch of questions (which are, believe it or not,
frequently asked) that you might have.

To do so, send a message saying something like "Send me the FAQ file" to
the following mail address:

    Internet: [email protected]
    BITNET:   phish-ar@virginia
    UUCP:     ...!uunet!virginia!phish-archives

You can also use this address to ask questions about the list, or to get the
current version of the Netter's list, the Lyrics database, the Stories
collection, the Interviews file, the Helping Phriendly Book, the Chords file,
the Tour Dates file, and the Nettiquette file.

Be sure to use the addresses listed above.  Please, DON'T SEND REQUESTS TO ME!
(i.e. don't "reply" to this message if you want the FAQ file)

The FAQ file is usually available for anonymous ftp from fringe.cis.brown.edu,
under the directory /pub/phish/text_files/FAQ.  All of the other files
mentioned above, and a whole lot more, are also available at this ftp site.
However, THE FTP SITE ON FRINGE IS TEMPORARILY DOWN!!!  In the meantime, you
can get the aforementioned files by either sending e-mail to phish-archives,
or by gophering to fringe.cis.brown.edu, port 1070.  If you're not familiar
with gopher, you'll have to ask your local computer guru.


Peace and general phishiness.

GUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOALUMNIBLUESGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBO
 

just a tidbit that might interest some pholks in here...

latest word from phish's management is that mail order will hopefully be set
up in time for the new year's run (which will most likely be the first shows
once summer tour is over; there will probably not be a fall tour)

we now return to your regularly scheduled noting...

/rich

I just got my copies of the 2/20/93 Roxy tape in the mail last night.

Having never heard one note of Phish music, I popped the tape in the player
for my long ride to work this morning.  I believe that I am converted!

This is very innovative, intelligent, well excecuted, exciting music.  The
best way I can characterize it is Frank Zappa without the attitude.  They
ain't stuck in the old A-A-B-A forms of most popular music.  They mix rock,
country, folk, jazz, and classical forms beautifully.  They understand dynamic
range and programmatic presentation.  Oh...and they can ROCK too!  Interesting
meters.  Excellent musicianship.

Needless to say, I've just signed up for the other tree.

	dave

* = Yowsa! is  a registered trademark of the NTTH T!ng Sticker Kompany, Ink.

> Frank Zappa without the attitude.  

Funny, I think of it as Frank Zappa on speed!  

/Ken

re: speed

Yeah, it's just like the Dead only at twice the pace! 

8-) 8-) 8-)


re: Frank Zappa without the attitude.  

Yep, there isn't as much politicking in Phish songs...
...except maybe one old (early-to-mid 80s ;-) tune that goes like:

    "Mrs. Reagan, Mrs. Reagan, gun your husband down!"
    

...and the evil villain of the Gamehendge saga:  Wilson.  
(Ronald _Wilson_ Reagan, but that's just my interpretation... ;-)

    "Oh, Wilson.  Punch you in the eye!"


- phishead

PS -- a plug for my 3-22-93 tree:  Get your responses to me by Friday at 5pm
if yer interested in killer tapes of a fantastic Phish show!

==========================================================================
                        The Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

Last Updated: 15 July 1993
Info Updated: Baltimore, July 19th show is CANCELLED!!!  The show in Tampa,
              Florida has been MOVED from the Cuban Club Plaza to the Ritz
              Theatre; and finally, the show in Salt Lake City will take
              place on August 21st as originally planned, rather than on
              August 22nd which we announced on the previous message.  


Latest info from the Phish Hotline (617-862-7820) as of 15 July 1993:
=====================================================================
Updated tour info -- see below!  All correspondence (Phish Update
mailing list, fan mail, merchandise, etc.) should be mailed to:  
    Phish
    1632 Massachusetts Ave.
    Lexington, MA 02173


Ticket Agencies & Numbers:
==========================
Ann Arbor, MI   TicketMaster    313-645-6666
Bay Area, CA    Bass            510-762-BASS
Binghamton, NY  TicketMaster    607-722-7272
Battle Creek MI TicketMaster    616-963-8080
Boston:         TicketMaster    617-931-2000
Boston:         TicketPro       800-828-7080
Colorado        TicketMaster    303-290-8497
Columbus, OH:   TicketMaster    614-431-3600
Cincinatti:     TicketMaster    513-749-4949
Detroit:        TicketMaster    313-645-6666
New York City:  TicketMaster    212-307-7171
Oregon          Fastixx         503-224-8499
Philadelphia:   TicketMaster    215-336-2000
Providence RI:  TicketMaster    401-331-2211
Southern CA     TicketMaster    278-TIXS (area codes: 619, 310, 213, 818)
Syracuse NY:    TicketMaster    315-472-0700
Washington DC   TicketMaster    410-481-7328, 202-432-7328
Washingtn state Ticketmaster    206 628-0888 


Phish Summer Tour Dates!  ***  July and August 1993:
====================================================

July:
-----
15: (first show of the summer tour):  Cayuga County Fairgrounds, Weedsport
    (near Syracuse), New York.  General Admission.  Tickets on sale 5/22 at
    Ticketmaster, Cayuga County Fairgrounds box office, Music Plus in Oswego
    NY, and at One Stop Entertainment in Watertown, NY.  Ticketmaster charge
    by phone:  315.472.0700; 716.232.1900; and 607.722.7272.  For
    directions, etc. call 315.834.6606.

16: Mann Music Center, 52nd & Parkside, Philadelphia, PA  215-568-3222
    Reserved and General admission.
    On sale June 5th at Mann BO, and Ticketmaster 215-336-2000.
    
17: Wolf Trap, The FIlene Ctr., 1551 Trap Road, Vienna, Virginia (DC area).  
    703-225-1868
    Reserved and General admission.  
    Tickets went on sale on 5/2 at ProTix 703.218.6500 or at the Wolf Trap
    box office.

18: IC Light Amphitheater, One Station Sq., Pittsburgh, PA  412-391-1111
    reserved
    on sale May 28th at National Record Mart, Koko, Jim's Records, Ides
    Entertainment, Ticketservice 412-391-1111.

19:     ***SHOW HAS BEEN CANCELLED!***
    Pier Six Concert Pavillion, 731 Eastern Ave. Baltimore, MD  401-625-1400


21: Orange County Fairgrounds (w/ HORDE), 239 Wisner Ave., Middletown NY
    914-343-1342     Show starts at 4:00
    general admission
    on sale 5-22 at ticketmaster and Orange County BO; $24 GA, $25 res.
    phone # to order tix  (914) 343-3134 

22: Stowe Mountain Performing Arts Center, 5781 Mountain Rd., Stowe VT
    802-253-7311
    Reserved and GA, on sale May 22nd at Ticketmaster 802-862-5300

23: Jones Beach State Park, Wantagh, NY (Long Island).  516-221-1000  
    All seats reserved.  Tickets go on sale 5/15 at Ticketmaster and at the
    Jones Beach box office. TM charge by phone:  212.307.7171 or
    516.888.9000 
   
24: Great Woods, 885 South Main St./Rt. 140, Mansfield, MA  508-339-2331
    (outdoor venue;  south of Boston).  Reserved (covered) and GA (lawn).
    Tickets on sale on 5/15 at Ticketmaster charge by phone:  617.931.2000.

25: Waterloo Village, Waterloo Rd., Stanhope NJ  201-347-4700
    General admission
    Tix on sale 6-4 thru ticketmaster and Waterloo village Box office

27: Classic Amphitheater (w/ HORDE), 600 E. Laburnum Ave., Richmond, VA
    804-228-3233
    reserved and general admission; tix on sale 6-11 at ticketmaster, state
    fair BO, and Classic Amphitheater BO.

28: Grady Cole Center, 310 N. King's Dr., Charlotte, NC  704-336-2462
    general adm., tix on sale June 26 at ticketmaster and Grady Cole Center
    BO.

29: Correction:  Tenessee Theater, Gay St.  Knoxville TN  615-523-2665 
    reserved; tix on sale 6-18 at bijou theater BO 615-522-0832, also at
    Cat's records, local outlets

30: Starwood Amphitheater, 3839 Murfreesboro Rd., Antioch TN (suburb of
    Nashville).  615-641-5800
    General Adm; tix on sale 6-12 at ticketmaster and Starwood Ampith. BO

31: The Masquerade Music Park, 695 North Ave., Atlanta GA  405-577-8178
    General admission; on sale June 12 at Ticketmaster and Masquerade BO
    
AUGUST:
-------
2:  Cuban Club Plaza, 2010 Republica de Cuba North, Tampa FL  813-247-3319
    general admission; tix on sale 6-19 at Ticketmaster and Ritz BO, local
    outlets

3:  Bayfront Park Amphitheater, 310 N. Biscayne Blvd., Miami FL
    305-358-6626
    general admission; tix on sale 6-18 at Ticketmaster 

6:  Cincinnati Zoo Peacock Pavillion, 3400 Vine St., Cincinnati OH
    513-559-7723
    general admission; tix on sale now at Ticketmaster 

7:  Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, 9993 Allegheny Rd., Darien Center NY
    716-559-4641
    reserved and general admission;  tix on sale 6-12 at Ticketmaster and
    Darien Lake BO  Camping Available, see 'Rumors/Other info' below.

8:  Nautica Stage, 2014 Sycamore, Cleveland OH  216-247-2722
    general admission; on sale 6-12 at Ticketmaster 

9:  Molson Pl, Toronto, Ontario  416-324-9777
    reserved; on sale at Ticketmaster on 6-17

11: Eastbrook Theater, 2525 Lake Eastbrook Blvd., Grand Rapids MI
    616-942-1328
    General Admission; tix on sale at Ticketmaster on 6-11

12: Meadow Brook Music Festival, Walton Blvd, Rochester MI (~Detroit)
    313-396-7600
    reserved and General Admission; tix on sale at Ticketmaster on 6-12

13: Murat Theater, 510 N. New Jersey, Indianapolis, IN  317-841-8900
    reserved; on sale at Ticketmaster on 7-10

14: World Music Theater, 19100 S. Ridgeland Ave., Tinley Park, IL
    708-614-1616
    reserved and General Admission; on sale 6-18 at Ticketmaster, tower
    records, and rose records

15: McCauley Theater, Louisville KY  502-562-0194
    reserved; tix on sale July 9th at Ticketmaster and the KY Center for the
    Arts Box Office

16: American Theater, St. Louis MO
    on sale 7-10 @ ticketmaster

17: Memorial Hall, 600 N. Seventh St., Kansas City, KS  913-371-7555
    reserved and General Admission; tix on sale at ticketmaster 6-12

20: Red Rocks Amphitheater, 16351 Highway 93, Morrison CO  303-694-1234
    reserved and GA; tix on sale 7-12 at ticketmaster

21: Salt Air, 1 Salt Air Dr., Salt Lake City, UT  801-335-5522
 ^   General Admission; tickets at Smith's Tix 800-888-8499 on sale 7-17
 |
 L____ NOTE CHANGE IN DATE!!!  (old date was the 22nd of August.)


24: Commodore Ballroom, 870 Granville St., Vancouver BC  604-683-4233
    General Admission; tix on sale 7-10 at ticketmaster, Boom records, Track
    records

25: Paramount Theater, 901 Pine St., Seattle WA  206-682-1414
    reserved; tix on sale at ticketmaster on 6-26

26: Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall, 1111 SW Broadway, Portland OR
    800-992-8499
    reserved; tix at Fastixx on 6-26

28: Greek Theater, Hearst at Gayley Roads, Berkekley CA  415-541-0800
    General Admission; tix through BAss 510-762-2277 on 7-18


Other non-hotliine announcements, rumors, *UN*-confirmed shows:  
(note: if I haven't heard it on the hotline, it ain't confirmed!)
=================================================================

From: [email protected] (Jens Rodenberg)
> The I Love NY Travel Guide just came in the other day (call 800-CALL-NYS
> to get one), and it has some camping info for the Darien Center area:
> 
> Darien Lakes State Park  10289 Harlow Rd. off Rt. 20     716-547-9242  $10
> Darien Lake              9993 Allegany Rd. on Rt. 73     716-599-2211  $25
> Skyline Resort           10933 Town Line Rd. off Rt. 20  716-591-2021  $19
> 
> I just called the state park, which referred me to the state park camping
> phone number (800-456-CAMP)


From: [email protected]
> flyer advertising PHISH at the Starwood Ampitheatre right ouside
> Nashville.  The flyer says that the show will not be in the main
> ampitheatre which explains to us that know the venue why there are no
> reserved seats for the show.  The show is the first of its kind at
> Starwood.  It's called the "Phish Plaza Party" and will be held in the
> plaza area behind the hill.  

==========================================================================
                        End of Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

           TREE ANNOUNCEMENT:   Phish @ Great Woods, 7-24-93


My SV-255 was patched out of a D5 running Sennheiser 421 cardioids about 30'
back onto the lawn in the center.  The mix is probably one of the best I
have, and the overall sound quality of the tapes is very good, with a
Yee-Haw Factor of only 6 (on a 10 scale ;-).  Besides, they played one of my
favorite (rarely heard live) tunes:  The Mango Song!  8-)  

The show fits on two 90 minute tapes.  I'll accept replies through Friday,
August 6th.  Please reply to this note with the following info...

name:
e-mail:
tree status: (branch, leaf, etc.)
anything else important:


Setlist...

7-24-93 - Great Woods, Mansfield, MA
====================================

Llama
Horn
Nellie Cane
Divided Sky
Guelah Papyrus
Rift
Stash
Mango Song
Bouncing Around The Room
Squirming Coil

2001 Theme->
Split Open & Melt
Fluffhead
Maze
Glide
Sparkle
Mike's Song->
Jerusalem City Of Gold->  (English translation)
Weekapaug Groove
Purple Rain
Daniel
Good Times Bad Times

Golgi Apparatus
Freebird  (a capella)

>Freebird  (a capella)


The 15 minute guitar solo must have been a bitch.

tim

>>Freebird  (a capella)

>The 15 minute guitar solo must have been a bitch.

it didn't quite last 15 minutes, but they did do the guitar solo as a vocal
jam

they're getting an awful lot better at vocal harmonies; listen to a tape from
around 1987 with Halley's Comet to see how bad they used to be

- rich

    Count me in.  I was almost doubled over in laughter when fishman
    started singing prince!
    
    Mike Bourdess
    est::bourdess
    branch
    
    thanx Jeff,
    
    		Mike

    oh yeah Jeff, if you're still looking for things to fill up my tapes, this
    would do just fine!  I'll still be a branch tho' if needed.
    
    

re: <<< Note 237.270 by EST::BOURDESS >>>

That's a deal, Mike!

    
    Let's try this again...
    
    
    MJ Connors
    ISLNDS::CONNORS_M
    Leaf
    
    

    I'll leaf off Mike....
    
    :), danielle

	My first Phish show and it was excellent!

	aoxoa::stanley
	leaf

		Thanks!

		  Dave

Who is Jeff Mogielnicki?  A former/current DEChead??  

There won't be that many DECheads signing up for this tape, so it's okay if
our friends tag along.  But in the future, please ask and/or let me know if
you're going to forward my notes outside the notesfile/Digital before doing
so.

Thanks, 8-)


- jeff_w/_Mod_hat_on_8-)


-----------
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Jeff Mogielnicki" 26-JUL-1993
        18:31:00.63
To:	subpac::maggard
CC:	
Subj:	Phish 7/24/93 Great Woods 

[ messasge deleted to protect the innocent ;-) ]

    Ooops...sorry.  Didn't realize that this was only being offered
    internally!  Jeff works with my wife and I brought him to Phish on
    Saturday.  You met him before the show...remember?
    
    This mail didn't get any farther than just to Jeff.
    
    	dave
    

No problem, Dave.  Now I remember Jeff... %-)      


> Didn't realize that this was only being offered internally!  

I only posted the announcement in here, but there's no problem with our
friends signing up too.  I was just a little confused as to why people
outside Digital were sending me tree requests ... and I started to get
flashbacks of organizing my last (phish-net) tree!  %-)


Looks like it's time for me to switch to decaffeinated...

8-)

- jeff

e-mail: nova::freiwald
tree status: leaf

Thanks! 

:-Chuck

    Well, I don't usually do audience tapes, but since this was my first
    Phish show, what the heck!  (Also, Roz wants to hear the Hebrew tune.)
    
    I can be an analog branch.
    
    	dave
    

    
    I don't believe the Probz is going to be on an audience tape tree!
    Who the hell is logged into his account!   Get out now or else!
    
    	;^)
    

    it's NOT_probz_dave! his alter ego! (I've seen him a few times out here
    in Colo!) %^)
    
    rfb

      I knew I could count on jeff to get me tapes!!!! :-) :-)
    That was one of the hottest shows I've been to in a long time!!!
    
      Dave Benjamin
     Salem::Benjamin
    leaf or branch (pereferably no NR...thanks)
    
       Thank you very much, in advance...I can't wait to here that "Split
    Open and Melt" again....!!!   :-)

    
    
    WMOIS::HORNE_C
    
    (JUST A LEAF).......great greatwoods show can't wait to hear it...
    
    thanks,
    
    HORNET

    Add me in.  I can branch if need be. (It makes me more likely 
    to do something about it.  I think I'm still keeping a 
    b!branch or two waiting on blan!!)
    
    Pete Thompson                  [email protected]
    24 Vine St.
    E, Douglas, MA 01516

    Jamie Ide
    studio::ide
    branch
    Dolby C

    
    Jamie?!?!?!?!?!!?
    
    what's up with that dude???  got another wobbly table leg that needs
    bracing???  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)  :^)
    
    					da ve

    Hey, I like Phish, in fact I've been listening to them for eight years. 
    The "wobbly table" was some sort of Gerry Phish master degaussing
    joke.  I think I was picking on Rich, and after yesterday he really
    owes me one.  :-)
    
    Besides, those DAT cases crack too easily.
    
    Jamie

    D.E. Maynard
    pkhub2::mrtech
    leaf
    

    I do suppose it is time to get aquainted with all of you.  My name is
    David, and I have a summer job with Telecomm out of Marlboro.  I need
    to thank Mike B. for helping me struggle my way through the files.  I
    have been following Phish since the Goddard days, and I never knew just
    how many professionals were actually still into the underground music
    circut.  I would like to help out with the game, and offer a video of a
    Phish show dated around Janurary 1989, at the UMASS Student Union
    Ballroom.  A good friend of mine has promoted a few shows, including
    the Greenfield 89' shows, and he has lotsolotsolots of neat old Phish
    artifacts.  Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the ropes, so I am
    assuming the right people will contact me.  
    					I hope this gets added.
    							David
    

    OOOPS I guess you will need this here mail address to get ahold of me
    huh?  PKHUB2::MRTECH I hope to hear soon.	
    					David
    

re: Phish video

Howdy David!

do you happen to have 2 VCR's to be able to make copies?  working out the
logistics of a video tape tree could be a bit more complicated than with audio

don't have any phish video, it would be nice to get some (i also want to get
ahold of a copy of the Elektra promotional video that has footage from the
11/28/92 Portchester show, since i wandered down to front-row center and have
my happy face plastered across several crowd scenes)

- rich

    Rich,
    	Hey this is David, yes I have two vcr's.  However there is a slight
    problem as of now.  My parents have a summer cottage in Canada, and
    they have taken one of the vcr's, and all of the video's with them.  I
    have talked to Dad, and asked him to find the tape.  He has not been
    too quick to respond, but he will mail the tape to me when he finds it. 
    Do you have any interest in trading other Phish collectables?  The
    reason I ask is because I have been gathering any and all Phish stuff I
    can get my hands on.  Some of the stuff I have is Posters of early
    shows, the first Rolling Stone editorial on the band, several boots
    (none on D.A.T. though), newspaper clippings, tix stubs, and a few
    other pic's and things.  I would also like to add that I'm a musician,
    and with a little assistance I am capable of writing the lyric and
    chord arrangement to some of the songs.  Also I am very exited to
    recieve the Great Woods show because that will be like a Babe Ruth
    baseball card, when it comes to trading back up at UMASS.  
    		                                        DANGLE YOUR STASH
    							David
   

> The reason I ask is because I have been gathering any and all Phish stuff
> I can get my hands on.  

Then you best not come over to our house ;-) ;-) ;-)

...or if you do, do so at your own risk!  8-)



- The other phourty-seven-Ledgewood phish-head.

    What does DAT mean?  I've been over to your house many of times yet I've 
    never heard the term DAT mentioned once.  ;') ;') 
    
    :), danielle

>    What does DAT mean?

DAT means nothing by itself; it only takes on true meaning when used in the
context of "anal DAT taper"

;^)  ;^)  ;^)

/r

re:     <<< Note 237.265 by SUBPAC::MAGGARD "Careful with that AXP Eugene!" >>>
                           -< Phish tree -- 7-24-93 >-



>           TREE ANNOUNCEMENT:   Phish @ Great Woods, 7-24-93
 
Any word on the Phish tree?  I can't wait to hear that show again!

		Thanks,

		  Dave

Here's the 7-24-93 Phish @ Gratewoods Tree.

I'll be making all the branch tapes via Sony DTC-670 DAT -> 
Nakamichi CR-2A without Dolby NR except where requested... ...which 
may explain the layout. :-)

EST::BOURDESS               !Mike           Branch
    ISLNDS::CONNORS_M       !MJ             Leaf
    BINKLY::DEMARSE         !Danielle       Leaf
    PKHUB3::MRTECH          !Dave           Leaf
NECSC::LEVY                 !Dave           Branch
    [email protected] 	!Jeff Mogielnicki    Leaf
    MSBCS::STANLEY          !Dave           Leaf
    NOVA::FREIWALD          !Chuck          Leaf
SMURF::PETERT               !Pete           Branch
    SALEM::BENJAMIN         !Dave           Leaf (no Dolby)
    WMOIS::HORNE_C          !Hornet         Leaf
STUDIO::IDE                 !Jamie          Branch (Dolby C)


Branch people should send two 90 minute blanks and return postage to:

    Jeff Maggard
    47 Ledgewood Rd.
    Framingham, MA 01701


Happy taping!

- jeff

	Yikes, 33% daves!!!!!!!!!!!

...i know it's late, but is there any chance of squeezing
in one more leaf?  I'm about to go outta town for two 
weeks, but when I return I'd be interested in hangin'
off of a branch somewheres....pleeeez?

tim

    Tim - I'd be happy to make copies for ya.
    
    	dave
    

    Well I am exited to hear the Great Woods tape.  The weekend of the show
    I was at a wedding, sending off one of my best friends.  After the
    reception (around 3:00 am), I ran into a group of buddys who had
    attended the show.  These guys were still bugeyed from the night, and
    they convinced me that I missed a swell concert.  Hope to get it soon. 
    Rich my message about the video has finally sunk in up in Canada, I
    should recieve the tape soon.  
    				MAGILLAMAGILLAMAGILLAMAGILLALLAMAMAGILLA
    							DAVID.

Uhhh... ...what's the status of this beast?

I belive I've sent tapes to Dave Levy and PeterT... ...and since Mike is
gone, I can take over that branch: (MJ, Danielle, Dave::MRTECH), please
send me e-mail if yer still interested.  

- jeff


---------------

Here's the 7-24-93 Phish @ Gratewoods Tree.

I'll be making all the branch tapes via Sony DTC-670 DAT -> 
Nakamichi CR-2A without Dolby NR except where requested... ...which 
may explain the layout. :-)

EST::BOURDESS               !Mike           Branch
    ISLNDS::CONNORS_M       !MJ             Leaf
    BINKLY::DEMARSE         !Danielle       Leaf
    PKHUB3::MRTECH          !Dave           Leaf
NECSC::LEVY                 !Dave           Branch
    [email protected] 	!Jeff Mogielnicki    Leaf
    MSBCS::STANLEY          !Dave           Leaf
    NOVA::FREIWALD          !Chuck          Leaf
SMURF::PETERT               !Pete           Branch
    SALEM::BENJAMIN         !Dave           Leaf (no Dolby)
    WMOIS::HORNE_C          !Hornet         Leaf
STUDIO::IDE                 !Jamie          Branch (Dolby C)


Branch people should send two 90 minute blanks and return postage to:

    Jeff Maggard
    47 Ledgewood Rd.
    Framingham, MA 01701


Happy taping!

- jeff

Let's see.  Got mine.  Sent off to  SALEM::BENJAMIN, 
working on WMOIS::HORNE_C.  Probably send off to Curt by the end of the
week.

PeterT

>    PKHUB3::MRTECH          !Dave           Leaf

you may or may not be able to get in touch with dave via e-mail; if not, try
calling him at 508-529-6939

- rich

From: [email protected]
Subject: New Year's shows - complete info
Date: 13 Oct 1993 12:26:14 -0400
Reply-To: [email protected]


Here's the hotline update I recorded this morning:
(you can reach the Phish hotline at 617.862.7820) 

On December 28, Phish will play at Bender Arena at 4400 Massachusetts Avenue NW
on the American University campus in Washington DC.  The show starts at 7:30; 
the doors will open at 6:30.  This show will be general admission.  Tickets 
will be available at  930 Club (930 F Street NW, Washington DC - no service 
charge) and TicketMaster (service charge varies by state - DC area service 
charges are $3.25 per ticket at outlets, $4.50 per ticket charge-by-phone).  
For further information about this show you can call 202.885.3267 noon-6 p.m. 
EST.
 
On December 29, Phish will play at New Haven Coliseum, at 275 South Orange 
Street in New Haven Connecticut.  The show starts at 8:00 and the doors will 
open at 7:00.  This show will have  reserved seating.  Tickets will be 
available at New Haven Coliseum Box Office (no service charge) and 
TicketMaster (Connecticut service charges: $2.75 per ticket at outlets, 
$3.75 per ticket plus $2.55 per order charge-by-phone).  If you have any 
questions about this show you can call 203.772.4200.
 
On December 30, Phish will play at Cumberland County Civic Center, at One Civic 
Center Square in Portland Maine.  The show starts at 7:30 and the doors will 
open at 6:30.  This show will be general admission.  Tickets will be available 
at the Civic Center box office (no service charge in person, $1.50 per ticket 
to charge by phone - 207.775.3458) and TicketMaster (Maine service charges: 
$2.25 per ticket at outlets, $2.75 per ticket charge-by-phone).  For further 
information about this show you can call 207.775.3481.
 
On December 31, New Year's Eve, Phish will play at The Centrum, at 50 Foster 
Street in Worcester Massachusetts.  The show starts at 9:00 and the doors will 
open at 7:30.  This show will have reserved seating.  Tickets will be available 
at the Centrum Box Office (no service charge) and TicketMaster (Massachusetts 
service charges: $3.50 per ticket at outlets, $4.50 per ticket plus $1.80 per 
order charge-by-phone).  If you have any questions about this show you can call 
508.755.6800.
 
Once again, tickets for these four shows go on sale on November 6th at 10 a.m.  
Please note that all shows will start promptly at the designated show time, and 
there will be no opening acts; so if you'd like to catch the beginning of the 
show, get there early!
 
For the four holiday shows, there will be a section of seats reserved for 
taping.  For the reserved seating shows, in New Haven and Worcester, tickets 
for these seats will be available by mail order only.  For the general 
admission shows, seating in the tapers' section will be available on a 
first-come-first-serve basis when you arrive.  The mail order at this time 
will for tapers' tickets only; if it goes well, we hope to expand to offering 
regular tickets in the future -- but thatUs not happening yet.  Only a limited 
number of seats will be held for this mail order.  These seats will be directly 
behind the soundboard and the view from them will be somewhat obstructed.  
So that there will be enough taping seats for the folks who actually need them, 
please don't order these tickets unless you intend to tape.  A taper's ticket 
will be required in order to bring recording equipment into the show.

Here are the instructions for mail ordering Phish tapers' tickets.  
Orders will be filled on a first-come first-serve basis by postmark.  
All orders must be postmarked on October 21, 22 or 23 so that we can get them 
back to you before the regular tickets go on sale.  Orders postmarked before 
October 21 or after October 23 will not be filled.
You may order a maximum of two tickets per show.  You may order both shows in 
one envelope.  Each person may send only one order; duplicate orders will not 
be filled.  Send your order in a #10 (legal) size envelope.  Put your return 
address on the outside of the envelope, and also write on it which shows you 
are ordering tickets for, and how many tickets for each show.  In your order 
please include a 3x5 card with your name, address and telephone number in the 
upper left hand corner.  Write on the card which shows you are ordering tickets 
for, and how many tickets per show.  Also enclose a self-addressed, stamped #10 
(legal size) envelope with 29 cents postage.
Ticket prices are as follows:  New Haven, $20.00 per ticket, and 
Worcester, $24.00 per ticket.  These prices include a $1.50 per ticket handling 
charge.  Payment must be in the form of a postal money order or an American 
Express money order only; no personal checks.  The money order should be made 
payable to Phish.  If you wish to have your tickets sent to you by registered 
mail, add $6.00 to your payment for this service.  Keep your receipt; if we 
cannot fill your order, we will return your money order to you.  Send your 
orders to:  Phish Tapers Tickets, P. O. Box 219, Lexington, MA  02173.  
We hope to have all orders returned, filled or unfilled, by the regular ticket 
on-sale date of November 6.  If you haven't received your order by November 5, 
you may call 617.862.7669 between 10 am and 6 pm EST to check on the status of 
your order.  Thank you for your cooperation with our efforts to accommodate 
taping at Phish shows; we hope that this approach will work out well for 
everyone.  
 
  If you would like to be on the mailing list for the Phish newsletter, send 
your address on a postcard to Phish Mailing List, P. O. Box 219, Lexington, 
Massachusetts, 02173.  If you're correcting your address with us, let us know 
both the old one and the new one so we can keep our records accurate.  

The new newsletter went into the mail today - if you're currently on the
list, you should receive it within the coming week.


Shelly

I've contacted all my leaves.  Awaiting tapes from Chuck and Jeff.  Dave S.
has his.

	dave

    The big advantage of Dolby C becomes apparent: I'm a lone branch.  I'll
    get some blanks in the mail.
    
    I hope they've upgraded their sound system for the big halls.  Selling
    out the Centrum will really open some eyes in the industry.
    
    Today's Globe Calender section has an article on band techs.  One of
    the techs they spotlight is Phish's Brad, who got his job by showing up
    early for a New Mexico gig and helping unload equipment for free
    admission.
    
    Jamie

The Centrum? 

Sheesh, a little hubris goes a long way these days.

for a band who likes to distance themselves from the "dead" scene, their
mail order is hauntingly familiar!

...cuz it's being setup by Deadheads, no doubt...;-)

tim

re: mailorder

Yup, deadheads ;-)  Please remember that it's only for taper's tickets for
two of the shows ...


re: tour info

I've added some info to what Rich posted -- mostly directions and
box-0ffice/TicketBastard numbers.  Sorry for the repeat info, but all 
the stuff Rich posted is in here, so if ya wanna save/print it, use 
this one ;-)

- jeff


==========================================================================
                        The Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

Last Updated: 14 October 1993
Info Updated: ***NEW YEARS INFO***


Latest info from the Phish Hotline (617-862-7820) as of 14 October 1993:
========================================================================
New Year's info is on the hotline, tickets on sale Nov 6th, 10am.  Taper's
tickets for reserved shows (New Haven and Worcester) available via mail
order, MO dates are Oct 21,22,23.  See below for instructions (similar to
GDTS).  [Ticket prices for Mail-order taper's tickets are known, but prices
for regular folks, and for the gen. adm. shows are unknown.  Expect to pay
between $20 and $30 per ticket, plus any service charges.  - jgm]

All correspondence (Phish Update snail-mailing list, fan mail, merchandise,
etc.) should be mailed to:  
    Phish
    P.O. Box 219
    Lexington, MA 02173
If you're correcting your mailing list address, please let them know both
the old one and the new one so they don't add to the landfill problem!


Ticket Agencies & Numbers:
==========================
Boston MA:      TicketMaster    617-931-2000
Hartford CT     Ticketmaster    203-525-4500 
New Haven CT    Ticketmaster    203-624-0033 
Portland ME:    Ticketmaster    207-775-3331 
Washington DC   TicketMaster    410-481-7328, 202-432-7328


Holiday 1993 Tour Information:
==============================

On December 28, Phish will play at Bender Arena at 4400 Massachusetts
Avenue NW on the American University campus in Washington DC.  The show
starts at 7:30;  the doors will open at 6:30.  This show will be general
admission.  Tickets will be available at  930 Club (930 F Street NW,
Washington DC - no service charge) and TicketMaster (service charge varies
by state - DC area service charges are $3.25 per ticket at outlets, $4.50
per ticket charge-by-phone).  For further information about this show you
can call the box office (& ticketmaster outlet) 202.885.3267 noon-6 p.m.
EST (recording during off hours).  [Ticket price for DC show??? -jgm]
    [Directions coming soon! -jgm]


On December 29, Phish will play at New Haven Coliseum, at 275 South Orange
Street in New Haven Connecticut.  The show starts at 8:00 and the doors
will open at 7:00.  This show will have reserved seating.  Tickets will be
available at New Haven Coliseum Box Office (no service charge) and
TicketMaster (Connecticut service charges: $2.75 per ticket at outlets,
$3.75 per ticket plus $2.55 per order charge-by-phone).  If you have any
questions about this show you can call New Haven Coliseum BO 203.772.4200,
10a-5p M-F.  BO is open M-F 10a-5p, Sat-Sun 10a-2p.  Accpt MC/Visa/Amex,
personal checks up to 10 days prior, cash only 2 hours before showtime.
[Ticket price for New Haven show??? -jgm] 
    Directions from I-91 south:  
        Exit 1, for downtown New Haven, rt 34 
        Coliseum is on the right.
    Direction from I-95 North:  
        Exit 47, downtown, left hand exit 
        Now you're on the rt 34 connector
        IMMEDIATELY get in rt hand lane 
        Get off at exit 1, 
        Coliseum is on the right.  
    Directions from I-95 south:  
        Exit 47, the rt 34 west downtown New Haven exit,
        IMMEDIATELY get in rt hand lane,
        Get off at exit 1, 
        Coliseum is on the right
 

On December 30, Phish will play at Cumberland County Civic Center, at One
Civic Center Square in Portland Maine.  The show starts at 7:30 and the
doors will open at 6:30.  This show will be general admission.  Tickets
will be available at the Civic Center box office (no service charge in
person, $1.50 per ticket to charge by phone - 207.775.3458) and
TicketMaster (Maine service charges:  $2.25 per ticket at outlets, $2.75
per ticket charge-by-phone).  For further information about this show you
can call 207.775.3481 (administration office).  CCCC can be also reached at
207-775-3825 24hr hotline/recording.  Box office number is 207-775-3458
M-Sa 9:30a-5p.  [Admin. office has no clue; doesn't know about show!
Ticket price for Portland show??? -jgm]
    Directions from I-95:
        exit 6A for South Portland, 
        this puts you onto 295.
        Take exit 7 for Franklin St.,
        Go through 4 lights, take a right at Middle St (5th light).
        Go straight for 3 blocks, CC on right, across from Holiday Inn.
            

On December 31, New Year's Eve, Phish will play at The Centrum, at 50
Foster Street in Worcester Massachusetts.  The show starts at 9:00 and the
doors will open at 7:30.  This show will have reserved seating.  Tickets
will be available at the Centrum Box Office (no service charge) and
TicketMaster (Massachusetts service charges: $3.50 per ticket at outlets,
$4.50 per ticket plus $1.80 per order charge-by-phone).  If you have any
questions about this show you can call 508.755.6800.  [Box Office has no
clue about show!  Ticket price for Worcester show??? -jgm]
    Directions from I-90 (Mass Pike):
        Exit 10 in Auburn 
        Onto 290 east to exit 16 for East Central St.
        Take a left (at end of exit ramp?) onto Worcester Center Blvd.  
        Centrum is at the 4th set of lights on right.
    Directions from Rt. 9:
        Go thru Shrewsbury, into Worcester.
        At a set of lights is the U-mass Medical Center on the right.
        Fork left at next set of lights onto Shrewsbury St.
        Go to very end at rotary, take 2nd right on rotary under a railroad
            bridge.
        Centrum is just after the 1st set of lights after the bridge, on your
            right.

 
Once again, tickets for these four shows go on sale on November 6th at 10
a.m.  Please note that all shows will start promptly at the designated show
time, and there will be no opening acts; so if you'd like to catch the
beginning of the show, get there early!

 
INSTRUCTIONS FOR MAIL ORDERING TAPER'S TICKETS:
===============================================

For the four holiday shows, there will be a section of seats reserved for
taping.  For the reserved seating shows, in New Haven and Worcester,
tickets for these seats will be available by mail order only.  For the
general admission shows, seating in the tapers' section will be available
on a first-come-first-serve basis when you arrive.  The mail order at this
time will for tapers' tickets only; if it goes well, we hope to expand to
offering regular tickets in the future -- but that's not happening yet.
Only a limited number of seats will be held for this mail order.  These
seats will be directly behind the soundboard and the view from them will be
somewhat obstructed.  So that there will be enough taping seats for the
folks who actually need them, please don't order these tickets unless you
intend to tape.  A taper's ticket will be required in order to bring
recording equipment into the show.

Here are the instructions for mail ordering Phish tapers' tickets.  Orders
will be filled on a first-come first-serve basis by postmark.  All orders
mt be postmarked on October 21, 22 or 23 so that we can get them back to
you before the regular tickets go on sale.  Orders postmarked before
October 21 or after October 23 will not be filled.  You may order a maximum
of two tickets per show.  You may order both shows in one envelope.  Each
person may send only one order; duplicate orders will not be filled.  Send
your order in a #10 (legal) size envelope.  Put your return address on the
outside of the envelope, and also write on it which shows you are ordering
tickets for, and how many tickets for each show.  In your order please
include a 3x5 card with your name, address and telephone number in the
upper left hand corner.  Write on the card which shows you are ordering
tickets for, and how many tickets per show.  Also enclose a self-addressed,
stamped #10 (legal size) envelope with 29 cents postage.  Ticket prices are
as follows:  New Haven, $20.00 per ticket, and Worcester, $24.00 per
ticket.  These prices include a $1.50 per ticket handling charge.  Payment
must be in the form of a postal money order or an American Express money
order only; no personal checks.  The money order should be made payable to
Phish.  If you wish to have your tickets sent to you by registered mail,
add $6.00 to your payment for this service.  Keep your receipt; if we
cannot fill your order, we will return your money order to you.  Send your
orders to:  Phish Tapers Tickets, P. O. Box 219, Lexington, MA  02173.  We
hope to have all orders returned, filled or unfilled, by the regular ticket
on-sale date of November 6.  If you haven't received your order by November
5, you may call 617.862.7669 between 10 am and 6 pm EST to check on the
status of your order.  Thank you for your cooperation with our efforts to
accommodate taping at Phish shows; we hope that this approach will work out
well for everyone.  


Other non-hotliine announcements, rumors, *UN*-confirmed shows:  
(note: if I haven't heard it on the hotline, it ain't confirmed!)
=================================================================

[none]

==========================================================================
                        End of Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

Why the heck would anyone be interested in this band "Phish" anyways?

;^)

- DC who needed an excuse to try out Pathworks Conferencing

    They didn't mean to be impolite, but they just couldn't wait.  
    
    Little jimmy's off to camp.
    
    Reba put the stopper in the bottom of the tub-picked up the jar 
    unskrewed the top and let it drop into the water, a little scoop
    of plaster mix some coffee grounds and mud and then she stirred it 
    with a ladel that her grandmother had bought her.
    
    And with that I'm done 
    
    					P.S.
    					     I like to use caps 
    					     skrew the visual
    					     real-estate.
    
    					           DAVE	
    

...just a friendly reminder that MO for Phish NYE run taper tix is
tomorrow...  (This probably only applies to _maybe_ three people... ;-)

- jeff

 
INSTRUCTIONS FOR MAIL ORDERING TAPER'S TICKETS:
===============================================

For the four holiday shows, there will be a section of seats reserved for
taping.  For the reserved seating shows, in New Haven and Worcester,
tickets for these seats will be available by mail order only.  For the
general admission shows, seating in the tapers' section will be available
on a first-come-first-serve basis when you arrive.  The mail order at this
time will for tapers' tickets only; if it goes well, we hope to expand to
offering regular tickets in the future -- but that's not happening yet.
Only a limited number of seats will be held for this mail order.  These
seats will be directly behind the soundboard and the view from them will be
somewhat obstructed.  So that there will be enough taping seats for the
folks who actually need them, please don't order these tickets unless you
intend to tape.  A taper's ticket will be required in order to bring
recording equipment into the show.

Here are the instructions for mail ordering Phish tapers' tickets.  Orders
will be filled on a first-come first-serve basis by postmark.  All orders
mt be postmarked on October 21, 22 or 23 so that we can get them back to
you before the regular tickets go on sale.  Orders postmarked before
October 21 or after October 23 will not be filled.  You may order a maximum
of two tickets per show.  You may order both shows in one envelope.  Each
person may send only one order; duplicate orders will not be filled.  Send
your order in a #10 (legal) size envelope.  Put your return address on the
outside of the envelope, and also write on it which shows you are ordering
tickets for, and how many tickets for each show.  In your order please
include a 3x5 card with your name, address and telephone number in the
upper left hand corner.  Write on the card which shows you are ordering
tickets for, and how many tickets per show.  Also enclose a self-addressed,
stamped #10 (legal size) envelope with 29 cents postage.  Ticket prices are
as follows:  New Haven, $20.00 per ticket, and Worcester, $24.00 per
ticket.  These prices include a $1.50 per ticket handling charge.  Payment
must be in the form of a postal money order or an American Express money
order only; no personal checks.  The money order should be made payable to
Phish.  If you wish to have your tickets sent to you by registered mail,
add $6.00 to your payment for this service.  Keep your receipt; if we
cannot fill your order, we will return your money order to you.  Send your
orders to:  Phish Tapers Tickets, P. O. Box 219, Lexington, MA  02173.  We
hope to have all orders returned, filled or unfilled, by the regular ticket
on-sale date of November 6.  If you haven't received your order by November
5, you may call 617.862.7669 between 10 am and 6 pm EST to check on the
status of your order.  Thank you for your cooperation with our efforts to
accommodate taping at Phish shows; we hope that this approach will work out
well for everyone.  

==========================================================================
                        The Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

Last Updated: 2 November 1993
Info Updated: price info -- ON SALE DATE IS SATURDAY NOVEMBER 6th!!!


Latest info from the Phish Hotline (617-862-7820) as of 14 October 1993:
========================================================================
New Year's info is on the hotline, tickets on sale Nov 6th, 10am.  All
orders (but 2 EXTREMELY poor ones) for taper's tickets were filled and I'm
pretty sure all have been shipped out as of Monday 1 November.

*Tentative* prices for New-Years run tickets (not including fees, etc.):
    DC          $20.00
    New Haven   $18.50
    Portland    $17.50
    Worcester   $22.50

All correspondence (Phish Update snail-mailing list, fan mail, merchandise,
etc.) should be mailed to:  
    Phish
    P.O. Box 219
    Lexington, MA 02173
If you're correcting your mailing list address, please let them know both
the old one and the new one so they don't add to the landfill problem!


Ticket Agencies & Numbers:
==========================
Boston MA:      TicketMaster    617-931-2000
Hartford CT     Ticketmaster    203-525-4500 
New Haven CT    Ticketmaster    203-624-0033 
Portland ME:    Ticketmaster    207-775-3331 
Washington DC   TicketMaster    410-481-7328, 202-432-7328


Holiday 1993 Tour Information:
==============================

On December 28, Phish will play at Bender Arena at 4400 Massachusetts
Avenue NW on the American University campus in Washington DC.  The show
starts at 7:30;  the doors will open at 6:30.  This show will be general
admission.  Tickets will be available at  930 Club (930 F Street NW,
Washington DC - no service charge) and TicketMaster (service charge varies
by state - DC area service charges are $3.25 per ticket at outlets, $4.50
per ticket charge-by-phone).  For further information about this show you
can call the box office (& ticketmaster outlet) 202.885.3267 noon-6 p.m.
EST (recording during off hours). 
    Directions from I-495 (from a marginally knowledgeable box office 
    attendant).
        Take 495 to Wisconsin Ave., exit #?
        Follow Wisconsin to Nebraska (numbers get smaller toward Nebraska), 
        Take a right on Nebraska, go about a mile
        To Ward Circle, 1st street on right on the circle is Mass Ave.
        4400 Massachusetts Ave., American U. is on the left


On December 29, Phish will play at New Haven Coliseum, at 275 South Orange
Street in New Haven Connecticut.  The show starts at 8:00 and the doors
will open at 7:00.  This show will have reserved seating.  Tickets will be
available at New Haven Coliseum Box Office (no service charge) and
TicketMaster (Connecticut service charges: $2.75 per ticket at outlets,
$3.75 per ticket plus $2.55 per order charge-by-phone).  If you have any
questions about this show you can call New Haven Coliseum BO 203.772.4200,
10a-5p M-F.  BO is open M-F 10a-5p, Sat-Sun 10a-2p.  Accpt MC/Visa/Amex,
personal checks up to 10 days prior, cash only 2 hours before showtime.
    Directions from I-91 south:  
        Exit 1, for downtown New Haven, rt 34 
        Coliseum is on the right.
    Direction from I-95 North:  
        Exit 47, downtown, left hand exit 
        Now you're on the rt 34 connector
        IMMEDIATELY get in rt hand lane 
        Get off at exit 1, 
        Coliseum is on the right.  
    Directions from I-95 south:  
        Exit 47, the rt 34 west downtown New Haven exit,
        IMMEDIATELY get in rt hand lane,
        Get off at exit 1, 
        Coliseum is on the right
 

On December 30, Phish will play at Cumberland County Civic Center, at One
Civic Center Square in Portland Maine.  The show starts at 7:30 and the
doors will open at 6:30.  This show will be general admission.  Tickets
will be available at the Civic Center box office (no service charge in
person, $1.50 per ticket to charge by phone - 207.775.3458) and
TicketMaster (Maine service charges:  $2.25 per ticket at outlets, $2.75
per ticket charge-by-phone).  For further information about this show you
can call 207.775.3481 (administration office).  CCCC can be also reached at
207-775-3825 24hr hotline/recording.  Box office number is 207-775-3458
M-Sa 9:30a-5p.  
    Directions from I-95:
        exit 6A for South Portland, 
        this puts you onto 295.
        Take exit 7 for Franklin St.,
        Go through 4 lights, take a right at Middle St (5th light).
        Go straight for 3 blocks, CC on right, across from Holiday Inn.
            

On December 31, New Year's Eve, Phish will play at The Centrum, at 50
Foster Street in Worcester Massachusetts.  The show starts at 9:00 and the
doors will open at 7:30.  This show will have reserved seating.  Tickets
will be available at the Centrum Box Office (no service charge) and
TicketMaster (Massachusetts service charges: $3.50 per ticket at outlets,
$4.50 per ticket plus $1.80 per order charge-by-phone).  If you have any
questions about this show you can call 508.755.6800.  
    Directions from I-90 (Mass Pike):
        Exit 10 in Auburn 
        Onto 290 east to exit 16 for East Central St.
        Take a left (at end of exit ramp?) onto Worcester Center Blvd.  
        Centrum is at the 4th set of lights on right.
    Directions from Rt. 9:
        Go thru Shrewsbury, into Worcester.
        At a set of lights is the U-mass Medical Center on the right.
        Fork left at next set of lights onto Shrewsbury St.
        Go to very end at rotary, take 2nd right on rotary under a railroad
            bridge.
        Centrum is just after the 1st set of lights after the bridge, on your
            right.

 
Once again, tickets for these four shows go on sale on November 6th at 10
a.m.  Please note that all shows will start promptly at the designated show
time, and there will be no opening acts; so if you'd like to catch the
beginning of the show, get there early!


Other non-hotliine announcements, rumors, *UN*-confirmed shows:  
(note: if I haven't heard it on the hotline, it ain't confirmed!)
=================================================================

[none]

==========================================================================
                        End of Phish Tour Info File
     (please send all relevant info to "[email protected]")
==========================================================================

Ticket availability (prices less fees):
---------------------------------------
Bender      ???
New Haven   $18.50, seats still available.
Portland    $17.50, seats still available.
NYE         $22.50; According to the Ticketmaster at 617-931-2000 and the
            Centrum Box office, the show is *SOLD OUT*.  I talked with them
            at around 10:30am today.  
            
But I _JUST_ called the Hartford TM and got a pair of tix in sec 124!!!
The call was placed at 11:50am, Monday, 8 November.  

They must have JUST released some extra seats (perhaps from bad credit
checks from Saturday orders?!)  Go figure.

- jeff



PS -- FYI...
                                                 
Ticket Agencies & Numbers:
==========================
Boston MA:      TicketMaster    617-931-2000
Hartford CT     Ticketmaster    203-525-4500
New Haven CT    Ticketmaster    203-624-0033
Portland ME:    Ticketmaster    207-775-3331
Washington DC   TicketMaster    410-481-7328, 202-432-7328

    This is quite true...I just called Boston TM and they said the show was
    sold out.  I told them I heard there was a new block of tix available,
    and when they checked, I got in...
    
    Check it out.
    
    tim
    

    Are you guys talking about the NYE show?  Anyway, I just called and got
    two tickets for NYE, Upper Side, Section 215.  Grand total:  $55.80
    (yikes!)  
    
    :), danielle

I think that an above_average_percentage_of_college_kids_with_bad_credit is
at work here...  The TM system is freeing up seats after doing credit
checks and finding none ;-)  Looks like TM's computers aren't fast enough
to do 25,000 credit checks all in one day :-)  I'll remember this in the
future -- Watch for 'bounced' tickets on the next business morning!  :-)

FWIW, the NYE show 'officially' sold out on Saturday according to Dionysian
Productions.

There are also 'advertising' seats that were held by the promoter and/or
venue to be used for "good seats are still available" ads to be run at the
last minute -- but that won't be necessary, so they'll be letting 'em go
sooner than the last minute.  Exactly when I don't know, but Shelly said
she'd tell me as soon as she got word from the Centrum.  For all I know
they might've sold 'em to us today.


- jeff_lucky_to_get_decent_seats_after_the_show_was_'officially'_SOLD_OUT_;-)

    So whatever happened to one of the original Phish_heads in here
    Russ Leong? 
    
    

Don't confuse Fish_heads (fans of the Radiators) with PHISH_phans ( phollowers
of the phantastic PHISH).  Very different things!

Russ is still with Digital, I think...but has pretty much dropped out of
all this phun stuff.

	dave

    aha!  you see my confusion ......  
    
    thanks for being gentle with me.
    
    

Russ actually worked downstairs from me here at LKG.  I talked with him a few
weeks ago.  Since then, his office moved and I don't know where he is now...

adam

from the home office in Lexington, MA...

------------------------------

From: Shelly Culbertson <[email protected]>
Subject: Phish New Year's Eve tickets On Sale NOW
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 17:16:47 GMT


Additional Phish New Year's Eve tickets are on sale NOW through
TicketMaster (617.931.2000).  If you want them, this is your chance.
If you don't get them now, there's no excuse for grovelling later.


Shelly


------------------------------

FWIW, I just called Ticket#@%$*( and all they had was section 229.

They're going fast!

- jeff

    I called the last time they had a batch available and all I got were
    'upper side'...blaaahhh....I want section 102 or 103 :)
    
    :), danielle

------------------------------

From: [email protected]
Subject: More New Year's tickets on sale NOW
Date: 23 Nov 1993 16:49:37 -0500
Reply-To: [email protected]


We just released a small number of additional New Year's Eve tickets,
so if you need one, you can call 617.931.2000 right now and order what
you need.  It's only a few seats; these will go very quickly.
(I'm posting this at 4:50 pm EST on Tuesday, 11/23)


Shelly


------------------------------

    Shelly and Liam have put together "phish-info" which is pretty much
   dead-heads for Phish.  Send email to "[email protected]"
   with "subscribe" on a line by itself if you want to join.
 

    That reminds me - who's going to Worcester, NYE?
    
    tim
    

re: phish-info

Sean (aka liam) is setting up this list, and there will be a few authorized
posters (including yours phishly).  I'll be posting my phish-tour-info file
periodically... ...and I'm sure Shelly will be sending her info too (ticket
sales updates, hotline transcriptions, etc.).

The list isn't running just yet, as Sean still has some coding to do --
he mentioned some software_geek_technobabble about a shell wrapper -- but
he promises that it'll be done soon :-)  They are taking subscriptions.
Why he needs to wrap seashells now is beyond me: Christmas was three days
ago!  

re: NYE

I'll be there with Dori (seats in sec 124 row GG I think).  Rich F. will be
going too.  Dori and I will be partyin' it up with a bunch of phish-heads
from the Well (and any Grateful folks who care to join us :-) at the
Marriott before and after the show.  I'm bringin' the bah, compliments of
Seagram Ltd.  I'm looking for a room to put it in though... ...I'm not sure
I wanna sacrifice my room for the paaahhhty! ;-)


- jeff

I have at least one extra for tomorrow night's Phish show, possibly two unless 
I get motivated to actually go - not really in the mood, though.  Face value, of 
course.  Seats are upper level - don't have the section number with me right now.

Send me mail if you're interested.

tim

    I didn't make it to the show, but did catch the WBCN broadcast on the
    1st.  I haven't listened to the tape again, but it seemed like a very
    well-played show.
    
    Are there any soundboard tapes available?  My copy is a bit cut up due
    to tape flips and bad decisions about tape sizes.  The WBCN dj only
    gave estimated set timings about 5 seconds before starting the tape up.
    :-(.
    
    Here's what I have...can anyone fill in the blanks?
    
    	dave
    
    Set I  (approx. 55 min.)
    
    	Llama, Guleh Papayrus, Stash, Mississippi Delta Home (?), 
    	Reba, Peaches en Regalia, ?, instrumental, ?
    
    Set II (approx. 72 min.)
    
    	Tweezer > I'm Goin' Down (?) > Poor Heart > It's Ice, Fee >
    	Possum, Olfactory Hues, You Enjoy Myself
    
    Set III (approx 57 min.)
    
    	Auld Lang Syne, Split Open & Melt > Lizards > Sparkle >
    	Suzie Greenburg, ? , Harry Hood, ?, Tweezer
    
    Encores:  
    
    	Gogli Apparatus, Amazing Grace
    

    I taped the broadcast too, but I used both decks, with 90's in one and
    110's in the other.  Sets I and III fit on one side of a 110 (if I skip
    the Auld Lang Syne at the start of Set III).  Set II was about 72
    minutes long, so there's a flip there, but it worked ok. I put the
    encore at the end of that second set flip, and all went well.
    
    Nice show.  This was my first Phish show since last NYE, which was a
    disappointing one for me.  I was disillusioned at that time about all of
    the fooling around they did, which was a waste of time, IMHO.  The
    cheezy flying chicken and the putz with the lawn mower just didn't do
    anything for me.  In contrast, this years' staging was very
    professional and, with the antics kept to a minimum, NYE-appropriate
    level, I was very impressed.
    
    I arrived at the Centrum at about 7:30pm, and parked in the Galleria's
    covered lot - resigning my parking fate to cost me $10, but they
    apparently were collecting upon exit.  This seems to have been a omen of 
    the type of mismangement for which the Centrum has become infamous. 
    Arriving at the main entrance shortly before 8pm, I settled in for the
    same kind of treatment that I was afforded for the JGB show a month
    ago.  I was not disapppointed.  With less than an hour to showtime, the
    doors were opened, and the security monkeys slowly began the detailed
    frisking of everyone who entered.  Once again, they sprung the surprise
    on the crowd that one door was for men, and the other for women.  Only
    those within ten feet of the door were allowed to know this, however,
    for the obvious crowd control reasons.  Right.
    
    Eventually, I got through the throng, and looked around for someone to
    chew out - I mean, we did this a month ago, kids, didn't we learn
    anything since then?  The first person I found who appeared to be in
    authority (he wore a tie) turned out to be a useless buffoon ("I just
    work here".  "Really?  When?")  Eventually, I found a nice young lady
    with red hair who was sitting at booth labelled "Customer Service", and
    I spent a few minutes 'splaining things to her.
    
    Adequately vented, I wandered around and eventually found my seat. 
    Having endured the Garden for five of the six Dead shows, the Centrum
    was a much more comfortable venue, at least as far as the seating was
    concerned.  Both venues could learn a lot by sending their crowd
    control people to Disney World, but after experiencing the mentality of
    the Centrum supervisors, they'd likely only waste the trip in endless
    trips through "It's a Small World".  One similarity, temperature
    control, seemed initially a problem - by the end of the first set, I
    was roasting.  However, by the middle of the second set, apparently
    someone with control of the HVAC system had taken notice, and there was
    a distinct, cool breeze through my area for the duration of the show. 
    The Garden probably would have had to remove the roof to accomplish
    this feat.
    
    Once inside the hall, the staging was dramatically noticeable. 
    Previous Phish shows had sported some limited abstract art, but little
    in the way of a cohesive, professional presentation.  Tonight was a
    clear departure.  The stage was decorated so as to resemble an
    aquarium, with aqua-tinted plexiglass cornices at each corner of the
    stage and the lighting scaffolds above.  Day-glo aquarium plants
    adorned the stage, with large, florescent fish dangling from above, and
    a giant clam to the rear of center stage.  The fish gently moved about
    throughout the shows, often seeming to bounce with the music.  My kids
    would have loved it...I know I did.
    
    Trey Anastasio routinely floors me.  At times it surprises me that this
    man doesn't spontaneously combust.  From the first song, and throughout
    the entire evening, his energy level was sustained at full thrust - an
    all-out, full-tilt fireball, with a guitar attached.  This year, there
    were no endless, silly fairy tales about some lame dog - no stupid,
    inside jokes with the audience-in-the-know.  Just three solid hours of
    hard driving, and harder dancing music.  Even the usually peculiar
    antics of the cross-dressing, Hoover-sucking drummer, Fish, seemed to
    stick to the subject - Music, not camp comedy.  
    
    After the second set, and shortly before midnight, four divers in
    day-glo scuba regalia were lowered from above into the "aquarium", and
    proceeded across the stage to the giant clam.  Opening the clam, they
    climbed in, and it then closed and levitated several feet above the
    stage.  In a deep voice, the clam (yes, it's a talking clam) counted
    down to midnight, climaxing in a small burst of fireworks as the band
    took the stage again and meandered through a brief Auld Lang Syne,
    their only consolation of the evening to tradition.
    
    Tradition dispensed, Phish blasted off into another hour-long third set
    that barely slowed long enough to take a breath.  Highlights for me
    were Split Open and Melt, Fee, Possum, and a couple others whose names
    have yet to imprint on my brain.  I don't understand the band's
    fascination with the old Neil Diamond ditty, Cracklin' Rose,
    particularly since Fish doesn't seem to know the words yet, but one can
    hardly complain about this  mid-set break to sit down and rest.
    
    Frankly, after last years's show, I was almost ready to hang up my
    interest in Phish.  The self-absorbed foolishness on stage had left a
    lasting negative impression that was completely erased by this latest
    show.  Their vocals have improved noticeably, enough so to do a
    passable a' capella rendition of Amazing Grace as the final encore. 
    Paige on keys and Mike on bass showed the same strong professionalism
    musicianship that rounded out one very tight band, and one very
    enjoyable New Year's Eve - the best I've had in years.
    
    Finding my way out of the show, and over to visit with Jeff M. and Rich
    F., I eventually wandered back to retrieve my truck in the Galleria lot
    at about 3am, only to find the lot deserted, and no need to part with
    that ten bucks after all.  I decided not to complain too loudly about
    the Centrum's management after all, and instead, bought another beer on 
    them.
    
    tim

	Explosive!

	I must admit, for my first Phish show I was completely blown 
	away.  Their playing was excellent, the vocals were lively, and
	the fans were hypo.  For me, what I liked best about Phish was 
	their non-stop climaxing....it seemed just when they were in a 
	decent jam, they'd rip into a tearing climax, and then "explode"
	back into the jam, but at a higher level, this would send the 
	crowd into a dizzinging frenzy!  I like that!!!!!!  It seems there 
	are *very* few bands out there that do that type of stuff nowadays.

	The crowd seemed to be primarily in the 15-25 age bracket and 
	very energetic.  The scene outside was for the most part mellow,
	probably the cold temps. helped get people inside quicker.  
	The large venue atmosphere was great but I hope to see them at a 
	smaller place sometime.  The stage setup was ingenious!

	What a way to ring in the new year!....I'll be back! 8-)
  
	

	 

    In the Globe for NYE, they had a preview of the Phish show and
    had interviewed several fans from around the country who came to
    the Centrum.  One of these was a John Woods from Rochester.
    Anyone know if this is the same Catfish John who used to be prevelant
    in rec.music.gdead, or does anyone know what I'm talking about ;-)
    
    PeterT
    

>    Here's what I have...can anyone fill in the blanks?

from the net (arrows not included)

I                     II                      III

Llama                 Tweezer                 Auld Lang Syne
Guelah Papyrus        Halley's Comet          Midnight Moonlight
Stash                 Poor Heart              Split Open And Melt
Ginseng Sullivan      It's Ice                Lizards  
Reba                  Fee                     Sparkle 
Peaches En Regalia    Possum                  Suzy Greenburg
I Didn't Know         Lawn Boy                Cracklin Rosie
Antelope *            You Enjoy Myself        Harry Hood
                       vocal jam/space        Tweeze reprise
                                                 
                                            E/Golgi Apparatus
                                              Amazing Grace (w/mics)

* w/Tom Marshall on vocals

not positive if that's the real title of the tune after Auld Lang Syne
i heard that some of the instrumental jams during some of the songs were
	really bits from the new album
Ginseng Sullivan had Fish on the Madonna washboard
I Didn't Know had Trey on drums and Fish on vacuum
Cracklin Rosie had Trey on drums and Fish on cymbals

unknowns:  who was the long haired guy that just wandered across the stage?
		(at the end of the second set, i think)
	   what happened to the guy who stage-dived?

the WBCN broadcast left out the wierdness between sets II and III

- rich

>One of these was a John Woods from Rochester.
>    Anyone know if this is the same Catfish John who used to be prevelant
>    in rec.music.gdead, or does anyone know what I'm talking about ;-)

yes, except John J. Wood's nickname is now spelled "Catphish"

i believe he was interviewed via phone (Shelly put something on the net from
the guy doing the interviewing who was looking for people to interview); he
was in town (stayed with us in Framingham) for the Portland and NYE shows

- rich

i just changed the message that gets periodically posted to the PhishNet
telling people about the FAQ file; thought some people here might be interested
in the other stuff that i included:


        *** ANNOUNCING THE PHISH-INFO MAILING LIST ***

A new mailing list, only for the purpose of distributing information, has been
activated.  This mailing list is moderated; there is someone who determines
what is relevent for the list.  Relevent postings will include setlists, tour
(onsale) information, and venue directions.  Among the things will be bounced
are ticket grovels, tape requests, follow ups, and general discussion.  To
subscribe to phish-info, please send email to:

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with the following on a line by itself:

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        *** UPCOMING PHISH PLANS ***

Phish has recorded a new album which is tentatively scheduled for release on
March 11, 1994.  Plans for 1994 so far include a tour of compartively small
venues (theatres where possible) cross-country in April and May, and a return
to large outdoor venues (such as Great Woods) in July.  Spring tour info will
probably be on the hotline (617-862-7820) by the end of February.  As of right
now, no tour dates anywhere have been confirmed, so if anyone hears anything
specific it's just a rumor.


Peace and general phishiness.

GUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOALUMNIBLUESGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBOGUMBO

>not positive if that's the real title of the tune after Auld Lang Syne

two people who have listened to the rough cuts of the new album confirm that
it is not Midnight Moonlight, but is from Down With Disease, a new song on the
album

- rich

Well, it sure sounded like Midnight Moonlight - I mean, it was the right
chords.  I was thinkin' that as I danced to it at the show, especially
since Phish is known for doing such tunes as Rocky Top, Poor Heart, and
such...

I'll have to break out my ol' Peter Rowan boots and compare..;-) ;-)

tim

>especially
>since Phish is known for doing such tunes as Rocky Top, Poor Heart, and
>such...

actually, i believe that Poor Heart is an original written by Mike, after
his 4 track was stolen while in college ("You won't steal my tape recorder...")

- rich

Good point.

I'm sure Poor Heart is an original - but nevertheless, it's the style I was
getting at, whether it's original or a cover.

There are quite a few passages in Phish tunes that strongly resemble other
artists' work, along with covers of bluegrass-style songs like Rocky Top.
Whether it was actually Midnight Moonlight or something else, it was 
definitely the chord progession to Midnight Moonlight.  Kind of reminded
me of the high-speed Midnight Moonlight that Jerry did in November, as a
matter of fact...like Peter Rowan on amphetamines...;-)

tim

>There are quite a few passages in Phish tunes that strongly resemble other
>artists' work

definitely; i've heard numerous songs that have parts that sound just like
Possum, for instance

- rich

    
    so who's going to be mother nature and start a tree for the
    centrum NYE SHOW...????
    
    oh please...
    
    hornET
    

I don't know much about motherhood...

But I'll seed the tree with my FM DATs if somebody wants to do all the hard
work :-)

I don't have the 15 minute long 2nd intermission with the underwater bit --
I didn't want to mess with taping on NYE -- I wanted to have fun instead,
and also have a slightly more romantic setting than the tapers' section for
The Question.

:-)

- jeff_WAY_behind_in_his_taping_yet_asking_for_more_>B-)

> and also have a slightly more romantic setting than the tapers' section for
> The Question.

What, you mean you didn't get The Question down on DAT???

Or, did it get asked, and was the reply a kind one??

PeterT

    re Jeff: No sh!t! During what song, if they were playing at the time,
    did you ask her?
    
    peace,Andy

I asked her at midnight...

re: what song? 
I wasn't really paying attention to the music at the time!  :-)
I guess it was Auld Lang Syne (or however you spell it).

- jeff

    Jeff,
    
    Ya got a lotta class, man.  Seriously.
    
    Good luck.
    
    tim
    

Dude of Life tour:

	Jan 30 - Granny Killiams, Portland, ME
	Jan 31 - Club Baby Head, Providence, RI
	Feb 1  - Iron Horse, N.Hampton, MA
	Feb 3  - Paradise Rock Club, Boston
	Feb 4  - J.C. Dobbs, Philly
	Feb 5  - Wetlands, NYC
	Feb 7,8- Nectars, Burlington VT

the band is:

vocals:	Dude of Life
Drums:	Jon Fishman
Guitar:	Dan Archer
Bass:	Aaron Hersey
Keys:	Phil Abair

    how does this differ from the band Phish, which I've come to know and
    love?
    
    thanx,Andy

>    how does this differ from the band Phish, which I've come to know and
>    love?

the Dude Of Life (i forget his real name) is a friend of the band; he has come
out and sang with them (or at least attempted to - he doesn't have a great deal
of vocal talent, but definitely more than Fishman does) on various occasions;
i've seen him come out on 3 occasions; at Amy's Farm it was kind of nice, but
i must admit i was less than impressed on the other two occasions (albany in
fall 92 and nye 92/93)

so on the occasions that i've seen him, it's been basically him singing with
Phish as his back-up band; oh yeah, and Sophie Dilof (sp?), Page's girlfriend,
joined him on "She's Bitchin' Again" at Amy's Farm; this tour has John Fishman
(a.k.a. Fish) playing drums, but non-Phish members as the rest of the band

it's not something that i'd shell out a lot of money for, but I'll probably
give it a shot and go to the show at the Paradise; i wouldn't waste your money
on TicketBastards - i just plan on paying at the door

- rich

p.s. oh yeah, he's also credited with writing some of Phish's lyrics, but some
of them aren't extremely complicated ("Let's go out to dinner and see a
movie.")

------------------------------

From: [email protected]
Subject: Dude of Life bio
Date: 12 Jan 1994 12:54:32 -0500
Reply-To: [email protected]


        For over a decade and a half, the Dude of Life has been writing songs 
in the tradition of The Velvet Underground, David Bowie, T-Rex and Iggy Pop.  
In his ongoing collaboration with Phish, he has contributed the lyrics to such 
classics as Dinner and a Movie, Suzie Greenberg and Fluffhead, and he 
occasionally appears with the band in various disguises which involve the use 
of tools ranging from lawnmowers to rubber chickens.  The Dude's tour will 
feature songs from his recently recorded project with Phish, Crimes of the 
Mind, to be released in the fall by Elektra.  He lives in New York City.
        Supporting the Dude on drums will be Jon Fishman.  Jon has been playing
 drums with Phish for the past ten years as well as appearing with the Johnny 
B. Fishman jazz quartet.  A native of Syracuse, New York, Jon now lives in a 
dome in Vermont with a habitrail full of wild mice.
        Dan Archer, who plays guitar with the band, is the proprietor and 
engineer of Archer studios in Vermont.  With past appearances with Pork 
Tornado and with J. Willis Pratt to his credit, Dan says, "When the Dude 
calls, duty calls!"
        Aaron Hersey, on bass, is a veteran of numerous New England 
rock'n'roll, jazz, reggae, country and soul reviews, such as Big Bass In Your 
Face, The Fleshspoids, The Martin Guigui Band, and Stanley Reamer and the 
Non-Dairy Creamers.  A fabulous personality and a charming host, his vim and 
vigor have wowed audiences of all ages for nearly a fifth of a decade.
        Phil Abair, keyboards, has been in the music business nearly twenty 
years as a performer, composer, and studio musician.  He has performed as 
vocalist, keyboard player, bassist and guitarist in groups throughout New 
England including The Abair Brothers Band, High Rollers, The Showstoppers, and 
Shattered, a Rolling Stones review that appeared widely in the Northeast for 
over five years.

------------------------------

	The non dairy creamers?  :-))))) heh heh hehe hehe eheh

	Funny!

    how about the Pockets of Congestion?
    

or the Salivation Army

From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: WBCN NYE rebrodcast
Date: 14 Jan 1994 13:41:15 -0500
Organization: Phish-Request, Cambridge MA

The New Year's Eve show will be re-broadcast in its entirety on WBCN
104.1 FM (Boston) on February 23 at approximately 11 pm (right after
the Howard {ugh} Stern show).


Shelly

	I've been listening to the NYE show a lot!  This morning I 
	pulled up to a traffic light while listening to "Bag it,
	Tag it, sell to the butcher in the store" :-) and the two 
	girls in the car next to me were listening to "Open up the
	freezer"....funny scene....
	
	

> "Bag it, Tag it, sell to the butcher in the store" :-) 

Reba.

> the two girls in the car next to me were listening to "Open up the
> freezer"....funny scene....

Tweezer.


:-)

- jeff

	
	

From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: WBCN NYE Broadcast
Date: 22 Jan 1994 11:38:00 -0500
Organization: Phish-Request, Cambridge MA

In article <[email protected]>,
Joe T. Rioux <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>On WBCN, 104.1 in Boston MA that is.
>My brother just told me that they have switched their concert program
>to Saturday nights.  If this is true, it means the NYE rebroadcast won't be 
>on 2/23.

This is correct - the broadcast has been changed to Saturday, Feb. 19, at
11 pm.


Shelly

for those of you who were less than impressed with the Dude of Life during his
appearance at last year's NYE show and weren't planning on going to his show at
the Paradise tonite, rumor has it that Trey will be there too, in case that
might influence your decision

- rich

From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson" 17-FEB-1994 16:54:17.14
To:	[email protected]
CC:	
Subj:	Phish April tour dates (official)


Metropolis (4/5) - 59 St. Catharine St. East, Montreal, Quebec, 
Canada - 514.288.2020 - general admission - tix @ Metropolis, all 
Admission outlets, and at Reservations: 514.790.1245 - on sale 3/5
 
The Palladium (4/6) - 535 Danforth Ave, Toronto, Ontario, Canada - 
416.324.9777 - general admission - tix @ Record Peddler, Vortex, 
and TicketMaster: 416.870.8000 - on sale 3/3
 
Recreation Hall (4/8) - Penn State University, University Park 
Pennsylvania - 814.863.0255 (tickets may be charged at this 
number) - reserved seating (open floor) - tix @ Eisenhower Box 
Office and Schwab Box Office - on sale 3/16 (Penn St. students), 
3/17 general public
 
Broome County Arena (4/9) - 1 Stuart Place, Binghamton New York 
- 607.778.6628 - general admission - tix @ venue box office and at 
TicketMaster: 607.722.7272 - on sale 3/5
 
Alumni Arena (4/10) - Coventry Entrance, SUNY Buffalo, Amherst 
NY - 716.645.2957 - general admission - tix @ Student Union ticket 
office: 716.645.2353, Home of the Hits, Record Archive, New World 
Record, and local Prime Seat locations - on sale 3/4 SUNY Buffalo 
students, 3/5 general public
 
Snively Arena (4/11) - University of New Hampshire, Durham NH - 
603.862.2290 - general admission - tix @ Memorial Union Building 
ticket office, UNH Student Center, and at TicketMaster: 
603.626.5000 - on sale 3/4
 
Beacon Theatre (4/13,14,15) - 2124 Broadway, New York NY - 
212.496.7070 - reserved seating - tix @ Beacon box office and at 
TicketMaster: 212.307.7171 - on sale 3/10
 
Mullins Center (4/16) - University of Massachusetts, Amherst MA - 
413.545.0505 - reserved seating - tix @ Mullins Center box office 
and at TicketMaster: 413.733.2500 - on sale 3/12
 
(4/17 show to be announced later)
 
Bob Carpenter Center (4/18) - University of Delaware South 
Campus, Route 896, Newark DE - 302.831.4016 - reserved seating - 
tix @ venue box office and at TicketMaster: 302.984.2000 - on sale 
3/11
 
Virginia Horse Center (4/20) - State Route 39, Lexington VA - 
804.971.4829 - general admission - tix @ Night Owl Music, Plan 9 
Records, Town & Campus, Crossroads, and other local outlets; charge 
by phone: 800.594.TIXX - on sale 3/2
 
Lawrence Joel Veterans Memorial Coliseum (4/21) - 2825 University 
Parkway, Winston Salem NC - 910.748.1064 - general admission - 
tix @ venue box office and at TicketMaster: 910.852.1100 - on sale 
3/12
 
Township Auditorium (4/22) - 1703 Taylor St, Columbia SC - 
803.252.6530 - general admission - tix @ venue box office, Carolina 
Coliseum box office, and other local outlets; charge by phone: 
803.777.7228 - on sale 3/18
 
Fox Theatre (4/23) - 660 Peachtree St, Atlanta GA - 404.881.2100 - 
reserved seating - tix @ venue box office and at TicketMaster: 
404.249.6400 - on sale 3/12
 
Grady Cole Center (4/24) - 310 N. Kings Dr, Charlotte NC - 
704.336.2462 - general admission - tix @ venue box office and at 
TicketMaster: 704.522.6500 - on sale 3/18
 
Knoxville Civic Auditorium (4/25) - 500 East Church St, Knoxville 
TN - 615.656.4444 (tickets may be charged at this number) - 
reserved seating - tix @ Thompson Boling Arena, Knoxville Civic 
Auditorium and Coliseum, UT Central Ticket Office and at local 
outlets - on sale 3/14
 
SunFest (North Stage) (4/28) - Flagler Drive, West Palm Beach FL - 
407.659.5992 - reserved and general seating - tix @ TicketMaster: 
407.966.3309 - on sale TBA
 
Boatyard Village (4/29) - 16100 Fairchild Drive, Clearwater FL - - 
813.535.4678 - tix @ TicketMaster or charge by phone: 
813.287.8844 - on sale 3/19
 
Visage (4/30) - 6341 N. Orange Blossom Trail, Orlando FL - 
407.331.4343 - general admission - tix @ TicketMaster: 
407.839.3900 - on sale 3/19


Phish hotline:  617.862.7820


Shelly

Date:	17-FEB-1994 16:58:23.52
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson"
Subj:	Phish April Taper Ticket Info
To:	[email protected]

        For selected spring tour shows with reserved seating, 
there will be a section of seats reserved for taping.  Tickets for 
these seats will be available by mail order only.  Only a limited 
number of seats will be held for this mail order.  These seats will 
be directly behind the soundboard and the view from them will be 
somewhat obstructed.  
        So that there will be enough taping seats for the folks 
who actually need them, please donUt order these tickets unless you 
intend to tape.  A taperUs ticket will be required in order to bring 
recording equipment into these particular shows.  Tapers' tickets 
will be available for the following shows in April: Beacon Theatre 
(4/13,14,15), Mullins Center (4/16), Bob Carpenter Center (4/18) 
and Fox Theatre (4/23).
        Here are the instructions for mail ordering Phish 
tapersU tickets.  Orders will be filled on a first-come first-
serve basis by postmark.  All orders must be postmarked 
between March 1 and 4 so that we can get them back to you in a 
timely manner.  Orders postmarked before March 1 or after 
March 4 will not be filled.
        You may order a maximum of two tickets per show.  
You may order any combination of the six shows in one envelope; 
however, since we may not be able to fill all orders completely, 
you must send a separate money order for each show; otherwise, 
if we are unable to provide seats for one show that you request, 
it will be necessary to return your entire order to you unfilled.  
Please note: each Beacon Theatre show is considered a separate 
show, and therefore requires a separate money order.
        Each person may send only one order; duplicate orders 
will not be filled.  Send your order in a #10 (legal) size envelope.  
Put your return address on the outside of the envelope, and also 
write on it which shows you are ordering tickets for, and how 
many tickets for each show.  In your order please include a 3x5 
card with your name, address and telephone number in the upper 
left hand corner.  Write on the card which shows you are ordering 
tickets for, and how many tickets per show.  Also enclose a self-
addressed, stamped #10 (legal size) envelope with 29 cents 
postage for 1 to 4 tickets and 52 cents postage for 5 to 12 
tickets.  
        Ticket prices are as follows:  Beacon Theatre, $21.50 per 
ticket; Mullins Center, $20.00 per ticket; Bob Carpenter Center, 
$20.00 per ticket; and Fox Theatre, $19.50 per ticket.  These 
prices include a $1.50 per ticket handling charge.  Payment must 
be in the form of a postal money order or an American Express 
money order only; no personal checks.  The money order should be 
made payable to Phish.  If you wish to have your tickets sent to 
you by registered mail, add $6.00 to your payment for this service.  
(You can add this fee to any one of your money orders.)  Keep your 
receipt; if we cannot fill your order, we will return your money 
order(s) to you.  Send your orders to:  Phish Tapers Tickets, P. O. 
Box 219, Lexington, MA  02173.  We will do our best to have all 
orders returned, filled or unfilled, by the regular ticket on-sale 
date of each show, though this may not be possible in all cases 
due to time limitations.  If you havenUt received your order by 
March 11, you may call 617.862.7669 between 10 am and 6 pm 
EST to check on the status of your order.  
        Please note:  Due to time and space limitations, it may 
not always be possible to provide taper ticket information in the 
newsletter.  However, it will always be available on the hotline 
and on the Phish.Net, so if you want to be sure not to miss it, stay 
in touch with those sources.  We thank you for your continued 
cooperation.


Phish hotline:
617.862.7820

Shelly

i slightly modified the 3/8 message to include the info for the 4/17 show,
which was just announced today

- rich

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hotline Message -- 3/8/94
 
You've reached the Phish hotline.  This is a new message as of March 
8th.  New Spring Tour information is on this recording.
 
Phish's spring and summer tour will begin in April and go through 
mid-July.  Here are the confirmed tour dates so far, through the end 
of May:
 
On April 5th, Phish will be playing at Metropolis, in Montreal, 
Quebec, Canada.  Tickets are general admission and they are on sale 
now at Metropolis, at all Admission outlets and at Reservations: 
514.790.1245. 
 
On April 6th, Phish will be at the Palladium in Toronto, Ontario, 
Canada.  Tickets are general admission and are on sale now at the 
Record Peddler, Vortex and at TicketMaster: 416.870.8000.  This 
show is almost sold out.
 
On April 8th, Phish will play at the Recreation Hall on the Penn State 
campus in University Park, Pennsylvania.  Tickets are reserved in 
the stands, and the floor is open.  They go on sale March 17th to the 
general public at the Eisenhower Box Office and at the Schwab Box 
Office, or you can call 814.863.0255.
 
On April 9th, Phish will be at the Broome County Arena in 
Binghamton, New York.  Tickets are general admission and are on 
sale now at the venue box office and at TicketMaster: 607.722.7272.
 
On April 10th Phish will play at the Alumni Arena at SUNY Buffalo in 
Amherst, New York.  Tickets are general admission and are on sale 
now at local outlets and at the Student Union ticket office: 
716.645.2353.
 
On April 11th Phish will play at Snively Arena at the University of 
New Hampshire in Durham.  Tickets are general admission and they 
are on sale now on campus and at TicketMaster: 603.626.5000.  Only 
a few tickets are still available for this show.
 
On April 13th, 14th and 15th Phish will play at the Beacon Theatre at 
2124 Broadway in New York City.  Seating is reserved.  Tickets go on 
sale on March 10th at the Beacon box office and at TicketMaster: 
212.307.7171.  The tapers' ticket mail order for the Beacon shows is 
over.

On April 16th, Phish will be at the Mullins Center on the University 
of Massachusetts campus in Amherst.  Seating will be reserved and 
tickets will go on sale March 12th at the Mullins Center box office 
and at TicketMaster: 413.733.2500.  The tapers' ticket mail order for 
this show is over.
 
On Sunday, April 17, Phish will play at the Patriot Center in
Fairfax, Virginia (? near Washington D.C.).  Seating will be
reserved, and tickets will go on sale March 17 at TicketMaster.
Information is not on the hotline yet, but it will be soon.
There will be a tapers' ticket mail order for this show; details
will be available by the end of this week.  
 
On April 18th, Phish will play at the Bob Carpenter Center on the 
University of Delaware South Campus in Newark.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will go on sale on March 11th at the venue box 
office and at TicketMaster: 302.984.2000.  The tapers ticket mail 
order is over.
 
On April 20th, Phish will be at the Virginia Horse Center in 
Lexington, Virginia.  This show will be general admission and tickets 
are on sale now at Night Owl Music, Plan 9 Records, other local 
outlets and you can charge by phone at 800.594.8499.  There 
aren't many tickets for this show left, so if you're planning on going 
you should pick them up very soon.
 
On April 21st, Phish will play at Lawrence Joel Veterans Memorial 
Coliseum in Winston-Salem North Carolina.  Tickets are general 
admission and they will be available on March 12th at the venue box 
office and at TicketMaster: 910.852.1100.
 
On April 22nd, Phish will be at the Township Auditorium in 
Columbia, South Carolina.  Tickets are general admission and will go 
on sale on March 18th at the venue box office, the Coliseum Box 
Office and other local outlets.  You can charge by phone at 
803.777.7228.
 
On April 23rd, Phish will play at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta, Georgia.  
Seating is reserved.  Tickets will be available starting March 12th at 
the venue box office and at TicketMaster: 404.249.6400.  The taper's 
ticket mail order is over.
 
On April 24th, Phish will play at the Grady Cole Center at in 
Charlotte, North Carolina.  Tickets are general admission and they go 
on sale March 18th at the venue box office and at TicketMaster: 
704.522.6500.
 
On April 25th Phish will be at the Knoxville Civic Auditorium in 
Knoxville Tennessee.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will be 
available starting March 14th at the venue and Coliseum box offices, 
other local outlets and charge by phone at 615.656.4444.
 
On April 28th Phish will play at SunFest in West Palm Beach Florida.  
You can call 407.659.5992 for further information.  Ticket 
information will be available on the hotline soon.
 
On April 29th Phish will be at the Boatyard Village Pavilion in 
Clearwater Florida.  Tickets are general admission and they will be 
available March 19th at TicketMaster.  You can charge by phone at 
813.287.8844.
 
There will be a change of venue for Phish's show in Orlando on April 
30th.  The show will not be at Visage as previously announced.  
Please stay in touch with the hotline for further information.
 
On May 2nd Phish will play at Five Points South Music Hall in 
Birmingham Alabama.  Tickets will be general admission and they 
will go on sale 4/2 @ Ticketlink/Fastix: 800.277.1700.
 
On May 3rd Phish will play at The Veranda at Starwood 
Amphitheatre in Antioch TN.  Tickets will be general admission and 
they will go on sale 4/2 @ the venue box office and TicketMaster: 
800.333.4849.
 
On May 4th Phish will play at the State Palace Theatre in New 
Orleans LA.  Tickets will be general admission and they will go on 
sale 3/26 @ TicketMaster: 504.522.5555.
 
On May 6th Phish will play at the Bayou City Theatre in Houston TX.  
Tickets will be general admission and they will go on sale 4/2 @ 
TicketMaster: 713.629.3700.
 
On May 7th Phish will play at The Bomb Factory in Dallas TX.  Tickets 
will be general admission and they will go on sale 4/2 @ 
TicketMaster: 214.373.8000.
 
On May 8th Phish will play at The Backyard in Austin TX.  Tickets 
will be general admission and they will go on sale 4/2 @ Star Tickets: 
512.416.7827.
 
On May 10th Phish will play at the Paolo Soleri Amphitheatre in 
Santa Fe NM.  Tickets will be general admission and they will be 
available @ Candyman and TicketMaster: 505.884.0999 on a date to 
be determined soon.  Stay in touch with the hotline for further 
information.
 
On May 12th Phish will play at the Buena Vista Theatre in Tucson AZ.  
Tickets will be general admission and they will go on sale 3/10 @ 
Alternatix: 602.266.8111.
 
On May 13th Phish will play at Hayden Square in Tempe AZ.  Tickets 
will be general admission and they will be available @ Headquarters, 
Balboa Cafe, and Dillards: 602.678.2222 on a date to be determined 
soon.
 
On May 14th Phish will play at Montezuma Hall at S.D.S.U. in San 
Diego CA.  Tickets will be general admission and they will be 
available @ the Aztec Center box office and TicketMaster: 
619.278.8497 on a date to be announced.
 
On May 16th Phish will play at Wiltern Theatre in Los Angeles CA.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets will be available @ the venue 
box office on April 4th only, which is the first day on sale, and also at 
TicketMaster: 213.480.3232.
 
On May 17th Phish will play at the Arlington Theatre in Santa 
Barbara CA.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale 4/9 
@ the venue box office and at TicketMaster: 213.480.3232.
 
On May 19th Phish will play at the Hult Center in Eugene OR.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale at a place and date to be 
announced soon.
 
On May 20th Phish will play at Evergreen College Recreation Center 
in Olympia WA.  Tickets will be general admission and they will go 
on sale 4/15 @ Evergreen College Bookstore and TicketMaster: 
206.628.0888.
 
On May 21st Phish will play at the Moore Theatre in Seattle WA.  
Tickets will be general admission and they will go on sale 4/15  @ 
TicketMaster: 206.628.0888.
 
On May 22nd Phish will play at the Vogue Theatre in Vancouver, 
British Columbia, Canada.  Tickets will be reserved seating and they 
will be available @ Track Records and TicketMaster: 604.280.4444 on 
a date to be announced soon.
 
On May 23rd Phish will play at the Civic Auditorium in Portland OR.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale 4/15 @ Music 
Millennium and Fastixx: 800.992.8499.
 
On May 25th, 26th & 27th Phish will play at the Warfield Theatre in 
San Francisco CA.  There will be both reserved seating and limited 
general admission on the floor.  Tickets will go on sale 4/10 @ BASS: 
510.762.2277.
 
On May 28th & 29th Phish will play at Laguna Seca off Highway 68 
between Salinas and Monterey CA.  Tickets will be general admission 
and they will be available @ BASS: 510.762.2277 on a date to be 
announced.
 
The April Taper ticket mail order is over.  All correctly-prepared 
orders for the Mullins Center, Bob Carpenter Center and Fox Theatre 
shows were filled.  We received more orders postmarked March 1st 
than we were able to fill for the Beacon Theatre shows, particularly 
for April 15th, so unfortunately some orders for Beacon Theatre 
taper tickets were rejected.  All tickets and money orders have been 
mailed back.  If you have not yet received your Beacon Theatre 
order and need to know the status of it, you can email Shelly at 
[email protected].
 
Phish's new album, Hoist, will be available nationally and in Canada 
on March 29th.  The single Down With Disease has been sent out to 
radio stations, so if you'd like to hear it, let them know.  
 
If you would like to be on the mailing list for the Phish newsletter, 
send your address on a postcard to Phish Mailing List, P. O. Box 219, 
Lexington, Massachusetts, 02173.  If you're correcting your address 
with us, let us know both the old one and the new one so we can 
keep our records accurate.  

    I'm seein more and more Gone Phishin bumper stickers out here in the
    South west, tons in PHX. and saw the new album advertised in Rolloin
    Stone. 
    
    rfb
    

    
    
    Are Phish tickets for April 11th (UNH) sold out yet???
    If they're NOT sold out, my problem is that I purchased the max (4),
    so I can't order anymore anyway... 
    
    My point:
    I'm in need of one (1). That's wun. 
    
    Thanks,
    
    Steve-O 

>    Are Phish tickets for April 11th (UNH) sold out yet???

i think that they have sold out, but you ought to call to make sure.  besides,
even when a show is "sold out", more tickets usually become available prior to
showtime, due to rejected credit cards and unused promos.

>my problem is that I purchased the max (4),
>    so I can't order anymore anyway... 
 
doubtful that's a problem.  i'm fairly certain the max only refers to a single
order.
   
>    My point:
>    I'm in need of one (1). That's wun. 
 
i'll keep my eyes open and let you know if i hear of anything (or if i end up
with an xtra)

- rich

    
    Thanks Rich
    
    re: maximum order: They told me that that was it the max per shipping
    address/household/credit card (or whatever). 
    I'll try anyway.
    
    

>    re: maximum order: They told me that that was it the max per shipping
>    address/household/credit card (or whatever). 

perhaps.  if that is the case (and if there are tickets left i would make sure
of what's what before placing an order that may eventually be turned down),
then i'd say go to your local Ticketbastard outlet and just pay cash.

- rich

Steve Morse had a very complimentary review of the new Phish disc (due out
29-Mar) in the Sunday Globe.

Many guest artists.  Good jams.  Not as much "silliness" as in the past.

Gotta find some bucks to get this one, I guess.

	dave

yup, i read that too.  i wonder if it'll have a mainstream sound to it?

    I heard a track on BOS yesterday (durning their new music hour
    or whatever its called) didn't even know it was them until they told
    me....I would need to hear it again,and not knowing its was them it
    gave me a unbias chance to listen without blowing it off (changing the
    station)  but i enjoyed it....i did find some of their past stuff odd 
    and somewhat not to my taste

Date:	28-MAR-1994 12:25:01.59
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson"
Subj:	Beacon Tickets available now
To:	[email protected]

Additional Beacon Theatre standing room tickets were released
this morning for all three shows, and are available from TicketMaster
now, while they last.


Shelly

>i wonder if it'll have a mainstream sound to it?

i listened to the whole album a few months ago (an elektra promotional copy).
fwiw, it definitely does sound more mainstream and suited for commercial radio.

i still say that their best album, BY FAR, is their first, self-produced one,
Junta.

- rich

Lotsa copies of hoist at Newbury Comix.  Listening now...Julius only has a 
hint of the Phish sound that I'm used to...not bad, just different.

Also picked up Wasserman's Trios while there.  No self control. :-)

	dave

    If anyone has any extras for the 4/11 Phish show at UNH, I'd be
    interested in a pair...
    
    Just thought I'd mention it...;-)
    
    tim
    

I've listened to hoist twice.

It's *very* produced.  The most produced thing that Phish has done.  This
isn't bad...just different. (Hmmm...did I say something similar after I heard
"Built to Last"?)

I think that people looking for their concert sound will be disappointed,
except for the last song - demand.   The first time there is any hint as to
how they sound live is the 7th tund - sample in a jar.

I like this disc.  However, I find that I must listen to it with naive ears. 
By that I mean that I can't expect it to sound like Phish that I'm used to,
because it doesn't!

There is alot of very nice music and excellent production on this disc.  The
guest artists fit in very well.  The tunes are musically pleasing and well put
together.  It ain't live, though, and for folks who really want to hear their
live sound it will be disconcerting.

"Jerusalem City of Gold" put in at the end makes the hair stand up on my
neck...especially after seeing Schindler's List.

I think I'll play it again now...

	dave

    I checked into rec.music.phish for some reviews of "Hoist," and I think
    I'm really starting to dislike the PhishHead crowd.  :-)  There's a lot
    of whining about selling out, but my feeling is that every band wants
    nothing more than a top ten hit.  The ones who turn up their noses at
    popularity and whine about artistic integrity are the ones who don't
    have hit songs.  As Garcia said, "We've been trying to sell out for
    years, but no one was buying."  I hope Phish gets big enough to sell
    out the Moon (and get their rocket fuel back).
    
    Jamie

You have to consider the source of most of the rec.music.phish
traffic - mostly kids...college kids love to whine.  It's
like that on most of the news groups I see - a lot of rather
juvenile behavior that can grate on the nerves after awhile.

It's just a fact of life on the Internet these days.  Too bad.

tim

>You have to consider the source of most of the rec.music.phish
>traffic - mostly kids...college kids love to whine.  It's
>like that on most of the news groups I see - a lot of rather
>juvenile behavior that can grate on the nerves after awhile.

	I'm glad someone else has noticed this and it's not just me.  
	I am college student and somewhat of a youngster but it seems 
	to me that my, and the younger generation is getting silver 
	spooned to death.  I noticed this A LOT when I was college
	viewing in Boulder Colo. last month....I'd hate to see what 
	the whiners are gonna do if the country is faced with a 
	depression or soemthing.....  :-/

	Spoiled brats on the rise!    

>You have to consider the source of most of the rec.music.phish
>traffic - mostly kids...college kids love to whine.

I think the problem isn't just the college kids (it was mostly college kids
when i got on a few years back, and it was a pretty friendly place).  I think
it's a combination of the band's exploding popularity and the Internet's
exploding popularity.  A few years ago the net was populated mostly by semi-
intellectual (i.e. computer literate) people who, in general, had a decent
level of concern for others and a clue about how to behave in a social forum.
But now any bozo who just wants to whine that Phish is selling out has net
access.  Plus, the lower age limit on the net is no longer college kids.  There
are a LOT of high school kids on the PhishNet.  I have a friend who customized
his newsreader to ignore all posts from *@aol.com !

- rich

    alo.com ? who or what is that ?
    
    old fart with his finger on the supernethighway trigger !
    
    :')
    
    ps;
    
    speaking of stuff, what the hell is this BinHex 4.0 mean ? I got a list
    of Clapton Bootlegs in this format and got know idea what to do with
    it.....

>    alo.com ? who or what is that ?

it's aol.com

America Online - what a lot of people that don't have net access free from
work or school use to get net access.  CompuServe and Prodigy are way
overpriced, from what i hear.  and Unix services like the World and the Well
require a small degree of computer literacy.  AoL (and CompuServe and Prodigy)
works from a graphical user interface on a PC.

anyway, there are a lot of high school kids on it.  (although there are a
growing number of high schools now that are on the Internet)

- rich

Ya know, I have a lot of younger friends, and most of them read this
notes file - so I'd like to point out that I'm not trashing an
entire generation by what I said previously.  Unfortunately,
some people take longer to grow up than others, which also seems
to corelate inversely to their verbosity in public forums.  The
less mature the mouth, the louder the noise, so to speak.

So, anyway, for those of you who read what I wrote and immediately
crossed me off your Christmas list - I'm sorry - I didn't mean
YOU!...;-)

tim

    RE: .386
    >some people take longer to grow up than others, which also seems
    
    I hope to phone ya
    
    

    RE: Some people take longer to grow up than others...
    
    bad mouthin me again, eh Grady ?!?   %^)
    
    as long as hate or down-right-meanness isn't part of the post, i see
    nothing wrong with whineing...unless it's business oriented, 
    that's what notes, etc are for!!!!! IMO
    
    rfb

In defense of the whiners, I can understand why folks get frustrated
when their fave. group makes a move that'll gain them tremendous
popularity:

- it isn't the same old thing;  change is hard for some people, especially
  as one grows older.  something changes, it takes a while to adjust

- accessibility becomes limited.  what used to be an "easy ticket" becomes
  a major hassle.  happened with the dead.

- they move to bigger and bigger venues, intimacy goes down.  who in here
  like stadium shows?  wouldn't you prefer seeing the dead at the Wang
  Center or Grateshaft?

if ronnie quit playing the bull for bigger places like the paradise, i
probably wouldn't go.  it just wouldn't be the same..  the bull is nice,
mellow, comfortable, and intimate.  and, it is an awesome experience, 
especially after eating some oats, to sit right up front about 5' away
from ronnie's intense guitar playing... just wouldn't be the same if
i was 50 rows back at grateshaft!

another viewpoint.

I see a lot of mean-spirited attitude, or rudeness out on the Internet
newsgroups lately.  That's the stuff that gets on my nerves.  People
giving each other sh!t just to read their own words - strangers
flaming strangers for no good reason.  Juvenile.

I've been on the Internet (or Arpanet) for almost 15 years, and
it's popularity has drawn a lot of computer etiquette illiterates.
They're annoying.

tim

    
    ......what does any of these last few notes have to do with PHISH....
    
    ......please explain....?
    
    horneT
    

    
    
    sniff sniff....um, digression?
    
    Back to the subject: Hoist
    
    I wanted to listen to it twice before passing judgment, and I just
    finished take two. Here's my worthless ramblimgs:
    
    First, I'd like to say that I never could decide which Phish album
    was my favorite. No matter which one I listening to, I'm blown
    away because they're so damn good! So I was expecting more of the
    same...
    
    It's good (short), has it's (short) jamming moments, as well (short)
    as it's comedy, although less than earlier days. Too many sing along
    songs (short) and not enough music (short).
    
    Did I mention that the album is short? (~50 mins)
    Highlights: Down with Disease (too short)
                Sample in a Jar (too short)
                Demand (or should it be called "Split Open and Melt")
    
    Steve-O_whining_college_student->Phooey
    
    
    

re .391   Ain't it great?  Welcome to ::Grateful.  ;^)

    I'd guess its just where the topic came up, as the problems (if they
    are real or not is another matter for sure) seems to be rooted in the
    Phish net (pun ?) world....relating to the new Phish release string :')
    
    yes we will talk about anything anywhere anytime...unless us Mod are
    bored and put our feets down, but as a mod I see the relation between
    the two and they are growing together as one see :')
    
    Chris

I figure it's always OK to digress in a topic unless it says NO DIGRESSIONS
in the topic title.  It's only when you want to say something that doesn't
relate to anything at all that you put it in the Digressions topic.

-dc		- o
		 ^
		\_/

    > say something that doesn't
    > relate to anything at all that you put it in the Digressions topic.
    
    or you too lazy to look for a topic it should go into....geesh just
    think how hard it be if we had only one note with a million replies :')
    
    well to keep this a phishy type reply...I have only one Phish CD (the
    one with the orange on it) I like to listen to it from time to time.
    
    Chris

re: Hoist and overproduction

Well, if it's as overproduced as the itchy feelin' I'm gettin' from reading
through the previous replies, then I probably won't bother buying it.  The
thing that draws me most to Phish is the spontaneity.  Junta has that, the
rest (pending review of Hoist) don't, IMO.  I thought (and still think) Lawn
Boy was 'produced', and think PoN and Rift were *over*-produced, so if Hoist
is any worse than PoN or Rift, then forget it.  Gimme live Phish or gimme
Dead!  :-)


re: phish-net DACKs

Last week I unsubscribed after 2� years of steady following (been on from
digest #40-ish back in the late summer of 1991).  I had to volunteer to be the
phish-info moderator for the last 6 or so months to keep me going, but now
that [email protected] came into existance, my job was no longer necessary.
Too much DACK noise and nobody left I know... it just wasn't fun anymore.

I think it would be nice to put together an olbie phish-net reunion mailing
list, where all the old netters (whomever is still connected) could still keep
in touch.  I guess the folks on r.m.gd tried (or still do) that on the Wheel,
but considering the flack that an 'exclusionary' list invites, I'm not sure
it's worth it...

- jeff

Jeff - 

If you're yardstick of goodness is Junta or live tapes, then you'll hate
this.

If, on the other hand, you can accept the studio as it's own "instrument" and
a medium that is separate and equal to the stage as an expression of
creativity, you might like it.

I love my live Dead tapes.  I also love American Beauty, Mars Hotel, and other
"produced" records. 

	dave

>in touch.  I guess the folks on r.m.gd tried (or still do) that on the Wheel,
>but considering the flack that an 'exclusionary' list invites, I'm not sure

so thats what the "Wheelies" is about.  I just read r.m.gd looking for
stuff about the good old days :-)  (like the recent discussions about Keith).

josh

> or you too lazy to look for a topic it should go into....geesh just
> think how hard it be if we had only one note with a million replies :')
  
We'd have DEC.MUSIC.GDEAD!!! 
          ^

:-)

- jeff

>    Did I mention that the album is short? (~50 mins)

yeah, it's short, the songs are short, and there's not much jamming.  but i've
kind of accepted the fact that the album doesn't have to have a bunch of
jamming, because that's what live shows are for.  trey said in a recent
interview that a lot of the songs have already changed a lot and won't sound
anything like they do on the album when they're played live.

a quote from a recent interview:

Trey:  The funny thing is,that, uh, believe it 
or not, the one that's going for, for ten 
minutes is, uh, "Down with Disease"
We've never played it live, but, uh, 
praciticing it in rehearsal it's just been... 
smokin'!

which prompted the interviewer to come back with such a thoughtful comment:

That's great cause you can go to the 
bathroom, come back, you're still playing the 
same song,

in case anyone is interested, i think there's going to be some kind of online
press conference on April 2, where the band is answering questions from people
on the net.  not sure how it's organized, but my guess would be IRC (Internet
Relay Chat), which probably isn't available to most people here.

- rich

    I wasn't really digressing - I'm getting something like NINE digests a
    day from rec.music.phish, and most of it is just a bunch of b*llsh*t
    from the collegiate aren't-you-impressed-with-how-smart-i-am set. 
    Yeesh.  I think I'm getting old.  I'd say I need a show, but I just got
    back from three...must be something else.
    
    Dr. Rfb, any suggestions..;-)
    
    tim
    

    I bought Hoist yesterday.  I've only listened to it twice, and I really
    like the new material.  I also like the production values, it's well
    recorded, but not over-produced as far as dubs and multi-tracking.  A
    couple of quick comments:
    
    Riker got reamed!  20 seconds?
    
    Ten minutes of jamming to "Split Open and Melt" with traffic noises
    isn't what I call new material.  The crash at the end reminds me of
    Kiss's "Detriot Rock City," which I'd rather forget.  :-)
    
    Jamie

    tim...drink three and call me in the morning....
    
    rfb aka Dr FeelGrate

>    Riker got reamed!  20 seconds?

exceprts from WIZN (Burlington, VT) interview by Mike Luoma with Trey, Tom
Marshall, and (he looks too much like) Dave:

JULIUS: TM: Picture yourself in ancient Rome or ancient Greece, same 
place I think, and you're Julius Caesar and you're about to take a step.
ML: There's a lot of people showing up in the background there: horns, 
vocals, who's on there?  Fill us in.
TA: That's my fiancee Sue singing in the background there
TM: The most famous one, that I was most impressed with is Commander 
Riker Jonathan Frakes from the Starship Enterprise on trombone.
TA:  There's a bunch of horn players on there:  Donny from Club Toast, 
Eric from Burlington, and there's Riker.  Riker did play.  Let's just say 
he ended up on the cutting room floor.  The truth is, we had the Tower of 
Power, and we had these gospel singers-- the Ricky Grundy Gospel Corral, 
from LA.  Really high energy, great party in the studio, TOP and 
everything.  And then we asked Riker to come in and put this trombone 
thing on top of it and-- he's a good trombone player but you'd have to 
be-- there's some serious players going on at the end so he gave it his 
best shot and we actually had him do a different song, he deserves his 
own song.  (Riker's Mailbox)  Did you ever see the episode where RIker 
played the trombone?
We almost named the album "Riker's Mailbox" because Riker's got this 
mailbox that's a cow, which in Vermont wouldn't seem like such a big 
thing, and you actually stick the mail in the cow's butt.  So we were 
thinking we'd get Riker and Laura [wife Jeannie of "Luke and Laura" fame] 
and we were thinking getting them out there in their bathrobes and we 
stick the mail in the cow's butt and we take a picture and there's the 
album cover!  Ended up getting put on the back burner for Hoist, the 
horse going up, with obvious references in the song you're about to play. 
[confusion] You know, the horse going up, Down with Disease? 
TM:  Trey said it was an obvious reference.  We don't want to do the work 
for you.  Figure it out.

...

ML:  Did recording in LA afford you a lot of these possibilities for 
getting people in?
TA: Definitely.  You know-- RIKER!  What more can you say? 

>    Ten minutes of jamming to "Split Open and Melt" with traffic noises
>    isn't what I call new material.

who said the SOAM jam is new?  i'm pretty sure it comes from some summer '93
show, but i can't remember which offhand

- rich

   <<< Note 237.402 by NAC::TRAMP::GRADY "Short arms, and deep pockets..." >>>

>    I'd say I need a show, but I just got
>    back from three

you need a Phish show :^)

/rich

Like I said, I'm looking for 2 tix to 4/11....got any?

i have one extra ticket for UNH (mon 4/11).  face value plus ticketbastard
charges (i don't remembr the price offhand - probably between $20 and $25).
the show is general admission.  anybody interested?

also, who from here is heading up for the show?  i'd be interested in
carpooling with someone.

- rich

Date:	 2-APR-1994 23:36:10.41
From:	TECRUS::CRL::"[email protected]" "Modem Resurrection Society  02-Apr-1994 2336"
Subj:	Conference Details
To:	Phish.Distribution:;@[email protected]

<non conference info deleted...>

 The Phish Online Conference has been rescheduled due to hardware
trouble.  The Conference will take place Saturday 4/9/94 at 2pm EST.

 Below are the current details about the Phish Online Conference.  Please
make sure you check closer to the conference time for further updates.

 Active participation in the discussion will require direct
Internet access, particularly access to a telnet client.  Please
inquire locally if you are uncertain about services provided by
your site.

 There will be a server on phish.net, port 2001.  People with direct
internet access should be able to connect directly to the conference.
On a Unix computer you would type the command

telnet phish.net 2001

 The address of phish.net is 198.114.157.13 if you cannot resolve the
name.  You will be prompted to type "join email_address," please
type your full email address so we can uniquely identify you.  If the
one server gets loaded late comers may be prompted to connect to an
additional server(s) which will be networked into the conference.

 All questions can be asked with the command "ask."  Questions must be
limited to one or two sentences. "quit" will allow you to leave the
conference.  You will automatically listen in on the conference when
you connect.  The command "help" will list the available options.

 Questions will be funneled to the band for answering.  We plan to make
the server available ahead of time for advance questions.
These questions will be stored until the conference begins.

 Your patience and co-operation are appreciated.  We apologize that the
April 2nd date was postponed due to hardware failure, but the rescheduling 
should provide the time to ensure that the next attempt goes smoothly.

 Sean & Shelly

Date:	 8-APR-1994 12:34:12.57
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "L. Sean Kennedy"
Subj:	Advance Questions by Email for Conference
To:	[email protected]

 You can send questions by email in advance of the conference by sending
mail to [email protected].  These messages will be stored until the start
of the conference, and the band will see these questions along with the
ones submitted during the conference.

 Sean & Shelly

from the PhishNet:

>From: Matt
>Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
>Subject: Billboard!
>Date: 12 Apr 94 01:22:22 GMT
>Reply-To: [email protected]

> HOIST debuted at number 34 on the Billboard Top 200 list this week! 
>Congrats to Trey, Mike, Fish, and Page !

my prediction:  Phish @ Foxboro in summer 1996

- rich

    Did anyone see the Phish show on Saturday 4/16?  They played the
    Mullins at U-Mass Amherst.  It was unbelievable!!!  They didn't even
    pause between songs, not that you could tell what song they were in!! 
    The play two sets, the first one was 1 1/2 hours, and the second one
    went on for two hours!  They have also added a very intense light show,
    at one point the whole band looked like they were beeming up to the
    Enterprise!
    
    Does anyone know if there was a broadcast of this performance?
    
    -Still Befuddled
    
    Garrett
    

there's already a phish note, see 237.*

>    Does anyone know if there was a broadcast of this performance?

highly doubtful.  the only phish shows broadcast on FM have been the past two
new years shows.  but there were plenty of tapers there (although the tapes
that i'm really dying to get ahold of so far from this tour are 4/4, 4/9, and
4/15)

- rich

	I saw the Phish show at UMASS, and yes, I do recall the 
	Enterprise part!!!!!

	Havn't seen any tapes yet!

    I too was at that Phish show!!! $%^*@(& incredible!!! :^)
    
    I went with my friends Dave B. and Jen and ended up hooking up with a
    couple more of Daves friends (Chris and Jen :^). Therein might be a
    possible tape source as well ;^)
    
    I rilly liked that lizards song along with Stash!!! and Tweezer!!! :^)
    
    peace on, Andy

	Yeah, I thought lizards was where it's at!

    don't know if it been stated here in the Phish note but they are going
    to be at GREATWOODS on July 8th and 9th $19.50 $21.50 and they go on
    sale May 14th....
    
    Chris

>                  -< @Greatwoods July 8,9 on sale May 14th >-

they will also be at SPAC on sunday july 10, tix on sale saturday may 7

the complete summer tour schedule hasn't been announced yet.  i'll post it
here when it is.

- rich

    Re:UMass  Oh yeah, how could I forget FLUFFHEAD!!!!

    ran into a cute therapist at the hospitol whilst visiting afriend this
    weekend...she said phish was just in Boulder recently??? said it was a
    terrible show!!! I didn't think they were playing anywhere local soon?
    
    rfb

>she said phish was just in Boulder recently???

i don't think they're heading to colorado until sometime this summer.  the
only show i've heard about so far is red rocks.  and they haven't been to
colorado since sometime last summer.

> said it was a
>    terrible show!!!

impossible.  every tape i've heard from colorado is absolutely amazing.  maybe
it's the mountain air...

- rich

    that's what I thought Rich, but i really didn't know...errr, i
    thought it was someone in here that said the Colo Spgs show was one
    of the worst Phish experiances around?? I was sick that evening, gave
    my tixs away, reciepeants didn't care for the show....
    
    rfb

    I caught Phish on halloween at Colo College 3 or 4 years ago.  Awesome
    show,  I thought the band was possessed that night.  Wild and wierd 
    music.   I went to that Pike Peak Center show last year and wasn't too
    impressed.  they just didn't seem to be clicking that night.
    
    The folks I was with (divide, hoot, etc...) seemed to agree
    
    	 

> i
>    thought it was someone in here that said the Colo Spgs show was one
>    of the worst Phish experiances around??

the worst Phish experiences i've had were the umass spring concert (may '92)
and suny stonybrook (fall '92).  neither show featured anything particularly
noteworthy from the band, and umass had way too many drunk morons and
stonybrook had the worst security i've ever seen (and i think was probably
the only concert i've ever gone to where they made you go through a metal
detector)

- rich

    Anyone know how to get tapers tix for the Great Woods shows?  Or if
    they're need.  I'm asking for Gerry Gladu, the schizophrenic Phishhead.
    
    Jamie

>    Anyone know how to get tapers tix for the Great Woods shows?  Or if
>    they're need.

last year there was unlimited taping on the lawn.  don't know if it was
allowed in the pavillion.  have no clue what it'll be like this year.

i don't know why shelly hasn't posted anything about summer tour dates yet,
since there are clearly numerous announced shows.

- rich

Last year you didn't need a taper's ticket, but you had to tape from your
seat.  My seats were pretty bad for pavillion taping, so I sat about 30' back
in the center of the lawn.  It sounded better back there than most places
inside the pavillion!  (basically every place that wasn't ~15th row center :-)

If they keep the same policy for this year, then tell GerG to get front row
seats, so he can trade 'em for wherever he wants to tape... 

To find out the official Phish policy on taping and venue-policies, call the
Phish hotline:  617-862-7820


- jeff

We just got this week's Newsweek.  There's a full-page article on Phish called
"In a Pond of Their Own".

I haven't read it yet, but this will certainly make tickets harder to 
come by.

	dave

When is Great Woods and the ticketmobster date for it?

tim

    Phish at G.W.....
    
           July 8 and 9 ....tix on sale May 14...

From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson" 29-APR-1994 15:02:16.45
To:	[email protected]
CC:	
Subj:	Hotline Update, 4/29/94


Hotline Message -- 4/29/94
 
You've reached the Phish hotline.  This is a new message as of April 
29th.  Updated Spring Tour information and new Summer Tour 
information is on this recording.  
 
Phish's spring and summer tour will continue through mid-July.  
Here are the confirmed dates for the remainder of the tour:
 
On April 29th Phish will be at the Boatyard Village Pavilion in 
Clearwater Florida.  Tickets are general admission and they are 
available now at TicketMaster.  You can charge by phone at 
813.287.8844.
 
On April 30th Phish will play at The Edge in Orlando, Florida.  Tickets 
are general admission and they are on sale now at TicketMaster: 
407.839.3900. 
 
On May 2nd Phish will play at Five Points South Music Hall in 
Birmingham Alabama.    This show is sold out.
 
On May 3rd Phish will play at The Veranda at Starwood 
Amphitheatre in Antioch TN.  Tickets are general admission and they 
are on sale now @ the venue box office and TicketMaster: 
800.333.4849.
 
On May 4th Phish will play at the State Palace Theatre in New 
Orleans LA.  Tickets are general admission and they are on sale now 
@ TicketMaster: 504.522.5555.
 
On May 6th Phish will play at the Tower Theatre at 1201 
Westheimer Street in Houston TX.  This show has been moved from 
the Bayou City Theatre.  For further information you can call 
713.621.8600.  Tickets are general admission and they are on 
sale now @ TicketMaster: 713.629.3700.
 
On May 7th Phish will play at The Bomb Factory in Dallas TX.  Tickets 
are general admission and they are on sale now @ TicketMaster: 
214.373.8000.
 
On May 8th Phish will play at The Backyard in Austin TX.  Tickets 
are general admission and they are on sale now @ Star Tickets: 
512.416.7827.
 
On May 10th Phish will play at the Paolo Soleri Amphitheatre in 
Santa Fe NM.  Tickets are general admission and they are available 
now @ Candyman and TicketMaster: 505.884.0999.
 
On May 12th Phish will play at the Buena Vista Theatre in Tucson AZ.  
This show is sold out.
 
On May 13th Phish will play at Hayden Square in Tempe AZ.  Tickets 
are general admission and they are available now @ Headquarters, 
Balboa Caf, and Dillards: 602.678.2222.
 
On May 14th Phish will play at Montezuma Hall at S.D.S.U. in San 
Diego CA.  This show is sold out.
 
On May 16th Phish will play at Wiltern Theatre in Los Angeles CA.  
Seating will be reserved and a few tickets remain at TicketMaster: 
213.480.3232.  
 
On May 17th Phish will play at the Arlington Theatre in Santa 
Barbara CA.  Seating is reserved and tickets are on sale now @ the 
venue box office and at TicketMaster: 213.480.3232.  
 
On May 19th Phish will play at the Hult Center in Eugene OR.  Seating 
is reserved and tickets are on sale now at the venue box office and 
other locations.  
 
On May 20th Phish will play at Evergreen College Recreation Center 
in Olympia WA.  Tickets are general admission and they are on sale 
now @ Evergreen College Bookstore and TicketMaster: 206.628.0888.
 
On May 21st Phish will play at the Moore Theatre in Seattle WA.  
This show is sold out.
 
On May 22nd Phish will play at the Vogue Theatre in Vancouver, 
British Columbia, Canada.  Tickets are reserved seating and they are 
available now @ Track Records and TicketMaster: 604.280.4444.
 
On May 23rd Phish will play at the Civic Auditorium in Portland OR.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets are on sale now @ Music 
Millennium and Fastixx: 800.992.8499.  
 
On May 25th, 26th & 27th Phish will play at the Warfield Theatre in 
San Francisco CA.  There will be both reserved seating and limited 
general admission on the floor.  If you plan on taping at the Warfield, 
you will need a general admission ticket.   Tickets are on sale now @ 
BASS: 510.762.2277.
 
On May 28th & 29th Phish will play with several other bands at the 
Laguna Seca Daze festival off Highway 68 between Salinas and 
Monterey CA.  Tickets will be general admission and they are 
available now @ BASS: 510.762.2277.
 
There will be a break in the tour after Laguna Seca, and then Phish 
will play the following dates in June and July:
 
June 9th, Triad Amphitheatre in Salt Lake City UT.  Tickets will be 
general admission and they go on sale May 7th at Triad 
Amphitheatre Management Office, Smokey's Records, Gray Whale C.D. 
Stores, Sonic Garden, and Cosmic Aeroplane: 801.487.9505.
 
June 10th & 11th, Red Rocks Amphiteatre in Morrison CO. There will 
be both reserved seating and general admission; tickets go on sale on 
May 2 at TicketMaster: 303.290.8497.  You will need a general 
admission ticket to tape at Red Rocks.
 
June 13th, Memorial Hall in Kansas City KS.  Tickets will be general 
admission and they will go on sale May 7th @ TicketMaster: 
816.931.3330.
 
June 14th, the Civic Center in Des Moines IA.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will be available April 30th at the Civic Center 
Box Office and at TicketMaster: 515.243.1888.
 
June 16th, the State Theatre in Minneapolis MN.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will be available May 7th at the Box Office & at 
TicketMaster: 612.989.5151.  
 
June 17th, Eagles Auditorium in Milwaukee WI.  Tickets will be 
general admission and they will go on sale May 7th @ the 
Auditorium Box Office and at TicketMaster: 414.276.4545.
 
June 18th, UIC Pavilion at the University of Illinois in Chicago IL.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale May 20th @ Box 
Office with no service charge on the first day on-sale & also at 
TicketMaster: 312.559.1212.
 
June 19th, the State Theatre in Kalamazoo MI.  Tickets will be 
general admission and they will be available May 13th at the Box 
Office with no service charge and at TicketMaster: 616.373.7000.
 
June 21st, Cincinnati Music Hall in Cincinnati OH.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will go on sale May 7th at the Music Hall Box 
Office and at TicketMaster: 513.749.4949.
 
June 22nd, Veterans Memorial Auditorium in Columbus OH.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will be available May 14th at the Box 
Office with no service charge on the first day of sale & at 
TicketMaster: 614.431.3600.
 
June 23rd, Phoenix Plaza in Pontiac MI.  Tickets will be general 
admission and they will be available May 13th at TicketMaster: 
810.645.6666.
 
June 24th, Murat Theatre in Indianapolis IN.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will be available May 14th at thetix @ Murat 
Box Office & TicketMaster: 317.239.5151.
 
June 25th, Nautica Stage in Cleveland OH.  Tickets are general 
admission and they are available now at the Nautica Box Office on 
the nights of Nautica shows only & at TicketMaster: 216.241.5555.
 
June 26th, Municipal Auditorium in Charleston W VA.  Seating will 
be reserved and tickets will be available May 14th at the Auditorium 
Box Office with no service charge  & at TicketMaster: 304.342.5757.
 
June 29th, Walnut Creek Amphitheatre in Raleigh NC.  There will be 
reserved seating and general admission on the lawn, and tickets will 
be available May 13th at the Box Office with no service charge  & at 
TicketMaster: 919.834.4000.
 
June 30th, Classic Amphitheatre in Richmond VA.  There will be both 
reserved seats and general admission tickets, and they will go on sale 
May 13th at the Fairgrounds Box Office & at TicketMaster: 
804.262.8100.
 
July 1st, Mann Music Center in Philadelphia PA.  There will be both 
reserved seats and general admission tickets, and they will be 
available May 14th at the Mann Music Center Box Office with no 
service charge & at TicketMaster: 215.336.2000.
 
July 2nd, Garden State Arts Center  in Holmdel NJ.  There will be both 
reserved seats and general admission on the lawn, and tickets will go 
on sale May 21st at the Arts Center Box Office with no service charge 
& at TicketMaster: 201.507.8900.
 
July 3rd,  The Ballpark in Old Orchard Beach ME.  Tickets will be  
general admission and they will go on sale May 14th at the Ballpark 
Box Office & at TicketMaster: 207.775.3331.
 
July 6th, Theatre St-Denis in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.  Seating will 
be reserved and tickets will go on sale June 2nd at the Theatre St-
Denis Box Office and at TicketMaster: 514.790.1111. 
 
July 8th & 9th, Great Woods in Mansfield MA.  Seats will be reserved 
in the pavilion and general admission on the lawn and tickets will be 
available on May 14th at TicketMaster: 617.931.2000 and after May 
23rd at the Great Woods Box Office with no service charge. 
 
July 10th, Saratoga Performing Arts Center in Saratoga Springs NY. 
There will be reserved seats and g.a. on the lawn and tickets will be 
available May 7th at the SPAC Box Office and at TicketMaster: 
518.476.1000.
 
July 13th, Big Birch Concert Pavilion in Patterson NY.  There will be 
reserved seats and g.a. on the lawn and tickets will go on sale May 
21st at the  Big Birch Box Office, Strawberries, and Protix: 
800.955.5566.
 
July 14th, Finger Lakes Performing Arts Center in Canandaigua NY.  
There will be reserved seats and g.a. on the lawn and tickets will go 
on sale May 13th at the FLPAC Box Office with no service charge and 
at TicketMaster: 716.232.1900.
 
July 15th, Jones Beach Amphiteatre in Wantagh, Long Island NY.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets will be available starting May 
7th at the Jones Beach Box Office with no service charge and at 
TicketMaster: 516.888.9000.
 
July 16th, Sugarbush Summer Stage at Sugarbush North in Fayston 
VT.  Tickets will be general admission and will go on sale May 7th at 
Sugarbush Inn, Sugarbush Chamber of Commerce, Flynn Theatre Box 
Office, Strawberries and other local outlets; charge-by-phone: 
800.53-SUGAR.
 
At most of the shows with reserved seating, a tapers ticket will be 
required to bring recording equipment into the show.   Stay in touch 
with the hotline for tapers' ticket information which will be available 
soon.
 
If you would like to be on the mailing list for the Phish newsletter, 
send your address on a postcard to Phish Mailing List, P. O. Box 219, 
Lexington, Massachusetts, 02173.  If you're correcting your address 
with us, let us know both the old one and the new one so we can 
keep our records accurate.  
 
The Phish Hotline number is 617.862.7820.
 
 
Shelly

    
    
    -Is the Old Orchard show (7/3) sold out yet? 
    
    
    -What about GW (7/9 Sat)???
    
    
    

>          <<< Note 237.431 by SALEM::MARTIN_S "Perpetual Smile..." >>>
>                                -< Sold out?? >-

no clue.  why don't you call the venues or ticketbastards?

as for the old orchard show, i might be interested in going if there are still
tickets left.  anyone know where the venue is or what it's like?

- rich

    
    RE -1
    
    the Old Orchard Beach venue is an old baseball stadium, pretty small,
   mostly just field, the stands are really small, there might just be
   bleachers for seats.
    
    
     cool place for a show, but the security drives around the lots
    and hassles people outside for drinking....kinda like Great Woods.
    
    Sean

so, is anybody here heading to the old orchard beach show on sunday?

i've been thinking about it...

(as of a few days ago there were still tix left)

- rich

    why yes, yes I am. Along with 2 of my kids and Dave B. as well, which
    rilly makes it 4 kids in all :^)
    
    Come on up!!! We'll be heading up early afternoon to make a full day
    of it.
    
    peace-on,Wilson

	anyone going to the sugarbush show next weekend?

	deb and i will be there.

	Me.  My first Phish show.  Never heard a disc.  Have
	no idea what to expect.  Should be great.

    
    
    
    
     Well, Tom. Be prepared. They really suck.
    
    :-)
    
    
    Steve-O (I'm there with wife_6_months_pregnant) Section 8 
    
    -> Andyburns will be there
    -> DaveB will be there      (last row of section 1)
    
    ->oH, yeah. And a whole bunch of crazy people will be there!

    Hi Tom....that's the way I saw my first phish show. I had not heard so
    much as a note before going to the Summerville Theatre show....then
    again, that's also pretty much the way it went before seeing the Dead
    for the first time...Ohhh...I says to myself, so that's how it's
    supposed to be done :^)
    
    Enjoy! Andy

    I'll be there!  I'm going with Rich Fromm and some of his friends.  I
    think were in row E in one of the center section up front.  Rich
    probably would say something, but since he's not at work much this
    week, I'll fill in for him.  If you know what Rich looks like, find him
    and introduce yourself to me.  
     
    btw - it's my first phish show too!
     
    -scott
    

	Hey, crazy people!  Sounds like fun.

	I'd tell y'all where I'm sitting, but nobody knows that yet...
	I'm expecting to pick up some at the box office (me and my
	2 friends).  I hope we won't be disappointed.  Don't pass
	the word around.  I want to make sure there are some tix left.  ;-)

	I hate to break it to you guys, but I've never seen the
	Dead either.  A real virgin.  Oh god what am I in for.  
	It could be the beginning of a long strange trip...  :-)

    Hey Tom...I hear ya and you're not the only one...it's gonna be a grate 
    week.  My first phish show and highgate will be my first dead show...we 
    can compare notes afterwards...
    
    /scott
    

	Sounds like fun, /scott, but I'm not currently slated for the
	Highgate gig.  I'll probably kick myself someday.

	Time to go Phish!

...well, this is definitesly the 'you snoose, you lose' tour -- I stayed home
last night and they played Gamehendge for set I.  Set II sounded really good
too.

I'll be there tonight and tomorrow (at SPAC).

Phishon!

- jeff

Whew!  I had fun.  *Everybody* had fun.  This is some crowd.
When the first song started everyone was on their feet, I'd
say 75% of them dancing, and the action didn't stop till the
show ended.

I'll say this for them, they play exciting music.  The spirit
is infectious and the band was "on".  These guys are nothing
if not eclectic.  Rock, blues, jazz, fusion, funk, country, folk,
heavy metal, Benedictine monk... did I leave anything out?  
And I'm very impressed by the musicianship.  The jams are
very structured and yet they flow really well.  They hit
the groove.

The first set was Gamehendge, an unreleased song-cycle where Trey
tells a story all along the way, bridging the songs.  They started
around 7:30 and played till 8:55.  Then the break.  At 9:20 they
came out again and played until around 11:00.  Here's some songs I'm
pretty sure they played (no particular order) in the second half:

    reba
    sample in a bottle (aka whiz quiz)
    the divided sky
    golgi apparatus
    frankenstein (by the Edgar Winter Group)
    you enjoy myself (?)
    
There's a sanctioned taping section, apparently.  If anyone
gets their hands on a good tape of this show, I'd love to
hear it.

I damn near went back for the second night.  Only a schedule
conflict prevented it.  Phish has won a fan here.  I'm now
listening to Junta (a 2-disc album) and Lawn Boy.  Great
stuff!

    
    Wow. 
    Friday night was nice, but I'm one of those who's there for music, not
    mumbling LCD stories. :-} The music smoked... And Divided Sky made up
    for the bologna in the first set (I'm sure Rich agrees...Doe! :-)
    Second set was jamming!
    
    Saturday, on our way to a wedding in Providence, we decided that they
    were going to play Fluffhead that night, so...we blew off the wedding
    to get tickets, went to the reception, and headed to the show in
    wedding attire! (we had someone meet us there with a change of
    clothes).
    
    VERY GLAD WE WENT!  Wow!  Run Like an Antelope, Maze, Split Open and
    Melt, and............FLUFFHEAD!  (oh yeah, Tweezer!) were the
    highest of my highlights! 
    
    Too many repeats from the previous Sunday, though. I've seen "Julius"
    3 times in 4 shows....
    
    What a weekend!!!!  :-)
    
    Steve-O

    Wow.  
     
    I'm standing here beside myself.
     
    Fri. night was definitely the best concert I have ever been to.  Sat.
    night comes in second.  Who knows though, maybe after Wed.night that
    will change.
     
    I loved hearing Gamehendge of fri. night.  The second set was totally
    intense.  The set list for fri. was:
     
    Set I
    
    Llama->
    N20->
    Lizards->
    Tela->
    Wilson->
    AC/DC Bag->
    Col. Forbin's Ascent->
    Famous Mockingbird->
    The Sloth->
    McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters->
    Divided Sky
    
    Set II
    
    Rift
    Sample in a Jar
    Reba->
    Jerusalem, City of Gold (in Hebrew)
    It's Ice
    Stash
    You Enjoy Myself->
    Frankenstein->
    Julius->
    Golgi Apparatus
     
    E: Nellie Kane
       Cavern
     
    i don't have the set list for Sat. night yet. Quite an excellent
    weekend.
     
    /scott
     

from phish-info:

--------------

Great Woods Amphitheatre, Mansfield MA

7/8/94

I:   Llama > N2O > Lizards > Tela > Wilson > AC/DC Bag > Col. Forbin's 
     Ascent > Famous Mockingbird > The Sloth > McGrupp and the Watchful 
     Hosemasters > Divided Sky  (Gamehendge saga, narration between songs from
     Lizards to Divided Sky)

II:  Rift, Sample in a Jar, Reba > Yarushalim Shel Zahav, It's Ice, Stash,
     You Enjoy Myself > Frankenstein > You Enjoy Myself, Julius, Golgi
     Apparatus

E:   Nellie Cane, Cavern

Thanks to catphish for the post!

--------------

Great Woods Amphitheatre, Mansfield MA

7/9/94

I:   Runaway Jim, Foam, Gumbo > Maze > Guelah Papyrus, Scent of a Mule, 
     Down With Disease > The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Run Like an 
     Antelope

II:  Also Sprach Zarathustra > Split Open and Melt > N2O > Split Open
     and Melt > Fluffhead > Poor Heart > Tweezer > Lifeboy > Sparkle > 
     Big Ball Jam > Harry Hood, Suzie Greenberg

E:   Sleeping Monkey > Tweezer Reprise

Thanks to Dan & Audrey Marsh & Catphish for the setlist &
clarifications.

--------------

Friday night was amazing.  Saturday night was pretty good too.  Great to hear
a live Gamehendge (but I think once is enough for me).

Finally, another Gumbo (hadn't seen it since 1991).  And I really enjoyed
Frankenstein.

Blew off SPAC (last nite's show) because I wasn't up for the 3� hour post-show
drive.  Wonder if I'll fall victim to the "you snooze, you loose" syndromes
of this tour...

- Rich

	What's SPAC?

    its an outdoor venue in upstate NY....

    Saratoga Performing Arts Center...
    
    				da ve

    so would GreatwoodS would be 
    
    GCFTPA
    
    hummm how would you say that ?
    
    Chris

>     GCFTPA
>     
>     hummm how would you say that ?

I pronouce it like this...



Pain-in-the-ass-security-and-awful-parking-lot-layout

:-)

- jeff

    I was at the Friday 8 July show.  I wanted to like it, rilly I did. 
    But I forgot my earplugs and it was excruciatingly loud, so I didn't
    enjoy it at all.
    
    We drove through a killer thunderstorm on the way down which had me
    pretty tense to begin with.  Then, as usual, Greatwoods itself always
    makes me tense and nervous.  Plus, the whole experience of seeing Phish
    in that big of a crowd was really unnerving.  I knew I should've gone
    to Sugarbush instead.
    
    Gamehenge isn't exactly Tommy, is it?  :-)  Trey should either work up
    some better narration, or just let the music do the talking, which it
    does quite well.  I'm trying to picture thesis defense day at Goddard
    College -- Gamehenge, followed by an interpretive dance of the Iran
    hostage crisis, all in the best basket weaving tradition.  :-)
    
    Jamie

    sounds like you are kinda nervous, Jamie.....%^)
    
    rfb

In partial agreement with Jamie...

I hate Gratewoods too.  I won't be too dissappointed if I never see another
show there.  The place is a 25,000 seat buzzkill if you ask me.

SPAC on the other hand, was a KILLER place to see a show.  I hope Phish plays
there again next tour.


- jeff_didn't_go_to_Friday_but_went_for_Sat._&_Sun._and_enjoyed_both_shows

    Well, maybe I should go to SPAC.  I had no problems with Great
    Woods; in fact, fewer than usual.  The crowd was well behaved
    and the security folks didn't hassle anyone that I could see.
    I was in and out like a flash.  (Well, I did inadvertently
    skip the last song in my eagerness to beat the crowd.. and
    the thunderstorms on the way down were wicked indeed!).

    I've been reading rec.music.phish, and some folks there were
    complaining in a major way about the SPAC crowd's rudeness.
    I'd say we did ok.

    Incidentally, I feel even more fortunate to have been at Friday's 
    show (going was an afterthought) as I read many people saying it
    was their best Phish experience *ever*!  Not only that, but
    Gamehendge has only been played once before in its entirety,
    has never been released, and the band may have been recording
    these shows for a new live release.

    Hope so, anyway.

re: Note 237.458 by AWATS::WESTERVELT 
> Gamehendge has only been played once before in its entirety, has never been
> released, and the band may have been recording these shows for a new live
> release.

...that's not exactly true.  They've played it twice this tour and once on
3-22-92, Crest Theater and 3-12-88 at Nectars (the first live one).  They've
never played all the songs that go with the Gamehendge saga in one sitting.
The other part of the problem with this is that many of the songs have changed
and instrumentals (music to travelling narrative and betrayal jam) have been
incorporated into other songs, so Gamehendge as it was originally created may
never be heard live.  There has been talk of producing a CD-I (or similar
CD-ROM thingy) of Gamehendge to have it be an interactive game/story, but
nothing has become of it, yet.

FWIW, here's a few excerpts from setlists that I know of...

3-18-88 Nectar's, Burlington VT
McGrupp And The Watchful Hosemasters, Lizards, Tela, Wilson, AC/DC Bag,
Colonel Forbin's Ascent -> Famous Mockingbird, Sloth, Possum

10/13/91  North Shore Surf Club, Olympia, WA
Wilson*, Reba, The Landlady, Colonel Forbin's Ascent* -> Famous Mockingbird*,
Tela*, AC/DC Bag*, The Sloth*, McGrupp And The Watchful Hosemasters*

10/27/91  Elk Ballroom, Telluride, CO
Tela, Colonal Forbin's Ascent, Lizards, McGrupp And The Watchful Hosemasters,
Possum, some Gamehendge rap,

3-22-92 Crest Theater, Sacramento CA
The Lizards, Tela, Wilson, AC/DC Bag, Colonel
Forbins Ascent, Fly Famous Mockingbird, The Sloth, McGrupp and the Watchful
Hosemasters, 

6/26/94 Municipal Auditorium, Charleston WV
Llama, Lizards, Tela, Wilson, AC/DC Bag, Col. Forbin's Ascent > Famous
Mockingbird, The Sloth, McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters, Divided Sky

7/8/94  Great Woods Amphitheatre, Mansfield MA
Llama > N2O > Lizards > Tela > Wilson > AC/DC Bag > Col. Forbin's Ascent >
Famous Mockingbird > The Sloth > McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters >
Divided Sky

Trey's original 'thesis' did not contain some of the songs that were added
later (Divided Sky, Llama, McGrupp, etc.).

"The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday"  Trey's Senior Thesis, The Gamehendge Saga
A:   Wilson Prelude -> Intro Narrative -> Lizards, Tela ->
     Traveling Narrative -> Wilson -> Palmer Narrative -> AC/DC Bag ->
     Betrayal Jam -> Narrative
B:   Colonel Forbin's Ascent -> Famous Mockingbird ->
     Erin Wolfe's Narrative -> The Sloth -> Forbin In The Dungeon, Possum

They also have done colforbin->narrative->mockingbird too many times to list
here -- check out the Helping Friendly Book for the details.

I _was_ told that they were recording the shows for possible live release,
however...

:-)

- jeff

	Yeah, that rumour about recording the shows is showing
	up a lot.  (If you believe the net).  

	I figured what I wrote about the history of Gamehendge was
	inaccurate... I got it from the newspaper.  

	p.s. I wore earplugs and needed 'em.

> p.s. I wore earplugs and needed 'em.

I did too and my ears were ringin' for 2 days anyway!!!

They really cranked up the Dude of Life at SPAC, and everyone I was with was
plugging their ears.  It hurt not to -- not to mention that he sux :-)  We
were in the 6th row, about 6 seats right of center for the 2nd set.

From about 5 rows back of the taper's section, the 1st set sounded pretty
nice.  Loud and clear, but not too loud as to make yer ears ring or too loud
that you couldn't yell over it :-)


- jeff

>	Yeah, that rumour about recording the shows is showing
>	up a lot.  (If you believe the net).  

the rumor i heard was that they played it again to record it for a live
release - guess they weren't satisfied with the first playing this tour

>	p.s. I wore earplugs and needed 'em.

i wore an earplug in my left ear only, as it was the (audience) left speaker
stack that i was much closer to.

- rich

	Well, I can't wait for a fall tour!  

    
    
    
     A friend of mine has an extra for tomorrow's Sugarbush show.
    
     $20. (GA)
    
    
     If interested, send E-mail to me (SALEM::MARTIN_S)
    
    
    
     Steve-O
      
    

well, i saw phish for the first time at sugarbush this past weekend with deb.
deb didn't like 'em.  i liked it... definitely some high energy stuff.  those
diehard phish heads who don't like the comparision to the dead, can press
next unseen now 'cuz i'm gonna compare the scene to the dead:



- younger crowd.  much! i felt pretty old there.  lots of 15-20 year olds.
  not many people in their late 20s, hardly anyone in their 30s and 40s.
  the dead scene tends to be a bit more diverse in age, with a much higher
  avg age.

- now i know who makes cigarette makers successful.  i've never seen so
  much cigarette smoking at a show before.  all of those young and lost kids
  smokin' to be cool.  one girl would light one up and her 10 friends would
  join in the fun/coolness.  tons of smoking.  i've never been to an OUTDOOR
  show on a mountain side (read: breezy) and came home smelling like i was
  in a smokey bar.  sick!!  dead crowds don't smoke nearly as much, imo, and
  dead crowds tend to smoke more of the other 'stuff', which isn't nearly
  as gross smelling as cigs, imo.

- people are much more disrespectful.  plenty of times i got reamed by some
  passerby while at the show.  no apologies... they just kept going knocking
  over whatever/whoever was in their way...  this rarely happens at a dead
  show.   rarely have i experienced blatant, no apology pushing at dead
  showz.

- before the show.  the scene is dead-like: vendors, drinking, listening 
  to tunez, hacky sack, etc.  matter of fact, nearly 50% of the people had
  dead t-shirts on!  however, the scene isn't quite as happening as the dead
  scene... no where near as vibrant and exciting.  none the less, it was fun,
  espec. on a nice sunny day in the mtns.

- much, much, much easier to get drugs at phish showz, at least the sugarbush
  show.  i was asked if i wanted doses at least 3 times, 'shrooms about 2
  times, ganga a few times, etc.  this is a big departure from the 1994 dead 
  scene, imo....  i think the reason is enforcement/attraction... phish doesn't
  have the drug reputation the dead has and therefore enforcement isn't 
  something that is very prevalent at phish shows... that's my theory.  also
  those kids are young and perhaps not old enough to know better (ie: be more
  discrete).

- the music is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different.  very high energy vs.
  the dead.  phish is great if you want a high energy, kickassblaster show.
  they really do put it all out - and, they get the light show going just as
  wild.  the dead is more of the mellow magical experience - music for your
  imagination and soul.  now, i got a question.  does trey the guit-box player
  typically prance around stage fliging his guitar around in circles by
  the neck???  i thought that to be a bit dangerous!!!


all in all, a good show... the scene wasn't as cool as the dead's, imo, so
that is a negative.  the music was very cool!!!!!!  i have 4 phish cds so
i was familiar with several tunes they played.  i'd go seem 'em again....

so phishheads, what are people saying about the sugarbush show???  hot
compared to typicaly phish shows?  mediorce?  lame???  just wanna know
how to set the expectations...

sugarbush is a very cool place to check out a show!

    
    JC-
    
    I agree with your observations of the scene at PhisH vs. Dead.
    Lotsa punks at Phish, lotsa wanna-be-hippies. I feel old at Phish
    shows, too. (I'm 25 :-)
    
    One thing strange: Trey swinging the axe...You mean like Steve Vai
    or something? Never heard *that* before! Trampolines? Yes. Swings? No.
    
    The music cannot be compared. It's like comparing a boat ride to a
    plane ride. Apples to Bananas. Toenails to eye-boogers....   :-P
    
    
    Wasn't at Sugarbush. Setlist?
    
    Steve-O
    

I went to 2 showz this tour, and enjoyed them both.  Ditto on the lots of
people smoking sigs :-P  and double-ditto on the volume!


re: setlist?

Second set LOOKS good, but I haven't heard any comments on the 'quality' of
the show vs. the others from this tour.

> From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 18-JUL-1994 02:00:48.07
> To:	[email protected]
> CC:	
> Subj:	Setlist - 7/16/94 Sugarbush North VT
> 
> 
> Sugarbush Summer Stage, Sugarbush North VT
> 
> 7/16/94
> 
> I:   Golgi Apparatus, Down With Disease, N2O, Stash, Lizards, Cavern, 
>      The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Maze > Sparkle, Sample in a Jar
> 
> II:  Run Like an Antelope > Catapult > Run Like An Antelope, Harpua > 
>      Also Sprach Zarathustra > Harpua, AC/DC Bag, Scent of a Mule, Harry
>      Hood, Contact, Chalk Dust Torture
> 
> E:   Suzie Greenberg
> 
> thanks again to various sources!
> 
> please, let me know if you have corrections to any of the setlists, after
> a few days, I'll post a tour-long compendium of updated ones.
> 
> email to either [email protected] or [email protected] works, thanks.
> 
> 
> -Mikey


FYI, phish-info is a setlist/tour-dates only mailing list available by sending
a message with 'subscribe' in the body by a line by itself to:

    [email protected]

- jeff

    well folks...i saw the phish shows at great woods, the proceeded to see
    that dead at highgate.  since this is the phish note, i figured it
    would be safe to post this here, but keep it quiet, and don't tell
    anyone i said this...
     
    highgate was a good show, but the dead, man, they're no phish!
     
    
    
    ha ha...just kidding...  ;)
    
    no flames, just a joke :):):)
     
    /scott
    

	Just got a Phish update.  Looks like they'll be doing
	4 New England shows between Christmas & (including)
	New Years Eve!

	Hotcha


	Just picked up Hoist and digging it..


	Tjw

    
    
    Tjw-
    
     Please divulge show dates phor PhisH phans' phancy, phriend.
    
    Steve-O_alliteration_gone_sour_boy
    

Hotline Message -- 8/17/94

        You've reached the Phish hotline.  This is a new message as of 
August 17th.  If you are calling for tapers' ticket mail order 
information only, you can reach the tapers' hotline at 617.862.2128; 
however, we will not have tapers' information for about another 
week, so there is currently no message at that number.  We will put 
one in place as soon as there is anything to announce.  

        Phish's fall tour will begin on October 7 and will continue 
through mid-December.  There will be a break at Christmas, and then 
there will be four shows in the NorthEast up to and including New 
Year's Eve.  After New Year's, Phish will probably not hit the road 
again until July or August of 1995.  We are still working on 
confirming most of the fall tour dates, but we've come to early 
decisions on a few so here they are:

October 7th, the first show of the tour, Phish will play at Stabler 
Arena on the Lehigh University campus in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.  
There will be general admission on the floor and reserved seating in 
the stands.  Tapers' tickets for this show will not be available by mail 
order; If you wish to tape at this show, you will need to buy a 
general admission floor ticket.   Tickets will be available starting 
August 26th at the Stabler Arena box office, other local outlets and 
TicketMaster.  There will be no service charge at the Stabler box 
office.  They will sell tickets in person only and they will open at 9 
am on August 26th.  TicketMaster sales will start at 10 am.  The 
TicketMaster number is 215.336.2000.

On October 20th, Phish will play at Mahaffey Theatre in St. 
Petersburg, Florida.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on 
sale August 27th at the Mahaffey Theatre box office and at 
TicketMaster: 813.871.2993.

On October 21st, Phish will play at Sunrise Musical Theatre in 
Sunrise, near Miami, Florida.  Seating will be reserved and tickets 
will go on sale August 26th at the Sunrise box office and at 
TicketMaster:  305.523.3309.

On October 22nd, Phish will play outdoors at the Edge Concert Field 
in Orlando, Florida.  This show will be general admission and tickets 
will go on sale August 27th at local outlets and at TicketMaster: 
407.839.3900.

If you would like to be on the mailing list for the Phish newsletter, 
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keep our records accurate.  

And a final bit of Phish news, on Saturday, August 13th Trey and Sue 
were married in Stowe, Vermont.  It was a beautiful wedding, they 
are currently on their honeymoon, and we wish them all the best.

 Thanks and check back soon for further tour information.


 The Phish hotline number is 617.862.7820.


Shelly

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re: .470

There is a "phish-info" mailing list just for this purpose.  You'll get
tour dates, on-sale dates, and other important stuff, as well as setlists.
The mailing list is moderated and posted to about 2-3 times/week MAX.

I'll try to remember to post the really important stuff (i.e. tour dates) but
in case I flake out or other folks beat me to it, you can always sign up for
the mailing list by sending a request to:

    [email protected]

with 'subscribe' or 'subscribe <[email protected]>' on a line by itself in the
body of the message.


- jeff_creator_of_the_original_phish-info_mailing_list

	The current issue of Guitar Player has an article about	
	Phish in it - I think it's an interview with Trey
	Anastasio.

	The current issue of Musician has an article abou t
	Phish in it too - called "Phish searches for the
	golden hose", I think.  Talks about "noodle dancers"   :-)
	(The Hose is when the music gets really transcendant;
	 The Golden Hose is an ultra version of the Hose)

	I also have now heard every Phish album.  I love 'em!
	Lots of fave songs, too many to list now.  I bought
	Hoist last and it's taking the longest to grow on me,
	but I really love all the others - especially Rift
	and Junta.

	I managed to round up a few live tapes, too.  Do any
	of you by any chance have any live Phish (not in your
	tank!)  ?  I'd particularly like to get my hands on
	last year's New Years Eve show at the Worcester Centrum,
	of which I have a copy but a very poor one.

Date:	23-AUG-1994 13:50:26.43
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson"
Subj:	Hotline Update 8/23/94
To:	[email protected]

Hotline Message -- 8/23/94

        You've reached the Phish hotline.  This is a new message as of 
August 23rd.  If you are calling for tapers' ticket mail order 
information only, you can reach the tapers' hotline at 617.862.2128; 
however, we will not have tapers' information for about another 
week, so there is currently no message at that number.  We will put 
one in place as soon as there is anything to announce.  

        Phish's fall tour will begin on October 7 and will continue 
through mid-December.  There will be a break at Christmas, and then 
there will be four shows in the Northeast up to and including New 
Year's Eve.  After New Year's, Phish will probably not hit the road 
again until July or August of 1995.  Here are the confirmed Fall tour 
dates through October:

October 7th, the first show of the tour, Phish will play at Stabler 
Arena on the Lehigh University campus in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.  
There will be general admission on the floor and reserved seating in 
the stands.  Tapers' tickets for this show will not be available by mail 
order; If you wish to tape at this show, you will need to buy a 
general admission floor ticket.   Tickets will be available starting 
August 26th at the Stabler Arena box office, other local outlets and 
TicketMaster.  There will be no service charge at the Stabler box 
office.  They will sell tickets in person only and they will open at 9 
am on August 26th.  TicketMaster sales will start at 10 am.  The 
TicketMaster number is 215.336.2000.

October 8th, the Patriot Center in Fairfax VA.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will be available on September 8th at the  930 
Club (with no service charge), Patriot Center box office and at 
TicketMaster: 202.432.7328.

October 9th, the A. J. Palumbo Center in Pittsburgh PA.  Seating will 
be reserved and tickets will be available starting September 9th at 
the Palumbo Center box office (no service charge, cash sales only), at 
Oasis Records, and at National Record Marts: 412.276.8300.

October 10th, the Palace Theatre in Louisville KY.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will be available on August 27th at the Palace 
Theatre Box Office (no service charge in person, $2/ticket charge by 
phone: 502.583.4335) and at TicketMaster: 502.361.3100.

October 12th, the Orpheum Theatre in Memphis TN.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will be available on September 17th at the 
Orpheum box office and at TicketMaster: 901.525.1515.

October 13th, the Grove Area outdoor on campus at the University of 
Mississippi in Oxford MS.  This show will be general admission and 
tickets will be available on September 9th at Central Ticket Office 
with no service charge; call 601.232.7411 to charge by phone.

October 14th, McAlister Auditorium on the Tulane University campus 
in New Orleans LA.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will be 
available on September 10th at on-campus outlets and at 
TicketMaster: 504.522.5555.

October 15th, Oak Mountain Amphitheatre in Pelham AL.  Dave 
Matthews Band will be opening this show.  Seats will be reserved 
and the lawn will be general admission; tickets will be available 
September 10th at the Amphitheatre box office (with no service 
charge for cash sales only) and through Ticketlink: 800.277.1700.

October 16th, Chattanooga Memorial Auditorium in Chattanooga TN.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets will be available on September 
10th at the Memorial Auditorium box office (no service charge in  
person, $1.50/ticket charge by phone): 615.757.5042.

October 18th, Vanderbilt University Memorial Gymnasium in 
Nashville TN.  Seating will be reserved on the floor and general 
admission in the balconies, and tickets will be available on 
September 14th at the Sarratt box office with no service charge and 
at TicketMaster: the number is 615.737.4849 in Nashville, 
800.333.4849 outside Nashville.

October 20th, Mahaffey Theatre in St. Petersburg, Florida.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale August 27th at the 
Mahaffey Theatre box office and at TicketMaster: 813.871.2993.

October 21st, Sunrise Musical Theatre in Sunrise, Florida.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale August 26th at the 
Sunrise box office and at TicketMaster:  305.523.3309.

October 22nd, Phish will play outdoors at the Edge Concert Field in 
Orlando, Florida.  This show will be general admission and tickets will 
go on sale August 27th at local outlets and at TicketMaster: 
407.839.3900.

October 25th, the Atlanta Civic Center Theatre in Atlanta GA.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale September 17th at 
Variety Playhouse with no service charge and at TicketMaster: 
404.249.6400.

October 26th, Varsity Gym at Appalachian State University in Boone 
NC.  This show will be general admission and tickets will be available 
September 16th at the Student Ticket Office with no service charge; 
call 704.262.3032 for mail order instructions, and at Grapevine 
Records and Record Exchange.

October 27th, University Hall at the University of Virginia in 
Charlottesville VA.  This show will be general admission and tickets 
will be available at on-campus outlets with no service charges and 
TicketMaster: 804.262.8100.

October 28th, Gaillard Auditorium in Charleston SC.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will be available September 17th at the 
Auditorium box office with no service charge on September 17th 
only, at other local outlets and through S.C.A.T. phone charge: 
803.577.4500.

October 29th, Spartanburg Memorial Auditorium in Spartanburg SC.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets will be available September 24th 
at the  Auditorium box office (to charge by phone call 803.582.8107), 
at the Asheville Civic Center, the Greenwood Civic Center and other 
local outlets.

October 31st, Halloween, Phish will play at the Glens Falls Civic 
Center in Glens Falls NY.  This will be a special late show, starting at 
10 pm and continuing well past midnight.  To be eligible for special 
rewards, please come dressed as your favorite Phish song or 
character.  Tickets will be general admission on the floor and 
reserved in the stands; if you plan to tape, you will need a general 
admission floor ticket.  Tickets will be available starting September 
24th at the Civic Center box office with no service charge in person, 
$3/order charge by phone; that number is 518.798.0202; and 
through TicketMaster: 518.476.1000.  The band is currently taking 
suggestions for an album, any album from Physical Graffiti to The 
Sound of Music, to play during the show that night; to voice your 
opinion, send your suggestion on a postcard to Phish Halloween 
Album, P. O. Box 130, Lexington, MA  02173. 

November 2nd, Bangor Auditorium in Bangor ME.  This show will be 
general admission and tickets will be available September 17th at 
the Auditorium box office with no service charge and at 
TicketMaster: 207.775.3331.

November 3rd, the Mullins Center on the University of Massachusetts 
campus in Amherst MA.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will go 
on sale September 17th at the Mullins Center box office with no 
service charge and at TicketMaster: 413.733.2500.

and November 4th, Phish will play at the Onondaga County War 
Memorial in Syracuse NY.  Seats will be reserved and tickets will go 
on sale on September 24th at the War Memorial box office with no 
service charge and at TicketMaster: 315.472.0700.

If you would like to be on the mailing list for the Phish newsletter, 
send your address on a postcard to Phish Mailing List, P. O. Box 219, 
Lexington, Massachusetts, 02173.  If you're correcting your address 
with us, let us know both the old one and the new one so we can 
keep our records accurate.  

If you came in partway through this message, stay on the line and it 
will repeat in a few seconds.  Thanks for calling, and check back soon 
for further tour information.

The Phish Hotline number is 617.862.7820


Shelly

Anyone know the ticket prices & ticketbas%^&d surcharges for the UMASS 
show?

thanks

jeff

	I dunno Jeff, but I'll be able to tell you Saturday morning
	after 10, I hope!

the Umass tickets are $18.50 plus a tba surcharge for the priv. of buying 
through ticketmustard

    Yes, and the ticket surcharge is 3.75!!! This is after I
    go to the outlet myself, not even over the phone (yeah, 
    they charge more for that I think!!)  Ack.

    How about some good ol' american competion in the ticket biz...
    like baseball, it may be about time

    
    .......if folks stop going to shows and sporting events that are way
    over priced maybe just  maybe bands, promoters, and even team owner,
    wouls back off the prices.......no that  will never happen because of
    all the kick back  from ticketshits.....
    
    hornet......who stopped going to shows because its to much of a hassel
    

	I'm sure a lot of people have stopped going to (some) shows
	for the same reason as you.  But there's still enough people
	who are willing to pay the price, so they get away with it.
	But if there was competition, somehow, then the price could
	go down, I think.  $3.75 per ticket is just way too much,
	I don't see it.

	Won't stop me from seeing Phish, though!

	Couldn't get thru for Clapton tix...

re: .480

> I'm sure a lot of people have stopped going to (some) shows for the same
> reason as you.  

While they have indeed gone the way of bigger venues, bigger sound, bigger
production, bigger prices ... I've stopped being the super phish phanatic for
a different reason: they don't play the same groove they used to.  Trey said
it himself:  

    Phish = Change

Too bad.  I still like the mix and groove that they played in 90/91 better
than anything since.  Call me a Junta-esque Phish Head.


Same kinda thing bummed me out when Shockra broke up -- the groove was gone.


- jeff_just_lookin_for_a_groove!

>Too bad.  I still like the mix and groove that they played in 90/91 better
>than anything since.  Call me a Junta-esque Phish Head.

i don't necessarily mind the changes that have happened musically.  some things
i don't particularly like, but there are some other things that are quite nice.
overall i think change is good, though.  who want's to be stagnant.

>While they have indeed gone the way of bigger venues, bigger sound, bigger
>production, bigger prices ...

this stuff i don't like, but i just live with it.  while it's great for phish
that they're getting all of this success and exposure, there's just a level
of intimacy and closeness between the band and the crowd in a 300 person club
that simply is not possible in a 15,000 person arena.

>Same kinda thing bummed me out when Shockra broke up -- the groove was gone.

go see felix playing with the Heavy Metal Horns.  they're not bad.  i'd like
to see what edwin is up to as well.

>- jeff_just_lookin_for_a_groove!

i'm getting a pretty good groove with God Street Wine as well.  i know, not
as much your cuppatea.

- rich

> ya ought to at least go to the halloween show...

Yeah, 'specially if they play JOE'S GARAGE!!!!!

:-)


- jeff

	Jeff - (.481)

	I like Junta best of all the albums, and I just discovered them.
	Hoist, though nice, doesn't have the same panache.  :-) 
	But my question is, are you saying the music has changed, or
	the nature of the performance has changed?  At great woods
	this summer they were hot hot hot... they musta been awesome
	in their club days (also less polished, perhaps).

	Can anyone tell me how far Glenns Falls, NY is from Boston?  

	Oh yeah - about Joe's Garage - I was playing Phish for a 
	friend who'd never heard them, and I thought his comment
	was quite perceptive: "sounds like Frank Zappa meets
	the Grateful Dead".  Spot on.


	Tom

>	Can anyone tell me how far Glenns Falls, NY is from Boston?  

it's about 20 miles north of Saratoga Springs (where SPAC is), along I-87, in
the Albany area.  i'd guess about 3 1/2 hours from the Boston Metrowest area?

although it wouldn't really matter to me how far it is.  if there's only one
show that i see this tour, it will be Halloween.  (i still haven't sent in
any album votes yet, though.)

- rich

p.s. blurb on the Halloween show from the latest Phish Update:

After a two year hiatus, Halloween is back on the tour docket.  This year's
show will be a three set affair beginning at 10 pm sharp.  For this occasion,
we need your help.  We need your seasoned sagacity and impeccable taste to
help pick out the ideal costume for us - that is, a musical costume.  Think of
any album from any genre (anything - from Slayer to Sun Ra to West Side Story)
that you'd like to hear Phish play and send your suggestion to:  Halloween
Costume  P.O. Box 130  Lexington, MA  02173.  We'll pick from the most
popular suggestions and play the album (or most of it) sometime Halloween
night.  We also encourage you to come dressed as your favorite Phish song or
character.  The inimitable Betty Frost will patrol the hall and hand out
special treats to those of you with the most creative attire.

> But my question is, are you saying the music has changed, or the nature of
> the performance has changed?  

yes.  :-)

> At great woods this summer they were hot hot hot... they musta been awesome
> in their club days (also less polished, perhaps).

I agree the Gratewoods (and SPAC) shows were good ones, but it's the overall
experience that's different...

They're not one note more polished now than 4 years ago -- they've always been
a VERY technical band.  The '90 Colorado shows are a good example (and these
were in small theaters too).  If you mean polished to be less random and zany,
then yeah, they don't do as much of the totally crazy-n-stupid-n-FUN stuff
that they used to.  The Campus Club show 3-13-92 was perhaps my greatest show.
Totally wacked and IN YER FACE!  30 minute long set closers in 2hr long sets
... Oh Why, oh why, oh why, oh why ha, ohwya, ohhwiiyyyaa hoowwaaayyyyaa,
hooowaaahryaa, howaraya, hawaryee.....       ....let's go to Hawaii!

Perhaps it's that the dynamic range of a club is much greater than in an arena
or a Gratewoods/stadium type place ... less crowd roar and random reverb.  The
bigger venues really seem to take away from the IMPACT that *live* Phish has
on my soul.  When Mike hit a note in a club, EVERYONE KNEW IT!  You didn't
have a choice -- dance, or die tryin'!  Doesn't seem the same in the bigger
venues for some reason.  It's kinda hard to explain.  

I think they were more in-tune with the crowd in the 200 person SRO clubs vs.
the 20,000 seat arenas.  I also like the atmosphere of club-music MUCH more
than arena-music ... less ticket hassles, less security hassles, NO SEATS!!!!,
they sell beer!  :-), etc...  Besides that, I liked to be able to sit on the
stage or walk up to them after a show and ask 'em stupid_fan_questions(tm)

If ya EVER gets a chance to see 'em in a club, DO IT!!!!  Best chances are
prolly random towns in FL or LA, TX, AZ, and other faraway states...  ...but
even now they're probably not doing clubs anymore 'cuz there's no money it it
-- either that or the soundboard won't fit! 

:-)

- jeff

>If ya EVER gets a chance to see 'em in a club, DO IT!!!!  Best chances are
>prolly random towns in FL or LA, TX, AZ, and other faraway states...

last 2 tours i believe featured club dates in canada.  wish i had gone to one
of them.

- rich

	Sounds like fun, man

>If ya EVER gets a chance to see 'em in a club, DO IT!!!!  Best chances are
>prolly random towns in FL or LA, TX, AZ, and other faraway states...

Hell, I saw them in clubs in Vt that didn't hold 200 people.

    timtim, people in New Eng tell me Vermont IS a far a way state!! %^)
    
    rfb

did anyone pick up any xtras for the UMass show?  the person who was supposed
to get me tickets kind of forgot.  i don't know whether or not they're sold
out, but if all that's left by now is lousy seats, then i'd probably rather
just not go.

- rich

i'm looking for a single also for zoomass.

rich, if ya find a pair, wanna cruise together mon?

       I need some help (no kiddin') with the words to "Mike's Song"...
    What is the chorus part that sounds like "don't wanna be no more
    nice guy"...??     thanks fer any help....
    
               :-) daveB

>       I need some help (no kiddin') with the words to "Mike's Song"...

included below is from the Lyrics File in the Phish Archives.  not too many
lyrics, but the 2/20/93 version goes on for 30 minutes!

- rich

-----------------------

MIKE'S GROOVE

These songs are usually played in sequence, although 1993 saw
considerable deviation - see 2.20.93 Roxy, Atlanta for an extreme
example!

MIKE'S SONG
-----------

Trapped in time and I don't know what to do
These friends of mine, I can see right through.
You don't gotta tell me and I don't gotta know
`Cuz I'm sittin' back here sharin' the groove.

Me no are no nice guy  (X 3)

I walk through the hallways inside my mind
I chase the backbeat from behind
Big dude in the doorway was blockin' my way
He reached to grab me and this is what he said:

Me no are no nice guy  (X 3)

I AM HYDROGEN (Instrumental)
-------------

WEEKAPAUG GROOVE
---------------

Trying to make a woman match your moves
And we're sharing in the Weekapaug Groove

     thanks, rich....
    
            :-)

From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson" 20-SEP-1994 21:05:39.51
To:	[email protected]
CC:	
Subj:	Hotline Update, 9/20/94

Hotline Message -- 9/20/94

        You've reached the Phish hotline.  This is a new message as of 
September 20th.  If you are calling for tapers' ticket mail order 
information only, you can reach the tapers' hotline at 617.862.2128.  

        Phish's fall tour will begin on October 7 and will continue 
through mid-December.  There will be a break at Christmas, and then 
there will be four shows in the Northeast up to and including New 
Year's Eve.  After New Year's, Phish will probably not hit the road 
again until July or August of 1995.  Here are the confirmed tour 
dates for the rest of 1994:

October 7th, Phish will play at Stabler Arena in Bethlehem, 
Pennsylvania.  This show is sold out.

October 8th, the Patriot Center in Fairfax VA.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets are on sale now at the 930 Club, Patriot Center 
box office and at TicketMaster.

October 9th, the A. J. Palumbo Center in Pittsburgh PA.  Seating will 
be reserved and tickets are on sale now at the Palumbo Center box 
office, at Oasis Records, and at National Record Marts: 412.276.8300.

October 10th, the Palace Theatre in Louisville KY.  This show is sold 
out.

October 12th, the Orpheum Theatre in Memphis TN.  Seating will be 
reserved and tickets are on sale now at TicketMaster.

October 13th, the Grove Area outdoor on campus at the University of 
Mississippi in Oxford MS.  This show will be general admission and 
tickets are on sale now at Central Ticket Office; call 601.232.7411 to 
charge by phone.

October 14th, McAlister Auditorium on the Tulane University campus 
in New Orleans LA.  Seating will be reserved and a few tickets are 
still available at TicketMaster.

October 15th, Oak Mountain Amphitheatre in Pelham AL.  Dave 
Matthews Band will be opening this show.  Seats will be reserved 
and the lawn will be general admission; tickets are on sale now at the 
Amphitheatre box office and through Ticketlink: 800.277.1700.

October 16th, Chattanooga Memorial Auditorium in Chattanooga TN.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets are on sale now at the Memorial 
Auditorium box office: 615.757.5042.

October 18th, Vanderbilt University Memorial Gymnasium in 
Nashville TN.  Seating will be reserved on the floor and general 
admission in the balconies, and tickets are available now at the 
Sarratt box office and at TicketMaster.

October 20th, Mahaffey Theatre in St. Petersburg, Florida.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets are on sale now at the Mahaffey Theatre 
box office and at TicketMaster.  

October 21st, Sunrise Musical Theatre in Sunrise, Florida.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets are on sale now at the Sunrise 
box office and at TicketMaster.  

October 22nd, Phish will play outdoors at the Edge Concert Field in 
Orlando, Florida.  This show will be general admission and tickets are 
on sale now at local outlets and at TicketMaster.

October 25th, the Atlanta Civic Center Theatre in Atlanta GA.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets are on sale now at Variety Playhouse 
and at TicketMaster.

October 26th, Varsity Gym at Appalachian State University in Boone 
NC.  This show will be general admission and tickets are on sale now 
at the Student Ticket Office; call 704.262.3032 for mail order 
instructions, and at Grapevine Records and Record Exchange.

October 27th, University Hall at the University of Virginia in 
Charlottesville VA.  This show will be general admission and tickets 
are on sale now at on-campus outlets and TicketMaster.

October 28th, Gaillard Auditorium in Charleston SC.  Seating will be 
reserved and a few tickets are still available at local outlets and 
through S.C.A.T. phone charge: 803.577.4500.

October 29th, Spartanburg Memorial Auditorium in Spartanburg SC.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets will be available September 24th 
at the  Auditorium box office (to charge by phone call 803.582.8107), 
at the Asheville Civic Center, the Greenwood Civic Center and other 
local outlets.

October 31st, Halloween, Phish will play at the Glens Falls Civic 
Center in Glens Falls NY.  This will be a special late show, starting at 
10 pm and continuing well past midnight.  To be eligible for special 
rewards, please come dressed as your favorite Phish song or 
character.  Seating will be general admission on the floor and 
reserved in the stands.  Ticket will be available starting September 
24th at the Civic Center box office with no service charge in person, 
$3/order charge by phone; that number is 518.798.0202; and 
through TicketMaster: 518.476.1000.  

November 2nd, Bangor Auditorium in Bangor ME.  This show will be 
general admission and tickets are on sale now at the Auditorium box 
office and at TicketMaster.

November 3rd, the Mullins Center on the University of Massachusetts 
campus in Amherst MA.  Seating will be reserved and a few tickets 
are still available at the Mullins Center box office and at 
TicketMaster.

November 4th, Phish will play at the Onondaga County War Memorial 
in Syracuse NY.  Seats will be reserved and tickets will go on sale on 
September 24th at the War Memorial box office with no service 
charge and at TicketMaster: 315.472.0700.

There will be a break in the tour from November 5th through 
November 11th, at which time the tour will resume.

November 12th, the Mac Center at Kent State University, Kent OH.  
Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale October 8th at the 
Mac Center box office (no service charge) and TicketMaster: 
216.672.2244.

November 13th, Erie Warner Theatre in Erie PA. Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will go on sale October 8th at Erie Civic Center / 
Warner Theatre box office (no service charge in person): 
814.452.4857 and TicketMaster: 814.456.7070.

November 14th, Devos Hall in Grand Rapids MI. Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will go on sale October 8th at  Devos Hall box 
office (no service charge) and TicketMaster: 616.456.3333.

November 16th, Hill Auditorium at U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor MI. 
Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale October 8th at the 
Michigan Union box office (no service charge first day on sale only) 
and TicketMaster: 810.645.6666.

November 17th, Hara Arena in Dayton OH.  Tickets will be general 
admission and they go on sale October 8th at  Hara Arena box office 
(no service charge) and TicketMaster: 513.228.2323.

November 18th, Wharton Center at  Michigan State U., East Lansing 
MI. Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale October 10th 
at Wharton Center box office (no service charge in person): 
800.942.7866 and TicketMaster: 517.484.5656.

November 19th, Indiana University Auditorium in Bloomington IN. 
Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale October 7th at I. 
U. Auditorium box office (no service charge), I. U. Memorial Union 
(no service charge) and TicketMaster: 812.333.9955.

November 20th, Dane County Exposition Center in Madison WI. 
Tickets will be g.a. on the floor and reserved in the stands and tickets 
will go on sale October 15th at Dane County Coliseum box office (no 
service charge) and TicketMaster: 608.255.4646.

November 22nd, Jesse Auditorium at the University of Missouri, 
Columbia MO.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale 
October 14th at Streetside Records and the MSA/GPC box office (no 
service charge in person): 314.882.4640.

November 23rd, the Fox Theatre in St. Louis MO. Seating will be 
reserved and tickets will go on sale October 15th at the Fox box office 
(no service charge) and Metrotix: 314.534.1111.

November 25th, UIC Pavilion in Chicago IL. Seating will be g.a. on the 
floor and reserved in the stands.  Tickets will go on sale October 8th 
at the UIC Pavilion box office (no service charge) and TicketMaster: 
312.559.1212.

November 26th, the Orpheum Theatre in Minneapolis MN.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale October 22nd at the State 
& Orpheum box office (no service charge) and TicketMaster: 
612.989.5151.

November 28th, Shroyer Gym at Montana State U., Bozeman MT.  
Tickets will be general admission and they will go on sale October 
22nd at Video Rodeo (no service charge), Cactus Records, Tobacco 
Row, Bohemian Music, and other area outlets; phone charge: 
406.587.0245.

November 30th, the Campus Recreation Center at Evergreen College 
in Olympia WA.  Tickets will be general admission and they will go 
on sale October 20th at Evergreen College bookstore (students only), 
Cellophane Square (reduced service charge) and TicketMaster: 
206.628.0888.

December 1st, Salem Armory in Salem OR.  Tickets will be general 
admission and they will go on sale October 22nd at Mid-Valley Arts 
Councils (no service charge first day on sale only) and at Fastixx: 
800.992.8499.

December 2nd, the Rec Hall at UC Davis in Davis CA. Tickets will be 
general admission and they will go on sale October 29th at the 
Freeborn Hall box office (no service charge) and BASS: 510.762.2277.

December 3rd, the Event Center in San Jose CA with Dave Matthews 
Band.  Tickets will be general admission and they will go on sale 
October 30th at the Event Center box office (no service charge) and 
BASS.

December 4th, Acker Gym at Chico State U., Chico CA.  Tickets will be 
general admission and they will go on sale October 29th at the Chico 
State box office (no service charge) and BASS.

December 6th, the Event Center at UC Santa Barbara in Santa Barbara 
CA.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale October 20th 
at the Associated Students ticket office: 805.893.2064.

December 7th and 8th, Spreckels Theatre in San Diego CA.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale October 29th at the 
Spreckels Theatre box office (first day of sale only, no service charge) 
and TicketMaster: 619.220.8497.

December 9th, Mesa Amphitheatre in Mesa AZ.  Tickets will be 
general admission and they will go on sale October 29th at the Mesa 
Community Center box office (no service charge) and Dillard's: 
602.678.2222.

December 10th, the Civic Auditorium in Santa Monica, CA with Dave 
Matthews Band.  Tickets will be general admission and they will go 
on sale October 23rd at the  Civic Auditorium box office (no service 
charge) and TicketMaster: 213.480.3232.

On December 28th, Phish will play at the Philadelphia Civic Center in 
Philadelphia PA.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale 
November 5th at the Civic Center box office (no service charge) and 
TicketMaster: 215.336.2000.

December 29th, Providence Civic Center in Providence RI.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale November 5th at the Civic 
Center box office (no service charge) and TicketMaster: 
401.331.2211.

December 30th, Madison Square Garden in New York City.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale November 5th at the 
Madison Square Garden box office (no service charge) and 
TicketMaster: 212.888.9000.

and December 31st, New Year's Eve, Phish will play at the Boston 
Garden in Boston MA.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on 
sale November 5th at the Boston Garden box office (no service 
charge) and TicketMaster: 617.931.2000.

If you would like to be on the mailing list for the Phish newsletter, 
send your address on a postcard to Phish Mailing List, P. O. Box 219, 
Lexington, Massachusetts, 02173.  If you're correcting your address 
with us, let us know both the old one and the new one so we can 
keep our records accurate.  If you are interested in taping at Phish 
concerts, you should call the tapers' hotline at 617.862.2128 for 
tapers' ticket information.

If you came in partway through this message, stay on the line and it 
will repeat in a few seconds.  Thanks for calling, and check back soon 
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    Greetings!

    I'm looking for one (or more) GA tickets to the Halloween Show in Glenns
    Falls.

    If anyone has extras, or knows where to get 'em, please let me know.  I'm
    offerin' tapes of the show to sweeten the deal :-)

    Thanks muchly!

    - jeff_needs_a_GA_ticket_to_tape

remembered this (finally) and saw Rich's(?) digressions reply about 
posting from the Web.

Rumor, fwiw that I heard 2 different nights @ the Garden shows had
the Beastie Boys opening for Phish @ UMass. I can live w/o the Beasties
myself.

re: WWW - yep, a bit slow and awkward for notes at this point. A next
unread would be nice....

jeff
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

Just got this today...

- jeff


---------------------------
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson" 24-OCT-1994 19:54:30.35
To:	[email protected]
CC:	
Subj:	Year-End shows Tapers' Ticket information

Tapers' Hotline Message -- 10/24/94

You've reached the Phish tapers hotline.  This is a new message as of 
October 24th.  

Tapers' tickets will be available by mail order for all four Phish 
shows at the end of December, on the 28th, 29th, 30th and 31st.  
Please note that only a limited number of seats for each venue are 
held for the tapers' mail order.  These seats will be directly behind 
the soundboard and the view from them will be somewhat 
obstructed.  

So that there will be enough taping seats for the people who need 
them, please do not plan on ordering these tickets unless you intend 
to tape.  Phish permits audio recording only; video taping is never 
allowed.  All Phish audio taping is for non-commercial home use 
only.  At shows where tapers' tickets have been made available 
by mail-order, a taper's ticket will be required in order to bring 
recording equipment into the show.  

Following are the mail-order tapers' ticket prices for Phish's New 
Year's shows:

December 28th, Philadelphia Civic Center, Philadelphia, Pa; $22.00.
December 29th, Providence Civic Center, Providence, RI.; $22.00.
December 30th, Madison Square Garden, New York City; $25.00; and
December 31st, Boston Garden, Boston, Ma.; $26.00 per ticket.

Here are the mail-order instructions for Phish year-end shows 
tapers' tickets.  Orders will be filled on a first-come first-serve basis 
by postmark.  All orders must be postmarked between October 26th 
and October 29th; orders postmarked before October 26th or after 
October 29th will not be filled.  

You may order a maximum of two tickets per show.  You may order 
as many shows as you like in one envelope; however, you must 
enclose a separate money order for each show.  Each person may 
send only one order; duplicate orders will not be filled.  Each 
person must fill out their own order.  Send your order in a #10 
(legal) size envelope.  Put your return address on the outside of the 
envelope, and also write on it which shows you are ordering tickets 
for, and how many tickets for each show.  In your order please 
include a 3x5 card with your name, address and telephone number 
in the upper left hand corner.  Write on the card which shows you 
are ordering tickets for, and how many tickets per show.  Also 
enclose a self-addressed, stamped #10 legal size envelope with 29 
cents postage for up to six tickets, or 52 cents for seven or eight 
tickets.  The ticket prices listed in this message already include a 
$2.50 per ticket handling charge.  Payment must be in the form of a 
postal money order or an American Express money order only; no 
checks.  The money order should be made payable to Phish.  If you 
wish to have your tickets returned to you by registered mail, 
add $6 to your payment for this service.  We strongly advise that 
you have New Year's Eve tickets returned to you by registered mail; 
we cannot help you if your tickets do not reach you if you do not use 
registered mail.  Keep your receipt; if we cannot fill your order, we 
will return your money order to you.  Do not include the carbon 
paper with your money order because it can damage the entire 
contents of your envelope.  Send your orders to: 
Phish Tapers' Tickets, P. O. Box 130, Lexington, MA   02173.  

The mail order for the second leg of the fall tour is over.  If you do 
not receive your tickets by November 8th for November and early 
December shows only, you can call Shelly at 617.862.8850 to check 
on the status of your order.  Please do not call regarding New Year's 
orders until this message has been updated.  Before the year-end 
shows go on sale on November 5th, this message will be updated 
with information regarding what percentage of the tapers' ticket 
orders we will be able to fill; however, we will not be able to provide 
information concerning individual orders for several weeks.

At the Phish Fall Tour shows for which special tapers' tickets were 
not available by mail order, including all general admission shows, 
admission to the tapers' section will be first-come, first-serve at the 
door, except for the following:

At  UIC Pavilion on November 25th, though there are reserved seat 
sections, the taping section will be in the general admission part of 
the venue and a general admission ticket will be required in order to 
tape at this shows.  There was no tapers' ticket mail order for this 
shows.

At the general admission shows, the size of the tapers section will be 
limited, and when it has become full no more recording equipment 
will be allowed into the venue.  Therefore you should arrive early if 
you plan to tape at these shows.

Thank you for calling; updated information will be added to this 
message when it becomes available.  For general tour information, 
call the Phish Hotline at 617.862.7820.


The Phish Tapers' Hotline number is 617.862.2128.


Shelly

I just got a call from ex-DEChead Bart Fiske, who attended the Halloween show
at Glens Falls, NY.

He said the show was unbelievable.  For the second (of 3) set, they played the
entire Beatles White Album!  And for Revolution #9, Fishman dropped his drawers
and paraded around the stage naked!

He says his mind is fried, and he wants tapes. :-)

adam

>And for Revolution #9, Fishman dropped his drawers and paraded around the
>stage naked!

Geez...and I thought he usually wore a dress!

Maybe I ought to reconsider trying to get tix for NYE for me and the kids?

	dave

re: halloween

definitely an interesting show.

during Harpua in set 1, part of the story had an old man putting on some album
to play, and they went into what i'm told was some Black Sabbath tune, and i
was kind of worried that that might be the album they chose to play.

second set starts up, and they start with the intro to Dark Side of the Moon.
but they were just teasing.  then they went into the White Album.  all of it.

3 full (~90 min) sets.  total time from start to finish of show was >5 hrs.
didn't end until about 3:20 AM.  i was pretty beat by the end.

a bit of cluelessness on the part of the people who ran the show, but all in
all it was a pretty laid back scene.  after a slight initial effort to keep
only people with floor tickets on the floor, the venue became defacto general
admission.

- rich

p.s. Fishman tossing off his dress and parading around the stage naked was
something i could have done without.

    what is wrong with black sabbath?
    pretty appropriate for halloween....
    "In the fields the bodies burning as the war machine keeps turning."
    

>    what is wrong with black sabbath?

just not my cuppatea

i think my vote would've been (i never did get around to sending it in) Atom
Heart Mother, by Pink Floyd

the Beatles was a nice choice, although it did drag on a bit.  by the end of
the set i was getting kind of eager to hear some Phish.

- rich

re:   <<< Note 237.504 by ROCK::FROMM "This space intentionally left blank." >>>

>i think my vote would've been (i never did get around to sending it in) Atom
>Heart Mother, by Pink Floyd

You mean Phish was soliciting inputs from fans as to which album they'd like to
cover?

>You mean Phish was soliciting inputs from fans as to which album they'd like to
>cover?

see 237.485

    I'm not much of a Phish-head, but being the complete Beatles maniac
    that I am, that's one Phish set I'd like to hear...if copies of that
    show circulate, please let me know, I'd appreciate it
    
    Wes

    This is the trouble with having a job, you can't go to all night
    Phish shows very easily.

    This one knocks me out, don't remind me I wasn't there!  :-)
    At any rate, there's a review in today's Glob.  

    Tom

I taped the Halloween show.  Audio Technica 4053 hyper-cardioids about 10' off
the floor from the middle of the taper's section into an SV-255 DAT deck.  The
mic pattern shows on tape (slightly canned), but they also cut out a LOT of
the boominess of the room (hockey arena) and are a pretty nice sonic picture
of what was there, IManalDATtaperO :-)  Paul has really done a nice job with
the sound system ...  adding delay stacks over the sound board and in the
rear-corners really cleaned up the sound well compared to ... say NYE 1993 at
Matthew's Arena.

I'm already making 3 or 4 sets, so if there's sufficient interest I'll run a
'bush'.  Email to subpac::maggard and please include a quick blurb about your
dubbing equipment if you are willing make tapes for others.  I haven't figured
out the flips yet, but two sets might need 100's due to Phish-extend-O-jams(tm).

- jeff


PS -- setlist from [email protected]  (signups to phish-info-request@...)

Glens Falls Civic Center, Glens Falls NY

Halloween, 10/31/94

I:   Frankenstein, Sparkle, Simple, Divided Sky, Harpua*, Julius,
     The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Reba, Golgi Apparatus

II:  The White Album**

III: David Bowie, Bouncing Around the Room, Slave to the Traffic 
     Light, Rift, Sleeping Monkey, Poor Heart, Run Like An Antelope

E:   Amazing Grace***, Costume Contest****, The Squirming Coil

* - Included Vibration of Life & Death, and a War Pigs quote/tease
    (Black Sabbath tune)

** - Complete.  Pink Floyd tease at very beginning (Money - Cash 
     registers & Dark Side - Heartbeats), followed by Ed Sullivan
     Beatles intro, followed by Back in the USSR.  Birthday was not
     sung, during that portion Fishman presented Brad Sands from the
     production crew with a cake.  Brad appropriately came dressed
     as Fishman :-)  During Revolution Nine, Fishman pranced around
     naked, Good night was the original recorded version.

*** - acapella

**** - Trey had the crowd cheer for first 8 then 3 then 2 finalists
       that were picked out of the crowd during the show.  a Mound
       candy bar one.  The rest of the band were sorta vamping along
       during this.


As soon as someone sends me a complete White Album list, I'll repost.  Show
ran around 4:15 of music, got out at 3:20 am...  DAT audience clones
are availiable if someone (not me!) wants to run a tree.  email me if
you know how to run a tree and want to.

-Mikey

    I bet they were very careful with that vaccum cleaner whilst the
    fishman was naked....

i was at the show!!!

it was incredible!!!!!!!!
very long, jammin', and a cool venue.........  i was hopin' for
dark side when they teased... that would have been too good!!!

fun fun fun... and tiring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2 things:

If the shrub develops for tapes of the Halloween show, I'd be interested in 
participating.

Also, due to a scheduling conflict I have an extra ticket for tomorrow's 
Phish show at UMass. If anyone wants to head out with me, send me mail 
(hotpup::strobel) or call (dtn 381-0494).

jeff

    Wow!  Halloween was incredible... and also my first Phish show.
    
    What's with the teasers, though???  Once the cash registers started
    a-chingin', I was really psyched to hear Dark Side. Then they cut to
    the Ed Sullivan Beatles introduction.  Also, at the beginning of the
    third set, Trey started playing Trampled Underfoot (from Zeppelin -
    Physical Graffiti.)  It was nixed too!  Grr!
    
    Still, I was more than happy with The White Album.  (I actually saw
    people ASLEEP during this part of the show.  sheesh, no respect.)
    
    /Mike

    I'm learning a lesson from you guys.  One should never let
    work interfere with the attendance of a Phish show.  :-)
    Even if it is all night, a whole state away, in the middle
    of a work week.  

    I've learned, honest.  

>    I've learned, honest.  

good.  now don't let it happen again.  :^)

    It's not happening today, that's fer shure....  AMHERST HERE
    I COME!

    Tom

Yamon, i had no remorse what so ever blowing off tuesday after that
halloweed performance!!!!  we didn't crash until after 5am, i think, and
i was up even later 'cuz my mind wasn't quite ready to crash yet....


as for that stunt fishmon did, the strip in front of the audience thing, i
was very surprised that they did this... i'd expect them to get in big
freakin' trouble for voilated obscenity laws.  didn't Morrison get screwed
in L.A. for doing something similar moons ago??????  i didn't reall care,
i was more surprised that they did that stunt!

still, an excellent show!

    The thing thru the zipper incident was in Miami, Dade County
    Courthouse was where the hearing was JC

>                       -< Now did they REALLY see it?  >-

i think the security pholks were pretty tired by the time of the end of the
second set (~ 1:30 AM ?).  there really wasn't much of a security presence at
all from about 10:30 PM onward.  maybe they didn't even notice it :^)

- rich

I think Morrison ran into progressively worse trouble in New Haven & Miami. 
Various folks have done this over the years. Grace Slick (opened her blouse 
briefly), Bobby Brown (arrested in GA or SC or somewhere), the Red hot 
Chilli Peppers and probably some others. I suspect alot will depend on 
local laws and perceptions (i.e., a one time joke vs. provoking the 
audience).

    Wasn't the whole New Haven incident centered around the inciting of a
    riot because of the strong Johnny Law presence?

re: Morrison in FL

FL has pretty strict obsenity laws ... for men.  Bare your buns and you do 30
days and pay 'em a $500 fine.

NY seems a bit more liberal that way... with their topless_is_legal on all NY
beaches law!

- jeff

Hotline Message -- 11/3/94

        You've reached the Phish hotline.  This is a new message as of 
November 3rd.  If you are calling for tapers' ticket mail order 
information only, you can reach the tapers' hotline at 617.862.2128.  
Year-end shows tapers' ticket information is currently available at 
that number.

        Phish is on tour now and will continue through mid-December.  
There will be a break at Christmas, and then there will be four shows 
in the Northeast up to and including New Year's Eve.  After New 
Year's, Phish will not tour again in the US until late summer of 1995.  
Here are the confirmed show dates for the rest of 1994:

<info for shows from 11/3 thru 12/10 deleted - see previous 237.* replies>

On December 28th, Phish will play at the Philadelphia Civic Center in 
Philadelphia PA.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on sale 
November 5th at 10 am at the Civic Center box office (no service 
charge) and at TicketMaster locations in the Delaware Valley region; 
this includes Eastern Pennsylvania starting with Harrisburg, 
Southern New Jersey starting at Trenton, and Northern Delaware 
down to Newark.  The charge by phone number is 215.336.2000.  
There will be a 4-ticket limit per person.

December 29th, Providence Civic Center in Providence RI.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale November 5th at 10 am 
at the Civic Center box office (no service charge) and TicketMaster 
outlets in the states of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, 
Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut.  The charge by phone 
numbers are 401.331.2211, 617.931.2000, 508.931.2000, 
413.733.2500, 603.626.5000, 207.775.3331, 203.744.8100, 
203.525.4500, 203.624.0033, and 802.862.5300.  There will be a 4-
ticket limit per person.  These are the same charge by phone 
numbers as New Year's Eve, and you will able to order up to 4 tickets 
for each show during the course of the same phone call if you wish to 
do so.  If you go to the Providence Civic Center box office, you will be 
able to purchase tickets for Providence only; Boston Garden tickets 
will not be available at that location.

December 30th, Madison Square Garden in New York City.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets will go on sale November 5th at 10 am 
at the Madison Square Garden box office (no service charge) and 
TicketMaster locations in the New York City area, in Northern New 
Jersey, in Southern Connecticut, and in the Syracuse area.  The charge 
by phone numbers are 212.307.7171, 914.454.3388, 516.888.9000, 
and 201.507.8900.  There will be a 6-ticket limit per person.  
Wristbands are being distributed now at TicketMaster outlets.

and December 31st, New Year's Eve, Phish will play at the Boston 
Garden in Boston MA.  Seating will be reserved and tickets will go on 
sale November 5th at 10 am at the Boston Garden box office (no 
service charge) and at TicketMaster outlets in the states of Maine, 
New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island.  The 
charge-by-phone numbers are 401.331.2211, 617.931.2000, 
508.931.2000, 413.733.2500, 603.626.5000, 207.775.3331, 
203.744.8100, 203.525.4500, 203.624.0033, and 802.862.5300.  
There will be a 4-ticket limit per person.  These are the same charge 
by phone numbers as Providence, and you will able to order up to 4 
tickets for each show during the course of the same phone call if you 
wish to do so.  If you go to the Boston Garden box office, you will be 
able to purchase tickets for the Boston Garden show only; Providence 
tickets will not be available at that location.  Wristbands are being 
distributed now at TicketMaster outlets and at the Boston Garden box 
office.

If you would like to be on the mailing list for the Phish newsletter, 
send your address on a postcard to Phish Mailing List, P. O. Box 219, 
Lexington, Massachusetts, 02173.  If you're correcting your address 
with us, let us know both the old one and the new one so we can 
keep our records accurate.  If you are interested in taping at Phish 
concerts, you should call the tapers' hotline at 617.862.2128 for 
tapers' ticket information.


The Phish Hotline number is 617.862.7820.


Shelly

    Re: Morrison @ Miami - don't forget, that was almost 25 years ago...  I
    think it's the show that is depicted in the movie The Doors - the real
    out-of-control wild scene he did in early 1970 (1969?)or so...one of my best
    friends was there...a week or so later, out on bail, they showed up at
    the Philly Spectrum just in time for my first concert ever...;-)
    
    I remember it was a big deal back then - especially when we thought he
    might not show up in Philly...
    
    Still not as wierd as Ozzy biting the heads off of bats or setting a
    sheep on fire, IMHO...;-)
    
    tim
    

    Any word on the NYE show being broadcast over the radio as it has the
    past two years?
    
    Jamie

    According to the hotline message wrist bands are being handed out now
    for tomorrow's tix sales for New Year's. Think they'll be necessary?
    (ie. if I'm planning to get tix 2morrow should I go get a wrist band
    tonite or might I be able to score without a wrist band?)
    
    								-jeff

From:   CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson"
To:     [email protected]
CC:
Subj:   New Year's Eve Series tickets

Tickets for Boston Garden 12/31 sold out at 11:15 am.  Anyone who
was waiting at an outlet when the sale started should have been
able to get tickets.  Madison Square Garden sold out at approximately
1:30 pm.  Tickets are still available for Philadelphia and Providence.
Philadelphia could sell out by Monday; Providence may take a little
longer.


Shelly

    I lucked out Saturday morning, ended up 7th in line and I
    guess did pretty well with tix.

    Thursday's show was intense.  The crowd was serious.  We
    got there a little late due to time taken for parking and
    entering, so (sadly) missed Fee and half of Divided Sky.
    But the rest of the show was excellent, as were my seats -
    except I was on an aisle, which meant dancing phishheads
    bumping up against me the whole show. But worth it to
    see Trey wail.  

    Who else could you go see that would sing Amazing Grace
    and Highway to Hell in the same encore?

    "Down with Disease" was a highlight.

    Too non-music notes about aggravation suffered Thursday night.

    One, is partly good news.  Getting to my seat the Mullins
    Center was tough!  The aisles were jam packed.  It was dark.
    I'll never show up late again.  The good news - Phish fans
    are friendly.  Everybody just got out of the way, then
    continued dancing.

    Item 2, lemme blow off steam.. I'm driving home from Worcester
    at 2:30 a.m. Friday morning and the entrance ramp from 290 to
    495 is closed!!! What gives!?!!!  Then you get off in Hudson
    on 85, and go to 62 to the next entrance ramp... also CLOSED!!
    And NOT ONE SINGLE SIGN (pardon the shouting) to indicate	
    which way to go. Sure, I'm hip, I can drive the back roads...
    but what does an out of towner do?  (Honestly, I got lost..
    it was horrible).  

    But the show was great. :-)

> Friday morning and the entrance ramp from 290 to 495 is closed!!! What
> gives!?!!!  Then you get off in Hudson on 85, and go to 62 to the next
> entrance ramp... also CLOSED!!  And NOT ONE SINGLE SIGN (pardon the
> shouting) to indicate which way to go. Sure, I'm hip, I can drive the back
> roads...  but what does an out of towner do?  

I discovered this wonderful aspect of "Boston Driving Culture" out rather
quickly a little over 2 years ago when I moved to this region...  

        "If yah don't know where you're goin', 
         yah got no business goin' there."

Translation:  It's *YOUR* responsibilty as a citizen to know what construction
is taking place at all times day and night!  And of course you shouldn't
expect our overworked and underpaid constructino crews to post fourteen
billion detour signs for EVERY POSSIBLE person who just happens to be cruising
through!  Besides, what the hell are you doing out at 2:30am, anyways!?  

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)


- jeff_who_plays_the_part_of_the_Massachusettes
  Highway_Construction_Director_in_his_dreams_(NOT!)

Date:	 8-NOV-1994 01:06:09.97
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson"
Subj:	Boston Hotel Rooms, New Year's Eve
To:	[email protected]

Our travel agent, Lillian, has kindly held some hotel rooms
for Phish fans coming to town on New Year's Eve.  The rooms
are at the Sheraton and at the Holiday Inn - one is within
walking distance of the Boston Garden, the other is not.
The rooms aren't cheap, but the rates are negotiated group
rates, and probably better than you'd be able to find in
town otherwise - $149 for the rooms within walking distance,
$110 for the ones further away.  These are not the hotels
where the band and crew are staying, if you were wondering.
If you're interested, you can call Lillian at:
800.343.6660 from out of Massachusetts, 617.332.2100 within
Massachusetts.  If you call her, please be nice, as she is
a very good-hearted person and a joy to work with.  The only
reason I am posting this is to help people find a place to
stay for the night.  Thank you.


Shelly

    
         Any extra's for New Year's at BG. Suppose there is any chance BG
         will free up any tickets at a future date?
    
         Also I'd like to find out how to get into Phish net  -- any
         pointers?
    
    
         Thanks,
         Cathy

I'd suggest you call TicketMonster again.  Usually they 
seem to free up some seats after a day or two, as the
credit checks on various credit cards fail, and they
cancel orders from those customers.  I've picked up seats
this way on one or two occasions - call them again and
see.

If you have access to the Usenet News Groups, go to
rec.music.phish to look around, but from the looks of
things, there is already a ton of grovelling going on 
there...If additional seats are freed up by the band,
the venue or TicketMonster, it might show up there first.

Good luck,

tim

From:	US1RMC::"[email protected]" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 13-JUL-1994 00:33:40.76
To:	awats::westervelt
CC:	
Subj:	Welcome


  Welcome to Phish-Info.  Phish-Info is one service of the Phish.NET, and
 is designed to get information to participants as soon as possible.  This
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From:	US1RMC::"[email protected]" "Rosemary" 13-JUL-1994 09:45:08.85
To:	awats::westervelt
CC:	
Subj:	phish net

Welcome to the Phish Net!  I can tell from your recent post that you
are a "newbie" and I thought I would take this opportunity to tell you
a little about the net.

The first thing you should probably do is make sure that you know how
to use your system.  How to read the Net and more importantly, how to
respond to posts you find interesting.  You might practice sending
mail to a friend first if you are not sure exactly what you are doing.
There should be someone at your site that will teach you what you need
to know, but I might be able to help you if there is no other way.
Remember that you do not have to POST your responses -- private email
is often the way to go, especially if your answer is one of little
interest to the thousands of people who read the net.

The next thing you should probably do is get a hold of the Frequently
Asked Questions file.  (Also known as the FAQ.)  This is a rather long
document, but it tells you just about everything you would ever want
to know about Phish.  You can get this file two ways:  Send mail to
[email protected] with the word "help" in the subject line and
body of your letter,    or ftp to archive.phish.net in the
directory pub/phish/text_files -- also at the archive site is a file
containing the known lyrics to songs, setlists for every show, chord
tabulation, and much more.

Before you post anything you might want to read the net for a week or
so to get the hang of how it all works.  However, the Net is what WE
make it so feel free to put new ideas out there, as long as they are
within reason.

If you are looking for tapes, keep your eyes open.  Often someone
offers to tape the blanks you send them, especially if you have a
meager collection.  Grovels for recent shows are usually ignored by
anyone who has the tapes (tapers, usually) but if you're patient
someone will run a tree or offer to trade.  

OK, I hope you enjoy the Phish Net as much as I do.  I am not a Net
administrator or anything, I just want the net to be a happy and
flame-free environment for everyone.  Feel free to email me if you
have any questions.

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My niece is dying to see PHISH on 12/30 at MSG.  Any possibility of snagging
a couple of tickets?

	dave

    
    Looking for a couple tix to Phish on New Years.
                                    
    Feel free to send mail....  delni::dsmith
    
    
    		- Deane'o

The short version:

More MSG and BG Phish Tickets will GO ON SALE TODAY AT 5pm via Ticket#@($*!

The long version follows...

- jeff


-------------------------
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson" 21-DEC-1994 20:35:50.71
To:	[email protected]
CC:	
Subj:	Hotline Update, 12.21; MSG & NYE ticket release

Hotline Message -- 12/21/94

        You've reached the Phish hotline.  This is a new message as of 
December 21st.    

        Phish will be playing four shows leading up to and including 
New Year's Eve.  Here are the show dates for the rest of 1994:

On December 28th, Phish will play at the Philadelphia Civic Center in 
Philadelphia PA.  This show is sold out.

December 29th, Providence Civic Center in Providence RI.  Seating 
will be reserved and tickets are still available at the Civic Center box 
office (no service charge) and at TicketMaster: 401.331.2211.

December 30th, Madison Square Garden in New York City.  A small 
number of tickets for this show are being released today at 5 pm by 
TicketMaster phones only, with a limit of two tickets per person.  The 
charge-by-phone number is 212.307.7171.

and December 31st, New Year's Eve, Phish will play at the Boston 
Garden in Boston MA.  A small number of tickets for this show are 
being released today at 5 pm by TicketMaster phones only, with a 
limit of two tickets per person.  The charge-by-phone number is 
617.931.2000.  If you are coming to this show, please take public 
transportation, because due to other events in Boston that night, all 
of the public parking will be filled.  Public transportation will still be 
running for at least 30 minutes after the show has finished.  

If you would like to be on the mailing list for the Phish newsletter, 
send your address on a postcard to Phish Mailing List, P. O. Box 219, 
Lexington, Massachusetts, 02173.  If you're correcting your address 
with us, let us know both the old one and the new one so we can 
keep our records accurate.  If you are interested in taping at Phish 
concerts, you should call the tapers' hotline at 617.862.2128 for 
tapers' ticket information.

If you came in partway through this message, stay on the line and it 
will repeat in a few seconds.  Thanks for calling, and check back soon 
for updated information.


The Phish Hotline number is 617.862.7820.


Shelly

>                                               -< MORE TICKETS GO ON SALE *TODAY*!!! >-
> More MSG and BG Phish Tickets will GO ON SALE TODAY AT 5pm via Ticket#@($*!


Rut roh... the 21st was YESTERDAY, not today.  So much for e-mail getting here
quickly :-(


- jeff_generally_a_day_behind_the_trend_...8-}

A friend of mine has 1 MSG ticket that he'd like to trade for a Boston ticket. 
Send me mail if interested.

adam

Date:	28-DEC-1994 01:36:54.67
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson"
Subj:	More Philly tickets available
To:	[email protected]

A few additional tickets have been released for Phish's show in
Philadelphia on Wednesday, 12/28.  They are available at TicketMaster
outlets now.


Shelly

Date:	28-DEC-1994 00:48:32.55
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Shelly Culbertson"
Subj:	Phish on Letterman, Friday 12/30
To:	[email protected]

The David Letterman show on Friday, 12/30, will feature Phish.
David's other guest will be Seinfeld.


Shelly

one phish ticket available for NYE at the Boston Garden

Loge 14, Row 5, Seat 1  (i believe that's side-stage on Fishman's side)

cost: $27 (face value plus ticketbastard charges)

if you want it, you'll need to make arrangements to pick it up from me ASAP in
Hudson, MA  (HLO2) - i'm not going to the show, and i'm leaving work early
today

- rich
ROCK::FROMM
dtn 225-4310 (that's 508-568-4310 from the outside)

re: my xtra phish ticket

if i can't find anyone to buy it today, is there anyone here today in hudson
or marlboro that's going to the show anyway and would be willing to sell it
for me down at the gahden?

- rich

    Excepting a certain artist I have a particular thing for, the
    New Years Eve Phish gig was the best concert experience I've
    ever had in my life.

    
    I must say, near riot conditions Saturday night.  Evryone was pumped. 
    
    INCREDIBLY SMOKEY!!!!  Major tobacco consumption. I could barely see 
    the stage.  Otherwise, going to Phish is definitely liv'n lahge.

    If anyone has a tape of the Phish gig on Letterman last Friday
    night, I'd be greatly obliged if I could borrow it.  I have lots
    of stuff to trade... or you could just earn my heartfelt gratitude! :-)

Phish only played Chalk Dust Torture on Letterman.  I can lend you the video.
It's less than 5 minutes...no big deal, really.

	dave
	

    
    
    Setlists for PROVIDENCE 12/29 and New Years, please....
    
     I need to know the name of that opening tune of the 2nd set on 12/29!
    
     I kind of wish I went to New Year's now. I decided to skip it cuz I'm
     getting old and grumpy. 

re: setlists

i'll post 'em as soon as i get 'em from phish-info

re: providence

pretty amazing david bowie.  seems like it went on for about 30 minutes.

re: letterman

i think they did a decent job with the appearance.  at first it seemed quite
a bit rushed, and trey looked like he was a little nervous.  but after getting
thru a number of verse-chorus stanzas in rapid succession, they did at least
do a little bit of jamming.  nothing too much, but a bit more interesting than
most bands i've seen on letterman.  i also think it was cool that they didn't
play something off of hoist.  but why was fishman wearing a shirt under his
dress?

- rich

fishman w/ a shirt on Letterman -- probably because of the artic-like 
temperatures of the Ed Sullivan Theater.

12/29 - my nephew came through with tickets (repaying me for taking him to 
HIghgate I guess). You're right about the version of David Bowie. It was 
certainly well over 20 minutes. It was nice to finally get into the Civic 
Center out of the cold. Very good show

jeff

providence was a ton -o- fun.
livin' very lahge as deano would say...
lllaaaaaaate night... good show.

couldn't convince rich to go to the bah after
the show though.

i could have stayed up all night, and actually
did stay up most of the night!

Date:	 6-JAN-1995 22:55:00.89
From:	CRL::"[email protected]" "Michael G Perrott"
Subj:	setlists, 1994 holiday tour
To:	[email protected]

Civic Center, Philadelphia PA

12/28/94

I:   Mound > Simple, Julius, Bathtub Gin, Bouncing Around the Room,
     Axilla pt II, Reba*, Dog Faced Boy, It's Ice, Run Like an Antelope

II:  Suzie Greenberg, NICU, Mike's Song > The Mango Song, Weekapaug
     Groove**, Contact, Llama, Love You, The Squirming Coil

E:   Bold As Love

* - No whistle part
** - with a "Little Drummer Boy" jam



Civic Center, Providence RI

12/29/94


I:   Runaway Jim > Foam, If I Could, Split Open and Melt, The Horse >
     Silent in the Morning, Uncle Pen, I Didn't Know, Possum

II:  Guyute, David Bowie*, Halley's Comet > LIzards, Cracklin Rosie, 
     Good Times Bad Times

E:   Two Dollar Bill, Sleeping Monkey

* - 35 minutes long


David Letterman Show - 12/30/94

Chalk Dust Torture


Madison Square Garden, New York NY

12/30/94

I:   Wilson > Rift, AC/DC Bag > Sparkle, Simple, Stash, Fee > Scent of
     a Mule, Cavern

II:  Sample in a Jar, Poor Heart > Tweezer, Blue and Lonesome*, You 
     Enjoy Myself, Purple Rain, Harry Hood, Tweezer Reprise

E:   Frankenstein
 
* - acoustic

Boston Garden, Boston MA

12/31/94

I:    Golgi Apparatus*, NICU, Run Like An Antelope@, Glide, Mound,
      Peaches en Regalia, Divided Sky, Funky Bitch

II:   My Old Home Place**, Maze, Bouncing Around The Room, Mike's Song > 
      Buffalo Bill > Mike's Song > Yerushalyim Shel Zahav > 
      Weekapaug Groove, Amazing Grace

III:  My Sweet One#, Also Sprach Zarathustra > NYE Loaded Sausage 
      Extravaganza#, Chalk Dust Torture***, The Horse > Silent in the 
      Morning, Suzie Greenberg, Slave to the Traffic Light

E:    Simple****
 
* - show started with some recorded music, reported as the Boston
Bruin's theme/fight song, then Golgi
@ - Tom Marshall guest singer
**  - electric (first electric MOHP?)
# - Before the lights go out, you "overhear" the band before the set,
Fish winds up saying "I want a jumbo hot dog, large fries and shake"
delivered on stage.  Band comes out, starts up My Sweet One, and is
inturrupted by an announcer (Brad?) asking who orderd the food.  Band
points at Fish, Fish looks confused as huge props of dog, fries and
shake decend from ceiling next to drum set (band plays ASZ during the
landing of the dog)  Technicians (wearing "Rocket Scientist" jackets)
prep the dog, band climbs in (with instruments) and flies out over the
audience, as balloons pop and feathers, confetti and "phish NYE 1994"
ping poing balls fall from the ceiling.  Various music plays as the
hot dog space ship flies back and forth (suspended from a track in the
ceiling), including some funk and auld lang syne.
*** - Mike's grandmother comes out on stage, walks around and kisses
Mike.
**** - Auld Lang Syne jam at end


thanks to lots of people for lists

-Mikey

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      There is a review of the NYE Phish show in the latest issue of
    Rolling Stone( Page and Plant on cover)....it seems to me that the
    guy that wrote it wasn't even at the show!!!....if he was, man, was
    he outtuv it....
    

    Is it by Paul Robicheau?  If so, I saw someone comment on this
    in rec.music.phish.  Paul is said to have written a number of
    knowledgeable and positive reviews of Phish (his stuff is in
    the Glob a lot), so the random speculation was that someone
    mucked with his comments.

    But I haven't read it, so I can't judge.  I certainly thought
    the NYE show was awesome, it was one of the best concerts I've
    ever been to in my life.  Maybe RS has an anti-Phish bias? (if
    there is such a thing)

    Tom
    

    Tom
    not all deadheads are into phish....
    
    chris

    
    
     The review in RS wasn't negative, it was WRONG.
    
     It said they played the White Album. WRONG. (Halloween show).
    
    
    
     Maybe the dude is just a serious tripper. :-P

anyone know of the summer tour dates/locations?
since it doesn't appear i'll be going skiing this
march/april, i might as well take a week off and
check out phish & the boyz.

    chris, (.557) what's your point?  Was the reviewer a head?

    RS holds the Dead in a pretty good light and seemed to compare Phish
    to them...when you said they may have had an anti-Phish bias(if there
    was such a thing :^) I was just saying it is possible that some people
    don't find them that appealing...