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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

271.0. "Poi Dog Pondering" by QUIVER::MILLER () Mon Jul 27 1992 09:43

    
    
    This is for discussion of Poi Dog Pondering.
    
    Anyone else like their stuff?
    
    Heard the "new" album, _Volo Volo_?  What do you think of it?
    
    Favorite songs, etc.
    
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271.1NEMAIL::CARROLLJImmanuel Kant was a real . . .Sun Aug 02 1992 15:5313
    Not a bad band - I have their prevoius two, and the Fruitless CD
    single.  Decent folksy music, bizarre name.  How's the new one, I've
    seen it, but haven't heard anything off of it . . .
    
    Fave songs . .
    
    	Bury Me Deep
    	Thanksgiving
    	Ul li la lu
    	A song off the 1st album that I can't remember the name to -
    something about the beach . . .
    
    					-jimbo
271.2What IS Poi?EMDS::GRCOOPdemented-6Mon Aug 03 1992 09:388
    I remember a Village Voice article in last year's Paz & Jopp awards
    issue (in which Nirvana was named band of the Year) where a writer
    stated that now we would have thousands of bands trying to sound
    like Nirvana but also thousands LESS sounding like Poi Dog Pondering.
    
    Thank God.
    
    Bill
271.3Volo Volo commentQUIVER::MILLERMon Aug 03 1992 11:4120
    
    RE: .1
    
    >                                        How's the new one, I've
    > seen it, but haven't heard anything off of it . . .
    
    I like it, though at first it seemed different from their earlier
    stuff... maybe just slightly more "rock"y tha their previous albums,
    I'm not sure.  Also, I think there were a couple of minor personnel
    changes, though the main people are still there. Overall, the album
    _Volo Volo_, released in March(?), is a good one, with more fun
    Poi tracks, and another annoying end to the CD, with a long whining
    noise of some sort, similar to the one at the end of the last song
    from _Wishing Lika A Mountain, Thinking Like The Sea_ (damn, can't
    think of the song name... it will come to me after I enter this note,,
    I'm sure...)
    
    --Brian
    
    
271.4whine off into the distance . . .NEMAIL::CARROLLJImmanuel Kant was a real . . .Mon Aug 03 1992 14:597
    Re -.1
    
    "Sugarbush Cushman".
    
    ... and it IS an annoying ending.
    
    				-Jimbo
271.5Volo Volo a disappointmentBAVIKI::goodMichael GoodMon Aug 03 1992 15:3324
I found Volo Volo a disappointment.  Wishing Like a Mountain and
Thinking Like the Sea is one of my favorite albums, but Volo Volo
strikes me as much more generic.  Far too often they lose the
great stew of sounds that marks their best work, and sound more
like an average alternative band.  There are some good songs on
it, including some Hawaiian-influenced numbers, but overall it
retreats to about the same level as their debut album.

Another annoyance is that there's no lyric sheet included
in the album, but you can get one if you send away for one
and pay $3.  I guess $11 or $12 a CD isn't good enough.  That
type of thing just rubs me the wrong way.

Re .3:  The drummer is different on Volo Volo, but I think the
rest of the group was intact for this album.  Perhaps the big
difference is in the producers.  They have lots of different
producers on Volo Volo and recorded all over the place, as
opposed to the one producer and the Austin-based recording they
did for their previous albums.  The most generic-sounding songs
all tend to have the same producers.

Re .2:  Poi is a taro-based starch, a traditional Hawaiian food.
It's an acquired taste at best for most non-Hawaiians, though I
liked it enough when we visited there.
271.6PoiwordsQUIVER::MILLERTue Aug 04 1992 15:4818
    
    RE: last
    
>    Another annoyance is that there's no lyric sheet included
>    in the album, but you can get one if you send away for one
>    and pay $3.  I guess $11 or $12 a CD isn't good enough.  That
>    type of thing just rubs me the wrong way.
    
    Yeah, I thought this was annoying myself.  By any chance did anyone get
    the lyric sheet by mail?  Is it worth the $$ ?
    
    Also, there are a couple of songs with non-English lyrics.  Does anyone
    know what language they are in, and what they translate into English
    as???
    
    --Brian
    
    
271.7FruitlessQUIVER::MILLERTue Aug 18 1992 16:4112
    
    If anyone's "listening" to this note, just thought I'd mention that I
    recently picked up the CD "EP" _Fruitless_, and I think it's pretty
    good (maybe *** out of ****).  It includes live versions of
    "Fruitless," "Thanksgiving," "Wood Guitar," a Poi version of a song by
    I believe New Order, and I can't remember what else.  Anyway, if anyone
    has seen this in the stores but didn't know if it was worth the money: 
    it is, if you like other Poi material.  I bought it for $5 or $6 at
    Tower Records in Boston.
    
    ---Brian
    
271.8blather blatherNEMAIL::CARROLLJImmanuel Kant was a real . . .Tue Aug 18 1992 16:487
    
    Re -.1
    
    	Yeah, I found that a few months ago - the New Order song is _Love
    Soldiers_.  I like the live version of _Thanksgiving_ the most.
    
    						-Jimbo
271.9i've never seen a horse that* ugly.BRAT::MATTHEWSSINGLE with TOYZ !!! Tue Aug 18 1992 17:3314
    
    
    ACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    New ORDER and Skinny PuppY!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    		I'm iN HeLl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :*)
    
    
    			wendy o'
    
    
271.10skinny who?QUIVER::MILLERWed Aug 19 1992 11:018
    
    >     New ORDER and Skinny PuppY!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Huh?  You lost me?  What does Skinny Puppy have to do with anything
    we're discussing here?  Sorry, but I had to ask....
    
    --Brian
    
271.11so whatz MY point?? :*)BRAT::MATTHEWSSINGLE with TOYZ !!! Wed Aug 19 1992 13:0512
     >>>Huh?  You lost me?  What does Skinny Puppy have to do with anything
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>we're discussing here
    
    
    nothing!!! 
    
    and either does NEW order 
    so there
    :*)
    
    			wendy o'
    
271.12QUIVER::MILLERWed Aug 19 1992 16:585
    
    RE: last
    
    Please see .7 and .8
    
271.13JARETH::DKAPLANThu Aug 20 1992 11:4712
Don't get me wrong, I like these guys, I do.  Really loved the first album
(actually a combination of the two previously issued EPs), and I like the 
second one, although there's a few too many lame tracks ("The Ancient 
Egyptians"?!)

But one question:  does anyone else find the singer (something Orrall)
to be totally annoying in concert?  I found him to be trying so hard to be 
pseudo-artsy, with his sub-StopMakingSense gestures and his 
effeminate-jumping-bean hops.  His voice is okay - it fits the songs pretty
well - but I kept wanting to smack him for trying to act cutesy.  

I saw them in 89 at T.T.'s, and then in 90 at the T.L.A. in Philly.
271.14TAMDNO::LAURENTHal Laurent @ MELThu Aug 20 1992 13:5110
I've only heard two songs by these guys, and I liked one of them.
The other one, though, (I think it was the New Order song) nearly
drove me crazy 'cause it was so out of tune.  The instruments not only
weren't very in tune with each other, but they were drastically out of
tune with the vocals.  This was a shame.  I liked the overall sound of
the song, but the out-of-tuneness made it almost unbearable to listen 
to.  Mind you, I'm no Donald Fagen when it comes to playing in tune.
I can handle a certain amount of not-in-perfect-tune (I used to listen
to a lot of old hillbilly music), but this song was just too much.

271.15QUIVER::MILLERFri Aug 21 1992 15:536
    
    I'd like to know which song you think is out of tune, because I can't
    remember any of their songs being unpleasant to listen to.
    
    Any clue?
    
271.16TAMDNO::LAURENTHal Laurent @ MELMon Aug 24 1992 18:099
re: .15
    
>    I'd like to know which song you think is out of tune, because I can't
>    remember any of their songs being unpleasant to listen to.
    
It might have been called something like "Love Vigilantes", but I'm not sure.
I believe the lyrics were about a soldier who came back home on leave and
found out that his wife had been notified by the army that he was dead.
Perhaps she committed suicide, I'm not sure.
271.17ah . . . . .whoops.NEMAIL::CARROLLJImmanuel Kant was a real . . .Mon Aug 24 1992 20:379
    
    RE - all
    
    a few notes ago I said the New Order song was "Love Soldiers".  must
    have been smoking something ( and inhaling ) - it's "Love Vigilantes",
    and I don't think it's THAT out of tune.  Certainly not enough to make
    me cringe, although I don't think it's that wonderful a cover of it.
    
    						-Jimbo