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Conference humane::scheduler

Title:SCHEDULER
Notice:Welcome to the Scheduler Conference on node HUMANEril
Moderator:RUMOR::FALEK
Created:Sat Mar 20 1993
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1240
Total number of notes:5017

1090.0. "Server/Agent OpenVMS questions" by IJSAPL::PEURSUM (Systems Specialist, EIS Holland) Tue May 07 1996 05:12

Hi,

I have some questions regarding POLYCENTER Scheduler V2.1B on OpenVMS,
whan used as Server and/or Agent.

Customer situation :
- lots of stand-alone OpenVMS systems, with Scheduler server installed
- most of them still use older versions, like V2.1A or V2.0A
- they have NAS licenses for all systems, so they can and will use UCX

The customer uses Scheduler now as servers, and synchronise jobs by 
using remote dependencies. They want to move to a situation where one
OpenVMS Cluster (VAX) will be the Scheduler server, and all the others 
are able to act as agents..

Since they allready have scheduler installed, and are in the posession 
of Scheduler server licenses, we have some questions regarding the move
from server-servers to server-agents.

Questions:
- Can you install Scheduler Agent on a system that allready was running
  Scheduler Server ? 
	* will it delete the 'old' server images, or
	* is it advised to use another directory for installation
- If we 'misuse' a scheduler server to act as an agent, 
	* will it need TCP/IP for communication, or can it still use
	  DECnet ?
	* will the 'server-acting-as-an-agent' have the functionality
	  that a real agent misses, like pre- and post-processing ?
- Can someone inform me what the latest version of the Scheduler Agent 
  for Digital UNIX is, which can be used with Scheduler Server for OpenVMS 
  V2.1B-9 ?


Regards,
Paul.
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1090.1some answersIJSAPL::PEURSUMSystems Specialist, EIS HollandWed May 08 1996 10:1946
    
    Hello,
    
    Let me answer some of my own questions.. I've tried some things at the
    customer site, and this is what was discovered :
    
>>- Can you install Scheduler Agent on a system that allready was running
>>  Scheduler Server ? 
>>	* will it delete the 'old' server images, or
>>	* is it advised to use another directory for installation
    
    	You can install Scheduler Agent on a system along-side Scheduler
    	server. They can be active at the same time, and can make use of
    	the same license.... (probably not allowed to both use one
    	DECSCHEDULER license, but it works..
        Scheduler installs all its stuff in SYS$SYSTEM/SYS$STARTUP etc.,
    	not in NSCHED$..
    
>>- If we 'misuse' a scheduler server to act as an agent, 
>>	* will it need TCP/IP for communication, or can it still use
>>	  DECnet ?
>>	* will the 'server-acting-as-an-agent' have the functionality
>>	  that a real agent misses, like pre- and post-processing ?
    
    	A server CANNOT act as an agent ! At least, i don't get it working.
    	With 'agent' i mean running a job from a server on a remote system,
    	where the job is administered on the server, and there is no job
    	info on the node where the command/job is run.
    	
        If i create a job on a server to execute on a remote system, i
    	specify "<user>@<remote-node>. When i run the job i get the 
    	following message :
    Running job  100  on remote node BVGAXP...
    545285006: final error on connect to socket 3
    545285006: send failed
    SEND_REMOTE_RUN failed, status :  211192530
    
    %NSCHED-E-EXEBADRECV, failed to receive confirmation from executor node
       Remote Node=<BVGAXP>  Remote User=<DEC_BEHEER>
    
    
	So, is it true that a server cannot be an agent at the same time ?
    
    
    Regards,
    Paul.
1090.2SERVER/AGENT OPENVMSGLRMAI::BHATIAFri May 17 1996 15:3551
Paul,

My response is preceeded by// below.

Raminder Bhatia          

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Hi,

I have some questions regarding POLYCENTER Scheduler V2.1B on OpenVMS,
whan used as Server and/or Agent.

Customer situation :
- lots of stand-alone OpenVMS systems, with Scheduler server installed
- most of them still use older versions, like V2.1A or V2.0A
- they have NAS licenses for all systems, so they can and will use UCX

The customer uses Scheduler now as servers, and synchronise jobs by 
using remote dependencies. They want to move to a situation where one
OpenVMS Cluster (VAX) will be the Scheduler server, and all the others 
are able to act as agents..

Since they allready have scheduler installed, and are in the posession 
of Scheduler server licenses, we have some questions regarding the move
from server-servers to server-agents.

Questions:
- Can you install Scheduler Agent on a system that allready was running
  Scheduler Server ? 
//YES. THE AGENT LICENSE IS PART OF THE SERVER LICENSE AS LONG AS IT IS ON THE
//SAME SYSTEM.
	* will it delete the 'old' server images, or
	//NO.
	* is it advised to use another directory for installation
	//NOT NECESSARY. THE AGENT GETS INSTALLED UNDER A DIFFERENT DIRECTORY.
- If we 'misuse' a scheduler server to act as an agent, 
	* will it need TCP/IP for communication, or can it still use
	  DECnet ?
	//COMMUNICATION BETWEEN A SERVER AND AN AGENT IS THROUGH TCP/IP (UCX).
	* will the 'server-acting-as-an-agent' have the functionality
	  that a real agent misses, like pre- and post-processing ?
	//THE AGENTS DO NOT HAVE PRE OR POST PROCESSING FUNCTIONS. MY
	//SUGGESTION IS THAT SINCE YOU ALREADY HAVE SERVER LICENSES, WHY NOT
	//USE THOSE TO PERFORM PRE AND POST FUNCTIONS.
- Can someone inform me what the latest version of the Scheduler Agent 
  for Digital UNIX is, which can be used with Scheduler Server for OpenVMS 
  V2.1B-9 ?
  //IT IS V2.1B-1.

Regards,
Raminder Bhatia