Conference mr1pst::music

    "Forgotten Son" is one of my all time favorites.
    
    Any review on their new Fish-less material?
    
    -Stevie D
    

    I don't have any of their Fish-less material, but Fish's CD, Vigil in a
    Wilderness of Mirrors is great!
    
    Suegene
    

    Welcome you freaks.
    
    I do have the Fish-less material, but it isn't as good as the ol'
    stuff. Problem is that I don't not really like the new sanger. Not that
    I know him but, since Steve (that's his name) Marillion went another
    way. The more popular one. Find a style that the people like an go one
    with it. I suspected U2 a few years ago doing the same (Achtung baby is
    the first one I bought in years).
    
    Last night I listend to 'Clutching at straws'. Still makes me feeling
    ... (undescribeable).
    
    Sjaak.

    >>I do have the Fish-less material,
    
    Forgive my cheek but owing to the real name of the rather large 
    Scotsman, one might also say that Marillion are Dick-less. 
    
    barry.
    
    p.s. Actually I caught this mob a couple of times with the Big Man
    singing. One of them was on the occasion they signed for EMI and
    played  their last "Grendl" for what many Marillion fans' considered 
    a lifetime. Not long enough if you ask me. :^)
     

    Barry, sorry for being improper. I hope you know what I mean.
    
    I never was on a concert where they play Grendel, although I do have a
    video ... (that isn't really real isn't it?).
    
    Just like Grendel, I didn't have seen them play Margaret. What I pitty.
    And worse, there won't be another chance. Snif.
    
    Sjaak.

    
    Well, I've seen them three times.  Once after Childhood's End was
    released (with Fish) and twice after Seasons End was released (with the
    new guy).
    
    And I admit, they aren't the same band, but for me that doesn't mean
    necessarily bad things.  The focus of the written material is slightly
    different, slightly less personal, I think, but I contend that Steve
    can sing their older stuff as well as Fish could.  It sounds a little
    different, true, but I liked it all the same.
    
    I haven't picked up the very latest album, nor do I have any of Fish's
    solo stuff yet, but I'm looking forward to acquiring and listening to
    both quite happily.
    
    
    DFW

    Could someone who has the solo Fish album(s) please post the label and
    number?  I have been looking for months and have not found any Fish
    solo material anywhere.
    
    Also could someone be so kind as to provide a complete list of all of
    the Marillion CDs, I want to make sure that I have them all.
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Arthur

    Fish - Internal Exile (1991)
    Polydor 511049-2
    50:15 min, 9 tracks
    Produced by: Chris Kimsey
    
    Unfortunately, this is only available as an import - I saw it at a
    record show a couple of weeks ago, but I understand it is to be
    released in May/June in the US so I thought I would wait.
    
    I'll post the information (if no one else does) about Vigil...Mirrors
    tonight from my copy which I bought in London. Hopefully, when IE is
    released here, Vigil will be, too.
    
    Suegene

    Hi,

    I checked my CD-collection and, according to a catalogue, it is
    complete.

    Regards, Sjaak.
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    MARILLION WITH FISH:

Year Cd Name                      Tracks Producer        Number
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1983 Script For A Jester's Tear        6 Nick Tauber     CDP 7 46237 2 EMI
1984 Fugazi                            7 Nick Tauber     CDP 7 46027 2 EMI
1984 Real To Real (live)               7 Simon Hanhart   CPM 7 52021 2 EMI
1985 Misplaced Childhood              10 Chris Kimsey    CDP 7 46160 2 EMI
1987 Clutching At Straws              11 Chris Kimsey    CDP 7 46844 2 EMI
1988 B'Sides Themselves                9 Nick Tauber     CDP 7 48807 2 EMI
1988 The Thieving Magpie  cd 1        12 Privet Hedge    79 1465 2 EMI
     (live)               cd 2        Misplaced Childhood


    MARILLION WITH STEVE:

Year Cd Name                      Tracks Producer         Number
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1989 Seasons End                       9 Nick Davis       CDP 7 92877 2 EMI
1991 Holidays In Eden                 10 Christopher Neil     7 96822 2 EMI


    FISH:

Year Cd Name                      Tracks Producer        Number
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1990 Vigil In A Wilderness Of Mirrors  9 Jon Kelly       CDP 7 93634 2 EMI
1991 Internal Exile                    9 Chris Kimsey    511049-2 Polydor
    

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    Re .9
    
    Thanks for providing me with the complete list!!
    
    One other question.  I do not have "B'Sides Themselves" and was
    wondering if this CD contains unreleased material, if so, I will need
    to get it.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Arthur

    Tracks on B'Sides Themselves:
    
    1) Grendel
    2) Charting The Single
    3) Market Square Heroes
    4) Three Boats Down From The Candy
    5) Cinderella Search
    6) Lady Nina
    7) Freaks
    8) Tux on
    9) Margaret (live)
    
    Most (or all) of these tracks are on the B-side of maxi-singles.
    
    Sjaak, Freak 4 ever.

    Re. a few back ...
    
    I have a spare, unplayed copy of Fish's "Vigil In A Wilderness Of
    Mirros" CD, so if anyone would like to take it off my hands, please
    send e-mail.
    
    - Dougie

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    Re .9
    
�   1984 Real To Real (live)               7 Simon Hanhart   CPM 7 52021 2 EMI
    
    That should be
    
    1984 Real To Reel (live)               7 Simon Hanhart   CPM 7 52021 2 EMI
                   ^
    
    Sjaak.

    Hi,
    
    Fish is going to give a concert on 20/21 June in Weert, which is about
    30 km south of Eindhoven, The Netherlands.
    
    Sjaak.

    Well, clearly their aren't any Market Square Heroes at Digital anymore.
    
    I have to hear from a local pop station that Marillion brought out a new
    CD. 'Sad but true' (Metallica).
    
    Sjaak.

    
    Holidays in Eden?  That's been out for ages.
    
    Or is there something after that?
    
    DFW

    Yeah. There is something after that! A double CD with acoustic sessions
    of Steve covering old Marillion songs, even Kayleigh. (spit - spit).
    
    In the interview I heard even Steve have to admit that the original
    version of Kayleigh is the best. That's why it is in the top 5 in every
    years top 100 here in Holland.
    
    Tears from ..., Sjaak.

    I don't think "Six of one, half dozen of another" has been released in
    the states yet...I read it won't be until July. But I have heard on
    WBOS 92.9 FM in Boston a couple of plays from Holidays in Eden...funny,
    they refer to it as a song by a "new" group, Marillion!
    
    Suegene

 RE.  A few back...

  >>  Fish - Internal Exile (1991)
  >>  Polydor 511049-2
  >>  50:15 min, 9 tracks
  >>  Produced by: Chris Kimsey
    
  >>  Unfortunately, this is only available as an import - I saw it at a
  >>  record show a couple of weeks ago, but I understand it is to be
  >>  released in May/June in the US so I thought I would wait.

Well, May/June have come and gone, and I have not seen this CD in my local store
here in the US!  Has anyone else?  Is it still to be released in the US?

Arthur
    

    The last I heard the release date was moved to July 14th ... along with
    the Marillion/Fish "Six of one/half dozen of another"...
    
    Suegene

    Re 22.
    
    If you can't lay your hands on one, send me E-mail and I'll arrange
    something.
    
    Sjaak_ho_has_decided_to_quit_bying_'Marillion'_and_find_that_they_should_
         change_their_name.

    Last night I bought both Fish's "Internal Exile" and Marillion's "Six of
    One Half Dozen of the Other" at Newbury Comics in Framingham...they
    were even on the front display rack and both on sale for $11.77!!
    They're great!!
    
    Suegene

I have a SPARE copy of the UK-only compilation, "'B' Sides Themselves",
which features the following tracks :-

1.  Grendel
2.  Charting The Single
3.  Market Square Heroes
4.  Three Boats Down From The Candy
5.  Cinderella Search
6.  Lady Nina
7.  Freaks
8.  Tux On
9.  Margaret (live)

{ �1988 --  EMI CDP 7 48807 2 }

If anyone's interested in working out a swap on this one, please send
me e-mail direct.

Cheers for now,

- Dougie

    
    Well, it's not unreleased in the U.S., but it's still a terrific CD.
    
    DFW

   The latest issue of the Noteworthy catalog has listed two double CDs of live
   Fish!  I don't have my catalog with me, so I don't remember the names of
   them.

   Does anyone have them?  Could you post what is on them, and how is the sound
   quality?

   Thanks,

   Arthur

    Well,
    
    If you're talking about the CD's I think you are, there are 5 double
    CD's of live concerts of Fish. Some titles include (of the top of my
    head) "Never mind the bullocks" and "For whom the bell tolls"
    
    There are a lot of tracks which are on several CD's, so you just
    choose the CD with your favorite tracks. As I said, there are 5 double
    CD's.
    
    The quality differs from CD to CD. It is not top quality, but its
    enough to listen to.
    
    Mark (a_jesters_apprentice)