Conference mr1pst::music

    I'll give you Stairway to Heaven, and Dream On...but Hey Jude???
    
    umm, what DO you like?  :)
    
    I side with you about songs that are shoved down yer throat by radio...
    my tape player gets more use than my radio, so I can't complain about
    radio too much...

I didn't say I didn't like ANY of them.  I like Hey Jude, but it's nowhere
near my favorite Beatles' tune.

    
    	I just heard "Dream On" this morning.  I popped a CD in and my
    	troubles were over.  8^)
    
    	This is exactly why I hardly ever listen to the radio ... if I
    	want to listen to a "rotation" I'll create it myself.
    
    	And "The Boys of Summer" is by Don Henley, from The Eagles.
    

    house of the rising sun

    If I hear "Proud Mary", or that song about some dude being a bullfrog, 
    I'll SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    Hey, is that an unused air sickness bag you have there?

    
    
    How about every song from the last Metallica CD!
    
    Oh and shoot that frickin Layla from Unplugged and put it out of
    misery!
    
    That latest one from Seal, I think from the Batman soundtrack.

    
    	Three Dog Night has some great stuff, though.  I'll admit that
    	I've heard "Joy to the World" quite often, but it's been awhile
    	and I wouldn't mind hearing it again.
    

>    Oh and shoot that frickin Layla from Unplugged and put it out of
>    misery!

Isn't that a piece of work?  People gobble that crap up, though.
    
-SB

    >  Oh and shoot that frickin Layla from Unplugged and put it out of
    >  misery!
    
    Good friend... know that you are NOT alone!!!!
    
    	db

>    >  Oh and shoot that frickin Layla from Unplugged and put it out of
>    >  misery!
>    
>    Good friend... know that you are NOT alone!!!!
    
I'm not wild about the Unplugged (tm) Layla, but I *really* hate the original 
one, especially the end part!  A bunch of senseless guitar noodling that goes 
nowhere!

I'll go don my asbestos suit now...

-Hal

    
    	The thing I hate about the original is the piano/keyboard noodling.
    

    re: senseless noodling...
    
    I always thought so too... that the song started out really great, got
    a little worse when the signature riff came in, was in deep trouble
    once the singing started, and then completely went down the drain at
    the end. 

    
    How could the guy who did "The Core" have so little else of worth?
    
    - Sean

re: .12
    
>    	The thing I hate about the original is the piano/keyboard noodling.
    
Yes, that's the part I'm talking about, but really most of the "noodling"
is being done by too many guitars.  Keyboard wise, I think there's only
one piano in that section.  I might be wrong, though.  It's been quite a
few years since I last listened to it.

-Hal

    Gee, the piano part is the ONLY thing I liked about the original.
    
    And it's absence is one more reason why I hated the "Lamela" unplugged
    version.
    
    However... having said that... it's a great piano riff, but it goes on
    for WAY too long.

    
    Yes, I'll add in my $.02 about the ending of Layla; I agree totally 
    with Hal about too many guitars. The really high register playing 
    really grates on my ears.  There's certainly no statements being
    made by the players during the whole extended ending.
      
     jmo, Larry

Well, actually, I'm starting to show my age... but re:
Layla, yea it's tired in 1995, but how many of us were
around when it first came out???  I was, back then
we thought it was the greatest....  hey, we were young,
and noodling was still cool, now, some 20+ years later, ya
it's tired...

And how bout some of them Skynnard tunes that keep
getting rehacked by the local(s) ..(as in top-40 bands) ?

Eiiiee!!!!   If i ever have to hear, or play:

	The Breeze
	Gimme Three Steps
	I know a little..

I'll puke...


--peace..

/pelkey

    
    I was around back then; I had the Derek & The Dominoes album. Gave it
    a few listens to, and it collected dust afterwards.  Eric C. and 
    Duane A. were imho much more "listenable to" in their own ventures 
    outside of Derek & The Dominoes.  Too much excess on the D&TD album.
    
     Lv

re: .18

>Well, actually, I'm starting to show my age... but re:
>Layla, yea it's tired in 1995, but how many of us were
>around when it first came out???  

Today's my 42nd birthday.  I certainly remember when it came out. :-)

-Hal

    
    	Happy birthday, Hal.
    
    	And Ray, have you ever asked "What song is it that you want to
    	hear?" at a show?
    
    	8^)
    

re: 21..

yea,,,  the answer usually comes back,, 

		'freebird'

I only asked once too....

:^)

    
    Hotel California

    
    Paradise By The Dashboard Light or whatever it is by MeatLoaf

    
    	Now I'm gonna be whistling that all day.
    
    	Thanks, Larry.  8^)
    

    Cats_in_The_Cradle.

    
    Just about anything by anyone who died in a plane crash or a
    drug overdose, the two most common ways of culling the herd
    in Rock music.
    
    -b

>  Hotel California


I knew I forgot one, one of the sleepiest, too.

Live music is a whole other world of tired tunes.  I think the king
of the snoozers in that arena has to be "Mustang Sally."

I hear that and it's time to leave.  I'll go to the nearest Polish American
club and listen to polka music before I'll sit through that.  I think that
song just sucked to begin with, then got played to death.

-S

    "Signs"  - I hate that song. I hear it too often. Usually on other
    peoples radios.
    
    

    Anything by Kenny G!!
    

>    Anything by Kenny G!!

I see and hear this name pop up all the time.  Who is he?  By what song(s)
might I recognize him.  Seems to be as popular as Sonny and Cher.

    
    	He's a saxophonist.  You've probably heard "Songbird" and didn't
    	even realize it.
    
    	As far as I know he only does instrumentals.
    

-.1 - Thanks.

I just read a blurb in today's paper, taken from the wire services, that
Kenny G's house caught fire and it took 50 firefighters and a lot of something
else to kill the fire.  Then the story explained that he's a New Age
saxaphonist.  

The only so-called new age I've ever liked is George Winston.  I'm not sure
what Kenny G's "Songbird" sounds like.

-S

Since I play in a wedding/cover band, I can list a number of them that 
I would never like to hear again:

1. Unchained Melody. I want to puke when we play this song.

2. Mustang Sally. Steve's right. It's overdone.

3. Old Time Rock 'n' Roll. Segar. Enough said.

4. Taking Care of Business. Ditto.

5. What I like About You. Yuck!

6. Get Down Tonight. KC and the Sunshine Band. Left over disco crap.

7. and the absolute worst: The Electric Slide or Electric Boogie.

I've always been amazed at every wedding and every party
we've played, how many people (women especially) know how
to dance the Electric Slide.

JK

    I know some people love to dance to that Electric slide but it
    makes me cringe. When I detect the first note I head outside for
    a walk. The "Lemmings Crawl" is a more apt name for it.
    
    Jim C.
    
    

Say, what is theese Electreec Sliide?  

I don't recognize it by name.  Is it as bad as say, A-B-C, 1-2-3, from
Michael Jackson's pre-hair-burning days?  Is it worse?

Inquiring minds HAVE to know.

-S

    
    	You've seen it done if you've been to a wedding in the last
    	10 years, believe me.
    
    	All the females get up and do a dance that's similar to "The
    	Hustle" to the untrained eye.
    

    Mexican radio has some little differences with the US,
    is imposible being tired of hearing "Boys of summer" 
    	because no radio station plays it now!
    
    My votes are for:
    
    
    
    
     Dust in the wind - Kansas
     Hotel California
     Anything from Meatloaf
     I will always love you
     Kiss from a rose
    Piano man
    

RE .38>  I think you've about captured the essence of this topic, and
I think you have a fine ear for the truly over-played.

They sit at the bar,
And put bread in my jar,
and say man get the F*** outta here!!!!!

Rebel Rebel, a source of distress - Bowie
Young Americans - Bowie
Ch Ch Change, or whatever it's called - Bowie

Don't forget to include

Wind Beneath My Wings and just
about anything else Bette Midler
gets her hands on.

    "Blinded By The Light"

> "Blinded By The Light"

Yes, especially the remake by whoever that stinkin circus-music band was,
I think Manfred Mann.  Jeeeeezusss.  Like running my front teeth over a
blackboard.

-S

    
    	I think they wrote it, didn't they?
    
    	Or was that the one the Springsteen wrote, but didn't record until
    	after Manfred Mann recorded it?
    
    	Either way, I like that version.
    

    Springsteen wrote and recorded it, long before MM.  It's on his first
    disc, "Greetings From Asbury Park".  IMO, there's nothing wrong with
    the Bruce version of this tune.
    

    The Manfred Mann version omits about 2/3's of the words.
    
    That was Bruce's "stream of consciousness" phase of bizarre (but
    in a good way) lyrics.
    
    About the best thing I can say about Manfred Mann's version of the
    song is that it makes the MM version of "Spirits in the Night"
    seem not so bad.
    
    Jim

-.1>    About the best thing I can say about Manfred Mann's version of the
-.1>        song is that it makes the MM version of "Spirits in the Night"
-.1>        seem not so bad.
    
    And Spirits... sounds even better when compared with MM's version of 
    "The Mighty Quinn", originally written and performed by Bob Dylan...
    but I think the Hollies did it best.
    
    MM is purely bubble gum (imho)
    
    STEVE
    

    Actually, after additional thought, I think MM's other Springsteen
    debacle/cover was "For You" (also off of Greetings from Asbury Park).
    A worse cover of a better song than "Blinded...", I must have
    tried to block the memory.
    
    I believe the Greg Kihn band was responsible for the "Spirits" cover.
    
    Anyway, let's just retire the entire MM discography.
    
    Jim

"One of These Nights" Eagles. 

re: .49

> "One of These Nights" Eagles. 

Which of course brings to mind "Lying Eyes", possibly the longest, most
tedious song in the history of pop music (although it gets serious
competition from "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald").

-Hal

    
    	A guy used to do a "singing comedian" show where I play pool, and
    	1 of the songs he did was "The Rectum of Ella Fitzgerald".
    

re: .51
    
>    	A guy used to do a "singing comedian" show where I play pool, and
>    	1 of the songs he did was "The Rectum of Ella Fitzgerald".
    
Ooh, that's pretty sick even by *my* standards! :-)

-Hal

    As long as we're picking on the Eagles (whom I have TREMENDOUS respect
    for), I'd like to add my vote.
    
    	"Take It Easy"
    
    I now go into cringe-mode when I hear that.  For one thing, the
    singing on it is so bad that it almost reminds me of Neil Young,
    the father not only of "Grunge" but of "Cringe" as well.
    
    I like the Eagles most when they decided they stopped trying to ride
    the coat-tails of all those other Southern Rock bands and started
    righting serious music.

    
    	"The Long Run" would very probably be on my list of top 10 albums
    	of all time.
    

    "Ride Captain Ride(Upon your Mystery_Ship)"..
    From The 70's. What band Does That??  
    
    
       Crazy_Blue...Some_Thang_Al??

re: .53

>    As long as we're picking on the Eagles (whom I have TREMENDOUS respect
>    for), I'd like to add my vote.
>    
>    	"Take It Easy"
    
For an interesting change of pace, check out Jackson Browne's version
on his "For Everyman" album.  A very nice version with a more laid-back
attitude and wonderful pedal steel work by Sneaky Pete Kleinow and guitar
work by David Lindley.  I much prefer it to the Eagles version, although
I admit that that might be because I've heard the Eagles' version 60
gazillion times. :-)

>    I like the Eagles most when they decided they stopped trying to ride
>    the coat-tails of all those other Southern Rock bands and started
>    righting serious music.
        ^
	|
They must have been the only ones that noticed that serious music had
fallen over! :-)

Seriously, though, I'm curious as to what you meant by that statement.
I never thought the Eagles sounded like the southern rock bands, at least
not like what *I* think of as southern rock.  Perhaps you meant country
rock bands, which I don't think of as southern rock.  For example, I 
personally don't consider Lynnrd Skynrd (sp?) or Molly Hatchet to be
country rock, but I do consider them southern rock.  I would consider
country rock to be more along the lines of the Flying Burrito Brothers
or Commander Cody, among others.

Could you give some examples of Eagles work that fall before and after
this demarcation?  And perhaps some examples of southern rock bands whose
coattails they were riding?

-Hal

    
    Man...
    
    Ragging on the Eagles is warranted.
    
    But trashing "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" is blasphemy!!!!
    
    - Sean

    
    
     Re: Ride Captain Ride
    
      If I remember, I think Blues Image did this song..........
    
                                                               mike
    

    
    	Yes, it was Blues Image.
    

    Blood Sweat and Tears covered it (and I'm sure they weren't the
    only ones).
    
    Re: the Eagles and Southern Rock
    
    No, there's no way I'd confuse them with any of the bands normally
    associated with "Southern Rock" (Lynryrd Skynyrd, Molly Hatchett, the
    Outlaws, etc.). They're more in the mould of country rock bands like
    the Flying Burrito Bros. (though, IMO, the Eagles don't deserve to be
    mentioned in the same breath...too poppy by half!).
    
    One of my fave moments from any live album is Southside Johnny & the
    Asbury Jukes' "Reach Up and Touch the Sky" when Johnny announces that
    they're going to do a relaxed, West Coast-style show ("get your
    headphones on"!), and the guitarist plays of "Take It Easy". Johnny
    cuts him short ("Forget it!") and the band go into one of their own
    songs!
    
    Hey, on the subject of tired (nay, sleep-inducing) tunes, what about
    "Desperado"?
    
    Dom