Conference rdvax::grateful

Ok, I confess, I worked too hard last week, didn't read Grateful, and
so missed the mail order dates for both Old Orchard and GrateWoods :( :( :(

Is it too late to mail order now?
Is it too early to start grovelling for tix? :)

(yah, I know, phone orders happen on May 25th, but I have never, ever, ever
managed to get tix by phone -- must be cursed;  worse still, I'm outta town
on the 25th... sigh)

    NEXT ticket, even tho it is a lengthy pain in the ass actually may be
    pretty easy to get thru....
    we didn't save any$$ when they changed over from ticketshafter, it is
    just a little easier calling in

I'm 2 for 2 in ordering tickets through Next. They're no bargain and have 
what I perceive (and mentioned to them via email) is somewhat less than 
upfront as far as revenue recognition. If you get tickets from them the 
charge hits your account that month, but you do not receive the tickets 
until 2-3 weeks before the concert. So for the 4 Buffett shows, for 
example, it's about 40,000 tickets at ~$40 a seat, or $1.6 million. They 
get this from mid March until the beginning of August which, without 
compounding th interest at a simple 6% gives Don Law an extra 8 grand just 
for being the swell fella that he is. My question to them, that I doubt 
will get answered never mind implemented, was with their computerized 
system they should be able to match the shipment date of the tickets to the 
time the charge hits the person's account.

jeff

    I'm not defending Law, Next, or ticketshafeter, but:
    
    they have to charge your account now, to ensure that they get paid.
    
    otherwise you could order tickets now,
    run your card up to its limit, and when they tried
    to charge your account at ticket shipment time, 
    the charge would not be authorized by the card company.
    
    selling tickets 4-6 months in advance lets them figure out how many
    extra shows to book.
    
    $.02, fwiw...
    
    

    Then they should mail the damn tickets immediately.  That's
    my feeling on the subject.  If you're heading out of town,
    or if the tix are for someone else, or if you're just the
    nervous sort, it doesn't do a hell of a lot of good to hope
    they'll show up.  Any mistakes or problems with the order
    and you're *really* screwed.

    Tom

    Example, when you buy Ticketmaster at an outlet, you get the
    billets in your hot little hands instantly.  Plus you see
    exactly what your seat is.  

    Can anybody suggest a logical rationale for delaying the
    mailing?  What does it buy NEXT?

    Tom

The reason why major league teams hold tickets until just before the start of 
the season is to postpone the start of scalping of tickets.  If a show doesn't 
sell out, it would be better if the only place to get tickets was from the 
vendor of the tickets without competition from resellers.

Jim

I can see it limiting scalping in the sense that these ticket "agencies" 
won't have the tickets in hand to sell (i.e., they can't tell you if you're 
in the 3rd or 300th row for your $150 a seat). However, they can still get 
commitments from the scum who order tickets for them and can size how many 
tickets they'll have so they can still offer them and get potential sales.

jeff

    man, i'm lost in this discussion....just gimme my freakin tickets, damn
    it!

just don't get it confused with the OTHER discussion
you were confused in, or Barbie will be going to the show
with your tickets and some guy with no gonads...

			da ve

so, Barbie's Ken is the Porsche guy? ;-)

    he drives that pink corvette silly
    
    

One good thing about Next is when you order tickets on the phone, the
computer tells you what section and row you are in.

Here's a weird thing that happened to me.  I bought 2 Allman Bros pavillion
tix, from a Next outlet, the day they went on sale.  I got section 8, row
M, seats 13-14.  Not bad considering I waited til late in the day to buy
the tickets.  Then, about a week later, I ordered 2 more pavillion tix for
a friend, using the phone.  I got section 7, row T, which in my opinion is
better!  It's a few rows further back, but more towards the center.  The
woman at the counter told me that they sell tickets from the center out. 
Perhaps the section 7 tix were near one of those thick concrete beams that
hold up the roof, and that deemed them worse seats.  I was going to email
Next about this, but they'll probably come back saying the good seats were
put back on sale after a bogus credit card tried to order them initially
(which is certainly possible).

adam

    re;
    
    just don't get it confused with the OTHER discussion
    you were confused in, or Barbie will be going to the show
    with your tickets and some guy with no gonads...
    
      whew! thanks for straightening me out there, da ve!  %^)
    
    rfb

    At least you won't have to listen to that damned songbird! 
    
    gary

    I have two extra Bruce Hornsby tix for his Saturday show
    at Avalon with the Aquarium Rescue Unit. Doors open at 6
    for this show. The tix were 20.00 were usual related
    extraneous charges. Send mail and I can deliver em where
    needed.
    
    Mike