Conference mr1pst::music

    re:-1
    
    you mean you missed the '91 or was it '92 concert in the RDS Simmonscourt???
    
    I will submit a concert report soon on the said concert, which for me
    was one of the best I'd seen that year...
    
    
    M.J.

    I've come to really appreciate her.
    
    I only have her greatest hits album, but there's so many great tunes
    on it and I don't seem to get bored of either listening to them or
    playing them.
    
    I also think that the Miami Sound Machine is a HOT band.  Of course,
    I'm getting the impression that with each new record, the MSM is
    actually more and more "Machine" than human players.   I.E.  each
    record seems to use more sequencing than the last.
    
    I would LOVE to be in a band that did "Conga".  That is HOT!
    
    	db

    Gloria is a talented lady....it's easy to throw that adjective around,
    but not only is her studio work very good (particularly her 1st 3
    albums) but I saw her at the Centrum, and she put on an outstanding
    performance. 
    
    The concert was originally scheduled for November '89 ??  but she came
    down with laryngitis (sp??)  and was re-scheduled to March of '90. She
    made mention of it when she performed that night, thanking the crowd
    who attended for hanging in there, waiting for her to come back around.
    The show was 8 days before her terrible bus accident in which she broke
    her back, she'd probably like to forget that whole tour.
    
    Her show was great though, the band was tight, and all very good
    musicians, and Gloria is very energetic onstage. Her voice was
    phenomenal, indeed for all the Many concerts I've seen over the years,
    her performance that night stands out as one of the best individual
    performances I've seen/heard. 
    
    Certainly she is a major star, and got a lot of publicity regarding her
    accident and followup "Coming Out of the Dark" album, but she deserves
    more appreciation in general I believe...for instance, MUCH more than
    the "great" Stevie Nicks"  oh, that's another topic...
    
    anyway, if you have a chance, catch Gloria in concert, very
    entertaining, and you probably won't have to stand on your seat for the
    whole show  :)

    re .3, I wouldn't have replied here if you hadn't made mention of one
    of my all-time favorite singers, Stevie Nicks.  BUT, you did....so, I
    have to say it.  You claim that Gloria Estefan is far more talented
    than "the great Stevie Nicks."  Well, I think that's a matter of
    opinion.  I think it's all a matter of personal taste.  I've seen
    Gloria inteviewed on television, and she seemed like a nice person,
    very gratefulf or her fans, etc., but, to be honest, her music leaves
    me completely cold.  I hate what I tend to think of as "dance music" in
    general, anyway (Paula Abdoul, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Madonna,
    Gloria Estefan, all that type of thing makes me want to barf, so I just
    ignore it).  So, I think it's impossible to compare Gloria Estefan and
    Stevie Nicks.  Their music is completely different.  Their personal
    styles are completely different.  As I said, Gloria Estefan's music
    completely bores me, whereas I love just about everything that Stevie
    Nicks has ever recorded.  I love her voice, the way she dresses and
    wears her hair.  (She used to be just beautiful.  I used to wish I
    looked like her, before she gained that weight!)
    
    Lorna
    

Re last two:

Yup and yup- I love 'em BOTH, for their own unique talents. Personally, I think
that Gloria's voice and technical ability with it blows the doors off Stevie's,
but there's more to singing than that. Stevie (IMHO) exudes raw, primal *emotion*
in her singing to an unbelievable extent- and I couldn't analyze why it sounds
that way to me, it just does.

Guess that's why they call music an *art,* eh?

Bob

>... Gloria's voice and technical ability with it blows the doors off Stevie's,

	Yup.

    How can you compare two different types of singers and say one *is*
    better than the other? Maybe this topic belongs in the "I don't get it"
    note. ;^) I personally like both Stevie *and* Gloria, but I place them 
    into two different and specific categories. The only thing similar (in 
    my book) is that they're both female singers with two completely
    different styles. 
    
    Kinda like comparing the guitar work of Jeff Beck and Albert Lee.
    They're both very good guitarists, but I'd be hard pressed to
    compare and say one's better than the other. There's too much personal
    taste (I like/dislike) to make a fair comparison and since the styles
    are so different how can you honestly compare the two?
    
    	Enough 2� for one day!   ;^)
    
    		Fred

I agree with .7. To compare these two is so arbitrary that it's absurd.

Barry

    I agree with a previous noter who stated that a lot of her recent stuff
    sounded too electronic, too much sampling etc....Lets get back to
    basics Gloria....
    Ray....

	>> To compare these two is so arbitrary that it's absurd.

	Balderdash.  It's perfectly legitimate to compare 
	quality and control with respect to the voices of two female singers
	of pop music.  What's the problem?
	That's like saying it's absurd to compare Rubenstein to
	Horowitz.  It's not arbitrary.
   

>	That's like saying it's absurd to compare Rubenstein to
>	Horowitz.  It's not arbitrary.

Although I personally think that comparisons of *some* nature can be made, I feel
compelled to point out that I *can* understand the point of view that the
original comparison was inappropriate. WRT your analogy, I'd say a more
appropriate one would be a comparison between Horowitz and, say, Doug Kershaw.

It's not that vocal quality and control can't be compared, it's just that that's
not all there is to singing. It's also true that technical aspects o music don't
play as important a part in some styles of music as they do in others. So, mebbe
Doug Kershaw can't hit a perfect cadenza, and mebbe Horowitz can't stomp his
feet while he plays. (And I'll bet neither one cares a lot, either...)

Git the pick-cha? <G>

Well, back to the fire and brimstone...

Bob

>> Git the pick-cha? <G>

	I git your pick-cha, but I don't agree.

	I wouldn't try to compare Kershaw and Horowitz, by the way.