Conference rdvax::grateful

    I didn't see a topic for Dead related merchandise so let's use this
    topic for this stuff. Note .1 is a listing of new stuff available from
    Key-Z Productions.

    New releases from Key-Z Productions
    
    This flyer came in the mail last week and had some interesting stuff:
    
    BOOKS:
    
    The Further Inquiry--Ken Kesey
    ------------------------------
    Published 1990. Hardback, first edition, signed by author. The Merry
    Pranksters' 1964 voyage aboard Further is probably the best known
    adventure of an adventurous decade. The Further Inquiry is Kesey's
    reexamination of the adventure 25 years later, in the form of the
    "trial" of Neal Cassady's spirit--a serious meditation of the '60s
    along with 150 previously unpublished color photos. *30.00*
    
    Demon Box--Ken Kesey
    --------------------
    Published 1986. Hardback, first edition, signed by author. Demon Box
    begins where Tom Wolfe's Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test left off, and
    according to Kesey is, "a journal of the come down years." In the book
    Kesey portrays himself as "Deboree" in this interesting collection of
    stories on life after the '60s. *25.00*
    
    AUDIO TAPES:
    
    Tricker (60 min)
    ----------------
    Story by/Story teller Ken Kesey. Includes three songs written by Kesey
    and performed with Jerry Garcia and the Thundermachine Band. *8.00*
    
    Neal Cassady (60 min)
    ---------------------
    Original, unedited recordings from the 1960s. *10.00
    
    The Lennon Story (45 min)
    -------------------------
    Now we know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall. Story by/
    Storyteller Ken Kesey. *7.00*
    
    Abdul and Ebenezer (45 min)
    ---------------------------
    Story by/Storyteller Ken Kesey. Taped on location in Eugene, OR *7.00*
    
    To order:
    
    Send a check or MO for the full amount plus $3.00 shipping and handling
    to:
    
    Key-Z Productions
    755 Polk St.
    Eugene, OR 97402
    (503)484-4315
    
    

       I saw that KEY-Z productions has a video of one of the Acid Tests,
    has anybody seen this?  Is it worth getting....I know it's about an 
    hour long and they want something like thirty five bucks for it.
    
    
    
    Sean
    

    Hey now
    
    	All through the Electric kool aid book,,, Tom WOlfe describes
    different points along their cross country trek where they were
    "making a movie". 'twould be interesting to se,.. if thats what Key-Z
    Productions is selling. Does anybody know? Has anybody ever seen any
    of the footage Tom Wolfe described being shot? I'd be interested to
    see it myself.
    
    						/
    

    
    About 15 years ago the Whitney Museum of Art in NYC showed the video
    of the bus trip.  My friend and I went with all these expectations of
    see a great piece of "art".  Even in our altered state of mind, it just
    seemed like someone's home movies (and not too good at that!).  One
    thing that struck us was how dated the movie was!  
    
    Reread the book - your own visual is probably a better "trip".
    
    Fredda

    That's funny.  Although I've never seen the film, I had heard (perhaps
    from a friend, long ago) exactly what you describe - poor quality home
    movies.  Not surprising, considering their condition at the time.  Also
    heard that there was a similar effort done in England by the Beatles,
    with the well known title of 'Magical Mystery Tour'.  Same results.
    
    tim
    

       In this Acid Test video, there is supposed to some very rare footage
    of the Dead playing a few songs....they claim the audio portion sounds
    great too.
    
    
     still_curious_about_it
    
     Sean
    

    	I've been meaing to post thisd for a while.
    
    	Tom constanten has produced two cassette tapes of "prepared
    piano" works. Some of these are real pianos, some are sampled sounds,
    and some are just keybaord type stuff.
    
    	Outsides			$ 8.00
    	Fresh Tracks in Real Time	$10.00
    
    	Postage and Handling		$ 1.50 per order (one tape or two).
    
    	Send to
    
    	Tom Constanten
    	P.O. Box 20195
    	Oakland, Ca 94620
    
    	I ordered both, they are very interesting. I asked him to autogragh
    them and he did.
    
    	Mystery
    

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From: tnf@well (David Gans)
Subject: Conversations with the Dead
Date: 3 Sep 91 18:29:41 GMT


My new book, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEAD, is starting to hit the stores.
It's got interviews with Garcia, Weir, Lesh, Hart, Robert Hunter, John
Barlow, and even Steve Parish!  Also the first EVER interview with Owsley
Stanley, aka Bear.  And cover art by the late Rick Griffin.

The publisher is Citadel Underground.

I'll upload some excerpts in the next few days.

------------------------------

    
    Heard on the radio on the way in this morning:
    
    Mickey Hart will be in the area on October 24th for a signing of his
    new book "Planet Drum".  The signing will take place at 7:30PM but the
    dam* DJ mumbled the location and I didn't hear it...  Some Mall I'm
    pretty sure.
    
    Anyone hear this?
    
    TreeDrum

          <<< Note 34.10 by LJOHUB::RILEY "You're twisting my air!" >>>
                       -< Planet Drum, New Mickey Book >-
>    dam* DJ mumbled the location and I didn't hear it...  Some Mall I'm
>    pretty sure.
 
Yeah treemon,

I heard this and think it was at the BU book store and I did hear the
word mall too.  Something like The Mall at the BU bookstore or the 
BU Bookstore MAll or or or....Date and time are correct.  

Also a new Hart LP called Planet Drum with lotsa old rythym devils on
it....flora, airto, hart and lots more.  Heard some cuts from it and it
was GREAT.  

bob

          <<< Note 34.10 by LJOHUB::RILEY "You're twisting my air!" >>>
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, I oughtta sick my lawyer on ya for plagerizin' this one!!!

many :-)

I picked up the Planet Drum CD yesterday, but haven't listened to it yet.
The book is dupposed to be released next week.

peace,
t!ng

           <<< Note 34.13 by SKYLRK::TING "Give Peace a Chance!!!" >>>
>I picked up the Planet Drum CD yesterday, but haven't listened to it yet.
>The book is dupposed to be released next week.

hey now t!ng,

Be sure to tell us how the cd is.  I only heard what was played
on the radio during the interview Hart had on 'Bcn with Parenteau.

bob

    
    Indeed T!ng...
    
    Please do tell...  That one'll surely make it to the top of my B-Day
    list with even a moderate recommendation...  The more I see Mickey at
    the shows, the more this idol-less rhythm monger starts to idolize!!!
    
    I am truly moved and inspired by Mickey's work...
    
    Tree

    
    And thanks too to Bob H., for the details on the location...
    
    I should probably try to call one of the radio stations to find out
    definitively...
    
    Treemon

no need to thank me treemon - i heard it on the radio too and
wanted to put a note in but forgot....

so thanks to you!
bob

>Be sure to tell us how the cd is.  I only heard what was played
>on the radio during the interview Hart had on 'Bcn with Parenteau.

Ok, I will, but I was thinking of giving it to Randy for his birthday
along with the book and a ticket to see Planet Drum.  They're going to
be in Berkeley on his birthday (November 16th).  Do you think Randy
would bum if I gave him an opened CD??  If not, I think I'll have to
sneak a listen.

BTW, if this Planet Drum tour is anything like the one I saw in Marin
a couple of years ago, you folks really should check it out!  It was
more like theatre than a concert - very wild!!

peace,
t!ng

RE           <<< Note 34.18 by SKYLRK::TING "Give Peace a Chance!!!" >>>

>be in Berkeley on his birthday (November 16th).  Do you think Randy
>would bum if I gave him an opened CD??  If not, I think I'll have to
>sneak a listen.

Nah; my brother usually does this before giving me CDs at Xmas time!

I have no prob. w/ it.

 

>be in Berkeley on his birthday (November 16th).  Do you think Randy
>would bum if I gave him an opened CD??  If not, I think I'll have to
>sneak a listen.

yeah as we always used to say with the vinyl format:

"we just had to check it out to make sure it didn't skip!"

:) holds true for cds too considering that I bought the "one from the vault"
and it has one disc of Dead and the other disk was the current latest Yes
lp. 

:)
bob

i bought the one and only Blind Faith CD for my brother.  Everything was
right about it: the packaging, the song list, the printed material on the
disc, etc.  Then, much to our surprise, we played it and out came 4 Seasons!!
Classical Music on an acid rock 'n' roll album!!!

boy did we crack up!

Well, I snuck a listen to the Planet Drum CD over the weekend, and
I still say "Get It"!!  Although it's hard to remember after two
years, the CD sounds like the concert/play I saw two years ago
by the same name that Mickey and friends put on.  "Friends" include
Sikuru Adepoju, Zakir Hussain, Airto Moreira, Babatunde Olatunji,
Flora Purim, Bruce Langhorne, Gordy Ryan, T.H. "Vikku" Vinayakram,
Molonga Casquelord, Giovanni Hidalgo, Frank Colon, Caryl Ohrbach,
and Jeff Sterling.  The CD features a variety of percussion pieces
and tribal chanting.  There's a little booklet that came with the
CD which describes the various instruments they used for each song.
They range from Portuguese wooden shoes (tamanco) to rain stick to
a Jew's harp.  If you didn't like drums during Dead shows, you'd
love this CD; and if you love drums, you're going to be in heaven!!
It gives you pictures of tigers, and lions, and bears (oh my!! 8-)
and forests and tribes gathered around a bonfire doing their rituals.
A wild untamed (yes, I'm being redundant on purpose) CD no one should
be missing in their collection (DISCLAIMER:  I do not work for Ryko
Disk nor do I have any benefits in posting this free ad for them ;-).

re < Note 34.22 by SKYLRK::TING "Give Peace a Chance!!!" >

>Flora Purim, Bruce Langhorne, Gordy Ryan, T.H. "Vikku" Vinayakram,
	      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	wow, he's still around?!  He played acoustic and electric guitar on 
Dylan's Another Side of Bob Dylan (I think), Bringing It All Back Home, 
Highway 61, and Blonde on Blonde (I think).

	Josh

      A co-worker of mine who is seriously into dealing baseball cards just
    handed me a full page ad from a trade mag.  The ad is for ROCKCARDS
    from some company named BROCKUM....anyways, in the ad it talks about
    randomly inserted "Legacy" cards...Series One featuring (you guessed
    it) the Grateful Dead...ten different cards in all...there is also a
    picture of the Jerry card among the cards they show...Now, lets see...
    there are 288 cards in the complete set, 13 cards in a pack,...I wonder
    how long and how much it would cost to get the 10 Dead cards... :-o ?
    
         Remember...card collecting is very addicting...so just say NO!
    
                   :-)  DaveB.

   Yes, the rumors are true...
   
           The Golden Road is coming Back!
   
   Blair and Regan are planning to put out a big "double issue" in
   late February/early March.  This will be the only issue for '92;
   maybe they'll do more in '93...
   
   They are seeking letters for their letters column: true stories,
   views on how the band sounds, what you think of Bruce and Vince,
   JGB, OFTV, Infrared Roses, Bob n Rob, Garcia-Grisman, Deadicated,
   the scene outside the shows, and so on...  
   
   For the "Funstuff" column, newspaper clips, GD TV & film sightings
   are needed.  Photos and Dead-related artwork are also needed.
   
   A free tape trader ad comes with each order; limited to ten words
   plus your name and address (no phone #'s pleez).  Personal messages
   are still $3 for 25 words or less; 10 cents for each word more.
   Product classified and ads also can also be purchased.
   
   Rush your check or money order for $8 ($10 outside US) payable to
   
           The Golden Road
           484 Lake Park Ave #82
           Oakland CA 94610
   
   Have your order in by Feb 1 to guarantee you'll be in the first mailing.
   
   Disclaimer:  Sorry for the slightly commercial bent of this posting.
   I am in no way affiliated with the Golden Road, besides being a 
   subscriber.

    
    I just got the coolest present! :-)
    
    It's called "Sunshine Daydreams", and it's a Grateful Dead Journal.
    A date book.. but not specific to one year, filled with lots of photos
    and graphics.  All the important Grateful Dead dates are noted, like
    birthdays, and album releases and special shows and stuff.  It's really
    layed out well and looks great!  I almost don't want to write in it
    but that's what it's for.  It was put together by Herb Greene, so a lot
    of the photos will be familiar to you.  But many of them have been
    superimposed with graphics and take on a whole new dimension!
    
    " This book is dedicated to all you deadheads out there: old and new,
    dudes and dudettes, suited and tie-dyed.  Without you the Wheel would
    not go round.  I salute you.
    
    Your pal,
    
    Herb Greene "
    
    

Hey now Phyllis;

I've got "Sunshine Daydream" too ... so did you figure out the significance
of the lightning bolt symbol next to some of the concert dates?

- Dave

    
    Nope, haven't looked at the dates and shows listed that closely yet.  I
    just figured it was killer shows.. I'll let you know if I come up with
    anything of significance. ;-)
    
    Phyllis
    

RE 26 -> 28

Phyllis & Dave:

This date book sounds great. How about filling the rest of us interested readers 
in on where we can get one of these. Does one have to order these from GDM or
are they available locally? Any idea as to how much?

Thanks.

Happy New Year

Jack 

    
    The only place anyone in NYC has found them so far is at Tower Books.
    
    Phyllis
    

I've seen it at Lauriat's in the Mall at Rockingham Park in good ol' Salem 
New Hampster.






Jim 

RE 30 & 31

Thanks for the help in locating this item. There is aLauriets just down the 
street from MSO2 so I think I'll try there first.

HAppY New Year

Jack

Jack;

I ordered mine when I went to the J.Garcia exhibit at an art gallery in
Concord MA a few months ago (forget the name of the gallery).

- Dave

    
    Oooh, that means you got a signed one, right Dave?
    
    

Nope, Jerry wasn't there at the time ... I don't know if he ever was there.

I did get Mickey to sign "Drumming at the Edge of Magic," though.  :^)

    
    Sorry, I meant signed by Herb Greene.  I thought it was a joint
    Garcia/Greene show and HG signed books ordered there.  I must be mixing
    it up with another gallery.
    
    

Whoa, I spaced ... nope, no Herb either.

    
    I got two copies of the journal for season gift giving (one for me and
    one for John Shep).  It is really pretty and I can't wait to flash it
    at meetings this year.  I'm trying to decide if I can bear to write in
    it.  
    
    carol

> Whoa, I spaced ... nope, no Herb either.

Hah!  ;-)

I forgot to send in my eight bucks. Too late? Can I get an update on this???


          <<< Note 34.25 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "Wake, now discover.." >>>
                         -< The Golden Road is back!! >-


   Yes, the rumors are true...
   
           The Golden Road is coming Back!
   
   Blair and Regan are planning to put out a big "double issue" in
   late February/early March.  This will be the only issue for '92;
   maybe they'll do more in '93...
   
   They are seeking letters for their letters column: true stories,
   views on how the band sounds, what you think of Bruce and Vince,
   JGB, OFTV, Infrared Roses, Bob n Rob, Garcia-Grisman, Deadicated,
   the scene outside the shows, and so on...  
   
   For the "Funstuff" column, newspaper clips, GD TV & film sightings
   are needed.  Photos and Dead-related artwork are also needed.
   
   A free tape trader ad comes with each order; limited to ten words
   plus your name and address (no phone #'s pleez).  Personal messages
   are still $3 for 25 words or less; 10 cents for each word more.
   Product classified and ads also can also be purchased.
   
   Rush your check or money order for $8 ($10 outside US) payable to
   
           The Golden Road
           484 Lake Park Ave #82
           Oakland CA 94610
   
   Have your order in by Feb 1 to guarantee you'll be in the first mailing.
   
   Disclaimer:  Sorry for the slightly commercial bent of this posting.
   I am in no way affiliated with the Golden Road, besides being a 
   subscriber.

    
    Good question.  I did get my check in but haven't heard anything. 
    Maybe I didn't do it by Feb. 1st.  I think you can probably still send
    one in.
    
    

Isn't Blair on the Net or the well? Anyone got his Email address?

    I don't know if Blair is, but David Gans is, and he'd probably
    know.  I think his address is [email protected].
    
    For what it's worth, They've cashed my check, but I haven't heard
    anything from them yet, either.

    
    A friend of mine takes pictures for Golden Road and received his copies
    in the mail today. You can still order it (see previous reply for
    ordering info). If you did order it you should see it very soon!
    
    Mike

..ah. but its too late to get an ad in, I see...

	Went to Spags at lunch. They still have a bunch of the Seven-packs of
	XLII's w/ 100 upgrade for $14.98 

Also, in the Olde School house...

	Tie dyes and Dead Tees!!! Some fairly psychodelic ones even.

Straight Tie dyes on FOTL's start at $8.98 and there are screen/dye combos 
running up to $16.98. There hanging out in Router Table section (my pers fav).

	Some are pretty nice.  No GDM copyrighted material..

Has anyone seen those crazy heat-sensitive T-shirts for sale; you'd touch
them and they'd change color in response to body heat?  Quickly-passing fad,
or fashion statement for the '90s?  I'd like to get one.

- thanks
  Dave

re .47                         Dead Stuff                           47 of 47

> Quickly-passing fad, or fashion statement for the '90s? 




	Yo dave ,..


	smile,.. :-)

	now,. rhetorical question follws re the above:

	Whats the difference?

	:-)

	They do sound cool,.. I'd like ot see how they look after
	a night a a dead show... maybe the shirt would have this 
	like charred brown/black color reflecting the state of mind
	of the person wearing it,. well,. if that person were me and all...

	:-)
	
								/

    I've never seem then any color but a dull pinkish-blue - even
    at Dead shows. They don't seem to work all that great.

The one I saw at Great Woods was working just fine ....

>  I've never seem then any color but a dull pinkish-blue - even
>    at Dead shows. They don't seem to work all that great.

My buddy was wearing one once and I accidentally threw my beer on him (it
was an accident, really, I would never intentionally waste beer!  A bee was
chasing me, and I *hate* bees!!!).  The shirt worked quite well!!! 

:-)

Dave

    my wife useta have one , she got tired of the "fondle" marks....
             rfb

       Does anyone know how to get a GDM catalog???
    

       >Does anyone know how to get a GDM catalog???
    
From note 16.*, try calling...

415-456 2883  or
800-225-3323

     will try tonight when I go home. Thanks for the assist..
    			

Howdy Folks;

There's a new shop in Merrimack NH called "Awearness" ... it's on Dan'l
Webster, a couple of miles past the intersection with Continental Blvd.,
just after the Country Gourmet restaurant on the left.  It's actually
in a railroad car on a small section of track.  :^)  Just a few miles
from MKO.

Lotsa neat hippie-ish jewelry, clothing, incense, paintings, pins, candles,
astrology-related material ... the couple who owns it are a lot of fun to talk
to.  Check it out if you get a chance.

- Dave

    
     I heard that Olin ski's signed a deal with the Dead.....
    next year they're gonna have tie-dye ski's with a dead design,
    probably a stealie or dancin' bear....
    
     I know the guy's that own STRANDS SKI SHOP in Worcester and they
    saw the ski's out in Vegas at the annual ski convention....
    
    Sean

    Old hat ... I've got dancin' bears on by bump skis, and steal-your-
    faces on my good skis already.  And K2 Extremes have tie-dye grafix on
    the bottoms.
    
    It's nice that a ski manufacturer would do it for us, though ... ;^)
    
    ... Bobbb
    

Definitely old hat. I've got dancing skeletons on my Kastles and dancin' bears 
on my Vokls.

Geoff

My "rock" skis (pun intended) have Aiko Aiko on the right ski and the "Do-dah
Man" on the left Ski...(cut out bumper stickers do have a way of getting pretty
trashed though) 

Glenn

    Yah,, the complete commercialization of our favorite band is pretty
    much old hat by this point.... It kind of smeels like #2 after a good
    wiff
    
    							/Bill
    

/, isn't it against the law to make yer co-werkers laugh so hard during werkin' 
hours? Stop it I say, stop it now, before I get accused of liking my job! :-)

RE: Olin...

	Pretty ironic coming from such a politically right-wing company. Kinda
reminds me (I don't know why, just feel like rambling today) of GE trying to
sell "enviromentally correct light bulbs": you know, the ones which are no
different than any other light bulb, except that they are 67 watts instead of
70, so the save you three watts, what a crock! 

Bet its gonna be years, though before they come out with ski boots all platered 
with T�ng stickers!


:-)

>Bet its gonna be years, though before they come out with ski boots all platered
>with T�ng stickers!


Mine already are!  8^)

Scott

Not if I can help it!!  BAH, HUMBUG!!  Where's a copyright lawyer
when you need one? ;-)

peace,
t!ng

    Ting 
    
    	Check out GDM.... they know all about lawyers and copyrights
    and and and and
    
    						/
    

My friend Cathy who trades autographs for living just got in an autographed (by
Jerry) copy of American Beauty. She'll be asking a pretty penny for it cause
she says Garcia autographs are very saleable (wonder why); something like $200.
It can be seen in her store: Hierlooms of History in Northboro. 

Also of interest, an autographed copy of "Steal This Book", by Abbie Hoffman, 
in which he scribes: "F*ck Worcester". Think I might grab that one myself. :-)

Fog

    so what's the quality of the album like, fog??? %^)
    
                                               rfb (like he can afford it!)

     Has she got a copy of steal this book by abby unsigned??
    				G-man

I picked up the Abbie book, its was pretty tattered, and no she has no more, 
signed or unsigned. 

The American Beauty Album looks like the original Warner release. Its in great
shape on the outside, but the orig sleeve is gone and the album itself has
scratches. Its signed in magic marker in the upper right hand corner. It would
definitely look grate in a frame. Cathy says the san fran collectors are 
getting $300 for Garcia signed albums, so she thinks its a grate deal at $200, 
but since I've never paid more than $20.00 for an album, I wouldn't know.

    Speaking of Abbie, Barnes & Noble in Nashua has a bunch of copies of
    "The Best of Abbie Hoffman" or something like that, only $3.98 for the
    hardcover.  It's in with the cheap books up front.  Mostly selections
    from his other books.
    
    Scott
    

    "The Best of Abbie Hoffman" is excerpts from "Revolution for the Hell
    of It," "Woodstock Nation," "Steal This Book," and essays and speeches
    that he made after he came out of hiding in 1979. One of the better
    articles near the end of the book was the article on how he started the
    Save the River committee in upstate New York in the 1970s. At the time
    he was using the name Barry Freed. During one of the committee's
    meetings someone in the audience said that Barry sounded just like the
    old Abbie Hoffman, which made Hoffman more than paranoid at the time.
    
    There are two other books by Hoffman available, "Soon to be a Major
    Motion Picture" about his life underground during the early 70s, and
    "Steal This Urine Test."
    
    Mike
    

    Well, I was looking for a sun visor for my car.  GDM doesn't sell them
    anymore.  :^(  I just called them.
    
    dave

    consider yer self lucky dave, last one I saw was around $30.00, i
    think.
          rfb

    yeah $30 is about right...  i had wanted one myself until i saw the
    price tag...  consideringthe one i have now with a mountain landscpae
    on it was only @$3, i think i'll keep it...
    
    						da ve

Reminds me, I'd like to get a spare tire cover for my jeep with some kind of 
dead logo on it.  I've seen one SYF and one of the goofy dude smashing an ice 
cream cone into his face on the road before, but never found out how to get 
such a thing.  Anyone have any idea where I might find one??

Scott

    
    Don't know how to get them but I saw a really really
    nice Wheel tire cover on a jeep once.  
    
    MJ

I saw a Jimmy (jeep-type thing, I forget the manuf.), and the guy painted "Row"
above the "Jimmy".

adam

        a wicked cool catalog.
    				Greatful Dead Merchandising, INC
    				P.O. Box  X
    				Novato,Ca 94948
    
    
    PS: Nice Jacket TOO!
    				G-Mon.

This sounds like a neat thing for us window-weenies. HEy Scott, if they indeed 
are doing a "compilation", you should defininitely send them the art for the v3 
shirt. We should send the vII art as well...

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From: [email protected] (Patrick Hester)
Subject: gRATeful Pads, Terrapin Icon
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 20:41:08 GMT

Hey Now!!

I recently posted to the net regarding the interest in Grateful
Dead mouse pads. Since then I've received about 80 responses, not
to mention a few responses posted to the net. Many of the people
who wrote said they'd like several pads.

I figured I'd just post back to the net rather than reply to each
person. After all, I can justify a post or two to my employers, but
not a hundred responses. So THANK YOU ALL for your response!!

Well based on the interest we are going to go ahead and put this
thing together! Here's what's up...

The original pad is a way too well known mixture of Aoxomoxoa and
skeletons and candles and mushrooms and... well, you get the idea.
Three of these (14"x20") pads exist and they will never be turned
into a commercial venture <---disclaimer, please note

Several netters warned about copywrite infringement problems. Yeah,
that's kind of scary and we don't need the hassle. A few asked about
what patterns we would use and if we could custom jobs. We decided
to throw this thing open to the world and go with ALL ORIGINAL art!

So here's the plan: We are going to collect artwork from any who
care to donate it. Of these we will mix and match with computer and
camera into one intense design. Or several, I dunno. The final item
will probably be a 10" square of extraordinary magnatude. Plus we're
gonna amass a killer pile of real cool pictures!

If you would like to contribute ORIGINAL artwork, drop me email and
we will work out the details. All artwork must be black and white
ONLY but may be as intricate as you like. The final design will not
just be painted onto the pad, but pressed in relief on the bottom
of a translucient pad. That's why only B&W. If you want to send us
multi colored stuff we will be glad to look at it but will be
unable to use it for pads. You'll also have to sign the art over
to us cause we don't want to get sued by a slew of netheads sometime
down the road (feelin bad)

I'll post more details when I have them.

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

On a slightly related note, are there any NeXTheads out there?
I've got a Terrapin Station home directory icon (open and closed)
for NeXT computers only. If you want a copy, drop me mail. Remember,
NeXT ONLY. If you don't have a NeXT, you won't even be able to read
the mail message so don't waste your computer's time.

Oh, and the icon's monochrome, so don't get your hopes up if
you have a turbocolorslab and/or NeXTDimension.


Patrick Hester   [email protected]   (212) 513-7777

8=====8   -<-<<-@   8===8   =8(\/\)   8====8

------------------------------

    Sorry but I don't sign the rights to my art away.  If they want to
    *use* my art, fine, but they want all rights to my art, therefore
    denying me the rights to use it.  Which would mean, legally, we
    couldn't make V3 shirts.  Plus they want originals, implying not
    photocopies.  I plan to keep the originals in case it's needed for a
    future printing of shirts.
    
    At least that's the way I interpret it.
    
    Scott
    

Whoa, sorry bout that.

Yeah, I agree with Scott!  There is no f*cking way I would sign my art
away.  That's a ludicrous expectation!

    I don't think they understand copyrights.  You could grant them
    permission to use your art, in writing, effectively granting them a 
    'license' (like we do with software).  That would make it safe for them
    to use it, without giving up your ownership of the work.  This is done
    all the time with everything from GDM stuff to Mickey Mouse (who is one
    of the tightest, yet one of the most pervasive)...
    
    Of course, this assumes that your work is copyrighted in the first
    place, which most personal art/prose/poetry/software is not.
    The owner of a trademark (tm),  registered trademark (r), or
    copyrighted material (c) can always grant permission to someone else to
    use it...with or without any royalties ($)... ;-)
    
    ...then again, it's probably not worth the effort of convincing them
    that it's ok to do that...they sound a little paranoid.  sigh.
    
    tim
    

>    Of course, this assumes that your work is copyrighted in the first
>    place, which most personal art/prose/poetry/software is not.

i think there are 2 levels of copyrighting something, which offer different
levels of protection; one does involve paying some small fee and registering
your work somewhere (library of congress, perhaps?), but i think that simply
by putting the � symbol and the year on your work does constitute a certain
level of copyright

anybody know for sure?

/rich

    Yup, the 1977 copyright laws say there's an implied copyright as long
    as it's signed and dated.  Then once you do this lower-level copyright
    you can register it with the copyright office.  This probably offers
    the owner a higher level of protection since the copyright office's
    word is better than yours.  Another method of copyrighting that has
    worked in courts is to send yourself a copy of the material by
    registered mail and leave it sealed.
    
    I'm not copyrighting my design since I borrowed many copyrighted Dead
    symbols.  Copyrighting this may cause some trouble.
    
    Scott
    

When I wrote my thesis, the 'Cornell University Guide to Thesis Writing'
said basically this:

If you write on the piece of work:
        - the copyright symbol-- a 'c' enclosed in a circle
        - the word 'Copyright' followed by the current year and
          your full legal name
        - and the words 'All Rights Reserved'
like:
        (c) Copyright 1992 by Jeffrey G. Maggard.  All Rights Reserved.
        
then you are entitled to protection level one under the copyright laws.
This law gives you and only you exclusive rights to your work.  In order for
someone else to use your work for a 'monetary gain,' they must first get
your 'expressed written consent.'  If they were to use your work for a
monetary gain without your permission, then you would be entitled to sue
for any lossed income on your part, and/or a reasonable amount of their
earnings (i.e. anything you could get out of them).  

Level one copyrights do not allow you to sue for punative damages (i.e. you
couldn't get millions from them because they were bad people and stole your
ideas).  For that you would have to file a formal copyright with the US 
Copyright office.  I believe the fee is $60.  I think the office is in DC, 
area code 202.

The best non-official Copyright is to send an identical copy of the original 
work to yourself by certified mail through the US postal service.  It would
probably be a good idea to write the copyright line on it while your at it!  

...I know I shoulda been a lawyer...


                        *** NOT! ***

- jeff

        - the copyright symbol-- a 'c' enclosed in a circle
like:
        (c) Copyright 1992 by Jeffrey G. Maggard.  All Rights Reserved.

in case ya didn't know, ya can type characters like these on a DEC terminal

this is how:

hold down the "Compose Character" key and hit the space bar
the "Compose" light should light up
now go for it
typing "c" then "o" will get you �
typing "1" then "2" will get you �
typing "1" then "4" will get you �
typing "^" then "1" will get you �
typing "^" then "2" will get you �
etc...

i would think that you should be able to get the trademark and registered
trademark symbols, but the combinations "t","m" and "r","o" just beep at me

/rich

RE:  Note 34.87 by ROCK::ROCK::FROMM

>        - the copyright symbol-- a 'c' enclosed in a circle
> like:
>        (c) Copyright 1992 by Jeffrey G. Maggard.  All Rights Reserved.
         ^^^

	It is my understanding that the c enclosed by two parantheses
	is *not* sufficient to declare a copyright.  It must be the
	� (letter c enclosed in a circle).

	Bob_who_from_time_to_time_considers_taking_up_law_as_a_profession

re        <<< Note 34.88 by GR8FUL::WHITE "Without love in a dream..." >>>
                          -< �, not (c) is required >-

>	It is my understanding that the c enclosed by two parantheses
>	is *not* sufficient to declare a copyright.  It must be the
>	� (letter c enclosed in a circle).


I seem to remember that the direction we got for the copyright statement
for developing software allowed "(c)" to be used like:


	Copyright (c) by Digital Equipment Corporation 1992.

this was not too long ago;

    Howdy, Bob White,
    
    I suspect JC's right - I've been programming for 15 years and that's
    how it's always been...I've always been pretty anal about making sure
    the copyright was there.  It has to be on the first page of the module,
    preferrably the first line, too.  It's only been in the latter half of
    that time that there was anything except "(c)" available on dumb vt
    keyboards...of course you have to include the word "Copyright" and
    the year of release on that line too, so the "(c)" is a bit
    superfluous.  (A 'bit' superfluous....arr arr. ;-)
    
    tim
    

re: the anal retentive copyright discussion that I started.

> >        - the copyright symbol-- a 'c' enclosed in a circle
> > like:
> >        (c) Copyright 1992 by Jeffrey G. Maggard.  All Rights Reserved.
>          ^^^

> 	It is my understanding that the c enclosed by two parantheses
> 	is *not* sufficient to declare a copyright.  It must be the
> 	� (letter c enclosed in a circle).
> 
> 	Bob_who_from_time_to_time_considers_taking_up_law_as_a_profession

Now, now Bob-the-lawman!  I used the word: "like" to indicate just that.

That's the problem with Lawyers, they can't read!

- jeff_who_nobody_ever_understands

 Was just talking to my not so cute brother who picked up the new video "Back
 Stage Pass" last night....best $20 he's ever spent, he says..







Jum

    re .92
    That's good to know.  I picked it up last week for my wife's b'day 
    (same as BobW's :-) but we haven't watched it yet!  We were a bit 
    busy last weekend.  Maybe this Friday.  Hannah might be into it 
    though, so maybe sooner. She likes "So Far" (and "Fantasia" ;-)
    
    PeterT
    

    Noteworthy has it for $14.75
    

>    <<< Note 34.92 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "To the bright side of the road" >>>
>>
>
>
> Was just talking to my not so cute brother who picked up the new video "Back
> Stage Pass" last night....best $20 he's ever spent, he says..
    
    I think I may have missed something.  What is "Back Stage Pass"
    comprised of?
    
    dave

>    I think I may have missed something.  What is "Back Stage Pass"
>   comprised of?

the adv. in noteworthy shows a picture of the video box:

	The new Grateful Dead Video

	"Backstage Pass"

	"Not just another music video
	and not a documentary"


	[ skully here ]

	hard to handle
	fearless groove
	the other one
	easy to love you
	she belongs to me
	infrared roses revisited.

  

 I picked it up last week...not bad.  Pretty good in fact, but rather disappoint
 ing in that its only 35 mins long.  But the stuff that is on there (if I 
 remember correctly) is quite good.





 Jum

    
    scenes from it were played on the screens at the summer
    shows....  looked like lots of candid footage of Cassidy,
    Pigpen, the Merry Pranksters...  certainly looked interesting
    to me!  Can't wait to get my copy!
    
    MJ

>the adv. in noteworthy shows a picture of the video box:

They have a new (fall, winter?) catalog out?  They haven't sent me one since 
the Spring '92 edition it took them 6 weeks to send me after I ordered it back 
in May.  I've made a few pretty good size orders since then, do they send new 
catalogs automatically or do I have to call an order on?

Scott

    
    They sent me the holiday edition automatically - and I've 
    never ordered from them.....yet.
    
    MJ

	I don't know Scott, I've call Noteworthy for a catalog twice,
	starting 6 weeks ago, and I have yet to receive one.  I was
	blaming USMAIL, but maybe it's Noteworthy...   

	When I was ordering regularly, I'd get new catalogs automatically.

	Ken

I think Noteworthy's policy is if you place an order you'll automatically get
the catalogue for the next quarter.  I wouldn't know though since it has been
a while since I've actually placed an order.

RE: .101

Ken, I think it's Noteworthy.  I actually ordered a catalog back around 
last Christmas and 3 months later had never received one.  I ordered another 
and about 5 or 6 weeks later received two of them and by that time it was May. 
I've made a few orders since and have not received any updates.  I just called 
this morning and they said I'd have one in 1-2 weeks, we'll see.

Scott

    
    Gee, I had the opposite response...  called for a catlog
    and rec'd it about a week later...  than rec'd another one
    (diff edition) about 3 weeks later.
    
    

Maybe they go in alphabetical order.  8^)

Scott

re        <<< Note 34.105 by MR4DEC::WENTZELL "Just a little sweetness" >>>
                                -< Always last >-

I have a friend and his last name is ZIMMER.... he was _always_ last when it
came to doing things alphabetically.

    Being first isn't always wonderful either.
    
    Scott
    

Well, I'll be the stick in the mud.

I bought it and was pretty disappointed.  The only musical performance on it
that is not available commercially in other medium is "She's an Artist", which
IS really nice.

While all the old video stuff is cute, I'd much rather see some more intact
footage of PigPen, Keith, Donna, Tom Constanten, etc.  I find the jumpiness
disconcerting...

The Infrared Roses computer generated stuff is ok, too.

Frankly, I'd have rather spent my $20.00 on a couple of CDs.

	~dave

	Where is the pigpen stuff from on Backstage pass ?  Is is
	from the Family Dog ?

	Ken

 Hard to tell (and handle :-)..it appears to be a collage of different showz..
 

 Now that I think about it Prob may be right..maybe I'll watch it again and
see how I feel about it...but $20 for 35 mins it is rather disappointing..At
the time me and DC picked it up we *had* to have it though :-)





Jum

I bought it.  Like Prob, I wish the Pigpen stuff was just plain "let me
see pigpen sing damnit and stop with all this eMpTV quick cuts shit."

But in any event, I bought it just for the acoustic "She Belongs To Me".
It's got Bob, Phil, and Jerry sitting on chairs playing it.  Bob and Jerry
trade off on the lyrics.  Ahhhh...Jerry doing acoustic Dylan -- my idea
of heaven!

tms

    I bought it, too, and was disappointed. The quick cuts in "Hard To
    Handle" are distracting and too fast. There are a couple of scenes
    where you can't tell who is in them! The one scene with the rocking
    chair looks like it may be Owlsley but even on pause I couldn't tell.
    
    It's nice to know that there is this type of old footage around in such
    good shape, though. Just wish they'd make entire clips available of it,
    dammit!
    
    The Egyptian stuff was real nice, and I would have enjoyed seeing more
    of this footage than the computer-generated graphics that close it.

    I got a book for my wife for Christmas. I forget the tital but it is a
    collection of photos by Linda McCartney with text about each.  It has
    just about any 60's rock band you can think of including our beloved
    band of choice. about 4 pages worth of the boys at their house in
    Height/Ashbury.  The cover has a picture of Jimi Hendrix.  Lots of 
    Beatle stuff (of course) also.  Picked it up at B Dalton.
    
    :-)
    Scott G

Hey now,

    Recently I was contacted by a friend of a friend in Indianapolis, who
    is marketing Grateful Dead mouse pads, and University Logo mousepads.
    These include both mousepads and wristrests (for the prevention of carpel
    tunnel syndrome).  I got the following information in the mail:


    Grateful Dead Mouse Pads for your computer.  For details on designs
    available send a #10 self-addressed stamped envelope to:

	    R&J Associates
	    1427 W. 86th St #184
	    Indianapolis, IN  46260


    I received photocopies of their Dead pads, which included a Skull&Roses
    mousepad, a Steal Your Face mousepad, dancing skeletons wristrest,
    a dancing bears desk set (pad, wristrest, 4 coasters).  I didn't see any
    prices listed, however.....

    Check it out if interested!

    Hogan

    PS: if you're in HLO and want to see it, I have the photocopy somewhere
        around my desk

    Sometime during the whirlwind daze that was the Boston run, I read
    about a place that sold Dead-style (skeletons, etc., no copyrighted
    images) checks.  Any know where to find them?
    
    Jamie

             <<< Note 34.115 by STUDIO::IDE "Time is generous." >>>
>    Sometime during the whirlwind daze that was the Boston run, I read
>    about a place that sold Dead-style (skeletons, etc., no copyrighted
>    images) checks.  Any know where to find them?
>    Jamie

Look in the dead-related magazine (relix, dupre's).  I think I've seen them
in there...
bob

    RE: .115
    Jamie
    wWe get our dead-style dchecks from the little company who makes
    distributes them .. in Milford, NH!  My daughter used to date one of
    the owners.  Their company name (no lie) : Rosencratz and Gildenstein
    call 800-354-4708.  John and I both got the dancing deadheads variety..
    they have many more choices.  they'll send you a brochure...give a call
    and tell 'em I sent you.
    
    carol

    Thanks, Carol.  My wife's choice was teddy bears, so I had to take
    matters into my own hands.  :-)
    
    Jamie

    re:: .114
    	
    	GDM is now offering mouse pads in their latest catalog. They might
    be done by this guy in Indianapolis ? GDM wants $8.00 for a pad, comes
    in two designs, and $13.00 for a pad with wrist rest, and comes in one
    design. There's color pictures of them in the catalog.
    
    TL

    RE: GDM is now offering mouse pads in their latest catalog
    
    	How does one get a copy of the GDM catalog? Does someone 
    	have a tele # or an address? Thanks in advance.....
    
    					Later,
    	 				    Jim

Just got in the mail a flyer/newspaper from GDM called
the Grateful Dead Almanac -- pretty cool!

they have a Yothu Yindi foundation t-shirt in here -- so here's the big
question -- Who the heck is Yothu Yindi and what happened to Rex?  ;^)  


And oooohh! - the Nicole Miller Silk Boxers look simply devine!  ;^)


glennnn :^)

    Me too, a nice touch from bills and assorted junk mail.

re: <<< Note 34.121 by ROADKL::INGALLS "may the four winds blow you home again" >>>

Yeah, I got one too.  Nice graphics, lots of, actually, it's mostly an ad
for GDM.

> they have a Yothu Yindi foundation t-shirt in here -- so here's the big
> question -- Who the heck is Yothu Yindi and what happened to Rex?  ;^)  

RTFM ;-)  The article on Weir describes meeting Yothu Yindi, an Australian
Aboriginal band mixing current sounds with traditional Aboriginal sounds.
I guess YY opened up for the dead in Oakland once.

/Ken

    I also recieved this in the mail this week.  Nice to see some of the 
    comments from the band on their favorite things of the year and 
    also the music they have been listening to lately.  I liked Bill's
    comment about scuba diving and running in to Henry Keizer (sp?) 
    underwater.  
    
    Also for the folks who have not gotten Dick's Pick's V1 it is 
    available for less than $15.  Good deal IMO.
    
    :-)
    Scott

Kaiser, I believe.  I got this one too.  Now, how many of you that 
got this, also ordered Dick's Pick?  I did, I did....  I believe
there might be a correlation...

Seeing as how I haven't gotten any GDM stuff in years...


PeterT

    
    
    I believe there's a definite correlation between ordering Dixpix 
    and recieving thier flyer. 
    
    Not too terrible prices on tee's... I ordered 2. Same shirts
    that were selling for ~30 bux at shows, 18-20 bux here.
    
    Steve-O

>    Not too terrible prices on tee's... I ordered 2. Same shirts
>    that were selling for ~30 bux at shows, 18-20 bux here.
 
that's probably because large venues apparently take a huge chunk of the
merchandise revenue, thereby causing the prices to be jacked up.  at least
this is according to the response i got from the person in charge of Phish
merchandise when i asked about why the prices at shows had recently risen so   
much.

- rich

          -< I wonder what type of mailing lists we're on now??  ;-) >-


I just got a "national parks something or other" solicitation that undoubtedly 
came directly from this mailing list...  good cause, but still....   :^/


glennnn

    i'd be REALLY surprised if you got on that mailing list through 
    the GD organization...  inthe past they have adamantly REFUSED to 
    release any lists to anyone due to respect for our privacy and 
    protection from potential misuse/abuse
    
    						da ve

There's only one other possibility to the mailing list theory - 
ticketbastard...

The thing is I've just moved to a new home with a new address and the only
things I've purchased commercially to be sent to this new address (as opposed
to a forwarding address) is Dicks Picks and Pheonix tix...

Glenn_who's_gonna give ticketbastard a call when he get's a chance...

My first thought about where the GD Almanac got my address was from
the old Golden Road list.  But who knows ?

/Ken

    I have never ordered Grateful Dead tickets through ticketmaster, yet I
    did order Dick's Picks.....and I recieved the GD Almanac as well as
    week...so I don't think it's ticketmaster that put us on the mailing
    list.  
    
    I believe that those of us that ordered Dick's Picks were put on
    the mailing list.  We ordered merchandise from Grateful Dead
    merchandise, so they sent us a catalog.  It's not like they put us on 
    a horrible mailing list...
    
    :), danielle 

    
>    I believe that those of us that ordered Dick's Picks were put on
>    the mailing list.  We ordered merchandise from Grateful Dead
>    merchandise, so they sent us a catalog.  It's not like they put us on 
>    a horrible mailing list...

I gotta agree!  I want to receive the GDM catalog etc...   and I think
it was ordering Dick's Picks that got me the catelog...  

It's the coincidence of also recieveing a National Parks solicitation that got
my feather's a little ruffled - this solicitation could have only come from
EITHER GDM or Ticketbastard - next hing y'know I'll be getting stuff from
greenpeace, Amnesty International, etc etc...  and it's this stuff I don't want
to keep getting  :^/ 

Glennnn

    
     A friend of mine got me a "Sierra Club" calender for christmas,
    I don't know if he put me on a list or not, but now I get all kinds
    of stuff like "save the trees", "save the farms", "save the blackbear",
    etc.etc......it never ends
    
    Sean

    It must be Dick's Pick's, that is the only time I ever did anything 
    through GDM.

BJ's has genuine Berkenstock Arizona's (two straps over foot) for $49.99

	Try Walmart!  They got these $16 jobbies that seem to hold
	out real well!  Good tread too!

    Dean'o
    you already sound like a thrifty college student you bargain hunter,
    you...........
    
    chris

     Does anyone know an address or catalog where you can get old concert
    T-shirts?? I need a highgate short.
    				G

    
	got an email from a friend of mine today that i thought might be of
    interest here...  (headers removed)
    
    					da ve
    
    
Subj:	Dead T's

Dave,
	Don't know if your interested but...I was in Building 19 last night
on Grafton St. and they have a bunch of Dead Tee shirts on sale there.

They claim that they are the real thing. They do have copy writes on them that
say GDM (think it's greatful dead mechandizing).  Most of them look like tour
shirts from the not too distant past. $12.99 lots of L and XL.

Saw 'em and thought of you...T

     over the weekend, some friends o' mine gave me a late birthday present
    of a bootleg video of the Boys from Germany 1981....It's a copy of a
    German TV show called Rock Palast....very blurry picture but the sound
    is pretty good.....also Jerry looks like a different guy and he and
    Phil are in each others current stage positions....they got the video
    at the Collector's show that was at the Bayside expo this past
    weekend....now I'm wondering when and why Jerry and Phil changed places
    on stage....anybody know...???
    
               :-) daveB

    I think it had something to do with when Phil went to the six string
    bass.  For subtle sonic reasons the Phil Zone just wasn't cutting 
    it when he was on Bob's left.  The addition of the two bass strings
    blended in this odd way with Bobs caterwauling and caused odd feelings
    of paranoia to everyone in the Phil Zone.  But they noticed that the
    effect was diminished whenever Phil moved closer to the center, and
    disappeared entirely when he stood behind or to Bob's right.
    So, rather than stand behind Bob the whole show, Jerry gave up being 
    Bob's right hand man and they took the position we are so familiar with 
    today. Oddly enough, though I certainly saw them earlier than
    this, I don't ever remember noticing the change.  Hmmm, I wonder 
    what that says about me???
    
    PeterT
     

    That you're still in the Phil Zone??? *;')

    Although I find PEterT's response much more believable, I heard that
    they changed places when they got a new keyboard player, a Brent
    Mydland, so that Brent could watch Jerry's fingers, and follow the jam
    better......
    
    

You found THAT believable????   Hey Jim, I have this bridge you
might be interested in...


PeterT

Didn't know what topic to to throw this note under but I guess here is as good
as anywhere else. :-)

I was looking thru the March issue of "Mountain Biking" and when I got
to the back cover I saw that Gary Fisher is coming out with a Grateful
Dead bike.

The ad reads:

"WHAT A LONG, STRANGE TRIP IT'S BEEN"

Twenty-one years to be exact. That's how long Gary Fisher's been in pursuit 
of the ever better mountain bike. Blazing the trail toward enlightment, 
it's no surprise he met other legends, like the Grateful Dead. Gary's latest 
design, the very limited edition Grateful Dead Hoo Koo E Koo, is a tribute 
to their mutual quest for greater feats, off the Golden Road.

The Hoo Koo E Koo features a TIG-welded, double-butted Gro-Moly frame USA 
built and backed with a lifetime warranty. Hand-picked goods like Rock 
Shox's Quadra 21 and faster, shorter rotating GripShift SRT-600 shifters 
keep you truckin' off road.

Visit your Fisher dealer to see the Dead bike, live. But do it fast. This 
is one Dead tour that wont last forever.

(there is a picture of the bike, and also a picture of Gary Fisher and the
caption under Gary Fisher is: "I collaborated with Prairie Prince, the 
Dead's Official artist, to design original "bone art" that any off-roading
DeadHead will dig")

btw..
I havent seen this in the bike shop yet, but I believe the normal Hoo Koo E
Koo is $780 (according to bike mags) so I expect this model to be slightly more.
    

    skis, bikes, shirts, mousepads....
    when is VW coming out with the official Grateful Dead tour machine???
    
    we really ARE everywhere....
    
    

    ties, watches, hotel rooms...
    

    
    
    re: -2
    
    Chris,
    
    It's not a matter of "we're everywhere." It's a matter of,
    "Gee, if we put a picture of POWER RANGERS on a snotty Kleenex,
    people will buy it!"
    
    Simple, child appeal marketing. Works BIGTIME. On deadheads, too.
    
    
    Steve-O
    

    I saw a pair of Grateful Dead skis at Killington this past weekend....
    they weren't really that impressive to me, not worth the extra $$$

    re:.146
    
    I stopped down to a bike shop today that sells Gary Fisher bikes.
    
    They didnt have any Grateful Dead Hoo Koo E Koo models in yet.
    
    I asked how much more they would be from the "standard" model of
    the Hoo Koo E Koo and the guy said it would be about $150. more.
    I guess they are a limited edition and about 1500 of them will be produced.
    
    All I can say is you sure can buy a whole lot of G.D. stickers for your bike
    for $150.!!! :-)
    
    
    

Though I am a big fan of the Dead, put names on boats that come directly 
from lyrics or set lists, I don't need to buy a Gary Fisher bike because it's
got a Dead theme. 
	Robyn and I went shopping for her bike last summer or sping. We saw the
Gary Fisher offerings in several places and the prices appeared low. But what
I kept seeing on Gary Fisher bikes was high end finishing components before 
upgrading the more basic components. We saw front suspension systems on bikes 
with low end gear sets. I really got a negative opinion of Gary Fishe rbikes and 
wouldn't be inclined to buy one. 
	I do however like Fisher skis, but it ain't the same Fisher. I can't 
remember skiing on Olin skis, which have the Dead icons on them, but I'm not 
running to try them. 
	Now if there's an offering of a tie-dyed spinnaker, and we can afford 
it, you might see one on our boat. Now Neil Pryde sails are not in the high 
price range and I've seen them win races. Hmm, have to watch how those sails 
hold up and watch for the Dead to appear there. 

	Actually we have a Neil Pryde Dacron cruising genny. 

	I'll bet there's a Fishe rthat makes sails
	Geoff

>    I asked how much more they would be from the "standard" model of
>    the Hoo Koo E Koo and the guy said it would be about $150. more.

seems pretty silly for me.  for $150, you could do something a bit more
worthwhile to a bike than decorating it.  i think the stealie on my mtn bike
probably only set me back about $1.

- rich

    There is a shop in "The Garage" (a small indoor mall in Harvard Square
    in Cambridge, MA) called Cool Beans.  They sell a lot of Dead and
    Dead-like merchandise.  They are going to open a new store in the same
    mall and are calling it "Promised Land."  This new store is going to
    sell Grateful Dead merchandise exclusively and is scheduled to open
    August 1st, when I guess there will be a special grand opening sale to
    commemorate somebody's birthday.  Some musician I think!
    
    
    
    - Bob
    
    

	does anyone know where I could get a set of mallahs - Buddhist
	"prayer beads" - besides Cambridge!  I'm really wondering if
	there is anyplace here in NH?  Or, does anyone have a phone
	number for Dharma Crafts (I believe that's the name of the
	catalog)...

	Debess

    Debess-
    	I buy my mala (sp?) beads at the Kripalu Yoga Center in Lenox, MA.
    (in Western MA, close to October Mt.)  It isn't close to NH, though.
    I don't have their # offhand, but I'll bring it in tomorrow...
    
    /danielle
                                                              

>    (in Western MA, close to October Mt.)  It isn't close to NH, though.
			      ^^^^^^^

Now _that_ sounds like Debess's kinda mountain!!!

  Josh

    
    October mountain is a real nice place.  So nice in fact, that around
    6/1/96 I will be the proud owner of 10 wooded acres that abut the north 
    side of October Mtn State Forest.  My access road is not maintained,
    there is no electricity nor is there water/sewer.  Just the way it
    was meant to be I do believe.
    
    It was named October Mountain for obvious reasons seeing the majority
    of it's growth is hardwood.

	thanks danielle...

	October Mtn!  Hah!  Meant to be, I guess!  To bring it all full-
	circle - I am trying to replace a set that was stolen from my
	friend's car that was parked in the road at my house for
	Oktoberfest...

	Debess

	Kripalu can be reached at 1-800-967-3577

>          <<< Note 34.158 by DELNI::DSMITH "How does that song go?" >>>
    
>    October mountain is a real nice place.  So nice in fact, that around
>    6/1/96 I will be the proud owner of 10 wooded acres that abut the north 
>    side of October Mtn State Forest.  My access road is not maintained,


	hey - great news deane-o - sounds like a perfect spot for a 
	DEChead_camping_trip (tm)

	Debess

<<< Note 34.159 by STAR::ECOMAN::DEBESS "there must be some way out of here" >

>        I am trying to replace a set that was stolen from my
>	friend's car that was parked in the road at my house for
>	Oktoberfest...

Huh?  In Lyndeborough?  In the woods?  

weird....too bad...
sorry to hear that happened...
bob

    	Debess,
    
    You can find nice Mala beads at the Mustard Seed, in Portsmouth. Give
    'em a call before making the trip, to make sure they have the kind you
    want in stock (small hand-held, or 108-bead necklace style...) Their
    Phone # is 431-7333.
    
      Dharmacrafts should be at 617-492-4739 (that #'s a couple years old).
    
      And finally, there's a really nice Yoga retreat in Colorado which has
    a small giftshop & carries malas, if nothing else works out. Shoshoni,
    at 303-642-0116.
    
    		Happy mala-hunting....
    
    -chuck

    RE: .158  Yo DeanO .. I do believe you just signed up
    for a camp-a-ree.  sounds like a slice of heaven for you.
    
    

    My order from GDM included a free Grateful Dead 1996 calendar.
    
    I already have one, so the extra is free to anybody who can pick it up 
    in ZKO, or can arrange a suitably convenient bier stop...
    
    /bruce

    I'll buy ya a beer at Bandito's here in Colorado Springs! something
    like 10 local micro-brews on tap! How's zat for an offer!?  %^)
    
    maybe i'll order one instead....%^)
    
    rfb

    send me yer address, and I'll mail ya the calendar!
    
    /b

    Bruce,
    you really don't haveta, I'm sure a local head could benifit from yer
    offer...i need to do an order anyway. But thanks!
    
    rfb

    "Join Grateful Dead Hour host David Gans as he plays rare and different
    tunes to celebrate the 30 years retrospective  featuring the graphic
    art inspired by the music of the Grateful Dead."
    Art of the Dead.....Saturday May 17th 12-9pm, Sunday May 18th 12-6 pm
    
    
    Lionheart Gallery 331B Newbury Street Boston Ma 02115
    for more info call 617-236-0806.......potions of the proceeds go to
    benefit the Children's Hospital Council.....

    
    Sounds like fun!