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| 508.1 | | LEDS::BURATI | Helter Skelter | Mon Oct 04 1993 13:34 | 17 |
| > Why is it that when discussing Women in Jazz, we generally think
> about the vocalists and song-stylists?
Ummm, because the overwhelming majority of them are vocalists and
song-stylists?
> What about women who are
> virtuosos on an instrument like the piano or the trumpet?
What about them? If you want to discuss them, let's go. You start.
> And why are there no well-known female conductors in Classical
> Music?
You got me there, Jim.
--Ron
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| 508.2 | What's Your Point? | TECRUS::ROST | Keef Riffhard | Mon Oct 04 1993 14:11 | 14 |
| Female jazz virtuosos:
Marian McPartland, Jane Ira Bloom, Geri Allen,...
Female conductors:
Does Sarah Caldwell count? How about Antonia Brico? Of course, they
are not that well known.
Why do we generally think about vocalists:
Sexism 8^) 8^), force of habit
Brian
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| 508.3 | | VERGA::CLARK | | Mon Oct 04 1993 14:16 | 4 |
| > Marian McPartland, Jane Ira Bloom, Geri Allen,...
Mary Lou Williams... (to name one who's earned a place in jazz piano
history). - Jay
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| 508.4 | boy child / girl child ?? | SMURF::LONGO | Mark Longo, UNIX(r) Software Group | Mon Oct 04 1993 15:23 | 23 |
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I've wondered why so many more women play classical and
folk music by percentage than jazz or rock (other than as vocalists).
I once heard someone observe that in jazz and rock the instruments are
played using a more improvisational style. This observation was followed
by the suggestion that traditional American child-rearing (circa
50's/60's) encouraged females to imitate their present non-working mothers
while males were actively discouraged from most forms of female
roll imitation. The theory goes that in the frequent absence of the
working father the males had somewhat vaguer role identification than the
females, somwhat less tutored play patterns, and so were encouraged by
neccesity to develop improvisational skills in play. Could this have
grown into different musical tendencies/preferences among adults?
This is a greatly simplified paraphrase of an idea I heard many
years ago, but it seems interesting. Nothing is quite that simple and
there are so many gender differences in our everyday environment, but what
role might child rearing styles and conditions play? If see more women
now playing improvised music than 3 decades ago, (do we?) maybe our
changing societal norms for child rearing are partly responsible...
/ml
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| 508.5 | They're Out There... | HOTWTR::TUTAK_PE | Bunny Brief Lives | Mon Oct 04 1993 15:43 | 17 |
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Well, there's Carla Bley, who plays keyboards, always looks a little
wigged out, but writes some great charts and currently has a band with
bassist Steve Swallow. If they ever put the big band back together,
they are worth checking out.
There was also the late Emily Remler, who was about 37 when she OD'd in
Australia about a year and a half ago. Very Wes Montgomery-influenced
guitar work, simple and direct. Check out her 'This is Me' release,
which was in post production when she died. Good player...saw her in a
club in New Jersey back around '84. Her death really saddened me.
Others in Jazz: Patrice Rushen (excellent pianist), Ruth Underwood
(percussionist par excellence), Candy Dulfer (reeds), Gayle Moran
(keyboards), Carol Kaye (mostly rock bass, but one of the great session
musicians of the last 30 years)...
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