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| 638.1 | Grammy winners of 1969 | SLOHAN::FIELDS | Strange Brew | Thu May 12 1994 09:49 | 9 | 
|  |     heres a start,
    
    a few songs/LPs that won Grammys in 1969
    
    Record of the year;	5th Dimension/Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In
    Album of the year;	Blood Sweat & Tears/Blood Sweat & Tears
    Song of the year;	Joe South/Games People Play
    Best Male Vocal;	Harry Nilsson/Everybody's Talkin'
    Best Female Vocal;	Peggy Lee/Is That All There Is?
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| 638.2 |  | CADSYS::FENNELL | Farewell Ayrton | Thu May 12 1994 09:53 | 1 | 
|  | Whole Lotta Love
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| 638.3 | Of course... | NACAD2::HERTZBERG | History: Love it or Leave it! | Thu May 12 1994 10:12 | 2 | 
|  |     Abbey Road
    
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| 638.4 |  | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Thu May 12 1994 10:13 | 7 | 
|  | 1969:
    
Best single hands down IMHO:  All Along the Watchtower, J. Hendrix
Best album hands down IMHO:   Electric Ladyland,        J. Hendrix
Best way-too-short track was also from Electric Ladyland: Crosstown Traffic
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| 638.5 |  | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Thu May 12 1994 10:14 | 1 | 
|  | I thought Abbey Road was more like 1970, no? Close enough I guess.
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| 638.6 | Abbey Road was indeed '69. | SMURF::STRANGE | Steve Strange - USG | Thu May 12 1994 11:34 | 4 | 
|  |     Abbey Road came out in late '69.  Let It Be was released in '70, which
    was of course their last album.
    
    	Steve
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| 638.7 |  | MAYES::OSTIGUY |  | Thu May 12 1994 11:57 | 2 | 
|  |     Hot Fun in the Summertime...Sly and the Family Stone 
    Good Morning Starshine   ????????
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| 638.8 | Some machine's don' that for you... | RNDHSE::WALL | Show me, don't tell me | Thu May 12 1994 12:40 | 4 | 
|  |     
    Didn't Zager and Evans score w/ "In the Year 2525" in '69?
    
    DFW
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| 638.9 | Woodstock | INDEV1::SMITH | I need two of everything... | Thu May 12 1994 13:33 | 3 | 
|  |     
    	Play the Woodstock album..
    
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| 638.10 |  | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Thu May 12 1994 14:12 | 3 | 
|  | >    Hot Fun in the Summertime...Sly and the Family Stone 
    There's one of the best "summer songs" of all time.
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| 638.11 |  | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Thu May 12 1994 14:14 | 5 | 
|  | >    Abbey Road came out in late '69.
    Guess it was cuz I spent most of '70 listening to it. I still have a
    religious experience just before and during The End.
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| 638.12 | Zager & Evans | COMET::LEVETT |  | Thu May 12 1994 14:15 | 1 | 
|  |     In the year 2525 - Zager & Evans
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| 638.13 | Rhino? | AWATS::WESTERVELT |  | Thu May 12 1994 15:10 | 3 | 
|  | 
	Doesn't Rhino or somebody have a series of pop hits albums
	year-by-year for that period?   
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| 638.15 | is 1969 OK, all across the USA | WBC::DEADY | it takes courage to enjoy it... Bj�rk | Thu May 12 1994 16:53 | 7 | 
|  |     re. .13
    		I've got the "Best of years" series, I'll post the
    contents when I get home tonight.
    
    
    	cheers,
    		fred deady
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| 638.16 | Is 1969 OK, all across the USA... | WBC::DEADY | it takes courage to enjoy it... Bj�rk | Thu May 12 1994 19:44 | 30 | 
|  |     From Time Life's "Classic Rock" 1969: The Beat Goes On
    
    She Came In Through The Bathroom Window		Joe Cocker
    Games People Play					Joe South
    Take A Letter Maria					R. B. Greaves
    Sugar, Sugar			The Archies
    Polk Salad Annie			Tony Joe White
    My Whole World Ended		David Ruffin
    I Want To Take You Higher		Sly and the Family Stone
    Spinning Wheel			Blood Sweat and Tears
    Sweet Cherry Wine			Tommy James and the Shondells
    Time Is Tight			Booket T. and the MG's
    Everybody's Talkin			Harry Nilsson
    In The Year 2525			Zager and Evans
    Run Away Child, Running Wild	The Temptations
    I Got a Line on You			Spirit
    Going Up the Country		Canned Heat
    Backfield in Motion			Mel and Tim
    Israelites				Desmond Dekker and the Aces
    Rock Me 				Steppenwolf
    Too Busy Thinking about My Baby	Marvin Gaye
    Jam Up Jelly Tight			Tommy Roe
    Can I Change My Mind		Tyrone Davis
    Oh Happy Day			The Edwin Hawkins Singers
    
    Man, what a blast from the past! Of course I was much too young to
    remember these songs  ;^)) .
    Bonus points to anyone who can name the group and song referenced
    in my title. , -youp   
                 
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| 638.17 | Followed by "Fun House" -- previous | WBC::DEADY | it takes courage to enjoy it... Bj�rk | Thu May 12 1994 20:36 | 32 | 
|  |     From Time Life's "Classic Rock" 1969 (Volume I)
    
    I want You Back			The Jackson Five
    Venus				Shocking Blue
    Hot Fun in the Summertime		Sly and the Family Stone
    I'm Gonna Make You Love Me		Diana Ross and the Supremes and
    						the Temptations
    You Showed Me			The Turtles
    Oh, What a Night			The Dells
    Get Together			The Youngbloods
    Build Me Up Buttercup		The Foundations
    I Can't Get Next to You		The Temptations
    No Time				The Guess Who
    One					Three Dog Night
    Time of the Season			The Zombies
    Let's Work Together			Wilbert Harrison
    Dizzy				Tommy Roe
    Soul Deep				The Box Tops
    What Does It Take			Junior Walker and the All Stars
    Baby, Baby Don't Cry		Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
    Hawaii Five-O			The Ventures
    Crystal Blue Persuasion		Tommy James and the Shondells
    Only the Strong Survive		Jerry Butler
    Put a Little Love in Your Heart	Jackie DeShannon
    Mendocino				The Sir Douglas Quintet
    Hey There Lonely Girl		Eddie Holman
    
    I'm sure there are many others from the Beach Boys, Doors, Eric
    Burden(sp) and the Animals, Rascals, etc... it brings a tear to my
    eyes... 
    
     v
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| 638.18 |  | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Thu May 12 1994 22:10 | 9 | 
|  | >    Games People Play			Joe South
>    Polk Salad Annie			Tony Joe White
>    I Want To Take You Higher		Sly and the Family Stone
>    Time Is Tight			Booket T. and the MG's
    Good ones! Wasn't  Livin' in the USA" by Steve Miller out in '69?
    "Gangster of Love" was good too. In fact "Sailor" was a darn good album.
    And what about "Spill the Wine". Great tune, but maybe it was '70.
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| 638.19 |  | MANTHN::EDD | I'd never normally go bowling... | Fri May 13 1994 07:43 | 31 | 
|  |     Number 1 songs for the '68-'69 school year...
    
    		Harper Valley PTA 	- Jeannie C. Riley
    		Hey Jude		- The Beatles
    		Love Child		- Supremes
    		I Heard It Thru The Grapevine - Marvin Gaye
    		Crimson & Clover	- Tommy James
    		Everyday People		- Sly
    		Dizzy			- Tommy Roe
    		Aquarius		- 5th Dimension
    		Get Back		- The Beatles
    		Theme From Romeo & Juliet - Henry Mancini
    		
    Other # 1 from '69
    
    		2525			- Zager and Evans
    		Honky Tonk Woman	- Stones
    		Sugar Sugar		- Archies
    		Can't Get Next To You	- Temps
    		Suspicious Minds	- Elvis
    		Wedding Bell Blues	- 5th Dimension
    		Come Together		- Beatles
    		Na-Na-Hey-Hey		- Steam
    		Leaving On A Jet-plane	- Peter, Paul & Mary
    		Someday We'll Be Together - Supremes
    
    I noticed an interesting trend digging this stuff out. 1968-69 produced
    a marked DECREASE in the number of tunes hitting #1, as did 1963-4. I 
    wonder how the national "frame-of-mind" affects the charts...
    
    Edd 
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| 638.20 | like the energizer bunny | WBC::DEADY | it takes courage to enjoy it... Bj�rk | Fri May 13 1994 08:45 | 9 | 
|  |     a few more.
    
    	Salty Dog	Pocol Harum
    	Hello, Its Me	Todd Rundgren
    
    Wasn't "Sky Pilot" by Thunderclap Newman and "Run, Run" by Jo Jo Gunn
    released in '69?
    
    fred
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| 638.21 |  | LEDS::ORSI | Kinfolk said..move away from there | Fri May 13 1994 09:00 | 12 | 
|  | >    Wasn't "Sky Pilot" by Thunderclap Newman and "Run, Run" by Jo Jo Gunn
>    released in '69?
    
     Sky Pilot was Eric Burdon and (I think) War.
     Touch Me - Doors
     Also, didn't Tom Jones, Englebert Humperdinck, and Neil Diamond
     have (forgettable) hits in '69?
     Neal
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| 638.23 |  | TAMRC::LAURENT | Hal Laurent @ COP | Fri May 13 1994 09:16 | 7 | 
|  | re: .21
>     Sky Pilot was Eric Burdon and (I think) War.
It was Eric Burdon, but I don't think it was with War.
-Hal
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| 638.24 | TR I | MAYES::OSTIGUY |  | Fri May 13 1994 09:25 | 4 | 
|  |     Hello It's Me was released by Todd in 1972, on "Something/Anything"
    
    was '69 when he released it with The Nazz??   it's the '72 version that
    we all know and love
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| 638.25 |  | TAMRC::LAURENT | Hal Laurent @ COP | Fri May 13 1994 10:07 | 11 | 
|  | re: .24
>    was '69 when he released it with The Nazz??   
The album was in 1968.  Don't know when they released the single.
> it's the '72 version that we all know and love
I don't know, I kind of thought the '72 version was overproduced.
-Hal
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| 638.26 | how high can you fly? | ECRU::CLARK | Chairman of the Bored | Fri May 13 1994 10:23 | 2 | 
|  | Sky Pilot was by Eric Burdon and the Animals, off the album "The Twain
Shall Meet."  This album also has the song "Monterey."
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| 638.27 |  | LTSOPS::IDE | My mind's lost in a household fog. | Fri May 13 1994 10:45 | 7 | 
|  |     re:                  <<< Note 638.22 by SUBPAC::MARTEL >>>
    >Thunderclap Newman did Get It Together Now (title?).
    
    "Something In The Air," I believe.
    
    Jamie
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| 638.28 | father of punk  Iggy Pop | WBC::DEADY | it takes courage to enjoy it... Bj�rk | Fri May 13 1994 11:47 | 6 | 
|  |     re. -1.
    
    Jamie, you're correct Thunderclap Newman's song was "Something in the
    Air." The song in my title was correctly guessed -- The Stooges "1969."
    
    fred
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| 638.29 |  | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Tazmanian Person | Mon May 16 1994 12:00 | 6 | 
|  |     RE: Todd
    
    
    I prefer the version of "Hello" that Nazz recorded with Todd.
    
    imho....
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| 638.30 | Real Cool Time | TECRUS::ROST | From the dance hall to hell | Mon May 16 1994 16:07 | 6 | 
|  |     Funny how many garbage songs from that year...Sugar Sugar, Dizzy, Jam
    Up and Jelly Tight, etc.  Oy vey. And we think radio is bad now??   And
    noone really listened to Iggy in 1969, they just say that now that he's
    cool...  8^)
    
    							Brian
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| 638.31 |  | LEDS::BURATI | Doppler radar junkie | Mon May 16 1994 16:21 | 6 | 
|  |     Those particular tunes may just be the most egregiously sappy tune of
    the entire decade. There were a few others too. I mean, what year was it
    that gave us "Spirit in the Sky" and that Bobby Sherman tune
    (Yummy,Yummy,Yummy?).
                                    Bubba-licious
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| 638.32 |  | TAMRC::LAURENT | Hal Laurent @ COP | Tue May 17 1994 09:18 | 21 | 
|  | re: .31
>    Those particular tunes may just be the most egregiously sappy tune of
>    the entire decade. There were a few others too. I mean, what year was it
>    that gave us "Spirit in the Sky" and that Bobby Sherman tune
>    (Yummy,Yummy,Yummy?).
While Yummy, Yummy, Yummy (I've Got Love In my Tummy) was indeed a truly
awful song, I don't think it can be blamed on Bobby Sherman (don't worry,
we can still blame him for many other travesties :-).  I can't recall the
name, but I think it was one of the many one-hit-wonder groups from around
that time.
On a not-very-related note, talking about this time period reminds me
of my first band's first gig in 1970 or 71.  It was a junior high school
dance, and we didn't really know enough songs for a whole night.  In
an attempt to kill time we played what might have been the world's longest
version of "Get Ready".  I'm (almost) ashamed to admit that we also resorted
to the old "We've had a request to do this song again" trick. :-)
-Hal
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| 638.33 |  | HANNAH::BARKER | Nothing is true...Everything is permitted | Tue May 17 1994 09:24 | 4 | 
|  |     yummy, yummy, yummy was the ohio mumbles (players, or express, or some
    such name) as I recall.  Perhaps the king of all bubble gum pop tunes.
    
    -jesse
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| 638.34 | Whoa - you're blaming the wrong guys!!! | MPGS::MARKEY | Never fry bacon while naked | Tue May 17 1994 10:05 | 12 | 
|  |     >yummy, yummy, yummy was the ohio mumbles (players, or express, or some
    >such name) as I recall.  Perhaps the king of all bubble gum pop tunes.
    
    Good groups by the name of the "Ohio Players" (a funk outfit) and the
    Ohio Express (a soul outfit) existed, however neither can be blamed for
    this song (or even anything close).
    
    I think the real culprits were called something like "The 1911 Fruitgum
    Factory" or some other equally silly name, altough I'm sure the *other*
    Brian will come along shortly and set me straight.
    
    Brian
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| 638.36 | "Get Ready, 'cause here I come..." | PAVONE::TURNER |  | Tue May 17 1994 10:57 | 10 | 
|  |     >In an attempt to kill time we played what might have been the world's
    >longest version of "Get Ready".  I'm (almost) ashamed to admit that we
    >also resorted to the old "We've had a request to do this song again"
    >trick. :-) 
    
    Is that "Get Ready" the old Motown classic by the Temptations? If so, I
    thing the garage band could do with a few more versions of that and a
    few less versions of "Hang On Sloopy" and "Louie Louie" ;-)
    
    Dom
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| 638.37 |  | TAMRC::LAURENT | Hal Laurent @ COP | Tue May 17 1994 11:06 | 9 | 
|  | re: .36
>    Is that "Get Ready" the old Motown classic by the Temptations? 
No, nothing that good. :-)  It was the Rare Earth song.  Or maybe it's
the same song?  I don't remember the Temptations one.
-Hal
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| 638.38 |  | ICS::CROUCH | Subterranean Dharma Bum | Tue May 17 1994 11:14 | 5 | 
|  |     I'm pretty sure that Rare Earth covered the song. In fact weren't
    most of Rare Earth's songs covers?
    
    Jim C.
    
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| 638.39 |  | TECRUS::ROST | From the dance hall to hell | Tue May 17 1994 12:07 | 15 | 
|  |     "Get Ready" was on the first Rare Earth album; it is indeed a cover of
    the Temptations song.  The album version, BTW, was a whole side.  That
    same record also had covers of "Tobacco Road" and "Feeling Alright".
    
    I always wondered about that band; their label was also called Rare
    Earth, a Motown offshoot trying to infiltrate the white rock
    marketplace.  So did the band get named after the label or vice versa?
    The only other Rare Earth artist I can recall was the Pretty
    Things...hmm, maybe Love Sculpture was, too?
    
    Oh yeah, the Ohio Express *was* also a bubblegum group like 1910
    Fruitgum Co. (in fact it was probably the *same* people, basically a
    couple of songwriters hiring session players and singers). 
    
    							Brian
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| 638.40 |  | RICKS::CALCAGNI | I Got You Babe (Slight Return) | Tue May 17 1994 12:48 | 11 | 
|  |     Rare Earth, a band where the lead singer was also the drummer.
    That's something you don't see very often.  He must've had great
    cooordination, or maybe that explains the plodding beat treatment
    all their covers got.
    
    Back to Ron's post re Bobby Sherman and Yummy Yummy Yummy, I was
    wondering of he was maybe thinking of one of Mr Sherman's first big
    hits, "Julie Julie Julie (do ya love me)"?  Don't ask me how I know
    this :-)
    
    /ruben_kincaid
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| 638.41 |  | LEDS::BURATI | Doppler radar junkie | Tue May 17 1994 13:09 | 22 | 
|  | >    hits, "Julie Julie Julie (do ya love me)"?  Don't ask me how I know
    Yikes!
    Regarding pop music:
    I have nothing against pop music. I like pop music. But *this* stuff is
    a subset of pop designed strictly for consumption by teens, preteens
    and, in some cases, preschoolers.
    
    I would take some exception to pointing at this stuff and saying "pop"
    without additional qualification. The Beatles were pop, the Rolling
    Stones had plenty of pop hits like "Jumpin Jack Flash", the Beach Boys
    were pop. These are examples of great pop music. So to say that because
    Someone belittling the 1910 Fruitgum Company must not appreciate pop
    music is ludicrous. These kinds of bands were 100% fluff. Nothing but
    some producer's attempt to make a few bucks by digging up a lame tune
    that someone at a jingle shop whipped off and had "a group of good
    looking kids" sing in a recording studio, 48 hours later being played on
    WABC in New York.
    Barny is not a Pop star.
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| 638.42 |  | TECRUS::ROST | From the dance hall to hell | Tue May 17 1994 13:44 | 9 | 
|  |     Re: .40
    
    Gee, lotsa drummers out there doing lead vox, like Don Brewer of Grand
    Funk (hmm, also a master of plodding beats!), Don Henley, Phil Collins, 
    Karen Carpenter, the guy from the Romantics, Ginger Baker warbling
    "Pressed rat and Warthog" 8^), Moulty, Mickey Dolenz  8^) 8^)...hey,
    Steven Tyler started out on drums and look where he ended up!
    
    							Brian
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| 638.43 |  | ICS::CROUCH | Subterranean Dharma Bum | Tue May 17 1994 13:53 | 5 | 
|  |     Hey, I still listen to "bubble gum" pop music now and then. Some
    days WODS is all I can get on my radio. ;-)
    
    Jim C.
    
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| 638.44 | I Put a Thpell on You | LEDS::BURATI | Doppler radar junkie | Tue May 17 1994 14:10 | 20 | 
|  | >    days WODS is all I can get on my radio. ;-)
    I actually use that preset a lot in the car, but I surf through the
    presets fairly continuously. I have better listening luck with ODS than
    just about any other single station. (That means I "land" there more
    often than most other presets.) They do play Gary Lewis and the Playboys
    _minor_ hits WAY too often. I can't hang around for that stuff. But WODS
    and B101 are the only places I can catch some Aretha, or Eddie Floyd, or
    Sam and Dave. Generally I like their selection of early and mid 60s
    singles.
    I mean, where else are you going to hear Sam Cook followed by the Crazy
    World of Arthur Brown followed by Brenda Lee followed by Screamin' Jay
    Hawkins followed by Leslie Gore? And when they play something dumb I
    paddle off for some Pearl Jam.
    Presets are great.
    --Ron
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| 638.45 |  | AD::FLATTERY |  | Tue May 17 1994 14:14 | 1 | 
|  |     re:..40.......truly frightening rick................;')............
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| 638.46 |  | VAXWRK::STHILAIRE | Food, Shelter & Diamonds | Tue May 17 1994 15:20 | 6 | 
|  |     re .42, and don't forget Levon Helm of The Band, another singing
    drummer.  I think his vocals were pretty good, although he did manage
    to get some weird expressions on his face.
    
    Lorna
    
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| 638.48 |  | ECRU::CLARK | Chairman of the Bored | Tue May 17 1994 17:00 | 4 | 
|  | re WODS ... I also find myself listening to that station quite a bit; one
of the main reasons being that they seem to have fewer commercials and DJ
blabber than other stations.  Of course I like most of the music too ...
though I draw the line at Jose Feliciano singing "Feliz Navidad."
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| 638.49 |  | LEDS::BURATI | Doppler radar junkie | Tue May 17 1994 17:52 | 18 | 
|  | .47> For the most part, Pop is defined as music without a message.
.47> To that end, most of the Beatles' lyrical works and certainly
.47> "Jumpin' Jack Flash" were not "pop" music tunes.
    I think that's way too narrow, Bob. Pop is short for popular which means
    that it pertains to contemporary music appealing to the widest audience.
    Whether or not it has a message is very subjective and has nothing to do
    with whether something qualifies as pop in my book.
    As a rule I don't like pigeon-holing music into classes but I consider
    pop to be a broad catagory. I think it applies to nearly all the top-40
    hits from the 50s and 60s.
    I guess what you call pop I called bubble gum music because it appealed
    to mostly a very young audience. Oh well, whatever.
    --Ron
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| 638.50 |  | LEZAH::CLARK |  | Tue May 17 1994 20:58 | 28 | 
|  | > For the most part, Pop is defined as music without a message.
> To that end, most of the Beatles' lyrical works and certainly
> "Jumpin' Jack Flash" were not "pop" music tunes.
  Yeah, there are lots of ways to slice up the ol' music pie.
  
  Maybe pop music is any music with "popular" exposure -- say, greater than
  100,000 "units" sold or other arbitrary measure.  This casts most
  alternative groups who've been written up anywhere (and absolutely anyone
  on MTV) as "pop", and tends to position the likes of Mr. Vox as the
  mainstream.
  
  Maybe all music is either classical, folk, or pop [enduring, rooted, or
  ephemeral].  Classical & folk music lovers tend to like to think of it
  this way  8)  .  Doesn't work for me, even if "classical" encompasses
  non-European and jazz; and even if "folk" encompasses American & world
  roots musics.
  Whatever works for you.  My CD collection is grouped into Jazz, Blues &
  Gospel, Country & Folk & Bluegrass, Rock and R&B, Classical, and My Ex's.
  Help me find (hide) things faster.
  
  Generalizing about musics is a fun game to play.  My current favorite:
  "The real story of 20th century music is the influence of African-American
  musics on all other living musics."  I believe this is true, and that all
  other developments (Stravinsky's Sacre du printemps, rock & roll,
  electronic music, whatever) absolutely shrink in comparison.  Next week,
  I'll have a new, possibly opposite, generalization to offer.  8)  - Jay
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| 638.51 |  | LEDS::BURATI | Doppler radar junkie | Wed May 18 1994 11:14 | 5 | 
|  | 
    Regarding what is "pop" music:
    Remember the Monterey Pop Festival? I don't think the 1910 Fruitgum
    Company played that show. I think that about sums it up.
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| 638.52 |  | SUBPAC::MARTEL |  | Wed May 18 1994 15:43 | 6 | 
|  | Pop in 1967 meant "popular".  It has a different meaning today, obviously.
Not every pop band around at the time played at that festival, and some of 
those who did I'd hesitate to catagorize as pop (i.e. Ravi Shankar).  Your
logic is severely flawed.
Bob
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| 638.53 |  | LEDS::BURATI | crumple zone | Wed May 18 1994 19:27 | 41 | 
|  | >Pop in 1967 meant "popular".
    And we're talking that period in this note, right? So what's the
    problem?
>Not every pop band around at the time played at that festival,
    Of course not. Where did I say that? But not a single act that I know
    of at that festival was anything like what you've so narrowly
    characterized as pop. If I've overlooked any please feel free to point
    one out.
>    and some of 
>those who did I'd hesitate to catagorize as pop (i.e. Ravi Shankar).
    This is a non sequitur. I not only never said that *every* pop band
    played Monterey (that would be a pretty stupid thing to say) but I also
    never said that there were only pop bands there, to the exclusion af all
    else. I mean, blues acts have performed at jazz festivals and I would
    object to it still being called a jazz festival.
    But here's the point about Monterey:
    
    Overwhelmingly the acts at Monterey were bands like The Byrds, The Who,
    The Jefferson Airplane. (The Who were certainly considered pop, but "My
    Generation" was far from meaningless.) And the producers chose to call
    it a "pop music festival" I suppose because it in large part fit the
    type of bands they invited to perform at it. It's that simple.
    In 1967/8/9 I was a regular reader of Rolling Stone and Crawdaddy and
    it's my experience that "pop" was a term that the music press routinely
    used to refer to a wide variety of modern music, which includes the
    Tommy Roe "teeny bopper" and "bubblegum" stuff. Basically everybody that
    had something on top 40 radio.
>    Your logic is severely flawed.
    Oh, is this the pot calling the kettle black? I think you are far afield
    on your usage of this term.
    --Ron
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| 638.54 |  | SUBPAC::MARTEL |  | Thu May 19 1994 11:05 | 4 | 
|  | In .51, your logic concludes that since the 1910 Fruitgum Co. did not play
at the Montery Pop festival, they are not a pop band.  Please explain.
Bob
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| 638.55 |  | LEDS::BURATI | crumple zone | Thu May 19 1994 12:46 | 11 | 
|  |     No, Bob, you have it backwards. Your inference is incorrect. My
    conclusion is not that the 1910 Fruitgum Company was not "pop". My
    conclusion is that "pop" -- as the term was used in the music business
    at that time -- included these other acts.
    Again, I never said that bubblegum/teenybopper bands weren't/aren't pop.
    I said that they were only a subset of pop.
    I hope that clears things up.
    --Ron
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| 638.56 | Lest We Forget | COMET::ANTHONY_B |  | Thu May 19 1994 23:44 | 7 | 
|  |     Let's not forget those mmorable songs that had a "DJ" asking a question
    and then using excerps from other popular tunes to answer with.  Can't
    remember the names, but one was about space travel.
    
    Also how about Black is Black - Los Lobos
    And my favorite Incense and Peppermints - Strawberry Alarm Clock
    
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| 638.57 |  | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Is this p_n great or what? | Fri May 20 1994 07:42 | 5 | 
|  |     
    	"Mr. Jaws" - Dickie Goodman, I believe
    
    
    							GTI
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| 638.58 |  | MANTHN::EDD | I'd never normally go bowling... | Fri May 20 1994 07:54 | 3 | 
|  |     Wasn't "Mr. Jaws" released considerably later than '69?
    
    Edd
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| 638.59 |  | LEDS::BURATI | crumple zone | Fri May 20 1994 08:52 | 8 | 
|  | >    Let's not forget those mmorable songs that had a "DJ" asking a question
>    and then using excerps from other popular tunes to answer with.
    Yeah, WABC in NYC did those all the time.
    
>    Also how about Black is Black - Los Lobos
    Mmmm, not Los Lobos but...[blank]...
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| 638.60 |  | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Is this p_n great or what? | Fri May 20 1994 08:53 | 6 | 
|  |     
    	Oops, yeah, since the movie didn't come out until '76.
    
    	I was going to add "like Mr. Jaws" but forgot.
    
    							GTI
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| 638.61 | why do I remember this ? | WOTVAX::STONEG | Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland.... | Fri May 20 1994 09:13 | 7 | 
|  | >> >    Also how about Black is Black - Los Lobos
>>      Mmmm, not Los Lobos but...[blank]...
    
    .....5.000 Volts ????
    
    Graham
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| 638.62 | Los Bravos! | SDOGUS::STEWART |  | Fri May 20 1994 10:19 | 3 | 
|  |     
    
    
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| 638.63 | call now and win a 1910 Fruitgum Co. autographed gum wrapper! | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Tazmanian Person | Fri May 20 1994 14:41 | 4 | 
|  |     Have you all forgotten "Snoopy versus the Red Baron"?  What year did
    that come out and who did it?
    
    steve
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| 638.64 |  | MANTHN::EDD | I'd never normally go bowling... | Fri May 20 1994 14:54 | 3 | 
|  |     The Royal Guardsmen, unsure of year. mid-60's.
    
    Edd
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| 638.65 | Snoopy | TECRUS::ROST | From the dance hall to hell | Fri May 20 1994 14:55 | 13 | 
|  |     Re: .63
    
    That was 68 or 69, I recall it being on the jukebox next to "Red Rubber
    Ball" and Jimi doing "Watchtower" at the local pizza joint where I'd
    hang out after wrapping up my paper route on Saturdays.  The owner used
    to throw me out because I would never order a pizza, just play the
    jukebox.
    
    The artist was the Royal Guardsmen (no idea if this was a real band or
    a studio group). They followed up with "Snoopy's Christmas" which still
    gets played on the radio every winter...
    
    							Brian
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| 638.66 | sigh.....can I go back? | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Tazmanian Person | Fri May 20 1994 15:07 | 9 | 
|  |     The Royal Guardsmen, of course.....it was about 1967 or 68.  I was in
    my first band (10th grade).  We played that tune (Snoopy) along with "Little Black
    Egg", "Gloria", "Louie, Louie", "Kicks Just Keep...", "C'mon Down to My
    Boat, Baby", "I Think We're Alone Now", etc, etc....
    
    Those were some fun days.....
    
    steve (who had just discovered light guage strings, but had not
    discovered Eric Clapton....now *that* changed things for me!)
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| 638.67 |  | MANTHN::EDD | I'd never normally go bowling... | Fri May 20 1994 15:20 | 11 | 
|  |     > "C'mon Down To My Boat, Baby
    
    Every Mother's Son!!! One of my faves, up there with Cyrkle's RRB.
    
    > "I Think We're Alone Now"
    
    Tommy James! (Or was it Roe?)
    
    Edd
    
     
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| 638.68 |  | LEDS::BURATI | crumple zone | Fri May 20 1994 15:56 | 7 | 
|  |     Tommy James is correct. My guess is that Red Rubber Ball was out in
    1967. Snoopy I would put around '66.
    Like I've said before, No Good to Cry by (Al Anderson's) Wild Weeds was
    one of the best singles of the decade. Another great single was Nimbus
    City by the Easybeats (I think).
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| 638.69 |  | MANTHN::EDD | I know what happens, I read the book | Fri May 20 1994 16:03 | 5 | 
|  |     Red Rubber Ball goes back possibly as far as fall of '64, and no later
    than spring of '66. I can remember singing it in the schoolyard of the
    school I attended for those two years...
    
    Edd
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| 638.70 | bus stop | AWATS::WESTERVELT |  | Fri May 20 1994 16:47 | 7 | 
|  | 
	How about "Bus Stop" by the Hollies?  Have I got that right?
	Not sure about the year, but I always dug this song.  "Bus
	stop, bus go, she stays, love grows, under my umbrella"
	Anybody else remember that?
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| 638.71 | another Tommy James fan | ABACUS::GREENWOOD_C |  | Fri May 20 1994 16:47 | 5 | 
|  |     I THINK WE'RE ALONE NOW WAS 1967....IT WAS ONE OF MY (THEN)
    GIRLFRIEND'S FAVORITES....CIAO.
    
    Chuck
    
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| 638.72 | by ? | AWATS::WESTERVELT |  | Fri May 20 1994 16:49 | 2 | 
|  | 
	How about "Carrie Ann"?
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| 638.73 |  | LEDS::BURATI | ah...ah...<primal scream> | Fri May 20 1994 17:33 | 8 | 
|  |     I liked all those 60s tunes by the Hollies. Another was "On a Carousel".
    The great thing about pop music in the mid 60s was it had such
    diversity. Creativity abounded.
    Thanks for reminding me about the Hollies. Good stuff.
    --Ron
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| 638.74 |  | LEZAH::CLARK |  | Fri May 20 1994 18:14 | 6 | 
|  | >    Red Rubber Ball goes back possibly as far as fall of '64, and no later
>    than spring of '66. I can remember singing it in the schoolyard of the
>    school I attended for those two years...
  Yeah -- they sang this opening for the Beatles in summer '65, so...
  mighta been '65.   - Jay
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| 638.75 |  | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Is this p_n great or what? | Fri May 20 1994 19:00 | 8 | 
|  |     
    	I forgot about "Snoopy vs. the Red Baron"!!  And I have it on an
    	LP, even though I haven't heard it in about 5-10 years now.
    
    	"Red Rubber Ball" - The Cyrcles, or The Circles, wasn't it?
    
    							GTI
    
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| 638.76 |  | LEZAH::CLARK |  | Fri May 20 1994 19:11 | 3 | 
|  | >    	"Red Rubber Ball" - The Cyrcles, or The Circles, wasn't it?
 Yeah, Edd had it right in .67 or so -- Cyrkle.
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| 638.77 |  | MANTHN::EDD | I know what happens, I read the book | Mon May 23 1994 07:38 | 5 | 
|  |     > "Red Rubber Ball" - Cyrkle
    
    Written by Paul Simon and {mumble}...(Not Garfunkle)
    
    Edd
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| 638.78 |  | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | Mine's made outta unobtainium! | Mon May 23 1994 09:17 | 9 | 
|  |     
    	Bus Stop and, I believe, Carrie Anne or Look thru Any Window was
    	written by Graham Gouldman of 10cc.  The Hollies were a great
    	band, even after Nash's departure.  After the Beatles, it was
    	my older brother's favorite band and it sure shows in his
    	ability to sing harmony.  
    
    	Tom
    
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| 638.79 |  | CAPNET::LEFEBVRE | PCBU Product Management | Mon May 23 1994 12:13 | 3 | 
|  |     Graham Nash sang Carrie Anne and Carousel .
    
    Mark.
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| 638.80 | how I used to win the young girls' hearts :-) | RICKS::CALCAGNI | tripe my guacomole | Mon May 23 1994 13:16 | 7 | 
|  |     All I can say is, the Hollies "Look Through Any Window" was almost
    singlehandedly responsible for my picking up the guitar; that 12-string
    lead run used to give me chills (it was Tony Clark who played it).
    
    I'd place "Snoopy" 67-68.  How do I know?  I bought a copy for a girl I
    had a crush on in 8th grade that school year.
    
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| 638.81 | "I still recall, you'd bid me farewell..." | COMET::LEVETT |  | Mon May 23 1994 17:37 | 3 | 
|  |     Cyrcle it was.  The name spelling is credited to John Lennon.
    
    _stew-
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| 638.82 | Trust me... | ROADKL::NASSAU::HALL | Euripides pants, Eumenides pants | Mon May 23 1994 18:46 | 9 | 
|  |     Stew,
    
    I gotta tell ya, it's Cyrkle; I'll show you the album.  One of the
    guys was fresh out of the Marines (hence the short hair), and one of
    them claimed lineage to some famous guy (like ??? Boone did in the
    Lovin' Spoonful).  Of course, I could be listening to these voices in
    my head too much.
    
    Charlie
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| 638.83 | Right | COMET::LEVETT |  | Tue May 24 1994 10:31 | 5 | 
|  |     Right Charlie...my reference to the spelling was the "Y" and not "I"
    and I goofed on the "C" when it shoulda been the "K".
    
    _stew_ (with an "ew" and not "u"
    
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| 638.84 | aka? | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Tazmanian Person | Thu May 26 1994 14:15 | 4 | 
|  |     wasn't "Red Rubber Ball" actually titled "59th Street Bridge Song"?  Or
    have I got it mixed up with another......
    
    steve
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| 638.85 |  | TECRUS::ROST | From the dance hall to hell | Thu May 26 1994 14:20 | 3 | 
|  |     59th Street Bridge Song = Feeling Groovy
    
    						Artie G.
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| 638.86 | Harper's Bizarre | VMSDEV::CAFARELLA | Tom Cafarella, DTN: 381-0625 | Fri Apr 21 1995 18:53 | 11 | 
|  |     
    59th Street Bridge Song == Feelin' Groovy was another Paul Simon song.
    Hit version by Harper's Bizarre. Since we're on this tangent, how about
    the Cyrkle's best song -- Turn Down Day -- one of the best of all
    summer songs.
    
    
    Tom Caf
    
    
    
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| 638.87 |  | LARVAE::BRIGGS_R |  | Tue Apr 25 1995 17:56 | 7 | 
|  |     Talk about connections...
    
    Red Rubber Ball was also recorded by The Seekers. Bruce Woodley, of The
    Seekers, wrote several songs with Paul Simon and he co-wrote Red Rubber
    Ball with Paul Simon. It appears on their 'Come The Day' album.
    
    Richard
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| 638.88 |  | MSBCS::EVANS |  | Fri Apr 28 1995 10:25 | 6 | 
|  | Paul Simon when asked what was the best song he ever wrote answered 
that he wasn't sure, but the worst song he ever wrong that became a
hit was "Red Rubber Ball".
Jim
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| 638.89 |  | LARVAE::BRIGGS_R |  | Wed May 03 1995 05:10 | 8 | 
|  |     
    Well as a past Paul Simon/Garfunkel afficionado I'd say that he's
    probably right. An OK pop song but not really in his mould. However, as
    for *worst*. I have an LP of the
    original 'Tom and Jerry'. There is some *real* dross on that although,
    to be fair, very little saw the light of day (except Hey Schoolgirl).
    
    Richard
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| 638.90 | Any guesses? | TECWT2::BOUDREAU |  | Tue Oct 17 1995 09:52 | 4 | 
|  | ...just perusing this thing, reminiscing and wondering how there could
be 89 entries discussing popular songs of 1969 without mention of this
one.
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| 638.91 |  | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Octopi are people too | Tue Oct 17 1995 10:08 | 4 | 
|  |     
    	Well, it can't be "Stairway to Heaven", since I think that was
    	still a year or 2 away, so how about "Dazed and Confused"?
    
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| 638.92 | Huh? | TECWT2::BOUDREAU |  | Tue Oct 17 1995 10:40 | 2 | 
|  | 
Ain't no stinkin' gerbil
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| 638.93 |  | TECWT2::BOUDREAU |  | Wed Oct 18 1995 08:28 | 2 | 
|  | 
But that's because he's a MAN.
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| 638.94 |  | TECWT2::BOUDREAU |  | Wed Nov 22 1995 14:20 | 13 | 
|  | 
ZimmerMAN.  
"Lay Lady Lay."  That's what I remember about 1969, that
and "A Boy Named Sue," by Johnny Cash.  And the theme from Midnight 
Cowboy, and Desmond Decker and the Aces singing "The Isrealites," the
first reggae tune to hit the big time.  Creedence's "Green River" came
out that year, too. 
My memory scares me.  I turned 16 that summer.
-S
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